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Geisterkarle
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Germany3257 Posts
August 31 2011 14:23 GMT
#661
Sex sells! We are constantly reminded of this subject, so maybe because of that we think quite often about it. (pun intended)
I had sex for the first time when I was 24, so you have 3 years, before I call you looser
It had nothing to do with religion or something. I was attending some parties and I had/have a quite good social life and circle. But it was quite late before I even looked at girls "another way".
And then it was quite troublesome to find someone. I can't deny it: There are some (men) that know how to get a girl and then there are people like me! I have friends, they could be at a random place with no one knowing them and at the end of the evening they could walk away with a woman in their arms, if they want to. For me, getting a girlfriend is more like a hurdle race.
On the other side, my relationships normally last quite long! In between... well!

But it all doesn't matter. Nobody of my friends gives a shit about, who has sex or not. Some do, some don't. Live your life as you want it!
There can only be one Geisterkarle
blAke139
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Switzerland199 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-31 14:27:07
August 31 2011 14:25 GMT
#662
On August 31 2011 22:34 DisneylandSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2011 22:27 NeThZOR wrote:
On August 31 2011 22:13 ForlornHope wrote:
Most of Asian still a virgin when they hit 21-25 so nothing wrong with you man

Then why is Asian porn so abundant?


More importantly, why are there so many of them? :D

Show nested quote +
On August 31 2011 21:50 blAke139 wrote:
I don't think sex is overrated.
I'm sorry, but it's just one of the greatest things that exist opinion. Not only because it's needed to create new human life, but because it's just a shitload of fun opinion based on personal experience. Neither of the two assertions propped up actually imply that sex is 'one of the greatest things that exist'.

It's in our instincts to "want sex". If you don't want it, that means your instincts are broken (that's a joke, actually) because of society. We are meant to have sex, we were "designed" to reproduce (that's serious though).

We were not meant for anything. Every person is souveran and can decide for him or herself what he chooses to value and participate in. Moreover the argument that simply because our brains are hardwired for any kind of tendency we should engage in said activity is really poor. We are also hardwired to be hostile against people outside of our tribe. imagine everyone engaging in that.

But ALL of that does not mean that you're weird if you don't want sex yet making an assumption that at some point such a state will be reached. Even if it's sounds like it. Society made sex to something fun and cool (which it both is), if you don't want it just for that, that's totally fine. You don't even have to like it. But at some point in life, every single one of us will start desiring sex baseless claim. Not because we wanna be cool too, just because our instincts tell us. All of that also applies to women, actually.

Fortunately, we don't need a club (you know, cudgel, mace, whatever) anymore to force women into having sex contradicts your own 'tendency is hardwired = do it faggot' argument from before. Ironically, we can go to clubs to make it easier though.


If this was an essay, you would have got an F.


If I wanted to write an essay, I would not freaking post such things in a forum, dude.
All I shared is my opinion. And you can say what you want, it is a fact that instincts exist, there are good and bad ones, and this one is pretty essential. If we wouldn't have that drive to recreate, we wouldn't even exist mister smartass.

And you telling me that creating a new human life does not imply that sex is one of the greatest things that exist? I can't take you serious anymore.

I'm not telling anyone that he has to have sex now. All I do is sharing my opinion and that I don't think it is overrated. Just because you were biased by idiots before (THAT is a baseless claim) telling you how cool they are having sex all day, does not mean you have to act like a jerk at anyone saying sex is cool, necessary and fun.

EDIT: and jeez, plz don't be a know it better at my english, I am not native and giving my best to participate.
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ComaDose
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada10357 Posts
August 31 2011 14:39 GMT
#663
On August 31 2011 23:25 blAke139 wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +

On August 31 2011 22:34 DisneylandSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2011 22:27 NeThZOR wrote:
On August 31 2011 22:13 ForlornHope wrote:
Most of Asian still a virgin when they hit 21-25 so nothing wrong with you man

Then why is Asian porn so abundant?


More importantly, why are there so many of them? :D

Show nested quote +
On August 31 2011 21:50 blAke139 wrote:
I don't think sex is overrated.
I'm sorry, but it's just one of the greatest things that exist opinion. Not only because it's needed to create new human life, but because it's just a shitload of fun opinion based on personal experience. Neither of the two assertions propped up actually imply that sex is 'one of the greatest things that exist'.

It's in our instincts to "want sex". If you don't want it, that means your instincts are broken (that's a joke, actually) because of society. We are meant to have sex, we were "designed" to reproduce (that's serious though).

