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haegN
Profile Joined July 2009
Norway533 Posts
July 23 2011 01:45 GMT
#481
Sex is so good.

Definately OP, IMBA and all other things.

A.D.I.D.A.S
None can give you skills, ubermicro, wins or anything. If you are man - you take it!
_Major
Profile Joined April 2011
United States107 Posts
July 23 2011 01:53 GMT
#482
What's really going to blow your mind once you start having sex, is how the world tries to convince you that the sex you are having is not as good as if it were with someone else.

Pro tip: relax - nature finds a way.



Do you practice on Macro Or Die maps? You should - http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=216550
Poffel
Profile Joined March 2011
471 Posts
July 23 2011 02:06 GMT
#483
On July 22 2011 11:38 heroyi wrote:
I do wish someday to experience it (ultimately to have kids and raise a family) however I do feel that people are raising the point up too frequently and giving it too much value. Is it really something that should be highly regarded where if you fail to achieve such feat then you are looked down upon?

Maybe the bolded part is the problem. Talking about sex to anybody else than your partner/liaison tends to be tedious, much unlike the real thing.
Grumbaki
Profile Joined September 2010
Belgium141 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-23 02:08:53
July 23 2011 02:07 GMT
#484
In your OP you link being sexy to getting laid. Bar that.

I'm a fat pale dude that bangs a cute asian chick. Not rich in case you wonder.

Read again about bourdieu's capital description.

You don't only have sexual capital to exchange. You also have cultural, symbolic, social and financial capitals to propose. Just find a chick with capitals you like (even if that include motherbleeping hot) that values highly the capitals you have.

I'm 2 years married and happy with that cute asian chick based on cutural symbolic and social capital

Other than that you can listen to Oscar Wilde: "Everything in the world is about sex except sex. Sex is about power."

I know my answer is cynical but it's honnest.
Gruik
VL-Orion
Profile Joined April 2011
Indonesia78 Posts
July 23 2011 04:25 GMT
#485
There is really nothing to discuss here.
The idea that if you procreate many times with another person(preferable before you hit 21/25) can make you happy is ignorant and has no scientific basis.(this can be achieved however by the use illicit substances)

Sex is just sex(assuming you did it with strangers), its a way to pleasure yourself legally (unless you are in Utah) there is really not much of a different from let say masturbating in your room.
In both we are looking to satisfied our primeval libido and both achieved the same result (more or less) with one having more risk involved in it(unwanted pregnancy, angry parents , or perhaps even STD)
So really if all you really want is to satisfied your libido I recommend masturbation as a much safer alternative.

(This next wall of text are opinions therefore it can be ignored completely)[/b]
I do think you should give it a try once of twice just to know how it is (since you want to start a family and all).
I on the other hand has completely given up on the stupid idea like "love" and common human decency long ago, so I really cant be bothered with (why do it when you have no end game)
"The first thing we do, let's kill all the lawyers"
LMPeaches
Profile Joined December 2010
United States157 Posts
July 23 2011 04:42 GMT
#486
On July 23 2011 09:44 SolidusR wrote:
Exactly lol, people who are 18+ and haven't had sex yet are typically insecure about it and demonstrate it in one fashion or the other. They make a big deal out of it (ironically) and about how they are special from everyone else because they aren't interested or they just "don't get it". Sometimes they even try to make other people feel bad about doing it.

Then they have sex. All of a sudden things make sense, they feel accepted by the opposite gender, and magically the justifications for virginity disappear. It's not really that simple, but yeah, the point is that virgins believe that sex isn't a big deal right up until they do it themselves.


Yup.

Lets all just shut up and fuck now
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madstarcraft
Profile Joined May 2011
United States103 Posts
July 23 2011 04:45 GMT
#487
i dont think most people will judge a person by wither or not they have or have not had sex b4. and the people who do obviously aren't worth your time. in the words of liquidtyler "just chill"
Terran is OP deal with it!
Athos
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States2484 Posts
July 23 2011 05:00 GMT
#488
My advice is definitely wait until you have a great relationship before you even start thinking about sex. A year ago I was in a similar situation, but then I found my girlfriend and we've been very happy together. However once you find somebody, you should wait before you truly go at it. It will test your relationship, and make you guys much closer when you do start to have sex.
heishe
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany2284 Posts
July 23 2011 10:14 GMT
#489
Sorry, I went asleep yesterday so I have to reply 12 or so hours later.

