Not having sex doesn't make you any less of a man. But beating up women or doing fucked up shit like that does. So just don't worry about being a virgin too much.
On July 22 2011 11:38 heroyi wrote: I am 20 years old about to hit 21 and am still a virgin. What is the point of the said statement?
Well to an avg-dimwitted tool, I would be considered a "loser." Is this a valid assumption?
Society puts a lot of pressure, especially on pre-teens, on the idea of you must have sex else you are just a loser. They portray that you can't achieve a fulfilling happy life without and everybody is doing it and it is easy as 1,2,3.Despite there being studies showing both men and women who have engaged in sexual activity despite not wanting to or feeling "ready."
I do wish someday to experience it (ultimately to have kids and raise a family) however I do feel that people are raising the point up too frequently and giving it too much value. Is it really something that should be highly regarded where if you fail to achieve such feat then you are looked down upon?
discuss??
edit: I am not a religious person. I raised the point just for curiosity sake.
However if you are asking whether I am religious or not due to my virginity then no. I am a virgin just because fate has not allowed to experience it...but that is not the point
edit 2: I did not state nor do I "value" virginity highly. I am asking if sex topic, in general, is over valued in society. This topic ties to a lot of other things. It connects to the problems little girls with social images of you have to have a 32C boobs and have slim slender body else you are not socially acceptable. It connects to "porn" addiction with the arise of the internet. Which also connects to people have super high expectation of what sex should be (i.e threesome is not as prominent as people think) etc...
understand now?
American society is deeply misogynistic and hence they enjoy claiming the domination of women through sex and other means as medals of pride and masculinity.
It's not that virgins are shunned because they haven't had sex (if you really wanted sex you could just pay a hooker for a one night stand--but people will look down on you for that) the reason virgins are shunned is because they haven't dominated a woman. A male who has a girlfriend that he has sex with regularly is considered pussy-whipped if he is accommodating and on equal terms with the woman and hence he is equally shunned as the virgin.
So to answer your question, it is not the sex that matters--it is the misogyny that matters to society.
A good point. I can't think of any counterarguments.
Just in response to some of the derogatory comments, OP are you religious?
I'd like to add an opinion to this thread. Perhaps we've all been taking love to be something that it's not. Love is portrayed as something magical, when it's really just hormones and biological instinct trying to get you to reproduce and raise viable offspring. Love, and sex are just biological processes. They're kinda like eating or shitting.
In this line of thought, one should recognize that it's easy to fall in "love" with any girl that comes up to you, but to maximize overall happiness, in life, (and I'm not certain about this) it would be best to find a partner similar to oneself to spend time with. Hold out on finding the right person.
TL:DR, it's rational to just go after girls you like and not try to maximize sex.
On July 22 2011 11:38 heroyi wrote: I am 20 years old about to hit 21 and am still a virgin. What is the point of the said statement?
Well to an avg-dimwitted tool, I would be considered a "loser." Is this a valid assumption?
Society puts a lot of pressure, especially on pre-teens, on the idea of you must have sex else you are just a loser. They portray that you can't achieve a fulfilling happy life without and everybody is doing it and it is easy as 1,2,3.Despite there being studies showing both men and women who have engaged in sexual activity despite not wanting to or feeling "ready."
I do wish someday to experience it (ultimately to have kids and raise a family) however I do feel that people are raising the point up too frequently and giving it too much value. Is it really something that should be highly regarded where if you fail to achieve such feat then you are looked down upon?
discuss??
edit: I am not a religious person. I raised the point just for curiosity sake.
However if you are asking whether I am religious or not due to my virginity then no. I am a virgin just because fate has not allowed to experience it...but that is not the point
edit 2: I did not state nor do I "value" virginity highly. I am asking if sex topic, in general, is over valued in society. This topic ties to a lot of other things. It connects to the problems little girls with social images of you have to have a 32C boobs and have slim slender body else you are not socially acceptable. It connects to "porn" addiction with the arise of the internet. Which also connects to people have super high expectation of what sex should be (i.e threesome is not as prominent as people think) etc...
understand now?
American society is deeply misogynistic and hence they enjoy claiming the domination of women through sex and other means as medals of pride and masculinity.
It's not that virgins are shunned because they haven't had sex (if you really wanted sex you could just pay a hooker for a one night stand--but people will look down on you for that) the reason virgins are shunned is because they haven't dominated a woman. A male who has a girlfriend that he has sex with regularly is considered pussy-whipped if he is accommodating and on equal terms with the woman and hence he is equally shunned as the virgin.
So to answer your question, it is not the sex that matters--it is the misogyny that matters to society.
Just in response to some of the derogatory comments, OP are you religious?
.
read the very first post. very first post first post
Sex is pretty overrated imo, more fun things you can do with your time. This is coming from somebody who does have regular encounters with females before you make jokes btw :p
On July 22 2011 11:50 Dhalphir wrote: Its really easy to make silly posts like this before you've had sex. You will not question the importance of a healthy and good sex life when you've experienced one.
You cannot have a healthy relationship without good sex. If you are not having sex, what you have is a friendship, and nothing more.
Period.
