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LicH.
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
China235 Posts
August 31 2011 23:20 GMT
#761
On September 01 2011 08:17 shizna wrote:
some people say "there's only so much wanking you can do", i disagree.


This might be the best line in the whole thread rofl
puhveli-sven
Profile Joined August 2007
Finland8 Posts
August 31 2011 23:44 GMT
#762
On September 01 2011 07:58 GettingIt wrote:
So I guess what I'm trying to say is that sex is always nice because it feels great when your doing it, but its not special unless your doing it with someone you love or care about.


Casual sex is ok and fun. If both of you (or all of you, never know if there's more than 2 involved) just think of it as a fun activity, and keep it that way, then there's nothing wrong with it. The downside in casual sex with someone who you don't know very well, or at all, is that the experience might not live up to your expectations. Since everyone has a personal taste in foreplay etc. having sex in a relationship gets better the more you get to know your loved one.

And there's no need to rush into having sex, or into a relationship to have sex. If it is to happen, it will.
Please use me as a fertilizer, I deserve it.
Vei
Profile Joined March 2010
United States2845 Posts
September 01 2011 00:07 GMT
#763
sex may be overrated, but bjs man...think of the bjs.
www.justin.tv/veisc2 ~ 720p + commentary
Contagious
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
United States1319 Posts
September 01 2011 00:16 GMT
#764
On September 01 2011 09:07 Vei wrote:
sex may be overrated, but bjs man...think of the bjs.


BJs >
OS.Commander
Profile Joined May 2011
Colombia45 Posts
September 01 2011 00:25 GMT
#765
On August 31 2011 10:32 Fateless wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2011 05:50 Deadlyfish wrote:
Imagine if nobody cared or had ever cared about sex. Nobody tried to dress up and act cool or go on dates etc. With all that free time we'd probably be exploring other galaxies now. The top priority would no longer be sex. I'd sure like to be exploring other galaxies and living in a star wars type world. Sex has been holding us back for way too long.

Sex might've been useful back in the old days but today it's holding us back for sure. Instead of focusing on things that actually matter we're driven by this annoying instinct to have sex.



I agree with this 100%, With spaceships we could bone women from other planets Captain Kirk style. You trying to tell me you don't want to hook up with one of those green slave girls? We need to keep our eyes on the prize here as a planet and focus so that we can start having sex with alien women.

On a serious note, I've got some advice for the people in this thread who are QQing in their sex life.

learning to meet girls is a skill just like anything else. Take SC2 for instance, if all you do is cannon rush every time, you might get a few quick wins in, but ultimately you're going to be predictable and lonely and nobody will respect you, you'll end up kind of like Combat Ex. On the inverse, if all you ever do is play out the long term macro style, waiting for only the safest choices, you're going to miss out on a lot of potential wins, and other people who think and react more quickly will end up eating your lunch. You need to read the situation and determine how to react properly at all times.

Then there's the third type you see here, they don't even play the game. They might have slow hands or minds, they might get nervous really easy and lose games they should have won, instead of focusing and improving their skills they panic and give up. They post a bunch of QQ about how it's the games fault, and circumstances are against them, when in fact they just needed to focus and develop themselves.

Winning, and girls have one thing in common, they are drawn to confidence. So just remember, no matter how much you think your hand sucks, there is a guy fatter, dumber, nerdier, and more obnoxious than you who has a hot girlfriend because he believes in himself.


This metaphor is fantastic. I nominate this for best post of the year!
Clbull
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United Kingdom1439 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-01 00:28:53
September 01 2011 00:28 GMT
#766
On July 22 2011 11:47 question wrote:
True?sex is pretty good bro ,sux2bU

User was temp banned for this post.

I like it better when people actually speak in something that resembles a human language.

Also, I'm 19, still a virgin, it's no big deal.
Endymion
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States3701 Posts
September 01 2011 00:33 GMT
#767
On September 01 2011 09:07 Vei wrote:
sex may be overrated, but bjs man...think of the bjs.


sex > bjs any day of the week, would much rather have a happy gf and a happy dick than just a happy dick. plus sex is muchhh easier to pull off for women, so there is the newbie factor..
Have you considered the MMO-Champion forum? You are just as irrational and delusional with the right portion of nostalgic populism. By the way: The old Brood War was absolutely unplayable
Boltftw
Profile Joined November 2010
United States14 Posts
September 01 2011 00:55 GMT
#768
I have a lot of friends that haven't participated in sex. It is not because they do not want too, or that they are religious in anyway. It is probably because the moment never came.