On July 23 2011 05:36 Keitzer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2011 05:30 heishe wrote:
On July 23 2011 04:35 Keitzer wrote:
On July 23 2011 04:18 MadVillain wrote:
On July 23 2011 03:55 Keitzer wrote:
On July 23 2011 03:38 MadVillain wrote:
I honestly felt the same way as the OP did... until I lost my virginity. There was a girl I liked, told myself to stop being a pussy, talked to her a month or so later she was my girlfriend and we had sex. It was great, we had a lot of sex and I think I've learned some valuable skills.

90% of the time when people say they don't want/need sex they are just bullshitting themselves, I know this from personal experience. I told myself over and over, it doesn't matter you'll do it when the right girl comes blah blah bullshit bullshit. These are people who, like me, weren't confident enough and were too much of a pussy to try and get it. Sex is fun, it is stress relieving, it gives you confidence it really is all positive.

Abstinence is silly in my opinion. Humans naturally have an innate drive to rub there genitals together and denying this really doesn't do anything. The thought that it will be more special if sex is saved for marriage is complete crap.

Sex like all things takes practice to be good at, you think your first time having sex when you're 30 and you just got married is going to be some magical moment? No, it will be a hilariously awkward affair, not knowing foreplay, cuming in 10 secs etc.

Sex is good for you, do it.


but... WHY is it good... what benefit do you get from having sex besides not looking like a dumbass when you finally do get married?

edit: you mentioned a few things: stress relieving, fun, and confidence.

1. I am stress free already.
2. I have enough in my day that I don't feel the need to add something unnecessary.
3. I am self-motivated and confident enough in myself that I need not participate.

Now, if you worked a 9-5 job that your boss was always harping on you about, you come home to a shitty financial situation, and the most fun you can have is by watching some prime-time TV, then ya, go at it. But my problem with this whole "oh, it's great for you!" is that all the so called "benefits" are things that just counter the negatives in one's life. When one (aka, me) has no negatives that it can counter, why do it?


I get your point. But... it is a point spoken like a true virgin.

I have enough in my day that I don't feel the need to add something unnecessary.


Are you really saying that you're too busy to have sex? You're too busy to engage in a very personal, visceral, intimate activity with another human being? Are you saying that you feel nothing when that girl you like walks by looking sexy?

This is the mindset of someone who has talked themselves into THINKING they don't want sex. Love-making with someone you care about is anything but unnecessary, it is a very rewarding and fulfilling activity.

And you're right, you might not NEED sex. I'm not saying anyone really NEEDS sex, but the benefits I mentioned come ON TOP of what you already have in your life. You might be confident in some respects like your work, school etc, but what about talking to people, talking to girls? Your fitness etc?

What I'm saying is I believe sex can enhance your life, even if you think your life is already good.


No i'm definitely not too busy. Yes I do "feel something", but don't care enough to go after it.

ya cool, sex can add things to my life (things you listed), but how does it help me achieve my end goal at either a faster or more efficient rate (be a multi-millionaire)?

well then maybe it goes even deeper than that... (which is getting off topic) which is that I see no use for a girlfriend either. Not saying I'm not attracted to women (which holy shit yes I am), just that there isn't enough of a persuasive reason to get a girlfriend. My friends have one because they want that emotional attraction, which I don't feel.


If your only goal is to be a multi-millionaire, then you probably won't ever understand why people like sex just for the sake of having sex.

There's no logical answer to your question. What advantage does sex have? Well, it has some nice side effects like releasing endorphines when you orgasm and other biochemical stuff like that, but that's probably not what you're talking about when you ask for why sex is good.

It just feels good and is one of the most fulfilling things that most humans can do. For you it isn't like that and money is probably more fulfilling to you, and that's fine, that's just the way you are.

But there's no need to argue about it since nobody will be able to explain it to you. How would somebody explain to you how strawberries taste if you haven't ever eaten a fruit in your life?



FINALLY! Someone who else who sides with the FACT that sex only adds physical pleasure to your life.

Now, not saying I wouldn't MIND the pleasure, but the risks involved, the time it takes to find "the one" and the little gain you actually get from it, not worth it IMO.


