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On September 01 2011 01:19 ZerglingSoup wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2011 01:04 chrissummers wrote:On September 01 2011 01:02 ZerglingSoup wrote:On September 01 2011 00:55 hypnoxide wrote:On September 01 2011 00:53 ZerglingSoup wrote:On September 01 2011 00:44 hypnoxide wrote:On September 01 2011 00:06 ZerglingSoup wrote:
26 year old virgin.
Will be until I am 27.
My girl and I have chosen to wait. We want the experience of sex to be connected to the bonds of our marriage, so that our commitment will be that much more meaningful and therefore more durable.
Never kissed a girl either, we're saving that too.
It isn't easy.. certainly the temptation is intense for both of us, but in the end it is making us a much stronger couple. I would recommend it to anyone.
I am glad I have saved myself for my her and she for me. Our relationship couldn't be any more solid. And then you'll have sex and think to yourself "Wow, was that it?" I wonder how your relationship will be after that moment. That's kinda the point. Sex isn't what our relationship is about. If it sucks, then oh well. It isn't what we are fixated on. We've taken the time to discover something in each other that is far more valuable than sex. All the wonderful things that make her special to me are set in stone. I'm sure sex will be awkward and weird for us at first, but I'm guessing we'll get used to it eventually. It's all part of experiencing life together. But by deliberately abstaining from kissing and all sexual contact you are indirectly making a big deal about it whether you realise it or not. Your sex life, or lack thereof, is in a way, a bigger deal in your relationship than in a normal one. Perhaps that is true, I can't attest to other relationships. My point is, that sex isn't foundational to our relationship. So whatever sex ends up being, it doesn't matter. Our relationship will be exactly what it was, regardless. That is something you don't know and you cannot know when you are a virgin. That is what you HOPE. Nonsense. I can know I have a strong relationship with her without having sex. This is my point. We've found lots of other things to value about each other.
But you don't understand how a relationship DOES and WILL change after sex is added to the relationship. You say it's not fundamental to your relationship but it is. If you were to have sex tomorrow you'd find the relationship dynamics are drastically different. By your logic absolutely NOTHING would happen. Nothing positive, nothing negative. And I think people who have had sex can attest to you being wrong, sex can change everything.
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To be honest, I was lucky when I lost my virginity. I was 16 and extremely drunk and I hooked up with some chick who I didn't even know. I didn't have sex again for 3 years (but I fucked around with some girls) until I met my ex who I was with for almost 5 years). So its all situational, some people are fortunate enough to be in the right spot at the right time. I make fun of my friends who are still virgins, but I don't really mean it. It's just one of those things guys say to other guys just to be an ass, but I really don't care if my friends are virgins or not. It's not my business. If people judge you based on virginity, you shouldn't be hanging out with them anyways.
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am i the only one who thinks this is not so much about the guy but about how its portrait in society?
its not saying that sex isnt enjoyable its not saying that you shouldn't sleep around or anything like that
some men have the desire to sleep whit as many woman as possible, others aren't focused on it,
im sure sex feels awesome but i just dont feel like actively trying to get some casual sex,
i wouldn't mind it, heck il probably enjoy it alot, but i got other things on my mind,
i agree desiring sex is normal (in most cases) and a reason to not have it is being awkward whit woman or 'ugly' but,,
some men have depressions that makes them unintrested in having sex
some men are asexual
some have other problems like being financially stable
some are more worried about there academic career
some people are religious and hold back until after married
some want the first time to be special,
some people have trauma's
some people don't think fondly of casual sex and haven't met the right one yet
some people just don't prioritize it like the rest
These problems are often ignored
there are tons of reasons to not have sex at age 20 or even 30 heck 97
the problem is that people nowadays just cant think anymore and blindly state and do what they heard on tv or think that there opinion is a fact,
people consider it a achievement to have sex at 14, im not sure if i agree whit that but that is my opinion and i also don't know all the circumstances so i cant judge him, so you wont see me branding him a man-whore
society does the exact opposite.
people try to pity those whitout and 'encourage' (peer pressure) them to do what is seen as normal in society
you shouldn't follow the mindless horde and think in black and white, every human is different.
we have already evolved past the primate stages, please do use your commen sense and make judgments based on individuals.
Ps: in my opinion life is the pursuit of happiness, yes happiness can equal sex, but so can alot of things like, achieving something in a particular field, charity, a happy family life and starcraft :D .
Pss some of those losers invented the computer some make tons of money in the stock exchange some are fucking prince of a royal family, are they really losers just because they didn't have one thing?
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On September 01 2011 00:53 ZerglingSoup wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2011 00:44 hypnoxide wrote:On September 01 2011 00:06 ZerglingSoup wrote:
26 year old virgin.
Will be until I am 27.
My girl and I have chosen to wait. We want the experience of sex to be connected to the bonds of our marriage, so that our commitment will be that much more meaningful and therefore more durable.