I do think society puts a lot of pressure on you to have sex before/during college. If you look at all the current tv shows, and or movies all they ever talk about is getting laid. Do I think it is OP? It depends on how you look at it. If you have sex and you constantly crave it, it has a negative effect on you but if you only have sex when you think the moment is right it has many benefits towards your relationship. When it comes to people still being virgins, I do not care at all. It doesn't change the person and it doesn't make look at them in a different way, because it is their lives not mine.
eljezuz
Profile Joined August 2011
Mexico33 Posts
September 01 2011 01:00 GMT
#769
i think you shouldnt be worried about that issue, when it happens, you wont realize in the exact moment! make sure to have a condom in case you are on a party or have girlfriend.
and by this i mean, dont make it an obsession cause you are gonna want it more! . just let it happen and search love, thats 100 times better
gl hf!
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Cel.erity
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4890 Posts
September 01 2011 02:25 GMT
#770
On August 31 2011 22:08 Atreidz wrote:
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On August 31 2011 18:50 Cel.erity wrote:
In my opinion, being a virgin at 20 means two things:

1. Never been in a serious relationship.

2. Not desirable or sociable enough to hook up with friends/random girls.

Of course, there's always the religious fanatic/asexual option, but we're not really talking about that considering the tone of the OP.

When someone tells me they're a virgin, my opinion of them as a person doesn't exactly change, but in basically all cases it's because they are antisocial or in some way strange. I have plenty of antisocial/strange friends. However, wanting sex is the most natural thing for human beings, so the only two options for a 20-year old virgin are that they don't want it (strange) or they can't get it (not strange, but unfortunate).

I think the OP's point is that most people assume virgins are all in the second category, and that is true, because most people can't imagine someone who doesn't care about sex. Therefore they assume you really want sex like they do, and call you a loser for not being able to get it. There is some merit to this point of view, since getting laid is pretty much the easiest thing in the world if you have any social skills.

Note, I don't think you need to troll clubs and sleep with 10 women a week to be cool, but having one or two committed relationships would also make you a non-virgin, and even more cool.


Not to meaning to use your post as the "class example", but you bring up various points that are good to explore.

For example, look at your second point: "2. Not desirable or sociable enough to hook up with friends/random girls." What if you did not desire to hook up with friends or random girls? In fact hooking up with random people seems downright stupid to me (keyword being "me"). You should look at this point from the opposite perspective; not desiring to hook up with random people.


That is not what I said. I said being a virgin at 20 means TWO things, and you are using only one of my two points. The other point is that they have not yet been in a committed relationship, which in itself is strange for a 20-year old, but I guess understandable if they're the type of person who likes to sleep around a lot (I'm not).

Another point you make is that people who do not desire to have sex with random people are strange...


Nowhere did I make this point. If that's true, then I guess I am also strange.

You say that getting laid is the easiest thing in the world if you have social skills. It's generalizations such as this that allow societal preconceptions to continue. Sure, sex is easy to get, it just depends on the girl. For example there is a girl at my work who is unmarried, has a 6 year old at home, has another girl due in three months, and has already told me she would be trying harder to fuck me if she were younger, oh and she also said that the fact I'm not black is made up for by the fact I'm "cute". Is sex difficult to get? No I could honestly walk out my door and have it within ten minutes by going to any social scene and pretending to care about a girl for an hour.

To sum up my post I would have to say that sex has a lot to do with maturity. If you are 16-24 and think that virgins are probably losers, you need to grow up a little more because you will reach a point where you realize sex is easy and relatively boring unless you are with the person you care about.