You are going to have a very difficult time with relationships with that sort of view. In fact, this sort of attitude is precisely why relationships are always so shitty in America. Don't know about other places...
On July 22 2011 11:47 mprs wrote: The only respectful stance on this issue is the one that you come up with yourself.
I'll expand on this with my own life, but at the end this wonderful sentiment by mprs is exactly what I wanted to say.
I lost my virginity when I was 17. Out of my friends in the middle of the pack but by comparison of my classmates, I was at least four years late.
It didn't bother me. Around 14 I realized how lonely I was and wanted sex. However I was contemptuous of the horror.. I mean bragging stories of my classmates of awesome first time sex while some random other guy was sleeping next to them. It motivated me to wait, not just for the right moment but for the right person. Not the person, just someone that would mean a lot more than my first.
We ended up moving in together within a year and lived together for four years. It was the most amazing period of my life and I'll love her until Alzheimer's takes over.
So, delaying losing your virginity is so much more inconsequential than being a slut. Promiscuity isn't wrong, it- like what I did- is just a choice and yours to make. Just don't let society or friends force you to do something you don't want to. It'll only ruin something you want to remember.
Is sex OP in society? Sure. So are M&Ms. Society shouldn't dictate you.
On July 22 2011 11:38 heroyi wrote: I am 20 years old about to hit 21 and am still a virgin. What is the point of the said statement?
Well to an avg-dimwitted tool, I would be considered a "loser." Is this a valid assumption?
Society puts a lot of pressure, especially on pre-teens, on the idea of you must have sex else you are just a loser. They portray that you can't achieve a fulfilling happy life without and everybody is doing it and it is easy as 1,2,3.Despite there being studies showing both men and women who have engaged in sexual activity despite not wanting to or feeling "ready."
I do wish someday to experience it (ultimately to have kids and raise a family) however I do feel that people are raising the point up too frequently and giving it too much value. Is it really something that should be highly regarded where if you fail to achieve such feat then you are looked down upon?
discuss??
edit: I am not a religious person. I raised the point just for curiosity sake.
However if you are asking whether I am religious or not due to my virginity then no. I am a virgin just because fate has not allowed to experience it...but that is not the point
edit 2: I did not state nor do I "value" virginity highly. I am asking if sex topic, in general, is over valued in society. This topic ties to a lot of other things. It connects to the problems little girls with social images of you have to have a 32C boobs and have slim slender body else you are not socially acceptable. It connects to "porn" addiction with the arise of the internet. Which also connects to people have super high expectation of what sex should be (i.e threesome is not as prominent as people think) etc...
understand now?
American society is deeply misogynistic and hence they enjoy claiming the domination of women through sex and other means as medals of pride and masculinity.
It's not that virgins are shunned because they haven't had sex (if you really wanted sex you could just pay a hooker for a one night stand--but people will look down on you for that) the reason virgins are shunned is because they haven't dominated a woman. A male who has a girlfriend that he has sex with regularly is considered pussy-whipped if he is accommodating and on equal terms with the woman and hence he is equally shunned as the virgin.
So to answer your question, it is not the sex that matters--it is the misogyny that matters to society.
Just in response to some of the derogatory comments, OP are you religious?
.
read the very first post. very first post first post
This reminds me of those [H] threads in the strategy section where people don't watch the replay but still give advice anyway. It's really funny if you think about it lol
On July 22 2011 11:38 heroyi wrote: I am 20 years old about to hit 21 and am still a virgin. What is the point of the said statement?
Well to an avg-dimwitted tool, I would be considered a "loser." Is this a valid assumption?
Society puts a lot of pressure, especially on pre-teens, on the idea of you must have sex else you are just a loser. They portray that you can't achieve a fulfilling happy life without and everybody is doing it and it is easy as 1,2,3.Despite there being studies showing both men and women who have engaged in sexual activity despite not wanting to or feeling "ready."
I do wish someday to experience it (ultimately to have kids and raise a family) however I do feel that people are raising the point up too frequently and giving it too much value. Is it really something that should be highly regarded where if you fail to achieve such feat then you are looked down upon?
discuss??
edit: I am not a religious person. I raised the point just for curiosity sake.
However if you are asking whether I am religious or not due to my virginity then no. I am a virgin just because fate has not allowed to experience it...but that is not the point
edit 2: I did not state nor do I "value" virginity highly. I am asking if sex topic, in general, is over valued in society. This topic ties to a lot of other things. It connects to the problems little girls with social images of you have to have a 32C boobs and have slim slender body else you are not socially acceptable. It connects to "porn" addiction with the arise of the internet. Which also connects to people have super high expectation of what sex should be (i.e threesome is not as prominent as people think) etc...
understand now?
American society is deeply misogynistic and hence they enjoy claiming the domination of women through sex and other means as medals of pride and masculinity.
It's not that virgins are shunned because they haven't had sex (if you really wanted sex you could just pay a hooker for a one night stand--but people will look down on you for that) the reason virgins are shunned is because they haven't dominated a woman. A male who has a girlfriend that he has sex with regularly is considered pussy-whipped if he is accommodating and on equal terms with the woman and hence he is equally shunned as the virgin.