Never kissed a girl either, we're saving that too.
It isn't easy.. certainly the temptation is intense for both of us, but in the end it is making us a much stronger couple. I would recommend it to anyone.
I am glad I have saved myself for my her and she for me. Our relationship couldn't be any more solid. And then you'll have sex and think to yourself "Wow, was that it?" I wonder how your relationship will be after that moment. That's kinda the point. Sex isn't what our relationship is about. If it sucks, then oh well. It isn't what we are fixated on. We've taken the time to discover something in each other that is far more valuable than sex. All the wonderful things that make her special to me are set in stone. I'm sure sex will be awkward and weird for us at first, but I'm guessing we'll get used to it eventually. It's all part of experiencing life together.
Haven't kissed? Hahahah your trolling went a bit overboard there xD
Did you hold hands yet? Or maybe touched eachother's arm?
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Op is right, its OP as you grow up. However in retrospect, when you first had sex dont matter shit. And whether you had 1 or 10 girls before your wife doesnt matter shit and have no effect on the happiness of your life. Its op in the moment and up from ahead.
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On September 01 2011 01:44 positron. wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2011 19:39 lyrlian wrote:On August 31 2011 17:21 positron. wrote:
I wish that 40/40/20 spit were true. The guys who place sex and party ahead of school are dumb. We all should be thankful that they are that dumb. There will be way less competition later on. "In this country, you gotta make the money first. Then when you get the money, you get the power. Then when you get the power, then you get the women." How do you make money without resorting to the way of Tony Montana? Be good at school.
You don't actually believe this, do you? Sounds like you're saying that going to a party and/or having sex makes you a bad student. What? For a lot of the times it is true. Nobody is stupid enough to make blanket statement like if you go to party and have sex you must be a bad student. Stop taking things too literally. Should getting the hottest women be the goal of your life? Probably not but I just laid out the plan for any guy who wants to get the hottest women they can. Sure what Tony Montana said might sound shallow but it is true. Who is banging Gisele Bunchen right now? Tom Brady.
Here's something I heard a taxi driver say the other day as we drove past a 19 year old chick filling up a brand new Mercedes: "Women love their animals. Every woman needs a jaguar in her garage, a tiger in her bed, and a donkey to pay all her bills."
With your shallow thinking, you should be careful not to become the ass in the above story  .
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On September 01 2011 01:46 hypnoxide wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2011 01:19 ZerglingSoup wrote:On September 01 2011 01:04 chrissummers wrote:On September 01 2011 01:02 ZerglingSoup wrote:On September 01 2011 00:55 hypnoxide wrote:On September 01 2011 00:53 ZerglingSoup wrote:On September 01 2011 00:44 hypnoxide wrote:On September 01 2011 00:06 ZerglingSoup wrote:
26 year old virgin.
Will be until I am 27.
My girl and I have chosen to wait. We want the experience of sex to be connected to the bonds of our marriage, so that our commitment will be that much more meaningful and therefore more durable.
Never kissed a girl either, we're saving that too.
It isn't easy.. certainly the temptation is intense for both of us, but in the end it is making us a much stronger couple. I would recommend it to anyone.
I am glad I have saved myself for my her and she for me. Our relationship couldn't be any more solid. And then you'll have sex and think to yourself "Wow, was that it?" I wonder how your relationship will be after that moment. That's kinda the point. Sex isn't what our relationship is about. If it sucks, then oh well. It isn't what we are fixated on. We've taken the time to discover something in each other that is far more valuable than sex. All the wonderful things that make her special to me are set in stone. I'm sure sex will be awkward and weird for us at first, but I'm guessing we'll get used to it eventually. It's all part of experiencing life together. But by deliberately abstaining from kissing and all sexual contact you are indirectly making a big deal about it whether you realise it or not. Your sex life, or lack thereof, is in a way, a bigger deal in your relationship than in a normal one. Perhaps that is true, I can't attest to other relationships. My point is, that sex isn't foundational to our relationship. So whatever sex ends up being, it doesn't matter. Our relationship will be exactly what it was, regardless. That is something you don't know and you cannot know when you are a virgin. That is what you HOPE. Nonsense. I can know I have a strong relationship with her without having sex. This is my point. We've found lots of other things to value about each other. But you don't understand how a relationship DOES and WILL change after sex is added to the relationship. You say it's not fundamental to your relationship but it is. If you were to have sex tomorrow you'd find the relationship dynamics are drastically different. By your logic absolutely NOTHING would happen. Nothing positive, nothing negative. And I think people who have had sex can attest to you being wrong, sex can change everything.
I'm pretty sure if you have a strong, committed and intimate emotionally relationship, it will influence the sex more than it will be influenced by the sex. In fact, I can already tell. I think your perspective lends somewhat to the point the OP was trying to make. It's given way too much importance in our primitive-minded culture. There's more to life, and way more to my relationship with my girl.
