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TheBB
Switzerland5133 Posts
This stopped the theories about this being a terror attack, which had been the running theory both around the world, and on the norwegian news channels. It stopped the international terrorism theories, but of course it was terrorism. Not sure why you would say anything else. | ||
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overt
United States9006 Posts
On July 23 2011 17:47 WhiteDog wrote: My god this is so sad... What the fuck ? What are his motivation ? I can't seem to understand them... What does it mean that he "likes" anti nazi on facebook ? Did the camp he attacked was some kind of racist camp or what ? Because it say it's the labour party... so I just can't seem to understand. Well anyway, I think the guy is certainly a bit crazy, you got to to kill so many people. He killed teens who were at a camp for the socialist party who were likely very active and supportive of the socialist party. His motive was likely to kill off as many of the "future" of that party as possible. After all, it's very likely that he could've killed a future Prime Minister at that camp. It's a politically motivated tragedy that will likely only help the party he was hoping to harm. | ||
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Lunaticman
Sweden1097 Posts
My thoughts will be with the families of the victims for a long time to come. | ||
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GunSec
1095 Posts
On July 23 2011 17:47 WhiteDog wrote: My god this is so sad... What the fuck ? What are his motivation ? I can't seem to understand them... What does it mean that he "likes" anti nazi on facebook ? Did the camp he attacked was some kind of racist camp or what ? Because it say it's the labour party... so I just can't seem to understand. Well anyway, I think the guy is certainly a bit crazy, you got to to kill so many people. It was the opposite, he had connections to the right extreme and was probably a nazi himself. | ||
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zocktol
Germany1928 Posts
I'm hoping that they will stay this way and my concolences go out to all those who lost a loved one in this hugely irrational and inhumane act. edit: Is there any way to show my support to the people of Norway? edit2: Also could people not discuss about, which was worse 9/11 or this and if he deserves to die or not? Norway will handle it and both 9/11 and what this maniac did, are tragedies that should not be broken down into raw numbers or facts but seen more as a terrible thing that happened. If you wnt to se which country has the bigger penis, when it comes to the enduring terrorist attacks, take that somewhere else, please. | ||
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nukeazerg
United States168 Posts
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Typhus
Norway122 Posts
http://prableen.origo.no/-/bulletin/show/672218_helvete-paa-utoeya Google translate will propably give you an idea about the contents, I'll try translating it later unless anyone beats me to it. | ||
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Mulletarian
Norway101 Posts
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Aim Here
Scotland672 Posts
On July 23 2011 17:54 GunSec wrote: It was the opposite, he had connections to the right extreme and was probably a nazi himself. "Nazi" is a bad term to use, since he was some flavour of far rightwinger, but probably not that particular flavour. He described himself as 'conservative nationalist' - his Facebook heroes were Winston Churchill and some Norwegian resistance fighter. From his political forum posts, he does appear to be somewhat Islamophobic (as opposed to antiSemitic), with views similar to those of the rightmost end of modern Western European Parliamentary parties - I'd put his views somewhere among the likes of Geert Wilders or Pim Fortuyn, or their nonDutch equivalents, say. On July 23 2011 17:58 Mulletarian wrote: Do not try to apply rational thought to a person who does a thing like this. I disagree entirely. This guys crimes are terrible, but they're hardly inexplicable. Exactly what he hoped to achieve by murdering a bunch of somewhat leftwing kids is unclear at the moment, but it's not hard to come up with a few reasonable speculations as to what a solitary, fanatical right-winger would believe the result of this atrocity would be. | ||
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nukeazerg
United States168 Posts
On July 23 2011 17:58 Mulletarian wrote: Do not try to apply rational thought to a person who does a thing like this. So every terrorist is irrational? That is not true. | ||
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FrostFire626
United States79 Posts
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sCfO20
176 Posts
Why treat him different? Norway doesn't need a patriot act, because they actually have a working democracy with all its perks. You should try to live in a country that has FREEDOM and not a government constantly lying and hiding facts from the public. Just because he has killed alot of people doesn't justify that anyone has the right to kill him. LOL epic post. What, the Watergate scandal? That was like thirty years ago. America is a free nation, regardless of what you think. You can achieve whatever you'd like here, with enough effort and hard work, and no one can persecute you. Equal opportunity. I think it's funny how you people from across the pond look down on us, when all we ever try to do is the same shit you all do. Live, very very long, and prosper. | ||
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Dooba
Croatia588 Posts
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CCow
Germany335 Posts
On July 23 2011 17:54 GunSec wrote: It was the opposite, he had connections to the right extreme and was probably a nazi himself. Right wing doesn't need to mean "nazi". Just an exerpt from http://www.document.no/anders-behring-breivik/ ,the site was mentioned here earlier: "For meg blir det svært hyklersk å behandle Muslimer, Nazister og Marxister forskjellig. De er alle tilhengere av hat-ideologier." Translates more or less to: "For me it's hypocritical to treat muslims, nazis and marxists differently. They are all suppprters of hate-ideologies." So whatever sick person he is, he isn't "nazi" or whatever. Also, I woudn't call him "irrational" or at least not if that means that he didn't calculate and evaluate what he was doing. I think he planned this pretty thouroughly. :'( | ||
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sureshot_
United States257 Posts
On July 23 2011 17:13 Atasu wrote: Are you really trying to compare two tragedies with their magnitudes? You are pathetic sir. Guess what, hundreds of thousands of people die due to PREVENTABLE causes in poorer countries and yet you cant seem to see out of your asshole, seriously people like you, piss me off, I am already saddened to hear the loss of promising and innocent lives and then this, sorry gotta rant. You do realize 9/11 was a series of 4 planes hijacked by members of a terrorist organization (located OUTSIDE THE UNITED STATES), aimed at destroying key, iconic government buildings in the heart of a foreign, western nation. An event fueled by hatred for western society and years of indirect/direct oppression. This is a shooting/bombing/attempted bombing carried out in Norway by a citizen of Norway, motivated by deranged ideological believes of a psychopathic-free mason. They're not even remotely similar besides the fact that they're both acts of terrorism. Guess what? These aren't the only two acts of terrorism seen worldwide. I gave an example of an event which is far more similar to this shooting than the catastrophe of 9/11 that people are somehow finding as a more accurate comparison. Magnitude was one contrast, but a minor point. You're contrasting this to third-world issues now? I fail to see how that even refutes my point. You don't need to call me pathetic, or flame for that matter, to get your point across... even if it is a sensitive topic. | ||
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nukeazerg
United States168 Posts
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p0lyph0ny
United States217 Posts
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Plexa
Aotearoa39261 Posts
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Garm
Norway222 Posts
On July 23 2011 17:54 GunSec wrote: It was the opposite, he had connections to the right extreme and was probably a nazi himself. Not necessarily. He was a racist, yes, but he was more likely an extreme nationalist that hated all foreigners. That he liked anti-nazi on FB just means that he is against any kind of foreign influence on our country. I've been noticing this disturbing trend for years. A lot of people, even among my friends, are of the opinion that only "pure" norwegians should live in Norway, and all muslims etc. should be thrown out. Unfortunately I think it was just a matter of time before something like this happened. | ||
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sCfO20
176 Posts
Seems he was obsessed with vigilantism (The Shield, Dexter, First Blood) are his favorite shows. That's disgusting. These people didn't deserve to be cut short like this. The sick fuck probably did some real big mental backflips to be able to justify this. | ||
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