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Keep your off topic discussions out of this thread and show some damn respect!
Erucious
Profile Joined March 2010
Norway393 Posts
July 23 2011 09:39 GMT
#321
On July 23 2011 18:38 PeaNuT_T wrote:
They have death penalty for treason against your country in Norway, not sure if this would count as treason though.


either way, they should make an exception for this... this guy cannot be let loose again...
I'm Norwegian/Dutch. Just the awesome parts of them though :D
CCow
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany335 Posts
July 23 2011 09:40 GMT
#322
On July 23 2011 18:37 Typhus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2011 18:30 Wivyx wrote:
http://prableen.origo.no/-/bulletin/show/672218_helvete-paa-utoeya?ref=mst

Hell on Utøya. Really strong.

I don't feel like translating all of it, but here's an extract: "A man came. "I'm from the police". I kept still. Some yelled that he needed to prove it. I can't remember exactly what they said, but the killer started shooting. He reloaded. Fired some more. He shot those around med. I kept still thinking "It's over. He's here. He's going to take me. I'll die." People screamed. I heard others being shot. Others jumped in the water. I kept still. Phone in hand. (...) I acted dead for at least an hour. I carefully turned my head, looking for suvivors. I saw bodies. I saw blood. Fear. I decided to get up. I had been lying on a dead body. Two dead bodies had been lying on me. I had a guardian angel." ((Englevakt, directly translated meaning Angel Guard, is a common norwegian expression meaning that you've been incredibly lucky.))

I'm currently translating this in it's entirety, some of the most gripping/disturbing stuff i've ever read.

Yeah, so disturbing. How I was praying for him to find his best friend. Also feels so surreal, that in such a situation one would update twitter and FB. Such a moving blog!! Still crying alone in my room.
Wivyx
Profile Joined May 2009
Norway624 Posts
July 23 2011 09:41 GMT
#323
On July 23 2011 18:39 Erucious wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2011 18:38 PeaNuT_T wrote:
They have death penalty for treason against your country in Norway, not sure if this would count as treason though.


either way, they should make an exception for this... this guy cannot be let loose again...


Wasn't death penalty for treason removed during the 60s?

Making any political change might actually give the lunatic more pleasure. He's a right-wing extremist targetting the youth of the labour party. Political change is probably his goal.
TheSilverfox
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden1928 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-23 09:42:58
July 23 2011 09:41 GMT
#324
This is some seriously sick guy. Eye-witness says the following:

"The first thing the shooter did was to shoot the first cute girl he saw"

So this guy goes to some youths who are having a peaceful political conference in Norway to shoot over 80 of them, and he starts with the cutest one he could find.^

Source: http://www.vg.no/nyheter/innenriks/oslobomben/artikkel.php?artid=10080627
Also known as Joinsimon on Twitter/Reddit
Rannasha
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Netherlands2398 Posts
July 23 2011 09:41 GMT
#325
On July 23 2011 18:38 PeaNuT_T wrote:
They have death penalty for treason against your country in Norway, not sure if this would count as treason though.


A lot of countries that don't have a regular death penalty, still have it for treason (mostly in wartime). This act, however damaging it was to Norway as a country, does not count as treason in any way though.
Such flammable little insects!
CCow
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany335 Posts
July 23 2011 09:42 GMT
#326
On July 23 2011 18:39 Erucious wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2011 18:38 PeaNuT_T wrote:
They have death penalty for treason against your country in Norway, not sure if this would count as treason though.


either way, they should make an exception for this... this guy cannot be let loose again...

If anything this would just be a victory for that guy.
Other people said there are rules to keep people for him locked down forever. I'm sure that they will make sure he does not get out again. Ever.
shabby
Profile Joined March 2010
Norway6402 Posts
July 23 2011 09:42 GMT
#327
On July 23 2011 18:38 PeaNuT_T wrote:
They have death penalty for treason against your country in Norway, not sure if this would count as treason though.