We were not meant for anything. Every person is souveran and can decide for him or herself what he chooses to value and participate in. Moreover the argument that simply because our brains are hardwired for any kind of tendency we should engage in said activity is really poor. We are also hardwired to be hostile against people outside of our tribe. imagine everyone engaging in that.

But ALL of that does not mean that you're weird if you don't want sex yet making an assumption that at some point such a state will be reached. Even if it's sounds like it. Society made sex to something fun and cool (which it both is), if you don't want it just for that, that's totally fine. You don't even have to like it. But at some point in life, every single one of us will start desiring sex baseless claim. Not because we wanna be cool too, just because our instincts tell us. All of that also applies to women, actually.

Fortunately, we don't need a club (you know, cudgel, mace, whatever) anymore to force women into having sex contradicts your own 'tendency is hardwired = do it faggot' argument from before. Ironically, we can go to clubs to make it easier though.


If this was an essay, you would have got an F.


If I wanted to write an essay, I would not freaking post such things in a forum, dude.
All I shared is my opinion. And you can say what you want, it is a fact that instincts exist, there are good and bad ones, and this one is pretty essential. If we wouldn't have that drive to recreate, we wouldn't even exist mister smartass.

And you telling me that creating a new human life does not imply that sex is one of the greatest things that exist? I can't take you serious anymore.

I'm not telling anyone that he has to have sex now. All I do is sharing my opinion and that I don't think it is overrated. Just because you were biased by idiots before (THAT is a baseless claim) telling you how cool they are having sex all day, does not mean you have to act like a jerk at anyone saying sex is cool, necessary and fun.

EDIT: and jeez, plz don't be a know it better at my english, I am not native and giving my best to participate.


Don't sweat it he got in trouble for all the terrible posting he has been doing in this thread.
I disagree with your point that its not over rated. It is completely over rated in a variety of ways. The church gives it too much credit by condemning it. The media gives it too much credit by portraying it as the best thing ever and a worthy goal. Basically it is looked at too much. No one should be bothered by how much or little someone has sex.
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hypnoxide
Profile Joined August 2011
240 Posts
August 31 2011 14:50 GMT
#664
Typical thread from a virgin; never had sex but feels the need to call it over-rated. Someone is jelly.
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Yenticha
Profile Joined July 2010
257 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-31 15:01:39
August 31 2011 14:52 GMT
#665
No one should be bothered by how much or little someone has sex.


My guess is that everyone agrees with this. At least I do. The thing that "bothers" me is the "never". That someone has sex very rarely, with carefully selected partners is great (its kind of what I try to do). But that someone has NEVER even tried is kind of surprising. Even from a "know your body" perspective...
It's like if you had a super safe wine tasting experience offered to you, why wouldn't you try? It's safe, a huge part of human life/culture, and you can stop just after trying it if you don't like it? And maybe, like a ton of people, you will love it?

Among my friends who are still virgins, I don't know any who has never sexually desired anyone. So, I don't see the case "I have never had sex because I have never wanted to" as a valid one, for 20+ yo..

Edit: my post also implies this: as with wines, there can be terrible sex. So one should probably not drink every single wine they find in the store. And sometimes you can regret drinking a certain "homemade wine". Life is made of risks!
ComaDose
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada10357 Posts
August 31 2011 14:55 GMT
#666
On August 31 2011 23:52 Yenticha wrote:
Show nested quote +
No one should be bothered by how much or little someone has sex.


My guess is that everyone agrees with this. At least I do. The thing that "bothers" me is the "never". That someone has sex very rarely, with carefully selected partners is great (its kind of what I try to do). But that someone has NEVER even tried is kind of surprising. Even from a "know your body" perspective...
It's like if you had a super safe wine tasting experience offered to you, why wouldn't you try? It's safe, a huge part of human life/culture, and you can stop just after trying it if you don't like it? And maybe, like a ton of people, you will love it?

Among my friends who are still virgins, I don't know any who has never sexually desired anyone. So, I don't see the case "I have never had sex because I have never wanted to" as a valid one, for 20+ yo..

I agree, and therefor do not agree with those persons life choices. But I do not judge. They are missing the most stimulating physical activity that two people can partake in out of "personal preference" or societies prejudices. Their loss but if I could convince them I would highly recommend having sex.
BW pros training sc2 is like kiss making a dub step album.
Polis
Profile Joined January 2005
Poland1292 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-31 15:04:20
August 31 2011 15:02 GMT
#667
On August 31 2011 21:50 blAke139 wrote:
I don't think sex is overrated.
I'm sorry, but it's just one of the greatest things that exist. Not only because it's needed to create new human life, but because it's just a shitload of fun.