I'm glad you seem to have completely and selectively ignored half of my two conditions, especially when it is restated in the very last sentence of my post. So you want to have sex with someone you care about? Good, find someone you care about then. It's not difficult, again, for anyone with good social skills, to find a girlfriend, have sex and be happy. It's sad but true that most people in their 20s who say "I'm waiting for the right girl" or "I'm just not interested in many girls" or whatever are simply not good with women and can't hold a girlfriend. They want happiness, they just can't get it. In my opinion, being bad with women does not make someone a "loser", that's a totally separate judgment. But it is what it is.
We found Dove in a soapless place.
Lamphead
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada241 Posts
September 01 2011 02:28 GMT
#771
sex is overrated, I've had it and it was decent to amazing, but honestly a good LAN party or SC2 stream beats some of the sex I've had..err, not speaking to my abilities in bed or anything, but just saying.
We didn't lose the game. We just ran out of time. - Vince Lombardi
Cel.erity
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4890 Posts
September 01 2011 02:31 GMT
#772
By the way, different argument, but possibly related to the OP. A lot of people in this thread have mentioned that they're choosing to wait, for religious reasons or otherwise. I think that is a terrible idea. If you marry your first, you will always wonder what sex is like with someone else, and so will they. This temptation makes it more likely that virgin newlyweds will cheat and get divorced (statistics back this up although I am only speculating about the cause) compared to non-religious and more experienced couples.

It's really good to have a lot of experience and know what you want sexually, before committing to a partner. There's nothing worse than realizing you and your partner are not compatible sexually.
We found Dove in a soapless place.
-fj.
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Samoa462 Posts
September 01 2011 02:37 GMT
#773
sex can be fun, or not so fun
drugs can be fun, or not so fun
sc2 can be fun, or not so fun

some people live their lives without playing SC
some people live their lives without doing drugs
some people live their lives without having sex

I've had a good time with all 3 at least one time in my life and would recommend them in general but personally i agree that the pressure to have sex is kind of silly in our society, just like how i feel the prohibition of most drugs in our society is kind of silly and how the stigma attached to gaming is silly
NEOtheONE
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2233 Posts
September 01 2011 03:08 GMT
#774
On September 01 2011 06:35 darklight54321 wrote:
On the religion argument.


Abraham had sex with women that were not his wife. This is just one example of how the bible does not follow what christians think it says (i'm christian, so dont say antyhing about atheist/anti-religion). The only reason why virginity is celebrated in modern cultures is from the Virgin Mary and other such stories. In islam, i believe it started because only a virgin was considered pure in body, and was treated differently in the ancient marriage customs.

All modern taboos about sex relating to religion are lies. Only a few, like adultery, are actually from christianity. Look through marriage ceremony even, there is no reference to virginity in such ceremonies. All the examples of sex that are looked down upon or retaliated by god are adultery or incest.


So dont give people the religious and virgin shite, they mean something completely different.

On the rest of your post (or half of it really) i'll just respectfuly disagree. I believe instead of hypersexuality occuring now, that it was hyposexuality for hundreds of years and we are just returning to that. Refer to my earlier post for the reason hyposexuality actually occured.


On the counter to your statement about religion I googled it and found this

""If a man finds a girl who is a virgin, who is not engaged, and seizes her and lies with her and they are discovered, (Deuteronomy 22:28)
then the man who lay with her shall give to the girl's father fifty shekels of silver, and she shall become his wife because he has violated her; he cannot divorce her all his days. (Deuteronomy 22:29)"

So in the Old Testament part of the Bible there was clearly a law regards to premarital sex.

Also, I found this quote "The Bible undeniably condemns adultery and sexual immorality, but is sex before marriage considered sexually immoral? According to 1 Corinthians 7:2, “yes” is the clear answer: “But since there is so much immorality, each man should have his own wife, and each woman her own husband.” In this verse, Paul states that marriage is the “cure” for sexual immorality. First Corinthians 7:2 is essentially saying that, because people cannot control themselves and so many are having immoral sex outside of marriage, people should get married. Then they can fulfill their passions in a moral way."

Also, Abraham existed before the creation of the the written law used by the Israelites. How can he break a law when neither the religion nor the law existed yet?
Abstracts, the too long didn't read of the educated world.
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
September 01 2011 03:50 GMT
#775
On September 01 2011 08:17 shizna wrote:
i'm still a virgin and i'm 27. i haven't had a girlfriend since i was about 14.

i don't have problems talking to people... i have many female friends around my age group, but i don't go the extra mile to get laid.

i even like flirting and groping (consensual) on a night out, but that's just my 'going out' face, in truth i don't particularly like the idea of a relationship and in my opinion one night stands are icky.

i think it's because i love myself too much. some people say "there's only so much wanking you can do", i disagree.

edit: by the way, i'm one of the least religious people on the planet. in my mind, i know with 100% certainty that there is no god, no heaven, no hell, no life after death etc.