No we don't, it was abolished 32 years ago.
Jaedong, Gumibear, Leenock, Byun
Ghad
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway2551 Posts
July 23 2011 09:42 GMT
#328
Death Penalty has been abolished in Norway, that option is not in any way, shape or form on the table.
forgottendreams: One underage girl, two drunk guys, one gogo dancer and starcraft 2. Apparently just another day in Europe.
Weson
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Iceland1032 Posts
July 23 2011 09:44 GMT
#329
On July 23 2011 18:39 Erucious wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2011 18:38 PeaNuT_T wrote:
They have death penalty for treason against your country in Norway, not sure if this would count as treason though.


either way, they should make an exception for this... this guy cannot be let loose again...

I have a feeling he wont last long in prison. How is the security in norwegian prisons? Is it common that people get killed in prisons?
The price on this guys head must be huge.

I'm not hoping he gets killed but i think its a big possibility that he will.
"!@€#" - as some guy said
MasterFischer
Profile Joined August 2009
Denmark836 Posts
July 23 2011 09:44 GMT
#330
Give me a good reason why we SHOULDN'T execute this man ASAP?

Yea, interrogate him, learn what you can, THEN maybe destroy this man. Every moment he is a live, is a disgrace to the human race, so much media spectacle about it. Just kill him and be on the way to recovery.

And to the people saying revenge doesnt change anything yayadadadada.... FUCK YOU.

Tell that to the 90 families of dead people now... just shut your mouth, you're being disrespectful.

There is absolutely no good argument as to WHY we should let this mass murdering fuckhead live another day, other than to maybe torture him and set and example. (partly kidding) but still.

The worst part is, he will now live in prison for only 23 years since this is the max sentence in norway, and he will probaly get to release books and articles on why he did it .. and shit..
WHO is this who speaks to me as though I needed his advice?
de7dv
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden8 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-23 09:45:42
July 23 2011 09:44 GMT
#331
A friend was at the bomb site yesterday, but is all right.It's hard to imagine that he could just as well have died. Waked up to the revided death toll this morning. What kind of person have it in him to kill so many?


My condolences to all victims and their close ones
nukeazerg
Profile Joined June 2011
United States168 Posts
July 23 2011 09:45 GMT
#332
A little weird that there is a camp to indoctrinate such young kids in partisan politics. Probably makes them feel all self-important that they can change the world through politics. They can right all the wrongs through government action.
Rubyfire
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany186 Posts
July 23 2011 09:46 GMT
#333
Also some people's comments on this serialkiller-site are very disturbing. What the fuck is wrong with such assholes? When I heard this, I doubted that it was AQ since it's not their usual "pattern" to do such things at such times.
These stories are heartbreaking, I'm glad that they made it out alive.
Nothing suits me like a suit.
zeru
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
8156 Posts
July 23 2011 09:46 GMT
#334
--- Nuked ---
HoldenR
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands256 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-23 09:47:50
July 23 2011 09:46 GMT
#335
On July 23 2011 18:44 MasterFischer wrote:
Give me a good reason why we SHOULDN'T execute this man ASAP?

Yea, interrogate him, learn what you can, THEN maybe destroy this man. Every moment he is a live, is a disgrace to the human race, so much media spectacle about it. Just kill him and be on the way to recovery.

And to the people saying revenge doesnt change anything yayadadadada.... FUCK YOU.

Tell that to the 90 families of dead people now... just shut your mouth, you're being disrespectful.

There is absolutely no good argument as to WHY we should let this mass murdering fuckhead live another day, other than to maybe torture him and set and example. (partly kidding) but still.

The worst part is, he will now live in prison for only 23 years since this is the max sentence in norway, and he will probaly get to release books and articles on why he did it .. and shit..


Because that was the aim of his attack.

You idiots need to stop asking for his death. Effectively, reinstating the death penalty is him achieving what he aimed for, making the liberal policies of norway be reconsidered and swing more right wing.

