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On July 23 2011 08:05 Jombozeus wrote:
This is what I said to my girlfriend: "Amy, I find myself wondering if we should actually engage in coitus at least one time in our relationship ... bazinga!"
I'm also a physicist.
*chuckle*
Sex is just another thing we people do... like eating or breathing, except it actually requires some effort on our part to seek out.
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sex is fun. i dont get the point in this thread...
+ Show Spoiler +btw threesomes and orgies occur a lot more than you would think, as i found out in my 2 years at college and 3 years at uni
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On July 23 2011 08:49 arthur wrote:
sex is fun. i dont get the point in this thread...
I think the point of this thread is that OP thinks that having sex, or mayby sexual relationships in general, are given to much emphasis in judging how succesfull someone is.
I kind of agree with him, although not really with the sex part but more with the having a boy-/girlfriend paradigm in general. I experience this a lot with old primary / highschool friends of mine. Most of them have hardly any to mediocre education and are currently living at their parents house being unemployed. I on the other hand have a bunch of really fancy degrees, am currently doing a phd, have published and hence added to the knowledge of mankind, am making a bunch of money and traveling the world while doing so. Yet they always ask me if I have a girlfriend yet. And when I answer no they get all sympathetic, like I'm the basketcase here. So apprently something as banal as having a boy- / girlfriend trumps every accomplishment in life. I find this extremely annoying and mayby even slightly worrying.
Edit: I am not arguing not to have sex or that it isn't important. By all means at least "check it out". See how you feel about it, it is yet another experience you can have during your life. And it can be a very good experience at that. I am only questioning the weight assigned to the topic.
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My personal viewpoint is sex is the ultimate expression of love, and no one is worthy of that expression from me except my wife, on our wedding night.
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Having lost my virginity at 17, to someone who is 23 (now my fiancee) even that was considered "late" - i indeed stayed a virgin because i couldnt get any, and considered myself a loser, and lied to my friends as a result (so convincingly when i actually told people i was a virgin they laughed me off as bullshitting) looking back, i wasnt a loser. I had friends, i did normal things and i was in the so called "popular" circle of people in my school. Because i hadnt had sex doesnt make me a loser i guess, i just spent half of my teenage years yearning after one girl which kinda destroyed any want of other female attention, damn was i stupid.
If you simply cant get any, its probably fixable, the gym, spot cream etc...sort yourself out xD you'd be surprised what a bit of muscle, facial hair and confidence will do for you.
EDIT: also, kudos for posting this on a gaming website, as the dickfaces will obviously flood to this thread to troll with LOL OMFG A NERD FUGLY GUY CANT GET ANY, LOOOOOOOOOOL.
Didnt read all the pages but i guess theres this floating around to an extent, and to these people i say. Fuck you. You will fail at life and will never understand anything deeper then a paddling pool.
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I think people make far too big of a deal out of it. I grew up (from about 17-21) thinking that I needed to do it. I built it up in my mind so much that it made it very difficult to talk to girls that I was interested in. My mind immediately went to "maybe we'll have sex". This is not because I was a little horndog, it was because the sex-promoting culture that we lived in made me feel like each year that passed by while I still had my "V" card was an utter failure, and I was fucking up my life.
I've recently "rectified" the situation (had sex). Two things: 1. In my opinion, its not the end-all, be-all that everyone makes it out to be. It's fun, and probably great with the right person, but rushing into it is definitely a mistake. Having sex just to do it once is not a good approach to the situation. 2. I don't really feel any different after doing it (maybe a little less concerned that I'm failing in life). You should concentrate on getting with a girl on a personal, emotional level first with sex to follow. Making sex the primary goal is a mistake.
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On July 23 2011 09:05 DisneylandSC wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2011 08:49 arthur wrote:
sex is fun. i dont get the point in this thread...
I think the point of this thread is that OP thinks that having sex, or mayby sexual relationships in general, are given to much emphasis in judging how succesfull someone is. I kind of agree with him, although not really with the sex part but more with the having a boy-/girlfriend paradigm in general. I experience this a lot with old primary / highschool friends of mine. Most of them have hardly any to mediocre education and are currently living at their parents house being unemployed. I on the other hand have a bunch of really fancy degrees, am currently doing a phd, have published and hence added to the knowledge of mankind, am making a bunch of money and traveling the world while doing so. Yet they always ask me if I have a girlfriend yet. And when I answer no they get all sympathetic, like I'm the basketcase here. So apprently something as banal as having a boy- / girlfriend trumps every accomplishment in life. I find this extremely annoying and mayby even slightly worrying.
