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On September 01 2011 04:42 meatybacon wrote:
I'm religious, 23, and still a virgin and proud of it. The media has created a hypersexual society, what once was private is now public and many people have a skewed and or perverted outlook on sexuality. I haven't even masturbated since I was 18. I went on a mission to teach religion and I taught abstinence before marraige by having two hershey's kisses in my pocket, one with a wrapper on and one without. And asked people which one they wanted, usually got the message across. So sex before marraige I believe is wrong, however after marraige it becomes a commandment. One of the leaders of my church has said that God gave us sex for more than just procreation, and that is to express deep emotions of love that with our partner we cannot express with words. Should sex be taboo? no. Does it bug me when I hear a guy talking about how many partners he's had? kind of. But still, I stick to my guns and I'm happy. Save yourself until you find a girl who you treat right and who treats you right then marry her and go at it like rabbits...
For me this is as bad as people sugesting having 1000 one night stand. I just hate when extremes try to pull in their views with no rational reason to do one way or the other.
There is more choice than only abstinence or whoring. There is a middle ground or rather the liberty of choice in this domain. In anyway @OP, don't be a sheep, sexuality is of the most private domain and therefore is your own choice to decide what you feel is best for both your body and your conscience.
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I think teaching proper protection at an early age is more productive than teaching abstinence.
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Sex before marriage used to a bad thing in the past, but now things have changed. i wouldn't really blame it on the media or porn, its just the way things have moved on. Its good, just don't be an idiot. i don't like the way now we look down on people ages of 13-17 having sex, i say its because puberty is kicking in really early for people now due to high nutrition which they didn't have in the past, but they should be concerned about their safety (STI's ect). usually the ones talking about sex all the time and calling all other people a loser if they don't are virgins themselves (I hate those people the most :@).
Just have it when your ready
Be safe
P.S. I do not support 13-17 having kids, that's just stupid
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On July 22 2011 11:49 Steel wrote:
Sex is very intimate.
This. Sex is a very intimate act. However, a lot of people also confuse the idea of sex and intimacy. Sex ought to be a result of of intimacy. Sex is not a means to intimacy. Trying to use sex as a vehicle for intimacy actually tends to result in the opposite occurring. The relationship becomes less intimate and more about passion or physicality.
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On September 01 2011 03:00 Noheroes wrote:
TL;DR Sex changes everything for better or worse and therefore IS a big deal and should be treated as one
False. This thread is full of generalizations and ignorance. Sex is what you make of it, that's it. Society does put this huge value on it, especially for men. It's like the more women you sleep with, the better a man you are, but this has nothing to do with the individual. Then you also get the gross double standard where women get criticized for sleeping with more people. Sex, other than for baby making, is really nothing except what you make of it.
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On September 01 2011 04:42 meatybacon wrote:
I'm religious, 23, and still a virgin and proud of it. The media has created a hypersexual society, what once was private is now public and many people have a skewed and or perverted outlook on sexuality. I haven't even masturbated since I was 18. I went on a mission to teach religion and I taught abstinence before marraige by having two hershey's kisses in my pocket, one with a wrapper on and one without. And asked people which one they wanted, usually got the message across. So sex before marraige I believe is wrong, however after marraige it becomes a commandment. One of the leaders of my church has said that God gave us sex for more than just procreation, and that is to express deep emotions of love that with our partner we cannot express with words. Should sex be taboo? no. Does it bug me when I hear a guy talking about how many partners he's had? kind of. But still, I stick to my guns and I'm happy. Save yourself until you find a girl who you treat right and who treats you right then marry her and go at it like rabbits...
What message, always wear a wrapper?
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lots of girls like virgins. virgins try harder i was told 
i only speak to the OP.. for some people sex is intimitate. candles and shit- for some it is just killing time. for some it is a sport. you check the clock and beat your record (cmon guys.. dont act like you never check the watch while she was not looking). for some its to live out their fantasies.. some want to give birth to a child.. and so on.. people fuck for different reasons. society has no opinion on sex. because they cant have one because people fuck for different reason.. makes sense right?
i think it is overrated when you never did it... it´s like smoking weed. when you never did it you think of it like it is heroin or crack.
anyway.. whatever the reason for you to fuck is find someone that shares the same reason and get it on. it´s at least as much exciting as playing a real close game of starcraft you dont want to loose.. so worth a try, right? and if you can´t find someone....... paying for it may sound disgusting for wemon but if you can live with it, dont blame yourself, and if there is really no other way.. whatever the reasons are.. go for it so you can live in peace.. this may get me banned but going to the club to find some cheap girl you can bring back home just so you are not a virgin anymore is the same as going to a professional. seriously... anyway thats probably not the way you want to go when reading your OP.
anywho dont ever take it too much serious. sex is fun. keep this in mind when the time comes. its fun and if you can find someone who you can have fun with its really really great. you just got lucky. if you dont found this person yet, maybe being a virgin is not all that bad for you. just DONT pressure yourself man.. if the time comes it comes. no matter how.
thats what i would tell to a close friend so please everyone get off my back. thank you very much 
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I think people are silly to try to impose their values of sex onto the population at large. Sex is an act that has different meanings and different consequences for people. Those who see sex as a highly personal and intimate act to be cherished and saved get those kind of results because it's what they expect. It's how they approach sex.