(Almost) Exactly. Sex does not only give you purely physical pleasure, of course. After sex, due to the chemical things involved that I mentioned, you will also get a load of psychological pleasures, like general happiness, short-term boost in self confidence. etc. And when you have good sex with a long term partner, it actually adds a giant amount of happiness to the relationship overall.

These things are not really useful per se, but they are without a doubt nice.

But you still have to keep in mind that it's just personal preference. Someone else might say: "Yeah, being rich is good and all and I wouldn't MIND it, but the work involved, the time it takes to make a lot of money, and the little emotional gain you actually get from it compared to other things... not worth it IMO." and it would still be a perfectly valid point.
If you value your soul, never look into the eye of a horse. Your soul will forever be lost in the void of the horse.
msjakofsky
Profile Joined June 2011
1169 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-23 10:42:04
July 23 2011 10:40 GMT
#490
On July 22 2011 11:38 heroyi wrote:
I am 20 years old about to hit 21 and am still a virgin. What is the point of the said statement?

Well to an avg-dimwitted tool, I would be considered a "loser."
Is this a valid assumption?

Society puts a lot of pressure, especially on pre-teens, on the idea of you must have sex else you are just a loser. They portray that you can't achieve a fulfilling happy life without and everybody is doing it and it is easy as 1,2,3.Despite there being studies showing both men and women who have engaged in sexual activity despite not wanting to or feeling "ready."

I do wish someday to experience it (ultimately to have kids and raise a family) however I do feel that people are raising the point up too frequently and giving it too much value. Is it really something that should be highly regarded where if you fail to achieve such feat then you are looked down upon?

discuss??

edit:
I am not a religious person. I raised the point just for curiosity sake.

However if you are asking whether I am religious or not due to my virginity then no. I am a virgin just because fate has not allowed to experience it...but that is not the point

edit 2:
I did not state nor do I "value" virginity highly.
I am asking if sex topic, in general, is over valued in society.
This topic ties to a lot of other things. It connects to the problems little girls with social images of them must having a 32C boobs and slim slender body else they are not socially acceptable. It connects to "porn" addiction with the arise of the internet. Which also connects to people have super high expectation of what sex should be (i.e threesome is not as prominent as people think)
etc...

"Why is everything about sex?"
-40 year old virgin


i don't think you are a loser and i don't know what kind of person are you, but i and millions of other people can tell you, sex with an attractive female is the best fun you can have, it can't be overrated, nothing compares to it. how high are your expectations of life? if you want to live a happy and fulfilling life without sex, then you have to be lacking something that's coded into humans by nature (those people are called asexual). i suspect that you haven't had sex yet, this state obviously disturbs you and because of that you started manufacturing a self-defensive philosophy for it- this is also a natural thing, but you only have to have sex one time to see that it doesn't work the slightest;)

also humans are social creatures, it's only natural that people start to date after a certain age, and with those usually sex is involved. so if you're asking, can life be happy and fulfilled without such relationship? no one dreams about being alone, it usually sucks.

I too lost my virginity pretty late, at the age of 18, and i had some asshole "friends" that mocked me for it, if you have such people around you, it's time to get new friends i say. also i consider myself a pretty calm and intellectual person, but when i'm turned on by a girl everything starts to move around sex if we interact in any way;) and most my friends are much worse- and we're all normal people.
jexxto
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom284 Posts
July 23 2011 10:54 GMT
#491
You only feel this way because you are a virgin. Once you start having regular sex you will realize you was worried about nothing. It only feels that sex is everywhere because you're not getting any. You won't notice is so much once you get it out of your system so to speak.

Goodluck and good sex.
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ThePieRate
Profile Joined September 2010
United States263 Posts
July 23 2011 11:02 GMT
#492
I lost mine when I was 17. I felt a huge confidence boost afterwards. It's nothing special really. Sure it feels good, but it's nothing to brag about having. One thing I really suggest is have it with someone you truly like. The first time I did it was more of a "Aw fuck it, I might as well." sort of thing and I really regret it.
Akta
Profile Joined February 2011
447 Posts
July 23 2011 11:14 GMT
#493
Doesn't feel like a very complex issue at all. Can organize it this way:

Question:
-Why does a lot of people think 20+ year old virgins are losers?