"I have done well in my studies because I don't have girlfriends.
They have done poorly in studies because they have relationships."
Please tell me I misunderstood. If I am grasping your mean idea, then you may want to look up "post hoc, ergo propter hoc," and then rethink your assumptions about how relationships effect educational success.
Also, one of the single best places to find someone with similar interests is college. You are surrounded by successful women every day in school.
You may regret not searching for someone later in life, while you have such a good opportunity in front of you.
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On July 22 2011 11:38 heroyi wrote:
I am 20 years old about to hit 21 and am still a virgin. What is the point of the said statement?
Well to an avg-dimwitted tool, I would be considered a "loser."
Is this a valid assumption?
Society puts a lot of pressure, especially on pre-teens, on the idea of you must have sex else you are just a loser. They portray that you can't achieve a fulfilling happy life without and everybody is doing it and it is easy as 1,2,3.Despite there being studies showing both men and women who have engaged in sexual activity despite not wanting to or feeling "ready."
I do wish someday to experience it (ultimately to have kids and raise a family) however I do feel that people are raising the point up too frequently and giving it too much value. Is it really something that should be highly regarded where if you fail to achieve such feat then you are looked down upon?
discuss??
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I am not a religious person. I raised the point just for curiosity sake.
However if you are asking whether I am religious or not due to my virginity then no. I am a virgin just because fate has not allowed to experience it...but that is not the point
edit 2:
I did not state nor do I "value" virginity highly.
I am asking if sex topic, in general, is over valued in society.
This topic ties to a lot of other things. It connects to the problems little girls with social images of them must having a 32C boobs and slim slender body else they are not socially acceptable. It connects to "porn" addiction with the arise of the internet. Which also connects to people have super high expectation of what sex should be (i.e threesome is not as prominent as people think)
etc...
"Why is everything about sex?"
-40 year old virgin
The fact that you're not having sex makes you a loser or you're a loser because you're not having sex, or if you're even a loser at all is really irrelevant. Once you actually get laid you're viewpoint will change and you will care much more about it.
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On July 23 2011 08:13 Keitzer wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2011 07:26 Mente wrote:On July 23 2011 05:36 Keitzer wrote:On July 23 2011 05:30 heishe wrote:On July 23 2011 04:35 Keitzer wrote:On July 23 2011 04:18 MadVillain wrote:On July 23 2011 03:55 Keitzer wrote:On July 23 2011 03:38 MadVillain wrote:
I honestly felt the same way as the OP did... until I lost my virginity. There was a girl I liked, told myself to stop being a pussy, talked to her a month or so later she was my girlfriend and we had sex. It was great, we had a lot of sex and I think I've learned some valuable skills.
90% of the time when people say they don't want/need sex they are just bullshitting themselves, I know this from personal experience. I told myself over and over, it doesn't matter you'll do it when the right girl comes blah blah bullshit bullshit. These are people who, like me, weren't confident enough and were too much of a pussy to try and get it. Sex is fun, it is stress relieving, it gives you confidence it really is all positive.
Abstinence is silly in my opinion. Humans naturally have an innate drive to rub there genitals together and denying this really doesn't do anything. The thought that it will be more special if sex is saved for marriage is complete crap.
Sex like all things takes practice to be good at, you think your first time having sex when you're 30 and you just got married is going to be some magical moment? No, it will be a hilariously awkward affair, not knowing foreplay, cuming in 10 secs etc.