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On September 01 2011 02:14 lyrlian wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2011 00:53 ZerglingSoup wrote:On September 01 2011 00:44 hypnoxide wrote:On September 01 2011 00:06 ZerglingSoup wrote:
26 year old virgin.
Will be until I am 27.
My girl and I have chosen to wait. We want the experience of sex to be connected to the bonds of our marriage, so that our commitment will be that much more meaningful and therefore more durable.
Never kissed a girl either, we're saving that too.
It isn't easy.. certainly the temptation is intense for both of us, but in the end it is making us a much stronger couple. I would recommend it to anyone.
I am glad I have saved myself for my her and she for me. Our relationship couldn't be any more solid. And then you'll have sex and think to yourself "Wow, was that it?" I wonder how your relationship will be after that moment. That's kinda the point. Sex isn't what our relationship is about. If it sucks, then oh well. It isn't what we are fixated on. We've taken the time to discover something in each other that is far more valuable than sex. All the wonderful things that make her special to me are set in stone. I'm sure sex will be awkward and weird for us at first, but I'm guessing we'll get used to it eventually. It's all part of experiencing life together. Haven't kissed? Hahahah your trolling went a bit overboard there xD Did you hold hands yet? Or maybe touched eachother's arm?
Yep, we hold hands  And we cuddle alot too.
I know it's unconventional. We call it cutting-edge. Whatever it is, it is working great for us.
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On September 01 2011 02:22 ZerglingSoup wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2011 01:46 hypnoxide wrote:On September 01 2011 01:19 ZerglingSoup wrote:On September 01 2011 01:04 chrissummers wrote:On September 01 2011 01:02 ZerglingSoup wrote:On September 01 2011 00:55 hypnoxide wrote:On September 01 2011 00:53 ZerglingSoup wrote:On September 01 2011 00:44 hypnoxide wrote:On September 01 2011 00:06 ZerglingSoup wrote:
26 year old virgin.
Will be until I am 27.
My girl and I have chosen to wait. We want the experience of sex to be connected to the bonds of our marriage, so that our commitment will be that much more meaningful and therefore more durable.
Never kissed a girl either, we're saving that too.
It isn't easy.. certainly the temptation is intense for both of us, but in the end it is making us a much stronger couple. I would recommend it to anyone.
I am glad I have saved myself for my her and she for me. Our relationship couldn't be any more solid. And then you'll have sex and think to yourself "Wow, was that it?" I wonder how your relationship will be after that moment. That's kinda the point. Sex isn't what our relationship is about. If it sucks, then oh well. It isn't what we are fixated on. We've taken the time to discover something in each other that is far more valuable than sex. All the wonderful things that make her special to me are set in stone. I'm sure sex will be awkward and weird for us at first, but I'm guessing we'll get used to it eventually. It's all part of experiencing life together. But by deliberately abstaining from kissing and all sexual contact you are indirectly making a big deal about it whether you realise it or not. Your sex life, or lack thereof, is in a way, a bigger deal in your relationship than in a normal one. Perhaps that is true, I can't attest to other relationships. My point is, that sex isn't foundational to our relationship. So whatever sex ends up being, it doesn't matter. Our relationship will be exactly what it was, regardless. That is something you don't know and you cannot know when you are a virgin. That is what you HOPE. Nonsense. I can know I have a strong relationship with her without having sex. This is my point. We've found lots of other things to value about each other. But you don't understand how a relationship DOES and WILL change after sex is added to the relationship. You say it's not fundamental to your relationship but it is. If you were to have sex tomorrow you'd find the relationship dynamics are drastically different. By your logic absolutely NOTHING would happen. Nothing positive, nothing negative. And I think people who have had sex can attest to you being wrong, sex can change everything. I'm pretty sure if you have a strong, committed and intimate emotionally relationship, it will influence the sex more than it will be influenced by the sex. In fact, I can already tell. I think your perspective lends somewhat to the point the OP was trying to make. It's given way too much importance in our primitive-minded culture. There's more to life, and way more to my relationship with my girl.
Just keep in mind; you're disagreeing with people who have experience you don't have. It's like a teen girl telling her parents "BUT MUUUUUUUUUUUUUUM HE REALLY LOVES ME! HE'S DIFFERENT TO ALL THE OTHER BOYS! WHAT WOULD YOU KNOW ANYWAY!?"
That's you bro. You're that teen girl trying to preach to others who are wiser. We've been there, done that. You haven't. Learn from it.
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On September 01 2011 02:32 hypnoxide wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2011 02:22 ZerglingSoup wrote:On September 01 2011 01:46 hypnoxide wrote:On September 01 2011 01:19 ZerglingSoup wrote:On September 01 2011 01:04 chrissummers wrote:On September 01 2011 01:02 ZerglingSoup wrote:On September 01 2011 00:55 hypnoxide wrote:On September 01 2011 00:53 ZerglingSoup wrote:On September 01 2011 00:44 hypnoxide wrote:On September 01 2011 00:06 ZerglingSoup wrote:
26 year old virgin.
