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On July 23 2011 05:30 heishe wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2011 04:35 Keitzer wrote:On July 23 2011 04:18 MadVillain wrote:On July 23 2011 03:55 Keitzer wrote:On July 23 2011 03:38 MadVillain wrote:
I honestly felt the same way as the OP did... until I lost my virginity. There was a girl I liked, told myself to stop being a pussy, talked to her a month or so later she was my girlfriend and we had sex. It was great, we had a lot of sex and I think I've learned some valuable skills.
90% of the time when people say they don't want/need sex they are just bullshitting themselves, I know this from personal experience. I told myself over and over, it doesn't matter you'll do it when the right girl comes blah blah bullshit bullshit. These are people who, like me, weren't confident enough and were too much of a pussy to try and get it. Sex is fun, it is stress relieving, it gives you confidence it really is all positive.
Abstinence is silly in my opinion. Humans naturally have an innate drive to rub there genitals together and denying this really doesn't do anything. The thought that it will be more special if sex is saved for marriage is complete crap.
Sex like all things takes practice to be good at, you think your first time having sex when you're 30 and you just got married is going to be some magical moment? No, it will be a hilariously awkward affair, not knowing foreplay, cuming in 10 secs etc.
Sex is good for you, do it. but... WHY is it good... what benefit do you get from having sex besides not looking like a dumbass when you finally do get married? edit: you mentioned a few things: stress relieving, fun, and confidence. 1. I am stress free already. 2. I have enough in my day that I don't feel the need to add something unnecessary. 3. I am self-motivated and confident enough in myself that I need not participate. Now, if you worked a 9-5 job that your boss was always harping on you about, you come home to a shitty financial situation, and the most fun you can have is by watching some prime-time TV, then ya, go at it. But my problem with this whole "oh, it's great for you!" is that all the so called "benefits" are things that just counter the negatives in one's life. When one (aka, me) has no negatives that it can counter, why do it? I get your point. But... it is a point spoken like a true virgin. I have enough in my day that I don't feel the need to add something unnecessary. Are you really saying that you're too busy to have sex? You're too busy to engage in a very personal, visceral, intimate activity with another human being? Are you saying that you feel nothing when that girl you like walks by looking sexy? This is the mindset of someone who has talked themselves into THINKING they don't want sex. Love-making with someone you care about is anything but unnecessary, it is a very rewarding and fulfilling activity. And you're right, you might not NEED sex. I'm not saying anyone really NEEDS sex, but the benefits I mentioned come ON TOP of what you already have in your life. You might be confident in some respects like your work, school etc, but what about talking to people, talking to girls? Your fitness etc? What I'm saying is I believe sex can enhance your life, even if you think your life is already good. No i'm definitely not too busy. Yes I do "feel something", but don't care enough to go after it. ya cool, sex can add things to my life (things you listed), but how does it help me achieve my end goal at either a faster or more efficient rate (be a multi-millionaire)? well then maybe it goes even deeper than that... (which is getting off topic) which is that I see no use for a girlfriend either. Not saying I'm not attracted to women (which holy shit yes I am), just that there isn't enough of a persuasive reason to get a girlfriend. My friends have one because they want that emotional attraction, which I don't feel. If your only goal is to be a multi-millionaire, then you probably won't ever understand why people like sex just for the sake of having sex. There's no logical answer to your question. What advantage does sex have? Well, it has some nice side effects like releasing endorphines when you orgasm and other biochemical stuff like that, but that's probably not what you're talking about when you ask for why sex is good. It just feels good and is one of the most fulfilling things that most humans can do. For you it isn't like that and money is probably more fulfilling to you, and that's fine, that's just the way you are. But there's no need to argue about it since nobody will be able to explain it to you. How would somebody explain to you how strawberries taste if you haven't ever eaten a fruit in your life?
FINALLY! Someone who else who sides with the FACT that sex only adds physical pleasure to your life.
Now, not saying I wouldn't MIND the pleasure, but the risks involved, the time it takes to find "the one" and the little gain you actually get from it, not worth it IMO.
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How can people say things like "I already have fun, it's not a necessity for me, I don't need it" - especially if they have never had it.
It's not the point of needing it, it's the point of wanting to do it. Fucking and chucking is where it is at it's simplest form, still amazing but it has no depth, very fun. Doing it with a girlfriend/boyfriend is something that will blow your mind.
Make sure you save that v-card for someone you really love though and remember marriage isn't a requirement for love.
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On July 23 2011 05:36 rea1ity wrote:
How can people say things like "I already have fun, it's not a necessity for me, I don't need it" - especially if they have never had it.
No reason = No sex.
Have sex = reason obtained to have sex.