Answer:
-Because a lot of people feel that men being attractive to women equals to being a winner.
virpi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Germany3598 Posts
July 23 2011 11:17 GMT
#494
I've lost my virginity with 20, too. I Fucked around like a madman for four years, until I got bored of it. Now I haven't had sex since January. And it feels absolutely fantastic, I think won`t have sex for a long time.
first we make expand, then we defense it.
MilesTeg
Profile Joined September 2010
France1271 Posts
July 23 2011 11:37 GMT
#495
Most of the people I know lost their virginity around 20 too ^^ Sporty, normal, decent looking people, in France I may add which is far from a puritain country.

People are so quick to brag about sex though; but I'm pretty sure those who do it for the first time at 12-14 are in the minority.

Anyway my point is:
1) don't forget that when it comes to sex people lie. A lot.
2) it's really not something you should worry about, you might be over the median age but still in a perfectly normal range.
Peet_C
Profile Joined July 2011
Spain1 Post
July 23 2011 11:49 GMT
#496
Hey man, don't beat yourself up over this, it just doesn't worth the effort. The day will come when you will start a family and have kids, and you will look back in time and say: what the f*** was in my head?. The sex theme appears around 18-20 years old and it stays there about 3 years or something like that, and most people get obsessed and won't stop talking about it and make a lot of jokes and things like that, just because it is something new and they don't have any idea about the thing, and try to find out as much as possible about it and being cool at the same time( this is the part when: you're a looser comes into place...). Don't worry, the day will come, you will lose your virginity, and say....that's it ?. And after that you will fall in love ( it may sound like i'm Hanna Montana but it's true ) and then sex will become much more satisfying. Don't worry about society, just be you and defend what you think. I'm sorry for the grammatical errors, English is not my "natural" language.
Nuf
Profile Joined November 2010
Denmark145 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-23 12:01:24
July 23 2011 11:59 GMT
#497
It's not that special. I always knew it wasn't. It's special with somebody you love, I can tell because I tried with somebody I didn't really love, and it felt very wrong, and I got a girlfriend now which I love more than anything else, and I can say that sex is great like that

What I'm trying to say, keep waiting until you feel like you really love somebody. Then go ahead.
For the Swarm!
JesusOurSaviour
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United Arab Emirates1141 Posts
July 23 2011 12:07 GMT
#498
On July 23 2011 20:17 virpi wrote:
I've lost my virginity with 20, too. I Fucked around like a madman for four years, until I got bored of it. Now I haven't had sex since January. And it feels absolutely fantastic, I think won`t have sex for a long time.
Question is: why is sex boring? Isn't the catch for sex, "Fun, Free and TOTALLY amazing?" Bro go back and have sex like them ancient Greeks

Nah - seriously why did it get boring for you? (genuinely interested here)
Maple Bass
Profile Joined July 2011
22 Posts
July 23 2011 12:28 GMT
#499
I haven't read through this entire thread but all I can say is this - you wouldn't be having these thoughts and trying to subtlety justify them if you weren't a virgin. What I mean is, if the opportunity of having sex with the girl you like at university/the girl you had a crush on in high school was there - would you be asking: "Society puts a lot of pressure, especially on pre-teens, on the idea of you must have sex else you are just a loser. They portray that you can't achieve a fulfilling happy life without and everybody is doing it and it is easy as 1, 2, 3." My guess is no... You'd probably leap at the opportunity, or at least consider it seriously without thinking about society or peer pressure etc.

The point I am making is this - I think your views are a result of the lack of the option to have sex, whether you realise this consciously or not. Correct me if I'm wrong, that you could have sex with your girlfriend right now if you wanted to but you are refusing to due to not being 'ready'.
Akta
Profile Joined February 2011
447 Posts
July 23 2011 12:48 GMT
#500
On July 23 2011 21:07 JesusOurSaviour wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2011 20:17 virpi wrote:
I've lost my virginity with 20, too. I Fucked around like a madman for four years, until I got bored of it. Now I haven't had sex since January. And it feels absolutely fantastic, I think won`t have sex for a long time.
Question is: why is sex boring? Isn't the catch for sex, "Fun, Free and TOTALLY amazing?" Bro go back and have sex like them ancient Greeks

Nah - seriously why did it get boring for you? (genuinely interested here)
I can't speak for virpi but for a lot of older people like me it's not the sex itself you get "tired" of, more getting tired of a lifestyle. Sex doesn't bore me at all but everything in my life isn't focused on it like it probably was one way or another when I was younger.
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