Sex is good for you, do it. but... WHY is it good... what benefit do you get from having sex besides not looking like a dumbass when you finally do get married? edit: you mentioned a few things: stress relieving, fun, and confidence. 1. I am stress free already. 2. I have enough in my day that I don't feel the need to add something unnecessary. 3. I am self-motivated and confident enough in myself that I need not participate. Now, if you worked a 9-5 job that your boss was always harping on you about, you come home to a shitty financial situation, and the most fun you can have is by watching some prime-time TV, then ya, go at it. But my problem with this whole "oh, it's great for you!" is that all the so called "benefits" are things that just counter the negatives in one's life. When one (aka, me) has no negatives that it can counter, why do it? I get your point. But... it is a point spoken like a true virgin. I have enough in my day that I don't feel the need to add something unnecessary. Are you really saying that you're too busy to have sex? You're too busy to engage in a very personal, visceral, intimate activity with another human being? Are you saying that you feel nothing when that girl you like walks by looking sexy? This is the mindset of someone who has talked themselves into THINKING they don't want sex. Love-making with someone you care about is anything but unnecessary, it is a very rewarding and fulfilling activity. And you're right, you might not NEED sex. I'm not saying anyone really NEEDS sex, but the benefits I mentioned come ON TOP of what you already have in your life. You might be confident in some respects like your work, school etc, but what about talking to people, talking to girls? Your fitness etc? What I'm saying is I believe sex can enhance your life, even if you think your life is already good. No i'm definitely not too busy. Yes I do "feel something", but don't care enough to go after it. ya cool, sex can add things to my life (things you listed), but how does it help me achieve my end goal at either a faster or more efficient rate (be a multi-millionaire)? well then maybe it goes even deeper than that... (which is getting off topic) which is that I see no use for a girlfriend either. Not saying I'm not attracted to women (which holy shit yes I am), just that there isn't enough of a persuasive reason to get a girlfriend. My friends have one because they want that emotional attraction, which I don't feel. If your only goal is to be a multi-millionaire, then you probably won't ever understand why people like sex just for the sake of having sex. There's no logical answer to your question. What advantage does sex have? Well, it has some nice side effects like releasing endorphines when you orgasm and other biochemical stuff like that, but that's probably not what you're talking about when you ask for why sex is good. It just feels good and is one of the most fulfilling things that most humans can do. For you it isn't like that and money is probably more fulfilling to you, and that's fine, that's just the way you are. But there's no need to argue about it since nobody will be able to explain it to you. How would somebody explain to you how strawberries taste if you haven't ever eaten a fruit in your life? FINALLY! Someone who else who sides with the FACT that sex only adds physical pleasure to your life. Now, not saying I wouldn't MIND the pleasure, but the risks involved, the time it takes to find "the one" and the little gain you actually get from it, not worth it IMO. This is actually completely not true. Not only does consistent sex increase have tons of correlational evidence that would support the fact that sex increases life expectancy, decreases stress, decreases risk for cancer and heart disease.y Increased life expectancy because of what... reduced stress? Reduced stress because it releases the same chemicals in your brain that can be obtained elsewhere Decreased risk for what kind of cancer (prostate?) Decreased heart disease because of physical activity, not because you had sexual intercourse. Both get blood flowing which naturally decreases heart problems. Show nested quote +On July 23 2011 07:54 Malgrif wrote:On July 23 2011 04:35 Keitzer wrote:On July 23 2011 04:18 MadVillain wrote:On July 23 2011 03:55 Keitzer wrote:On July 23 2011 03:38 MadVillain wrote:
I honestly felt the same way as the OP did... until I lost my virginity. There was a girl I liked, told myself to stop being a pussy, talked to her a month or so later she was my girlfriend and we had sex. It was great, we had a lot of sex and I think I've learned some valuable skills.
90% of the time when people say they don't want/need sex they are just bullshitting themselves, I know this from personal experience. I told myself over and over, it doesn't matter you'll do it when the right girl comes blah blah bullshit bullshit. These are people who, like me, weren't confident enough and were too much of a pussy to try and get it. Sex is fun, it is stress relieving, it gives you confidence it really is all positive.
Abstinence is silly in my opinion. Humans naturally have an innate drive to rub there genitals together and denying this really doesn't do anything. The thought that it will be more special if sex is saved for marriage is complete crap.
Sex like all things takes practice to be good at, you think your first time having sex when you're 30 and you just got married is going to be some magical moment? No, it will be a hilariously awkward affair, not knowing foreplay, cuming in 10 secs etc.