Will be until I am 27.
My girl and I have chosen to wait. We want the experience of sex to be connected to the bonds of our marriage, so that our commitment will be that much more meaningful and therefore more durable.
Never kissed a girl either, we're saving that too.
It isn't easy.. certainly the temptation is intense for both of us, but in the end it is making us a much stronger couple. I would recommend it to anyone.
I am glad I have saved myself for my her and she for me. Our relationship couldn't be any more solid. And then you'll have sex and think to yourself "Wow, was that it?" I wonder how your relationship will be after that moment. That's kinda the point. Sex isn't what our relationship is about. If it sucks, then oh well. It isn't what we are fixated on. We've taken the time to discover something in each other that is far more valuable than sex. All the wonderful things that make her special to me are set in stone. I'm sure sex will be awkward and weird for us at first, but I'm guessing we'll get used to it eventually. It's all part of experiencing life together. But by deliberately abstaining from kissing and all sexual contact you are indirectly making a big deal about it whether you realise it or not. Your sex life, or lack thereof, is in a way, a bigger deal in your relationship than in a normal one. Perhaps that is true, I can't attest to other relationships. My point is, that sex isn't foundational to our relationship. So whatever sex ends up being, it doesn't matter. Our relationship will be exactly what it was, regardless. That is something you don't know and you cannot know when you are a virgin. That is what you HOPE. Nonsense. I can know I have a strong relationship with her without having sex. This is my point. We've found lots of other things to value about each other. But you don't understand how a relationship DOES and WILL change after sex is added to the relationship. You say it's not fundamental to your relationship but it is. If you were to have sex tomorrow you'd find the relationship dynamics are drastically different. By your logic absolutely NOTHING would happen. Nothing positive, nothing negative. And I think people who have had sex can attest to you being wrong, sex can change everything. I'm pretty sure if you have a strong, committed and intimate emotionally relationship, it will influence the sex more than it will be influenced by the sex. In fact, I can already tell. I think your perspective lends somewhat to the point the OP was trying to make. It's given way too much importance in our primitive-minded culture. There's more to life, and way more to my relationship with my girl. Just keep in mind; you're disagreeing with people who have experience you don't have. It's like a teen girl telling her parents "BUT MUUUUUUUUUUUUUUM HE REALLY LOVES ME! HE'S DIFFERENT TO ALL THE OTHER BOYS! WHAT WOULD YOU KNOW ANYWAY!?" That's you bro. You're that teen girl trying to preach to others who are wiser. We've been there, done that. You haven't. Learn from it.
Bingo.
Sex has only ever strengthened relationships ive been in (current being 8 years now) I'd feel awful denying my partner a lifetime of sexual fulfilment.. quite cruel
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On September 01 2011 02:36 Scrimpton wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2011 02:32 hypnoxide wrote:On September 01 2011 02:22 ZerglingSoup wrote:On September 01 2011 01:46 hypnoxide wrote:On September 01 2011 01:19 ZerglingSoup wrote:On September 01 2011 01:04 chrissummers wrote:On September 01 2011 01:02 ZerglingSoup wrote:On September 01 2011 00:55 hypnoxide wrote:On September 01 2011 00:53 ZerglingSoup wrote:On September 01 2011 00:44 hypnoxide wrote:
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And then you'll have sex and think to yourself "Wow, was that it?" I wonder how your relationship will be after that moment. That's kinda the point. Sex isn't what our relationship is about. If it sucks, then oh well. It isn't what we are fixated on. We've taken the time to discover something in each other that is far more valuable than sex. All the wonderful things that make her special to me are set in stone. I'm sure sex will be awkward and weird for us at first, but I'm guessing we'll get used to it eventually. It's all part of experiencing life together. But by deliberately abstaining from kissing and all sexual contact you are indirectly making a big deal about it whether you realise it or not. Your sex life, or lack thereof, is in a way, a bigger deal in your relationship than in a normal one. Perhaps that is true, I can't attest to other relationships. My point is, that sex isn't foundational to our relationship. So whatever sex ends up being, it doesn't matter. Our relationship will be exactly what it was, regardless. That is something you don't know and you cannot know when you are a virgin. That is what you HOPE. Nonsense. I can know I have a strong relationship with her without having sex. This is my point. We've found lots of other things to value about each other. But you don't understand how a relationship DOES and WILL change after sex is added to the relationship. You say it's not fundamental to your relationship but it is. If you were to have sex tomorrow you'd find the relationship dynamics are drastically different. By your logic absolutely NOTHING would happen. Nothing positive, nothing negative. And I think people who have had sex can attest to you being wrong, sex can change everything. I'm pretty sure if you have a strong, committed and intimate emotionally relationship, it will influence the sex more than it will be influenced by the sex. In fact, I can already tell. I think your perspective lends somewhat to the point the OP was trying to make. It's given way too much importance in our primitive-minded culture. There's more to life, and way more to my relationship with my girl. Just keep in mind; you're disagreeing with people who have experience you don't have. It's like a teen girl telling her parents "BUT MUUUUUUUUUUUUUUM HE REALLY LOVES ME! HE'S DIFFERENT TO ALL THE OTHER BOYS! WHAT WOULD YOU KNOW ANYWAY!?" That's you bro. You're that teen girl trying to preach to others who are wiser. We've been there, done that. You haven't. Learn from it. Bingo. Sex has only ever strengthened relationships ive been in (current being 8 years now) I'd feel awful denying my partner a lifetime of sexual fulfilment.. quite cruel
This. Denying and inhibiting natural sexual exploration is only going to end up with one or both of you thinking "What if?"