Meaningless sex is meaningless if you want meaning in the act of sex. However, I can't.... I guess understand why you don't value a relationship. I love myself a lot too but I also love the feeling of having my girlfriend around to talk to, hang out, etc. It's not even about the sex, but the feeling trumps wanking it imo

A relationship is nothing more than a half-assed commitment anyway. What differs between a relationship and a friendship for you? Sex is the factor I'm assuming?

[I'm not hating by any means. I was just a bit curious since you're 27 and it seems like a choice at this point rather than just not getting some for you.]
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
Diizzy
Profile Joined August 2011
United States828 Posts
September 01 2011 04:04 GMT
#776
get a girlfriend. then its almost impossible to not have sex.
neyus
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada1 Post
September 01 2011 04:19 GMT
#777
Sex now a days has a lesser meaning to it and has been misused to the point where you'll end up having a baby when you arent even aware of it.

Thats when its kinda of messed up. People don't even respect themselves so they just shove their dicks anywhere without being cautious. With that being said I don't mistreat anyone who has sex with random people 24/7.

And to answer OPs question yes it is overrated because those people laughing at you arent close to being special.

The truth is that the media today is ALL ABOUT SEX. 80%-90% of the time, all the shows that are for older teens and young adult they intentionally throw some arousing stuff to stimulate your brain. Now dealing with that 24/7 you might as well get horny and have sex. If that doesn't work THEN you get peer pressured by a bunch of guys who aren't virgins telling you should get laid because its COOL EVERYONE IS DOING IT.

So don't be bothered by them. Sex is beautiful and great when done right and when done intimately. I suggest you find the right one and hopefully it works out.

I'm married btw, 23 years of age.
the truth will set you free
hummingbird23
Profile Joined September 2011
Norway359 Posts
September 01 2011 04:38 GMT
#778
On September 01 2011 09:25 OS.Commander wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2011 10:32 Fateless wrote:
On August 06 2011 05:50 Deadlyfish wrote:
Imagine if nobody cared or had ever cared about sex. Nobody tried to dress up and act cool or go on dates etc. With all that free time we'd probably be exploring other galaxies now. The top priority would no longer be sex. I'd sure like to be exploring other galaxies and living in a star wars type world. Sex has been holding us back for way too long.

Sex might've been useful back in the old days but today it's holding us back for sure. Instead of focusing on things that actually matter we're driven by this annoying instinct to have sex.



I agree with this 100%, With spaceships we could bone women from other planets Captain Kirk style. You trying to tell me you don't want to hook up with one of those green slave girls? We need to keep our eyes on the prize here as a planet and focus so that we can start having sex with alien women.

On a serious note, I've got some advice for the people in this thread who are QQing in their sex life.

learning to meet girls is a skill just like anything else. Take SC2 for instance, if all you do is cannon rush every time, you might get a few quick wins in, but ultimately you're going to be predictable and lonely and nobody will respect you, you'll end up kind of like Combat Ex. On the inverse, if all you ever do is play out the long term macro style, waiting for only the safest choices, you're going to miss out on a lot of potential wins, and other people who think and react more quickly will end up eating your lunch. You need to read the situation and determine how to react properly at all times.

Then there's the third type you see here, they don't even play the game. They might have slow hands or minds, they might get nervous really easy and lose games they should have won, instead of focusing and improving their skills they panic and give up. They post a bunch of QQ about how it's the games fault, and circumstances are against them, when in fact they just needed to focus and develop themselves.

Winning, and girls have one thing in common, they are drawn to confidence. So just remember, no matter how much you think your hand sucks, there is a guy fatter, dumber, nerdier, and more obnoxious than you who has a hot girlfriend because he believes in himself.


This metaphor is fantastic. I nominate this for best post of the year!


Seconded.
Vorenius
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Denmark1979 Posts
September 01 2011 06:46 GMT
#779
On September 01 2011 01:02 ZerglingSoup wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2011 00:55 hypnoxide wrote:
On September 01 2011 00:53 ZerglingSoup wrote:
On September 01 2011 00:44 hypnoxide wrote:
On September 01 2011 00:06 ZerglingSoup wrote:
26 year old virgin.