On the other hand, others enjoy sex as an act of recreation bereft of the severe emotions and intimate connections that others project onto it simply because they are not approaching the act of sex with any of that emotional investment.
My experience with sex lies somewhere in between. I've had sex that was very emotional and intimate and it was a great experience that deepened the bonds already present between me and my partner. I've also had sex that was fairly casual and there were no serious feelings of romance or intimacy. It was done because it was fun. That was an enjoyable experience as well for completely different reasons. The best analogy I could make would be watching a very serious film and being stimulated emotionally and intellectually by it versus watching a comedy like "Superbad" or "The 40 Year Old Virgin". Both are enjoyable experiences for different reasons and with varying degrees of emotional significance.
The practical consequences or benefits of sex are open for debate I think. But the emotional role of sex is something deeply personal and subjective that can't really be argued at all. I think, in large part, sex is what you make it out to be. I got very tired and bored with casual sex and I've been celibate for about 8 months now. I'm in a new relationship and the romantic feelings are stronger than I've ever experienced but unfortunately we won't be meeting in person until late December. I imagine the sex will be among the best I've had, but I don't know anything yet. But considering my emotional approach I think that will be the case.
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On September 01 2011 02:21 craz3d wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2011 01:44 positron. wrote:On August 31 2011 19:39 lyrlian wrote:On August 31 2011 17:21 positron. wrote:
I wish that 40/40/20 spit were true. The guys who place sex and party ahead of school are dumb. We all should be thankful that they are that dumb. There will be way less competition later on. "In this country, you gotta make the money first. Then when you get the money, you get the power. Then when you get the power, then you get the women." How do you make money without resorting to the way of Tony Montana? Be good at school.
You don't actually believe this, do you? Sounds like you're saying that going to a party and/or having sex makes you a bad student. What? For a lot of the times it is true. Nobody is stupid enough to make blanket statement like if you go to party and have sex you must be a bad student. Stop taking things too literally. Should getting the hottest women be the goal of your life? Probably not but I just laid out the plan for any guy who wants to get the hottest women they can. Sure what Tony Montana said might sound shallow but it is true. Who is banging Gisele Bunchen right now? Tom Brady. Here's something I heard a taxi driver say the other day as we drove past a 19 year old chick filling up a brand new Mercedes: "Women love their animals. Every woman needs a jaguar in her garage, a tiger in her bed, and a donkey to pay all her bills." With your shallow thinking, you should be careful not to become the ass in the above story .
You are a pretty dumb guy aren't you? You can only call the guy in the story a donkey when you assume that guy was looking for love in the girl, so that point is arguable. To take on a more cynical point of view: he could simply be paying for her. They are both getting what they want and there is nothing wrong with that.
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On the religion argument.
Abraham had sex with women that were not his wife. This is just one example of how the bible does not follow what christians think it says (i'm christian, so dont say antyhing about atheist/anti-religion). The only reason why virginity is celebrated in modern cultures is from the Virgin Mary and other such stories. In islam, i believe it started because only a virgin was considered pure in body, and was treated differently in the ancient marriage customs.
All modern taboos about sex relating to religion are lies. Only a few, like adultery, are actually from christianity. Look through marriage ceremony even, there is no reference to virginity in such ceremonies. All the examples of sex that are looked down upon or retaliated by god are adultery or incest.
So dont give people the religious and virgin shite, they mean something completely different.
On the rest of your post (or half of it really) i'll just respectfuly disagree. I believe instead of hypersexuality occuring now, that it was hyposexuality for hundreds of years and we are just returning to that. Refer to my earlier post for the reason hyposexuality actually occured.
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Pretty sure the real question is why would you give a shit what average dimwitted tools think about you and your sex life? As for "why is everything about sex" well have a look at this article I read a couple days ago it's from a chinese amateur powerlifter who's quite a nutjob in general but is very popular on the internet. Wouldn't say I agree with everything he brings up but it was an interesting read.
http://www.kratosguide.com/on-men-and-sex-frank-yang/
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frank yang is out of his fucking mind
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On September 01 2011 03:08 hypnoxide wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2011 03:00 rackdude wrote:On September 01 2011 01:46 hypnoxide wrote:On September 01 2011 01:19 ZerglingSoup wrote:On September 01 2011 01:04 chrissummers wrote:On September 01 2011 01:02 ZerglingSoup wrote:On September 01 2011 00:55 hypnoxide wrote:On September 01 2011 00:53 ZerglingSoup wrote:On September 01 2011 00:44 hypnoxide wrote:On September 01 2011 00:06 ZerglingSoup wrote:
26 year old virgin.
