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Deadlyhazard
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1177 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-22 03:41:24
July 22 2011 03:40 GMT
#101
I'm turning 21 and still a virgin. Hell, I've never even had a girlfriend. I have one friend that's a girl, that I haven't actually physically seen in 2 years (OK once since then). You're in good company broski. *Nerdhighfive*

Unfortunately it's not from choice ;__________;
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Alejandrisha
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6566 Posts
July 22 2011 03:41 GMT
#102
On July 22 2011 12:36 pedrotrv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2011 12:23 KimJongChill wrote:
I think it's the idea that sexual intercourse is indicative of a certain degree of social and physical worth, and that those who don't have sex are likely lacking in either or both aspects. Does not having sex make you a loser? Well, valuation is subjective, so it all depends on how you define success and self worth.


Not having sex defines you as a failure as a male of your species. We can't fight biology. I don't think valuation is that subjective in this topic, because we are born to do it, and we all want to do it. This is my view.

I don't defend that pussy should be pursued before everything else, but it's pretty important stuff for a guy.

---
This topic is kinda meh. I defend masculinism (anti-feminism) points of view and all I can see here are a lot of opinions that make me sad. C'mon guys, we are men, natural born hunters!!


This is actually wrong. Don't feed bullshit and try to make the OP feel like an idiot. Sex in humans is different than sex as we observe it from an evolutionary standpoint. Why? culture. Do species we observe in nature have religion? Is it legally/morally wrong for a x year old panda to have sex with a y year old panda? No.

The sex he is talking about is not necessarily to procreate. If a tortoise has sex with another tortoise but pulls out, or uses a condom, and fails to reproduce and then dies, then he has 'failed' to create grandchildren and is a failure by an evolutionary standpoint. These sexual "conquests" of losing virginity at a certain age in neither here nor there. You think a 14 year old that has sex and gets the girl pregnant is proud of his accomplishment and revered by everyone in his community because he has successfully procreated? No. Sex is, almost inexclusively, part of the life of every human's life and his or her access to it is not a function of his evolutionary success.

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sealpuncher
Profile Joined April 2011
United States130 Posts
July 22 2011 03:41 GMT
#103
If I have sex before I'm married I would get expelled from my university and would be ostracized by my family. But I'm not worried about it. It happens when it happens and not forcing it seems like it's the smart thing to do and not the loser thing to do.
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Power Overwhelming
Profile Joined July 2011
46 Posts
July 22 2011 03:42 GMT
#104
Based solely on what you wrote, either you're with the wrong company or you're just a confused little kid who needs to see more of life.

On the other hand, the topic might have some merit if written with more insight. My advice, take it easy kid, just wing it.
Alpino
Profile Joined June 2011
Brazil4390 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-22 03:52:24
July 22 2011 03:46 GMT
#105
You don't exaclty need sex. But it's good as hell. In fact sex is so good I started masturbating more after I lost my virginity for some time. And it just makes it that much easier for you, when the "mystique" is unraveled.

I'm one of those people who think that teenagers NOT having sex is a grave, grave mistake, i just get so angry(with both involved) when I see a boy who says "oh she won't let me have sex with her..but it's okay..", two young people should do what their best at, and what they'll enjoy the most. It is something you'll do for the rest of your life, there is no difference when you start doing it.(given that the other person is not a much older person taking advantage of you ofc).

The only problem is when people make sex more than it is. Make it value more than it does. In the end it is just two bodies going at each other, for their own selfish pleasure. Rejoice on that. It is when we are most close to our animal side we reliquish everyday. And that to me, is true enlightenment(not exactly sex, but when you are in touch with your inner being, the one centuries of evolution molded, not society's culture) .

I'm not even begin to talk about religion and sex because the shitstorm will get effin heavy(I stopped believing in god when I was 11).

(sorry for bad english.)
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Alejandrisha
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6566 Posts
July 22 2011 03:48 GMT
#106
On July 22 2011 12:46 Alpino wrote:
The only problem is when people make sex more than it is. Make it value more than it does. In the end it is just two bodies going at each other, for their own selfish pleasure. Rejoice on that. It is when we are most close to our animal side we reliquish everyday. And that to me, is true enlightenment(not exactly sex, but when you are in touch with your inner being, the one centuries of evolution molded, not society's culture) .

(sorry for bad english.)


I'll drink to that
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phyre112
Profile Joined August 2009
United States3090 Posts
July 22 2011 03:49 GMT
#107
On July 22 2011 12:21 NotJack wrote:
A lottttttt of denial in this thread.