Will be until I am 27.

My girl and I have chosen to wait. We want the experience of sex to be connected to the bonds of our marriage, so that our commitment will be that much more meaningful and therefore more durable.

Never kissed a girl either, we're saving that too.

It isn't easy.. certainly the temptation is intense for both of us, but in the end it is making us a much stronger couple. I would recommend it to anyone.

I am glad I have saved myself for my her and she for me. Our relationship couldn't be any more solid.

And then you'll have sex and think to yourself "Wow, was that it?" I wonder how your relationship will be after that moment.


That's kinda the point. Sex isn't what our relationship is about. If it sucks, then oh well. It isn't what we are fixated on. We've taken the time to discover something in each other that is far more valuable than sex. All the wonderful things that make her special to me are set in stone. I'm sure sex will be awkward and weird for us at first, but I'm guessing we'll get used to it eventually. It's all part of experiencing life together.

But by deliberately abstaining from kissing and all sexual contact you are indirectly making a big deal about it whether you realise it or not. Your sex life, or lack thereof, is in a way, a bigger deal in your relationship than in a normal one.


Perhaps that is true, I can't attest to other relationships. My point is, that sex isn't foundational to our relationship. So whatever sex ends up being, it doesn't matter. Our relationship will be exactly what it was, regardless.

It just seems to me that, though as you say sex isn't the foundation of your relationship, not-sex is a bigger part of your relationship than sex is in most other. By taking such a strong stance on the matter you are automatically saying that it is indeed a huge deal, otherwise why abstain from it?

I'm not really convinced it's a good way to go about it, sexual compatability is as much part of a relationship (to most people at least) as anything. But I guess when religious people have been telling everyone how pre-maritial sex is bad for 1500 years some people are gonna listen to them.
UnknownReclaimer
Profile Joined March 2011
United States146 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-01 09:56:51
September 01 2011 09:53 GMT
#780
On August 31 2011 22:34 DisneylandSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2011 22:27 NeThZOR wrote:
On August 31 2011 22:13 ForlornHope wrote:
Most of Asian still a virgin when they hit 21-25 so nothing wrong with you man

Then why is Asian porn so abundant?


More importantly, why are there so many of them? :D

Show nested quote +
On August 31 2011 21:50 blAke139 wrote:
I don't think sex is overrated.
I'm sorry, but it's just one of the greatest things that exist opinion. Not only because it's needed to create new human life, but because it's just a shitload of fun opinion based on personal experience. Neither of the two assertions propped up actually imply that sex is 'one of the greatest things that exist'.

It's in our instincts to "want sex". If you don't want it, that means your instincts are broken (that's a joke, actually) because of society. We are meant to have sex, we were "designed" to reproduce (that's serious though).

We were not meant for anything. Every person is souveran and can decide for him or herself what he chooses to value and participate in. Moreover the argument that simply because our brains are hardwired for any kind of tendency we should engage in said activity is really poor. We are also hardwired to be hostile against people outside of our tribe. imagine everyone engaging in that.

But ALL of that does not mean that you're weird if you don't want sex yet making an assumption that at some point such a state will be reached. Even if it's sounds like it. Society made sex to something fun and cool (which it both is), if you don't want it just for that, that's totally fine. You don't even have to like it. But at some point in life, every single one of us will start desiring sex baseless claim. Not because we wanna be cool too, just because our instincts tell us. All of that also applies to women, actually.

Fortunately, we don't need a club (you know, cudgel, mace, whatever) anymore to force women into having sex contradicts your own 'tendency is hardwired = do it faggot' argument from before. Ironically, we can go to clubs to make it easier though.


If this was an essay, you would have got an F.


I believe he was referring my point of it being "hardwired" into us. That being said I feel the need to address that.

I'd like to point out that I never said that we should follow any hardwired tendency (though some are there obviously for good reasons). I just said that they were the reasons why it is such a big part of everyone's lives and that it was OP in society. I certainly never made an argument that because it's hardwired and that if you don't do it you're a faggot. If you want to debate something, then you should read what I posted, and comment on that. I'd be glad to talk to you about the merits of that. However if you are going to read what you want out of my post, try to make it look like I have no idea what I'm talking about, and make back handed remarks, then I will call you an idiot.

Looking forward to hearing from you blake :D
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