Sex is good for you, do it. but... WHY is it good... what benefit do you get from having sex besides not looking like a dumbass when you finally do get married? edit: you mentioned a few things: stress relieving, fun, and confidence. 1. I am stress free already. 2. I have enough in my day that I don't feel the need to add something unnecessary. 3. I am self-motivated and confident enough in myself that I need not participate. Now, if you worked a 9-5 job that your boss was always harping on you about, you come home to a shitty financial situation, and the most fun you can have is by watching some prime-time TV, then ya, go at it. But my problem with this whole "oh, it's great for you!" is that all the so called "benefits" are things that just counter the negatives in one's life. When one (aka, me) has no negatives that it can counter, why do it? I get your point. But... it is a point spoken like a true virgin. I have enough in my day that I don't feel the need to add something unnecessary. Are you really saying that you're too busy to have sex? You're too busy to engage in a very personal, visceral, intimate activity with another human being? Are you saying that you feel nothing when that girl you like walks by looking sexy? This is the mindset of someone who has talked themselves into THINKING they don't want sex. Love-making with someone you care about is anything but unnecessary, it is a very rewarding and fulfilling activity. And you're right, you might not NEED sex. I'm not saying anyone really NEEDS sex, but the benefits I mentioned come ON TOP of what you already have in your life. You might be confident in some respects like your work, school etc, but what about talking to people, talking to girls? Your fitness etc? What I'm saying is I believe sex can enhance your life, even if you think your life is already good. No i'm definitely not too busy. Yes I do "feel something", but don't care enough to go after it. ya cool, sex can add things to my life (things you listed), but how does it help me achieve my end goal at either a faster or more efficient rate (be a multi-millionaire)? well then maybe it goes even deeper than that... (which is getting off topic) which is that I see no use for a girlfriend either. Not saying I'm not attracted to women (which holy shit yes I am), just that there isn't enough of a persuasive reason to get a girlfriend. My friends have one because they want that emotional attraction, which I don't feel. let me ask you good sir, do you masturbate? lol? ya. then it should be obvious why people have sex. if it still isn't than you're just being thick.
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Sex is different for different people... as you can clearly see from the variety of posts you see on this thread. Some wanna save it for the "right" person; other don't value it in that sense and consider it something that they would do for fun after a night of meeting someone during clubbing or college partying; others turn to religion to determine when they should have sex and bla bla bla... it's all different to each person
For me, sex is just an aspect of life that you do whenever the moment presents itself and if you want to do it. It's just something you do to enjoy yourself, almost like playing video games, smoking a blunt and any other activity you would do for leisure/a good time. I don't think about it as some ultimate form of expressing love that should only be done with the right person or anything like, and I also don't believe that one should turn to religion for answers regarding when it should be done. Just have sex when you want to, whether that means never, often, sometimes, or only with your wife, etc., etc. ... Some people think having sex regulary or seeking it is shallow while others think being virgins are losers... The truth is anyone who has either of those views is wrong. Do it when you want to and when you're comfortable, and don't worry about what anyone else thinks. Don't do it out of societal pressure though... society/media always has its messages; they're just opinions though and you shouldn't feel like they're "right". That whole "virgins are losers" viewpoint is just a load of crap. But, if you're going to do it whenever you're going to do it, my only advice is: "use safety and enjoy". You wouldn't wanna wake up the next day with the wory that you might have some STD. 
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On July 23 2011 09:32 krbz wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2011 09:05 DisneylandSC wrote:On July 23 2011 08:49 arthur wrote:
sex is fun. i dont get the point in this thread...
I think the point of this thread is that OP thinks that having sex, or mayby sexual relationships in general, are given to much emphasis in judging how succesfull someone is. I kind of agree with him, although not really with the sex part but more with the having a boy-/girlfriend paradigm in general. I experience this a lot with old primary / highschool friends of mine. Most of them have hardly any to mediocre education and are currently living at their parents house being unemployed. I on the other hand have a bunch of really fancy degrees, am currently doing a phd, have published and hence added to the knowledge of mankind, am making a bunch of money and traveling the world while doing so. Yet they always ask me if I have a girlfriend yet. And when I answer no they get all sympathetic, like I'm the basketcase here. So apprently something as banal as having a boy- / girlfriend trumps every accomplishment in life. I find this extremely annoying and mayby even slightly worrying. "I have done well in my studies because I don't have girlfriends.
They have done poorly in studies because they have relationships."Please tell me I misunderstood. If I am grasping your mean idea, then you may want to look up "post hoc, ergo propter hoc," and then rethink your assumptions about how relationships effect educational success. Also, one of the single best places to find someone with similar interests is college. You are surrounded by successful women every day in school. You may regret not searching for someone later in life, while you have such a good opportunity in front of you.
Er, how exactly did you come to those conclusions?
Nothing he said suggested any of that.
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Exactly lol, people who are 18+ and haven't had sex yet are typically insecure about it and demonstrate it in one fashion or the other. They make a big deal out of it (ironically) and about how they are special from everyone else because they aren't interested or they just "don't get it". Sometimes they even try to make other people feel bad about doing it.