It's in our instincts to "want sex". If you don't want it, that means your instincts are broken (that's a joke, actually) because of society. We are meant to have sex, we were "designed" to reproduce (that's serious though).

But ALL of that does not mean that you're weird if you don't want sex yet. Even if it's sounds like it. Society made sex to something fun and cool (which it both is), if you don't want it just for that, that's totally fine. You don't even have to like it. But at some point in life, every single one of us will start desiring sex. Not because we wanna be cool too, just because our instincts tell us. All of that also applies to women, actually.


Wrong.
"Bogaert's analysis looked at responses to another study in Britain, published in 1994. That study was based on interviews of 18,000 people about their sexual practices.

It offered respondent a list of options. One read: "I have never felt sexually attracted to anyone at all." One percent said they agreed with the statement."

As for being designed nature isn't perfect, people can be born with obvious evolutionary disadvantages, but they can't be born without capability to experience sexual attraction? It isn't against theory of evolution at all.

There are >60 year old asexuals.
ZerglingSoup
Profile Joined June 2009
United States346 Posts
August 31 2011 15:06 GMT
#668
26 year old virgin.

Will be until I am 27.

My girl and I have chosen to wait. We want the experience of sex to be connected to the bonds of our marriage, so that our commitment will be that much more meaningful and therefore more durable.

Never kissed a girl either, we're saving that too.

It isn't easy.. certainly the temptation is intense for both of us, but in the end it is making us a much stronger couple. I would recommend it to anyone.

I am glad I have saved myself for my her and she for me. Our relationship couldn't be any more solid.
Stream plz
ComaDose
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada10357 Posts
August 31 2011 15:16 GMT
#669
On September 01 2011 00:06 ZerglingSoup wrote:
26 year old virgin.

Will be until I am 27.

My girl and I have chosen to wait. We want the experience of sex to be connected to the bonds of our marriage, so that our commitment will be that much more meaningful and therefore more durable.

Never kissed a girl either, we're saving that too.

It isn't easy.. certainly the temptation is intense for both of us, but in the end it is making us a much stronger couple. I would recommend it to anyone.

I am glad I have saved myself for my her and she for me. Our relationship couldn't be any more solid.

I'm glad it worked for you. I find it difficult to believe you never kissed your girlfriend? can I ask why?
BW pros training sc2 is like kiss making a dub step album.
Reasonable
Profile Joined September 2010
Ukraine1432 Posts
August 31 2011 15:24 GMT
#670
Seen this thread and decided to give an advice, without reading, just because I know there will be people messing with this guy.

Getting laid the first time isn't easy. It's fucking hard and requires a lot of intelligent preparation and arrangements. It will suck for a girl because you will cum in 10 seconds, also you won't know how to hold her right and how to arise her properly. So my advice is: trust your common sense, always keep an eye for opportunities, work hard and you will get it.
Shadyzz
Profile Joined March 2010
15 Posts
August 31 2011 15:26 GMT
#671
On September 01 2011 00:06 ZerglingSoup wrote:
26 year old virgin.

Will be until I am 27.

My girl and I have chosen to wait. We want the experience of sex to be connected to the bonds of our marriage, so that our commitment will be that much more meaningful and therefore more durable.

Never kissed a girl either, we're saving that too.

It isn't easy.. certainly the temptation is intense for both of us, but in the end it is making us a much stronger couple. I would recommend it to anyone.

I am glad I have saved myself for my her and she for me. Our relationship couldn't be any more solid.

Respect for you bro, best wishes for your relationship. My last relationship went down the drain because of how fast pace it went. I do believe sex is being emphasized way too much in society mostly through media, constantly being shoved at kids and targeting younger ages to boot. Nowadays it feels like its less meaningful emotionally and more for pure enjoyment... not that I'm complaining . As many celebrities admitted, Sex sells.
Cade
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1420 Posts
August 31 2011 15:27 GMT
#672
On September 01 2011 00:06 ZerglingSoup wrote:
26 year old virgin.

Will be until I am 27.

My girl and I have chosen to wait. We want the experience of sex to be connected to the bonds of our marriage, so that our commitment will be that much more meaningful and therefore more durable.

Never kissed a girl either, we're saving that too.

It isn't easy.. certainly the temptation is intense for both of us, but in the end it is making us a much stronger couple. I would recommend it to anyone.