Nothing wrong with being a virgin; I won't hate on you and I feel bad that you have to put up with so many idiots out there, but they're idiots for judging you like that, not for being socially and sexually active.


Personally, I'm a 20 year old virgin. I'm not your typical awkward basement-dwelling videogame nerd; I work a decent job, go out to parties all the time, have a large circle of friends, do well in school, work out, etc. etc. In all respects, I am an average or better, pretty cool guy. Hell, I've had a couple girls approach me about a relationship, what seems to me to be completely out of left field.

Thing is, I just don't give a fuck. Sure, I'm religious. Sure, I'm a guy, and I know sex is supposed to be really awesome. But it is never something that has been a sticking point in my mind, it has never been a goal or a focus of mine. I don't go out looking to get laid. I don't talk to a girl expecting anything other than a fun conversation. Sure... if I worked for it, I could probably have sex.... but really, I don't care. And if I don't think it's a big deal, who's to say that it is?
YouGotNothin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States907 Posts
July 22 2011 03:51 GMT
#108
Be proud your a virgin! It will probably happen eventually, and sure it may be strange the first time, but you'll likely get more chances if it is with someone you are in a relationship with. And in no time you'll appreciate sex, but it doesn't mean you'll have to have it all the time afterwards. It can be amazing but so can a lot of other things.

Also be happy that while you're a virgin you don't have to worry about having unwanted kids or STD's.

I got nothin'...
lorkac
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2297 Posts
July 22 2011 03:51 GMT
#109
Sigh, I don't want to get into a debate about misogyny so I'm going to bow out of this thread.
By the truth we are undone. Life is a dream. Tis waking that kills us. He who robs us of our dreams robs us of our life --Orlando: A Biography
Loser777
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
1931 Posts
July 22 2011 03:54 GMT
#110
I don't need to be a virgin to be called a Loser AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA...

Personally I think 21 years old is a bit too early to be worrying about being a virgin O_o. It's more of a nominal accomplishment than anything else.
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THE_DOMINATOR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States309 Posts
July 22 2011 03:56 GMT
#111
If it isn't a big deal to you why did you make a thread about it?

Yea, you feel a lot of pressure on you when you're a virgin. I got laid just so I could get over it, which led to a chain of events that got me a wonderful girlfriend. Point is, it's going to bother you until you stop giving a fuck and you screw the first chick you meet. The first time will be the worst and probably really awkward but after that it's great fun and the best stress relief out there. Go live life.
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super_toast
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States269 Posts
July 22 2011 03:58 GMT
#112
I love how before you have sex you spend all your energy trying to get it, but after it just kind of comes to you. It's a pretty big deal in American society, but then again it's not that hard to get laid so I don't see a problem
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Twistacles
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada1327 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-22 04:00:08
July 22 2011 03:58 GMT
#113
I believe that it's good to wait to give up your virginity to someone you truly care about, or at least like. The stress on 'being a virgin' has a lot to do with alpha-male behavior. If you are 'alpha' you will be able to get it quite easily. The assumption is that you aren't having sex because you can't, therefore you'
re a beta, meaning you're lesser.

Honestly, though, any smart person can read up on the female psychology and become an 'alpha' with a bit of effort.

Truth is, though, is that it is as awesome as people say.
"If you don't give a shit which gum you buy, get stride" - Tyler
katzby
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States110 Posts
July 22 2011 04:00 GMT
#114
For me it was by choice. For starters, I have had 'opportunities' but why should I have sex just for the sake of saying that I had sex. Sometimes I feel peer-pressured and a little embarrassed but then logic hits me on the face and I'm snapped back to reality. People should just have sex with people whom they trust and they know they can be safe with.

As for me, there's so many things that could happen that prevent me from continuing the 'opportunities' I get. What if I get pregnant, what if I get STDs, what if this guy wants something more than a fling, and the perennial what if I just want to have sex because I'm stupidly drunk.

But then again it all boils down to personal choice. Choosing to have sex is a personal part of peoples' lives and their own choices should be respected.
Zerksys
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States569 Posts
July 22 2011 04:01 GMT
#115
Sex isn't overrated, but I do feel that society puts too much of a stigma on it negative or positive. I've gone to places where if you've had premarital sex people start to look at you differently. Consequently I've been to places where they do consider you a looser if you're a virgin. I think we should just give up on judging people based upon the all powerful V card.
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NotJack
Profile Joined December 2009
United States737 Posts
July 22 2011 04:05 GMT
#116
On July 22 2011 12:49 phyre112 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2011 12:21 NotJack wrote:
A lottttttt of denial in this thread.