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On September 01 2011 02:32 hypnoxide wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2011 02:22 ZerglingSoup wrote:On September 01 2011 01:46 hypnoxide wrote:On September 01 2011 01:19 ZerglingSoup wrote:On September 01 2011 01:04 chrissummers wrote:On September 01 2011 01:02 ZerglingSoup wrote:On September 01 2011 00:55 hypnoxide wrote:On September 01 2011 00:53 ZerglingSoup wrote:On September 01 2011 00:44 hypnoxide wrote:On September 01 2011 00:06 ZerglingSoup wrote:
26 year old virgin.
Will be until I am 27.
My girl and I have chosen to wait. We want the experience of sex to be connected to the bonds of our marriage, so that our commitment will be that much more meaningful and therefore more durable.
Never kissed a girl either, we're saving that too.
It isn't easy.. certainly the temptation is intense for both of us, but in the end it is making us a much stronger couple. I would recommend it to anyone.
I am glad I have saved myself for my her and she for me. Our relationship couldn't be any more solid. And then you'll have sex and think to yourself "Wow, was that it?" I wonder how your relationship will be after that moment. That's kinda the point. Sex isn't what our relationship is about. If it sucks, then oh well. It isn't what we are fixated on. We've taken the time to discover something in each other that is far more valuable than sex. All the wonderful things that make her special to me are set in stone. I'm sure sex will be awkward and weird for us at first, but I'm guessing we'll get used to it eventually. It's all part of experiencing life together. But by deliberately abstaining from kissing and all sexual contact you are indirectly making a big deal about it whether you realise it or not. Your sex life, or lack thereof, is in a way, a bigger deal in your relationship than in a normal one. Perhaps that is true, I can't attest to other relationships. My point is, that sex isn't foundational to our relationship. So whatever sex ends up being, it doesn't matter. Our relationship will be exactly what it was, regardless. That is something you don't know and you cannot know when you are a virgin. That is what you HOPE. Nonsense. I can know I have a strong relationship with her without having sex. This is my point. We've found lots of other things to value about each other. But you don't understand how a relationship DOES and WILL change after sex is added to the relationship. You say it's not fundamental to your relationship but it is. If you were to have sex tomorrow you'd find the relationship dynamics are drastically different. By your logic absolutely NOTHING would happen. Nothing positive, nothing negative. And I think people who have had sex can attest to you being wrong, sex can change everything. I'm pretty sure if you have a strong, committed and intimate emotionally relationship, it will influence the sex more than it will be influenced by the sex. In fact, I can already tell. I think your perspective lends somewhat to the point the OP was trying to make. It's given way too much importance in our primitive-minded culture. There's more to life, and way more to my relationship with my girl. Just keep in mind; you're disagreeing with people who have experience you don't have. It's like a teen girl telling her parents "BUT MUUUUUUUUUUUUUUM HE REALLY LOVES ME! HE'S DIFFERENT TO ALL THE OTHER BOYS! WHAT WOULD YOU KNOW ANYWAY!?" That's you bro. You're that teen girl trying to preach to others who are wiser. We've been there, done that. You haven't. Learn from it.
How many people here have tried it my way? I've got an experience that some of you don't have. And I have perspective from that experience that some of you can't understand either. Comparing me to a teenage girl doesn't negate that perspective.