I am glad I have saved myself for my her and she for me. Our relationship couldn't be any more solid.


Wait... What? you haven't kissed even? That's some serious stuff right there. I'm not sure if I would want that or not, but I certainly am impressed by your will power!
Stijx
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States804 Posts
August 31 2011 15:28 GMT
#673
On September 01 2011 00:06 ZerglingSoup wrote:
26 year old virgin.

Will be until I am 27.

My girl and I have chosen to wait. We want the experience of sex to be connected to the bonds of our marriage, so that our commitment will be that much more meaningful and therefore more durable.

Never kissed a girl either, we're saving that too.

It isn't easy.. certainly the temptation is intense for both of us, but in the end it is making us a much stronger couple. I would recommend it to anyone.

I am glad I have saved myself for my her and she for me. Our relationship couldn't be any more solid.


Damn, that is... impressive? Well I hope it works out man!
HeavenS
Profile Joined August 2004
Colombia2259 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-31 15:31:51
August 31 2011 15:28 GMT
#674
On September 01 2011 00:06 ZerglingSoup wrote:
26 year old virgin.

Will be until I am 27.

My girl and I have chosen to wait. We want the experience of sex to be connected to the bonds of our marriage, so that our commitment will be that much more meaningful and therefore more durable.

Never kissed a girl either, we're saving that too.

It isn't easy.. certainly the temptation is intense for both of us, but in the end it is making us a much stronger couple. I would recommend it to anyone.

I am glad I have saved myself for my her and she for me. Our relationship couldn't be any more solid.


this sounds good however i feel like its not practical. in theory it sounds amazing, but you're both humans, with desires. its normal. from my experience people that have never slept with anyone but one person usually tend to desire someone else after a while because of their lack of experiences, and really, who could blame them? And that knowledge, that they might want someone else, is pretty damn hurtful on its own. So while i admire your commitment to waiting, and i can certainly appreciate it, the thought of some of the consequences kind of scare me....

Also, to the OP. I dont feel sex is blown out of proportion. I mean, were sexual beings, everything is sex. Its hard wired into us. Sure i guess sometimes i don't like the implications of living in such a sexual society, i for example prefer women that are old fashioned and much more reserved, i value it more, and our society seems to be making these type of women scarce.....however were sexual beings so its only logical that this is the way we conduct ourselves... also i feel like waiting too long could put you at a disadvantage later on in life. For example if you fall in love with a girl, and you will, it might bring about feelings of resentment towards them if they arent a virgin. Sure at first you might be okay with it, but as the relationship goes on those feelings of resentment might come up whereas they might not had you experienced several individuals as well. I also feel like it can make you awkward when the situation does come up, another disadvantage. In today's age, something like that is important, you want to be a good lover, you want to be well versed in the act of sex. I just feel like it might lead you to some awkward and embarrassing situations and set you up for disappointment or heartbreak. IMO, you should find a girl you like, and sleep with her. Its in our nature.
Im cooler than the other side of the pillow.
chrissummers
Profile Joined March 2011
243 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-31 15:31:47
August 31 2011 15:30 GMT
#675
On September 01 2011 00:06 ZerglingSoup wrote:
26 year old virgin.

Will be until I am 27.

My girl and I have chosen to wait. We want the experience of sex to be connected to the bonds of our marriage, so that our commitment will be that much more meaningful and therefore more durable.

Never kissed a girl either, we're saving that too.

It isn't easy.. certainly the temptation is intense for both of us, but in the end it is making us a much stronger couple. I would recommend it to anyone.

I am glad I have saved myself for my her and she for me. Our relationship couldn't be any more solid.


Even though I believe you to not be serious ( never kissed your GF????? ), I gotta say the illusion that postponing sex until you married makes it more meaningful or is saying anything about the relationship, is quite naive. Only because you don't eat a donut until you are married, it does not make the donut any better or more valuable when you eat it afterwards.

There might actually be people that think so, but this special treatment of sex is totally unnecessary and only brings harm. Oppressed desires do not lead to anything good.
RTudoRR
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Romania216 Posts
August 31 2011 15:31 GMT
#676
On September 01 2011 00:24 Reasonable wrote:
Seen this thread and decided to give an advice, without reading, just because I know there will be people messing with this guy.

Getting laid the first time isn't easy. It's fucking hard and requires a lot of intelligent preparation and arrangements. It will suck for a girl because you will cum in 10 seconds, also you won't know how to hold her right and how to arise her properly. So my advice is: trust your common sense, always keep an eye for opportunities, work hard and you will get it.