Then they have sex. All of a sudden things make sense, they feel accepted by the opposite gender, and magically the justifications for virginity disappear. It's not really that simple, but yeah, the point is that virgins believe that sex isn't a big deal right up until they do it themselves.
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My final post in this thread then imma peace.
The way I see sex (before and after this thread) is the thing really bonded couples do. Anything else is for pleasure only (which honestly, sex is probably a bad option).
I think the reason why OP is associating "sex" with the dbagz calling him a loser is because sex is usually with a woman you're dating at the time or whatever. And when you don't have sex because you have no girlfriend it's seen as "bad" since its seen as an indirect sign that you can't get women.
It's in the cases like mine that for multiple reasons choose not to have a girlfriend that people consider "faulty". When they ask me why, I respond with why back. I have great confidence levels, people idolize me, I have many friends, and many people find me awesome to be around. I just feel I don't need one.
So if you already have a girlfriend and are not having sex and people still make you feel down then maybe you should consult a doctor as when you really think about it, sex means nothing in the big picture.
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On July 23 2011 09:48 Keitzer wrote:
My final post in this thread then imma peace.
The way I see sex (before and after this thread) is the thing really bonded couples do. Anything else is for pleasure only (which honestly, sex is probably a bad option).
I think the reason why OP is associating "sex" with the dbagz calling him a loser is because sex is usually with a woman you're dating at the time or whatever. And when you don't have sex because you have no girlfriend it's seen as "bad" since its seen as an indirect sign that you can't get women.
It's in the cases like mine that for multiple reasons choose not to have a girlfriend that people consider "faulty". When they ask me why, I respond with why back. I have great confidence levels, people idolize me, I have many friends, and many people find me awesome to be around. I just feel I don't need one.
So if you already have a girlfriend and are not having sex and people still make you feel down then maybe you should consult a doctor as when you really think about it, sex means nothing in the big picture.
Lol, anyone who needs to tell other people that they are idolized on the internet has severe issues with insecurity. This actually lines up really well with what I already thought. Justifications are so much easier to come up with than the real deal.
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Dude am also 21. Save it. I have been sexualy active for along time. IF i could take it bad I really really would. Save it. Don't worry. Keep being the best person you can be. thats all that matter Homey. Have a good day!
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On July 23 2011 05:36 Keitzer wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2011 05:30 heishe wrote:On July 23 2011 04:35 Keitzer wrote:On July 23 2011 04:18 MadVillain wrote:On July 23 2011 03:55 Keitzer wrote:On July 23 2011 03:38 MadVillain wrote:
I honestly felt the same way as the OP did... until I lost my virginity. There was a girl I liked, told myself to stop being a pussy, talked to her a month or so later she was my girlfriend and we had sex. It was great, we had a lot of sex and I think I've learned some valuable skills.
90% of the time when people say they don't want/need sex they are just bullshitting themselves, I know this from personal experience. I told myself over and over, it doesn't matter you'll do it when the right girl comes blah blah bullshit bullshit. These are people who, like me, weren't confident enough and were too much of a pussy to try and get it. Sex is fun, it is stress relieving, it gives you confidence it really is all positive.
Abstinence is silly in my opinion. Humans naturally have an innate drive to rub there genitals together and denying this really doesn't do anything. The thought that it will be more special if sex is saved for marriage is complete crap.
Sex like all things takes practice to be good at, you think your first time having sex when you're 30 and you just got married is going to be some magical moment? No, it will be a hilariously awkward affair, not knowing foreplay, cuming in 10 secs etc.