Norway does not want to let him win and it's a damn good thing they don't. It would be a disgrace to the memory all those who died because of his actions, left leaning political activists, if the laws were changed to be more conservative/right-wing for their sake. They wouldn't want that, and Norway is right not to.
Thorakh
Profile Joined April 2011
Netherlands1788 Posts
July 23 2011 09:48 GMT
#336
On July 23 2011 18:46 HoldenR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2011 18:44 MasterFischer wrote:
Give me a good reason why we SHOULDN'T execute this man ASAP?

Yea, interrogate him, learn what you can, THEN maybe destroy this man. Every moment he is a live, is a disgrace to the human race, so much media spectacle about it. Just kill him and be on the way to recovery.

And to the people saying revenge doesnt change anything yayadadadada.... FUCK YOU.

Tell that to the 90 families of dead people now... just shut your mouth, you're being disrespectful.

There is absolutely no good argument as to WHY we should let this mass murdering fuckhead live another day, other than to maybe torture him and set and example. (partly kidding) but still.

The worst part is, he will now live in prison for only 23 years since this is the max sentence in norway, and he will probaly get to release books and articles on why he did it .. and shit..


Because that was the aim of his attack.

You idiots need to stop asking for his death. Effectively, reinstating the death penalty is him achieving what he aimed for, making the liberal policies of norway be reconsidered and swing more right wing.

Norway does not want to let him win and it's a damn good thing they don't. It would be a disgrace to the memory all those who died today, left leaning political activists, if the laws were changed to be more conservative/right-wing for their sake. They wouldn't want that, and Norway is right not to.
This. Actually, killing him is disrespectful to the families because then he gets what he wants. So you shut your mouth.
BasedSwag
Profile Joined April 2010
Algeria418 Posts
July 23 2011 09:49 GMT
#337
On July 23 2011 18:45 nukeazerg wrote:
A little weird that there is a camp to indoctrinate such young kids in partisan politics. Probably makes them feel all self-important that they can change the world through politics. They can right all the wrongs through government action.


They should right the wrongs through killing people instead, right? What's your problem?
Bobble
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia1493 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-23 09:50:00
July 23 2011 09:49 GMT
#338
On July 23 2011 18:44 MasterFischer wrote:
Give me a good reason why we SHOULDN'T execute this man ASAP?

Yea, interrogate him, learn what you can, THEN maybe destroy this man. Every moment he is a live, is a disgrace to the human race, so much media spectacle about it. Just kill him and be on the way to recovery.

And to the people saying revenge doesnt change anything yayadadadada.... FUCK YOU.

Tell that to the 90 families of dead people now... just shut your mouth, you're being disrespectful.

There is absolutely no good argument as to WHY we should let this mass murdering fuckhead live another day, other than to maybe torture him and set and example. (partly kidding) but still.

The worst part is, he will now live in prison for only 23 years since this is the max sentence in norway, and he will probaly get to release books and articles on why he did it .. and shit..


Well for one thing, it degrades ourselves to kill people, no matter how just it is. Another thing, his reasons are political. Making him a special case and killing him basically proves a little of his 'cause'. And honestly, just because people don't share your opinions on vengeance, doesn't mean they are disrespectful in any way.

And please read the OP. It's highly unlikely he will be in jail for any other time than the rest of his life.
Aim Here
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Scotland672 Posts
July 23 2011 09:50 GMT
#339
On July 23 2011 18:44 MasterFischer wrote:
Give me a good reason why we SHOULDN'T execute this man ASAP?


Aside from the fact that killing people except in self defence is wrong, this guy was a right-wing conservative whose crimes were aimed squarely at the leftish government. He's probably more opposed to Norway's liberal prison regime than you are.

Refusing to change a single thing about how they attempt to rule Norway would be the best revenge they could have on this guy. It would be a way of saying that THEIR way works and that this loser will have just pissed away his life for nothing.
Skaya
Profile Joined August 2010
United States126 Posts
July 23 2011 09:50 GMT
#340
my thoughts with norway and the families of the victims.

if you have a twitter account support norway with a twibbon
http://twibbon.com/join/Norway-4
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