So to answer your question, it is not the sex that matters--it is the misogyny that matters to society.
A good point. I can't think of any counterarguments.
Just in response to some of the derogatory comments, OP are you religious?
I'd like to add an opinion to this thread. Perhaps we've all been taking love to be something that it's not. Love is portrayed as something magical, when it's really just hormones and biological instinct trying to get you to reproduce and raise viable offspring. Love, and sex are just biological processes. They're kinda like eating or shitting.
In this line of thought, one should recognize that it's easy to fall in "love" with any girl that comes up to you, but to maximize overall happiness, in life, (and I'm not certain about this) it would be best to find a partner similar to oneself to spend time with. Hold out on finding the right person.
TL:DR, it's rational to just go after girls you like and not try to maximize sex.
I have a completely different point of view about this subject. Feminism is ruling everything now and any commentary/action disagreeing with women is considered misogynistic, when the truth is it's all the feminism fault.
Contraceptive methods are the ultimate liberation of the women's sexuality and we can see it in today's society. Sex was always a big deal for man (c'mon, if you don't think highly of sex, do it, get the hang of it and enjoy it) but it's now one of the center points of female liberty. That's why sex is sooooo overrated and we're seeing increases in teen pregnancy, low age sex and stuff like that.
I'm sry if my point is not clear, english is not my first language.
On July 22 2011 11:38 heroyi wrote: I am 20 years old about to hit 21 and am still a virgin. What is the point of the said statement?
Well to an avg-dimwitted tool, I would be considered a "loser." Is this a valid assumption?
Society puts a lot of pressure, especially on pre-teens, on the idea of you must have sex else you are just a loser. They portray that you can't achieve a fulfilling happy life without and everybody is doing it and it is easy as 1,2,3.Despite there being studies showing both men and women who have engaged in sexual activity despite not wanting to or feeling "ready."
I do wish someday to experience it (ultimately to have kids and raise a family) however I do feel that people are raising the point up too frequently and giving it too much value. Is it really something that should be highly regarded where if you fail to achieve such feat then you are looked down upon?
discuss??
edit: I am not a religious person. I raised the point just for curiosity sake.
However if you are asking whether I am religious or not due to my virginity then no. I am a virgin just because fate has not allowed to experience it...but that is not the point
edit 2: I did not state nor do I "value" virginity highly. I am asking if sex topic, in general, is over valued in society. This topic ties to a lot of other things. It connects to the problems little girls with social images of you have to have a 32C boobs and have slim slender body else you are not socially acceptable. It connects to "porn" addiction with the arise of the internet. Which also connects to people have super high expectation of what sex should be (i.e threesome is not as prominent as people think) etc...
understand now?
American society is deeply misogynistic and hence they enjoy claiming the domination of women through sex and other means as medals of pride and masculinity.
It's not that virgins are shunned because they haven't had sex (if you really wanted sex you could just pay a hooker for a one night stand--but people will look down on you for that) the reason virgins are shunned is because they haven't dominated a woman. A male who has a girlfriend that he has sex with regularly is considered pussy-whipped if he is accommodating and on equal terms with the woman and hence he is equally shunned as the virgin.
So to answer your question, it is not the sex that matters--it is the misogyny that matters to society.
A good point. I can't think of any counterarguments.
Just in response to some of the derogatory comments, OP are you religious?
I'd like to add an opinion to this thread. Perhaps we've all been taking love to be something that it's not. Love is portrayed as something magical, when it's really just hormones and biological instinct trying to get you to reproduce and raise viable offspring. Love, and sex are just biological processes. They're kinda like eating or shitting.
In this line of thought, one should recognize that it's easy to fall in "love" with any girl that comes up to you, but to maximize overall happiness, in life, (and I'm not certain about this) it would be best to find a partner similar to oneself to spend time with. Hold out on finding the right person.
TL:DR, it's rational to just go after girls you like and not try to maximize sex.
Yeah I agree with this sentiment. Society is pretty crazy when it comes to whether or not you should have sex, but I say why not? It's your personal preference if you want to do it just for fun or in a relationship too, although I do think being monogamous is healthier physically and mentally. Religious definitely has a firm grip on many people's views on the matter, so I think it's better to just disregard what society tells you and do what your good judgment tells you.
The title is really confusing when reading the OP. When I thought the OP was saying that sex is OP and therefore needs to be more balanced. Or I thought OP meant overpopulation.
I not want to critize the OP but i think thats not the right place to talk about the theme "is it a problem that im virgin" because here you are in a community of competive gamers or just gamers. I give you the advise to get this problem discussed with your friends if Sex is "op".
Being able to have sex is not a big deal, stop overrating it. Having a happy and long relationship with another member of the opposite sex is a bigger and more rare achievement. Only immature kids talk about sex as if it's the only thing that matter. It's like bragging about being in school or being able to drive, you are not special if you are not a virgin, or if you are one.
if your a straight person, of course you want sex with hot women, don't act like your better than having sex with a hot women when opportunity arise. sex is the continuation of a species. sex is important, unless you want your family tree to stop, which your ancestors would hate. the point of this thread sound like a whine of frustrated virgin/s.
EPT