...srsly now...10 seconds...?...lol....

on-topic: you're thinking too much -_-' go to a party get a girl drunk and voila~
HeavenS
Profile Joined August 2004
Colombia2259 Posts
August 31 2011 15:34 GMT
#677
On September 01 2011 00:31 RTudoRR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2011 00:24 Reasonable wrote:
Seen this thread and decided to give an advice, without reading, just because I know there will be people messing with this guy.

Getting laid the first time isn't easy. It's fucking hard and requires a lot of intelligent preparation and arrangements. It will suck for a girl because you will cum in 10 seconds, also you won't know how to hold her right and how to arise her properly. So my advice is: trust your common sense, always keep an eye for opportunities, work hard and you will get it.


...srsly now...10 seconds...?...lol....

on-topic: you're thinking too much -_-' go to a party get a girl drunk and voila~


the opposite is true for me, when i first sleep with a girl, i cant seem to cum. I mean sure eventually i can but i really have to try to. As i get more and more comfortable, then it becomes easier and easier for me to cum, to the point where at times i actually have to try and stop myself from finishing lol. so i guess different strokes for different folks.
Im cooler than the other side of the pillow.
cordlc
Profile Joined November 2010
United States360 Posts
August 31 2011 15:34 GMT
#678
On September 01 2011 00:06 ZerglingSoup wrote:
26 year old virgin.

Will be until I am 27.

My girl and I have chosen to wait. We want the experience of sex to be connected to the bonds of our marriage, so that our commitment will be that much more meaningful and therefore more durable.

Never kissed a girl either, we're saving that too.

It isn't easy.. certainly the temptation is intense for both of us, but in the end it is making us a much stronger couple. I would recommend it to anyone.

I am glad I have saved myself for my her and she for me. Our relationship couldn't be any more solid.

Not meaning to pick on you in particular (there are other posts with this sort of feeling), but this post does illustrate, to me, how "sex is OP" in society.

Why? Well, I think many of us can easily agree that calling someone a loser just because they haven't had sex before a particular age or something is pretty silly. Most people responding to the thread have argued this.

The sacredness we put on sex, however, is the other side of the coin. It makes no sense to me, unless you're following your religion or something, there's just no reason not to go enjoy yourselves. There's no good reason not to indulge in "meaningless sex" like it were any other hobby, if it's something you enjoy. Yet when people (mainly girls) treat sex, or even nudity casually they're crucified. I hope those defending the OP aren't the same ones that look down on girls for being "sluts," I think that's just as bad.

This is from the perspective of someone who lives in the US, it may be different everywhere else in the world.

I'll admit my opinions are way different from the norm, though. I'm not a fan of the sexual exclusiveness thing.
HeavenS
Profile Joined August 2004
Colombia2259 Posts
August 31 2011 15:34 GMT
#679
On September 01 2011 00:30 chrissummers wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2011 00:06 ZerglingSoup wrote:
26 year old virgin.

Will be until I am 27.

My girl and I have chosen to wait. We want the experience of sex to be connected to the bonds of our marriage, so that our commitment will be that much more meaningful and therefore more durable.

Never kissed a girl either, we're saving that too.

It isn't easy.. certainly the temptation is intense for both of us, but in the end it is making us a much stronger couple. I would recommend it to anyone.

I am glad I have saved myself for my her and she for me. Our relationship couldn't be any more solid.


Even though I believe you to not be serious ( never kissed your GF????? ), I gotta say the illusion that postponing sex until you married makes it more meaningful or is saying anything about the relationship, is quite naive. Only because you don't eat a donut until you are married, it does not make the donut any better or more valuable when you eat it afterwards.

There might actually be people that think so, but this special treatment of sex is totally unnecessary and only brings harm. Oppressed desires do not lead to anything good.


agreed.
Im cooler than the other side of the pillow.
Rokit5
Profile Joined April 2010
236 Posts
August 31 2011 15:42 GMT
#680
I might sound like a hippie,but just be yourself, dont think too much about what other people think about you, dont rush, relax and be happy with what youve got. It aint easy, but its possible. You will be a much happier person. As an example; im shorter than most people, and for many years it bothered the shit out of me, i was constantly thiking about it, and i didn't consider myself "normal". Today i couldnt care less, ive accepted the way i look and im actually glad about my height, and the best part is that since ive learned to accept myself, ive become way more confident, which is something girls can smell, and thus havent had any problems getting girls ever since.
So, yeah, relax and be yourself.
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