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On September 01 2011 02:39 ZerglingSoup wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2011 02:32 hypnoxide wrote:On September 01 2011 02:22 ZerglingSoup wrote:On September 01 2011 01:46 hypnoxide wrote:On September 01 2011 01:19 ZerglingSoup wrote:On September 01 2011 01:04 chrissummers wrote:On September 01 2011 01:02 ZerglingSoup wrote:On September 01 2011 00:55 hypnoxide wrote:On September 01 2011 00:53 ZerglingSoup wrote:On September 01 2011 00:44 hypnoxide wrote:
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And then you'll have sex and think to yourself "Wow, was that it?" I wonder how your relationship will be after that moment. That's kinda the point. Sex isn't what our relationship is about. If it sucks, then oh well. It isn't what we are fixated on. We've taken the time to discover something in each other that is far more valuable than sex. All the wonderful things that make her special to me are set in stone. I'm sure sex will be awkward and weird for us at first, but I'm guessing we'll get used to it eventually. It's all part of experiencing life together. But by deliberately abstaining from kissing and all sexual contact you are indirectly making a big deal about it whether you realise it or not. Your sex life, or lack thereof, is in a way, a bigger deal in your relationship than in a normal one. Perhaps that is true, I can't attest to other relationships. My point is, that sex isn't foundational to our relationship. So whatever sex ends up being, it doesn't matter. Our relationship will be exactly what it was, regardless. That is something you don't know and you cannot know when you are a virgin. That is what you HOPE. Nonsense. I can know I have a strong relationship with her without having sex. This is my point. We've found lots of other things to value about each other. But you don't understand how a relationship DOES and WILL change after sex is added to the relationship. You say it's not fundamental to your relationship but it is. If you were to have sex tomorrow you'd find the relationship dynamics are drastically different. By your logic absolutely NOTHING would happen. Nothing positive, nothing negative. And I think people who have had sex can attest to you being wrong, sex can change everything. I'm pretty sure if you have a strong, committed and intimate emotionally relationship, it will influence the sex more than it will be influenced by the sex. In fact, I can already tell. I think your perspective lends somewhat to the point the OP was trying to make. It's given way too much importance in our primitive-minded culture. There's more to life, and way more to my relationship with my girl. Just keep in mind; you're disagreeing with people who have experience you don't have. It's like a teen girl telling her parents "BUT MUUUUUUUUUUUUUUM HE REALLY LOVES ME! HE'S DIFFERENT TO ALL THE OTHER BOYS! WHAT WOULD YOU KNOW ANYWAY!?" That's you bro. You're that teen girl trying to preach to others who are wiser. We've been there, done that. You haven't. Learn from it. How many people here have tried it my way? I've got an experience that some of you don't have. And I have perspective from that experience that some of you can't understand either. Comparing me to a teenage girl doesn't negate that perspective.
I was a virgin once
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On September 01 2011 02:22 ZerglingSoup wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2011 01:46 hypnoxide wrote:On September 01 2011 01:19 ZerglingSoup wrote:On September 01 2011 01:04 chrissummers wrote:On September 01 2011 01:02 ZerglingSoup wrote:On September 01 2011 00:55 hypnoxide wrote:On September 01 2011 00:53 ZerglingSoup wrote:On September 01 2011 00:44 hypnoxide wrote:On September 01 2011 00:06 ZerglingSoup wrote:
26 year old virgin.
Will be until I am 27.
My girl and I have chosen to wait. We want the experience of sex to be connected to the bonds of our marriage, so that our commitment will be that much more meaningful and therefore more durable.
Never kissed a girl either, we're saving that too.
It isn't easy.. certainly the temptation is intense for both of us, but in the end it is making us a much stronger couple. I would recommend it to anyone.
I am glad I have saved myself for my her and she for me. Our relationship couldn't be any more solid. And then you'll have sex and think to yourself "Wow, was that it?" I wonder how your relationship will be after that moment. That's kinda the point. Sex isn't what our relationship is about. If it sucks, then oh well. It isn't what we are fixated on. We've taken the time to discover something in each other that is far more valuable than sex. All the wonderful things that make her special to me are set in stone. I'm sure sex will be awkward and weird for us at first, but I'm guessing we'll get used to it eventually. It's all part of experiencing life together. But by deliberately abstaining from kissing and all sexual contact you are indirectly making a big deal about it whether you realise it or not. Your sex life, or lack thereof, is in a way, a bigger deal in your relationship than in a normal one. Perhaps that is true, I can't attest to other relationships. My point is, that sex isn't foundational to our relationship. So whatever sex ends up being, it doesn't matter. Our relationship will be exactly what it was, regardless. That is something you don't know and you cannot know when you are a virgin. That is what you HOPE. Nonsense. I can know I have a strong relationship with her without having sex. This is my point. We've found lots of other things to value about each other. But you don't understand how a relationship DOES and WILL change after sex is added to the relationship. You say it's not fundamental to your relationship but it is. If you were to have sex tomorrow you'd find the relationship dynamics are drastically different. By your logic absolutely NOTHING would happen. Nothing positive, nothing negative. And I think people who have had sex can attest to you being wrong, sex can change everything. I'm pretty sure if you have a strong, committed and intimate emotionally relationship, it will influence the sex more than it will be influenced by the sex. In fact, I can already tell. I think your perspective lends somewhat to the point the OP was trying to make. It's given way too much importance in our primitive-minded culture. There's more to life, and way more to my relationship with my girl.
What you say could be true if and only if your gf is also a virgin and as inexperienced as you. Otherwise your gf is prolly asking herself and all her friends why you haven't fucked her yet. Remember that this primitive minded culture you speak of was invented by humans, a group which you and her are part of, unless you're writing from Mars in which case, disregard what I said .