Will be until I am 27.
My girl and I have chosen to wait. We want the experience of sex to be connected to the bonds of our marriage, so that our commitment will be that much more meaningful and therefore more durable.
Never kissed a girl either, we're saving that too.
It isn't easy.. certainly the temptation is intense for both of us, but in the end it is making us a much stronger couple. I would recommend it to anyone.
I am glad I have saved myself for my her and she for me. Our relationship couldn't be any more solid. And then you'll have sex and think to yourself "Wow, was that it?" I wonder how your relationship will be after that moment. That's kinda the point. Sex isn't what our relationship is about. If it sucks, then oh well. It isn't what we are fixated on. We've taken the time to discover something in each other that is far more valuable than sex. All the wonderful things that make her special to me are set in stone. I'm sure sex will be awkward and weird for us at first, but I'm guessing we'll get used to it eventually. It's all part of experiencing life together. But by deliberately abstaining from kissing and all sexual contact you are indirectly making a big deal about it whether you realise it or not. Your sex life, or lack thereof, is in a way, a bigger deal in your relationship than in a normal one. Perhaps that is true, I can't attest to other relationships. My point is, that sex isn't foundational to our relationship. So whatever sex ends up being, it doesn't matter. Our relationship will be exactly what it was, regardless. That is something you don't know and you cannot know when you are a virgin. That is what you HOPE. Nonsense. I can know I have a strong relationship with her without having sex. This is my point. We've found lots of other things to value about each other. But you don't understand how a relationship DOES and WILL change after sex is added to the relationship. You say it's not fundamental to your relationship but it is. If you were to have sex tomorrow you'd find the relationship dynamics are drastically different. By your logic absolutely NOTHING would happen. Nothing positive, nothing negative. And I think people who have had sex can attest to you being wrong, sex can change everything. Only if you or your other puts an emphasis on it. If you both find it casual, then you can have sex one day and not know each other the next. It all depends on how much importance you place on it. The more important to you, the more life changing each change is. Sex changes relationships. If you're having sex with a random there's no relationship is there?
Sex only changes relationships that care too much about it.
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Sex in RL is like an epic-high-level-flyingmount in WoW:
You may be asumed to be a winner and flying faster always helps you flying faster ....
Yes - its overrated, but nice to have
a 1month-husband beeing in the relationship for 13 years now
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sex is a normal thing and like many others must be done with measure.
Please guys, tell me you would want to eventually marry a girl who had around 50 boyfriends before you and had sex with them.
Today's media is full of sex, but overdoing it is wrong. There are alot of violent movies, but after I watch them I don't go around killing every1.
Girls looking at movies saying it's cool and om to be fucked by alot of guys deserve their whore status if they do that and do not think that information through.
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On September 01 2011 07:18 SweetenemY wrote:
Sex in RL is like an epic-high-level-flyingmount in WoW:
You may be asumed to be a winner and flying faster always helps you flying faster ....
Yes - its overrated, but nice to have
a 1month-husband beeing in the relationship for 13 years now
Congrats on your marriage. :D
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Yes, congrats on marriage.
@mindrush I would marry her, if we both loved each other. Though i'd make sure she didn't have any STDs before having sex with her. Hell, i'd marry a prostitute if i loved her enough as long as she was careful.
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I made an account so I can post this.
I just turned 19 this summer and went to Europe for vacation. While over there I lost my virginity to some Romanian prostitute who was a sweet girl, 21-years-old and hot as hell. The sex felt great physically, but after it was over it made me feel sort of empty. So I guess what I'm trying to say is that sex is always nice because it feels great when your doing it, but its not special unless your doing it with someone you love or care about. So until that time comes, don't care so much how bout how many girls you do it with, but rather with who you do it with.
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Had sex from age 16-17 but I don't value it that much tbh. Sure, it's nice, but it's not like it's essential or whatever. So yeah sex is OP in society imo.
I got some friends who are 21-22 and never had sex, because they are shit with women, not because they choose so. That doesn't make me think less about them or anything.
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i'm still a virgin and i'm 27. i haven't had a girlfriend since i was about 14.
i don't have problems talking to people... i have many female friends around my age group, but i don't go the extra mile to get laid.
i even like flirting and groping (consensual) on a night out, but that's just my 'going out' face, in truth i don't particularly like the idea of a relationship and in my opinion one night stands are icky.
i think it's because i love myself too much. some people say "there's only so much wanking you can do", i disagree.
edit: by the way, i'm one of the least religious people on the planet. in my mind, i know with 100% certainty that there is no god, no heaven, no hell, no life after death etc.
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