Sex is good for you, do it. but... WHY is it good... what benefit do you get from having sex besides not looking like a dumbass when you finally do get married? edit: you mentioned a few things: stress relieving, fun, and confidence. 1. I am stress free already. 2. I have enough in my day that I don't feel the need to add something unnecessary. 3. I am self-motivated and confident enough in myself that I need not participate. Now, if you worked a 9-5 job that your boss was always harping on you about, you come home to a shitty financial situation, and the most fun you can have is by watching some prime-time TV, then ya, go at it. But my problem with this whole "oh, it's great for you!" is that all the so called "benefits" are things that just counter the negatives in one's life. When one (aka, me) has no negatives that it can counter, why do it? I get your point. But... it is a point spoken like a true virgin. I have enough in my day that I don't feel the need to add something unnecessary. Are you really saying that you're too busy to have sex? You're too busy to engage in a very personal, visceral, intimate activity with another human being? Are you saying that you feel nothing when that girl you like walks by looking sexy? This is the mindset of someone who has talked themselves into THINKING they don't want sex. Love-making with someone you care about is anything but unnecessary, it is a very rewarding and fulfilling activity. And you're right, you might not NEED sex. I'm not saying anyone really NEEDS sex, but the benefits I mentioned come ON TOP of what you already have in your life. You might be confident in some respects like your work, school etc, but what about talking to people, talking to girls? Your fitness etc? What I'm saying is I believe sex can enhance your life, even if you think your life is already good. No i'm definitely not too busy. Yes I do "feel something", but don't care enough to go after it. ya cool, sex can add things to my life (things you listed), but how does it help me achieve my end goal at either a faster or more efficient rate (be a multi-millionaire)? well then maybe it goes even deeper than that... (which is getting off topic) which is that I see no use for a girlfriend either. Not saying I'm not attracted to women (which holy shit yes I am), just that there isn't enough of a persuasive reason to get a girlfriend. My friends have one because they want that emotional attraction, which I don't feel. If your only goal is to be a multi-millionaire, then you probably won't ever understand why people like sex just for the sake of having sex. There's no logical answer to your question. What advantage does sex have? Well, it has some nice side effects like releasing endorphines when you orgasm and other biochemical stuff like that, but that's probably not what you're talking about when you ask for why sex is good. It just feels good and is one of the most fulfilling things that most humans can do. For you it isn't like that and money is probably more fulfilling to you, and that's fine, that's just the way you are. But there's no need to argue about it since nobody will be able to explain it to you. How would somebody explain to you how strawberries taste if you haven't ever eaten a fruit in your life? FINALLY! Someone who else who sides with the FACT that sex only adds physical pleasure to your life. Now, not saying I wouldn't MIND the pleasure, but the risks involved, the time it takes to find "the one" and the little gain you actually get from it, not worth it IMO.
I know I'm just a random internet denizen, but you need to trust me on this one.
You're only saying that because you've never had sex. Unless you are asexual (which is a psychological disorder) or you haven't gone through puberty yet, you have an innate sex drive. As soon as you have sex you're going to realize what you're missing and how it doesn't just had physical pleasure but a whole lot more.
I would hazard a guess that you've never touched a girl in a sexual manner, probably haven't even kissed one. Now if you are a straight male eventually you're going to have a strong urge for female companionship that is more than just friends, that is pretty much a fact.
Through much of highschool I felt exactly as you did, I told myself exactly what you're telling yourself that "sex is just something people do, doesn't matter for anything I'll just spend my time some other way blah blah" Then I met a girl who I really liked and decided to come out of my figurative shell, decied to become more social etc etc and eventually had sex. It was great and made me realize I was tricking myself.
I'll understand if you don't listen to me because when I was in your situation I felt the same way. It is a very bitter mindset and is actually detrimental. I don't know how old you are but I suggest losing the V card sooner rather than later. You say you're going to wait for that special girl, but why do you think you're going to be able to get that girl if you can't get any girls now? You think life will just lead you to the girl of your dreams? No it won't you need to create opportunities and your mindset now won't ever lead to sex. It will lead to 40 year old virgin status.
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I had my first time around 18, also rather late. Now I'm 25. Imo its fine, fun, etc. But its highly overrated when you are younger, the pressure building up, people talking about it all the time. But I guess thats because it was new to one then...
Nowadays I'm having sex more or less regularly (more when im with someone, less when single ofc) and well, it's nice, but people stop talking about it all the time once u get over a certain age, around my friends it was around 22-23 when everyone had had sex regularly. It's just no big deal anymore after some time...
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People who brag about having sex or losing their virginity early are the losers. They obviously have low self-esteem.
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On July 23 2011 10:22 Gnax wrote:
People who brag about having sex or losing their virginity early are the losers. They obviously have low self-esteem.
This is true.
And people who talk about how they don't need sex, how society looks down upon them for being a virgin, and how sex doesn't matter at all in life most likely also have low self esteem.
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I find this Keitzer guy funny...  Why denying the usefulness of sex so heavily when it actually doesn't matter to you? And since you masturbate I can't imagine you wouldn't enjoy sex. Do you dislike the usual social interaction before it so much or whats exactly the point? I guess even paying for it is more pleasure then doing it yourself (which will be easy to pay, since u r going to be a billionaire... ).
btw. I'm really wondering about your age. Just because I don't know anyone around my age or older with your mindset...
Btw. what do you get from becoming a billionaire? 
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