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On September 01 2011 02:36 Scrimpton wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2011 02:32 hypnoxide wrote:On September 01 2011 02:22 ZerglingSoup wrote:On September 01 2011 01:46 hypnoxide wrote:On September 01 2011 01:19 ZerglingSoup wrote:On September 01 2011 01:04 chrissummers wrote:On September 01 2011 01:02 ZerglingSoup wrote:On September 01 2011 00:55 hypnoxide wrote:On September 01 2011 00:53 ZerglingSoup wrote:On September 01 2011 00:44 hypnoxide wrote:
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And then you'll have sex and think to yourself "Wow, was that it?" I wonder how your relationship will be after that moment. That's kinda the point. Sex isn't what our relationship is about. If it sucks, then oh well. It isn't what we are fixated on. We've taken the time to discover something in each other that is far more valuable than sex. All the wonderful things that make her special to me are set in stone. I'm sure sex will be awkward and weird for us at first, but I'm guessing we'll get used to it eventually. It's all part of experiencing life together. But by deliberately abstaining from kissing and all sexual contact you are indirectly making a big deal about it whether you realise it or not. Your sex life, or lack thereof, is in a way, a bigger deal in your relationship than in a normal one. Perhaps that is true, I can't attest to other relationships. My point is, that sex isn't foundational to our relationship. So whatever sex ends up being, it doesn't matter. Our relationship will be exactly what it was, regardless. That is something you don't know and you cannot know when you are a virgin. That is what you HOPE. Nonsense. I can know I have a strong relationship with her without having sex. This is my point. We've found lots of other things to value about each other. But you don't understand how a relationship DOES and WILL change after sex is added to the relationship. You say it's not fundamental to your relationship but it is. If you were to have sex tomorrow you'd find the relationship dynamics are drastically different. By your logic absolutely NOTHING would happen. Nothing positive, nothing negative. And I think people who have had sex can attest to you being wrong, sex can change everything. I'm pretty sure if you have a strong, committed and intimate emotionally relationship, it will influence the sex more than it will be influenced by the sex. In fact, I can already tell. I think your perspective lends somewhat to the point the OP was trying to make. It's given way too much importance in our primitive-minded culture. There's more to life, and way more to my relationship with my girl. Just keep in mind; you're disagreeing with people who have experience you don't have. It's like a teen girl telling her parents "BUT MUUUUUUUUUUUUUUM HE REALLY LOVES ME! HE'S DIFFERENT TO ALL THE OTHER BOYS! WHAT WOULD YOU KNOW ANYWAY!?" That's you bro. You're that teen girl trying to preach to others who are wiser. We've been there, done that. You haven't. Learn from it. Bingo. Sex has only ever strengthened relationships ive been in (current being 8 years now) I'd feel awful denying my partner a lifetime of sexual fulfilment.. quite cruel
It's not a lifetime, it's a few more months until we get married. And I'm not denying her anything. It's our decision and we are both pleased with the results.
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On September 01 2011 02:39 ComaDose wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2011 02:39 ZerglingSoup wrote:On September 01 2011 02:32 hypnoxide wrote:On September 01 2011 02:22 ZerglingSoup wrote:On September 01 2011 01:46 hypnoxide wrote:On September 01 2011 01:19 ZerglingSoup wrote:On September 01 2011 01:04 chrissummers wrote:On September 01 2011 01:02 ZerglingSoup wrote:On September 01 2011 00:55 hypnoxide wrote:On September 01 2011 00:53 ZerglingSoup wrote:
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That's kinda the point. Sex isn't what our relationship is about. If it sucks, then oh well. It isn't what we are fixated on. We've taken the time to discover something in each other that is far more valuable than sex. All the wonderful things that make her special to me are set in stone. I'm sure sex will be awkward and weird for us at first, but I'm guessing we'll get used to it eventually. It's all part of experiencing life together. But by deliberately abstaining from kissing and all sexual contact you are indirectly making a big deal about it whether you realise it or not. Your sex life, or lack thereof, is in a way, a bigger deal in your relationship than in a normal one. Perhaps that is true, I can't attest to other relationships. My point is, that sex isn't foundational to our relationship. So whatever sex ends up being, it doesn't matter. Our relationship will be exactly what it was, regardless. That is something you don't know and you cannot know when you are a virgin. That is what you HOPE. Nonsense. I can know I have a strong relationship with her without having sex. This is my point. We've found lots of other things to value about each other. But you don't understand how a relationship DOES and WILL change after sex is added to the relationship. You say it's not fundamental to your relationship but it is. If you were to have sex tomorrow you'd find the relationship dynamics are drastically different. By your logic absolutely NOTHING would happen. Nothing positive, nothing negative. And I think people who have had sex can attest to you being wrong, sex can change everything. I'm pretty sure if you have a strong, committed and intimate emotionally relationship, it will influence the sex more than it will be influenced by the sex. In fact, I can already tell. I think your perspective lends somewhat to the point the OP was trying to make. It's given way too much importance in our primitive-minded culture. There's more to life, and way more to my relationship with my girl. Just keep in mind; you're disagreeing with people who have experience you don't have. It's like a teen girl telling her parents "BUT MUUUUUUUUUUUUUUM HE REALLY LOVES ME! HE'S DIFFERENT TO ALL THE OTHER BOYS! WHAT WOULD YOU KNOW ANYWAY!?" That's you bro. You're that teen girl trying to preach to others who are wiser. We've been there, done that. You haven't. Learn from it. How many people here have tried it my way? I've got an experience that some of you don't have. And I have perspective from that experience that some of you can't understand either. Comparing me to a teenage girl doesn't negate that perspective. I was a virgin once
No way?! Me too! We have so much in common. Life partners <3
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It's totally overrated. Don't write it off, but if you choose to live a celibate lifestyle, that's just as much of a choice as living a promiscuous one. The only reason "virgin" is tossed about like it's a negative is because pre-teens and teenagers are highly egocentric and susceptible to group think. It turns into a scarlet V and the retards use it as some stupid hierarchical checklist of social status.