Nothing wrong with being a virgin; I won't hate on you and I feel bad that you have to put up with so many idiots out there, but they're idiots for judging you like that, not for being socially and sexually active.


Personally, I'm a 20 year old virgin. I'm not your typical awkward basement-dwelling videogame nerd; I work a decent job, go out to parties all the time, have a large circle of friends, do well in school, work out, etc. etc. In all respects, I am an average or better, pretty cool guy. Hell, I've had a couple girls approach me about a relationship, what seems to me to be completely out of left field.

Thing is, I just don't give a fuck. Sure, I'm religious. Sure, I'm a guy, and I know sex is supposed to be really awesome. But it is never something that has been a sticking point in my mind, it has never been a goal or a focus of mine. I don't go out looking to get laid. I don't talk to a girl expecting anything other than a fun conversation. Sure... if I worked for it, I could probably have sex.... but really, I don't care. And if I don't think it's a big deal, who's to say that it is?


Not giving a fuck isn't a good point. Either you're just saying stuff to feel better, or you're making a useless point.

If you're a socially capable person that just doesn't care about it, you shouldn't be in this conversation.

Personally I'm about to be a junior in college and my goal for this year is to meet someone I have a real relationship with. Not a one night stand or mindless frat rat, but someone I actually care about. That said, I wouldn't change the last two years for anything.
Alejandrisha
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6566 Posts
July 22 2011 04:05 GMT
#117
On July 22 2011 12:49 phyre112 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2011 12:21 NotJack wrote:
A lottttttt of denial in this thread.

Nothing wrong with being a virgin; I won't hate on you and I feel bad that you have to put up with so many idiots out there, but they're idiots for judging you like that, not for being socially and sexually active.


Personally, I'm a 20 year old virgin. I'm not your typical awkward basement-dwelling videogame nerd; I work a decent job, go out to parties all the time, have a large circle of friends, do well in school, work out, etc. etc. In all respects, I am an average or better, pretty cool guy. Hell, I've had a couple girls approach me about a relationship, what seems to me to be completely out of left field.

Thing is, I just don't give a fuck. Sure, I'm religious. Sure, I'm a guy, and I know sex is supposed to be really awesome. But it is never something that has been a sticking point in my mind, it has never been a goal or a focus of mine. I don't go out looking to get laid. I don't talk to a girl expecting anything other than a fun conversation. Sure... if I worked for it, I could probably have sex.... but really, I don't care. And if I don't think it's a big deal, who's to say that it is?


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GloomyBeaR
Profile Joined December 2010
United States77 Posts
July 22 2011 04:08 GMT
#118
I'm pretty sure nobody cares that you're a virgin. Not to say that in a demeaning way, but it's just not that big a deal. I think a lot of the stigma that was associated with it was a guy not knowing what to do, but I'm sure you've seen enough porn to know what hole to stick it in and what a girl is going to like, etc.

You can take solace in the fact that anyone who gives you shit for being a virgin is either a closet virgin themselves or doesn't actually like/appreciate sex and sees it as another social obligation/bragging right, or something equally horrid.

I honestly think you have the right mindset and have nothing to worry about in life.
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LaSt)ChAnCe
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States2179 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-22 04:09:21
July 22 2011 04:08 GMT
#119
On July 22 2011 11:55 MrMotionPicture wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2011 11:53 Dhalphir wrote:
On July 22 2011 11:51 travis wrote:
On July 22 2011 11:50 Dhalphir wrote:
Its really easy to make silly posts like this before you've had sex. You will not question the importance of a healthy and good sex life when you've experienced one.

You cannot have a healthy relationship without good sex. If you are not having sex, what you have is a friendship, and nothing more.

Period.


What is unhealthy about friendships?


Nothing is unhealthy about a friendship, unless you're trying to pretend it is something more than it is.

To be honest, I do not see how sex should essentially be the focal point of a relationship. There are many more aspects than that, and it really shouldn't have to be necessary.


sex is the entire point of a relationship (in the sense of relationships we are talking about)

men and women are attracted to each other for reproductive reasons, that reproduction requires sex (let's not split hairs and talk about artificial insemination, etc)
Perseverance
Profile Joined February 2010
Japan2800 Posts
July 22 2011 04:10 GMT
#120
I think the "averange dim-witted tool" got it right this time. If there's nothing holding you back from sex (i.e. morals) and you are interested in sex but still haven't had it at your current age...you are probably a loser.

Sex is great
Sex is awesome
Sex is wonderful

Society doesn't place too much value in sex, sex is just awesome and society understands that.


Go buy a hooker and come back to us.
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