You're not a religious person, but most people who go to church are highly skeptical anyways. I'd recommend surrounding yourself with people who make it their prerogative to display an understanding of morality.
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On September 01 2011 02:40 craz3d wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2011 02:22 ZerglingSoup wrote:On September 01 2011 01:46 hypnoxide wrote:On September 01 2011 01:19 ZerglingSoup wrote:On September 01 2011 01:04 chrissummers wrote:On September 01 2011 01:02 ZerglingSoup wrote:On September 01 2011 00:55 hypnoxide wrote:On September 01 2011 00:53 ZerglingSoup wrote:On September 01 2011 00:44 hypnoxide wrote:On September 01 2011 00:06 ZerglingSoup wrote:
26 year old virgin.
Will be until I am 27.
My girl and I have chosen to wait. We want the experience of sex to be connected to the bonds of our marriage, so that our commitment will be that much more meaningful and therefore more durable.
Never kissed a girl either, we're saving that too.
It isn't easy.. certainly the temptation is intense for both of us, but in the end it is making us a much stronger couple. I would recommend it to anyone.
I am glad I have saved myself for my her and she for me. Our relationship couldn't be any more solid. And then you'll have sex and think to yourself "Wow, was that it?" I wonder how your relationship will be after that moment. That's kinda the point. Sex isn't what our relationship is about. If it sucks, then oh well. It isn't what we are fixated on. We've taken the time to discover something in each other that is far more valuable than sex. All the wonderful things that make her special to me are set in stone. I'm sure sex will be awkward and weird for us at first, but I'm guessing we'll get used to it eventually. It's all part of experiencing life together. But by deliberately abstaining from kissing and all sexual contact you are indirectly making a big deal about it whether you realise it or not. Your sex life, or lack thereof, is in a way, a bigger deal in your relationship than in a normal one. Perhaps that is true, I can't attest to other relationships. My point is, that sex isn't foundational to our relationship. So whatever sex ends up being, it doesn't matter. Our relationship will be exactly what it was, regardless. That is something you don't know and you cannot know when you are a virgin. That is what you HOPE. Nonsense. I can know I have a strong relationship with her without having sex. This is my point. We've found lots of other things to value about each other. But you don't understand how a relationship DOES and WILL change after sex is added to the relationship. You say it's not fundamental to your relationship but it is. If you were to have sex tomorrow you'd find the relationship dynamics are drastically different. By your logic absolutely NOTHING would happen. Nothing positive, nothing negative. And I think people who have had sex can attest to you being wrong, sex can change everything. I'm pretty sure if you have a strong, committed and intimate emotionally relationship, it will influence the sex more than it will be influenced by the sex. In fact, I can already tell. I think your perspective lends somewhat to the point the OP was trying to make. It's given way too much importance in our primitive-minded culture. There's more to life, and way more to my relationship with my girl. What you say could be true if and only if your gf is also a virgin and as inexperienced as you. Otherwise your gf is prolly asking herself and all her friends why you haven't fucked her yet. Remember that this primitive minded culture you speak of was invented by humans, a group which you and her are part of, unless you're writing from Mars in which case, disregard what I said .
She is also a virgin. She tells me about what she talks about with her friends, family, sister, etc. You guys have no idea what you are talking about because you don't know us and you haven't seen how many people tell us we are so good together and so perfect for each other.
This isn't me saying your way is any kind of wrong. I'm just lending my perspective to say it can be done another way, with great results.
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My perspective: sex is awesome.
However, if you choose to wait, that's your choice, there's way more to relationships than just sex. It's just an added bonus =p
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