So having sex is the only way to see the reason to have sex? Hwah?
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On July 23 2011 05:39 Keitzer wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2011 05:36 rea1ity wrote:
How can people say things like "I already have fun, it's not a necessity for me, I don't need it" - especially if they have never had it. No reason = No sex. Have sex = reason obtained to have sex. So having sex is the only way to see the reason to have sex? Hwah?
I said don't say you have viable alternatives for it, even more so if you have never had it.
Is that such a difficult concept to grasp?
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On July 23 2011 05:45 rea1ity wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2011 05:39 Keitzer wrote:On July 23 2011 05:36 rea1ity wrote:
How can people say things like "I already have fun, it's not a necessity for me, I don't need it" - especially if they have never had it. No reason = No sex. Have sex = reason obtained to have sex. So having sex is the only way to see the reason to have sex? Hwah? I said don't say you have viable alternatives for it, even more so if you have never had it. Is that such a difficult concept to grasp?
No, i was just confused on your wording.
And that whole "it's not need, but wanting" bit is the WHOLE point of the OP.... Why does it seem that it's a requirement in society when it should be a want.
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On July 23 2011 05:46 Keitzer wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2011 05:45 rea1ity wrote:On July 23 2011 05:39 Keitzer wrote:On July 23 2011 05:36 rea1ity wrote:
How can people say things like "I already have fun, it's not a necessity for me, I don't need it" - especially if they have never had it. No reason = No sex. Have sex = reason obtained to have sex. So having sex is the only way to see the reason to have sex? Hwah? I said don't say you have viable alternatives for it, even more so if you have never had it. Is that such a difficult concept to grasp? No, i was just confused on your wording. And that whole "it's not need, but wanting" bit is the WHOLE point of the OP.... Why does it seem that it's a requirement in society when it should be a want.
Well it's only a requirement for people under the age of 16 (in friend circles) in order to gain some kind of social status I guess. I feel the general consensus is that adults couldn't care less about other adults sex lives.
It is a want, and some people may seem shocked at your decisions to not have it but I don't see any pressure to have it if you're not in high school and surrounded by tools.
Besides, you will be respected more by most girls 18+ if you are a virgin (assuming they know this because you are intimately close to them)...
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I had sex (oral and finger'ed her) when I was 6 with another girl. beat that!
guess I was just too young to feel all that great about it cause it didn't feel like shit to me.
but I haven't had sex since and I'm 21 now.
So 3 questions.
1.Technically am I still a virgin?
2.was I too young to see all the benefits of it?
3.am I still considered loser to the dbagz out there? ;_;
Edit: I didn't ejaculate in her so I didn't get all those good sex chemicals going. 
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On July 23 2011 05:53 JuanR wrote:
I had sex (oral and finger'ed her) when I was 6 with another girl. beat that!
guess I was just too young to feel all that great about it cause it didn't feel like shit to me.
but I haven't had sex since and I'm 21 now.
So 3 questions.
1.Technically am I still a virgin?
2.was I too young to see all the benefits of it?
3.am I still considered loser to the dbagz out there? ;_;
1. Yes
2. Yes
3. Who cares? dbagz will be dbagz
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On July 22 2011 11:43 Triscuit wrote:
It's usually not the fact that you're a virgin that people look down on. I think the perception is more that you don't have sex because you're a loser, not that you're a loser because you don't have sex.
I'm not saying anything about you personally. I would probably still be a virgin right now if I didn't find my girlfriend 4 years ago. I just don't make friends with females that easily because I tend to look at things very logically and that's abrasive as fuck to a lot of people, specifically females.
This.
In a lot of cases: you aren't a loser because you're a virgin, but you're probably a virgin because you're a loser.
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On July 23 2011 05:53 JuanR wrote:I had sex (oral and finger'ed her) when I was 6 with another girl. beat that! guess I was just too young to feel all that great about it cause it didn't feel like shit to me. but I haven't had sex since and I'm 21 now. So 3 questions. 1.Technically am I still a virgin? 2.was I too young to see all the benefits of it? 3.am I still considered loser to the dbagz out there? ;_; Edit: I didn't ejaculate in her so I didn't get all those good sex chemicals going.
1. Yes
2. Yes
3. No, but you are in fact one of those dbagz for relating,and bragging, about a 6-year-old "exploration" experience to something that other people your age do....
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Think of it like Sentries. You generally want a lot in the early game, and a decent amount in your composition throughout the mid to late game. And in the hands of a pro, they're really fucking effective.
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Sex is a lot of fun, and gets better as you get older and you and your partners become more experienced at figuring out how to do it right and get more comfortable doing it. Nobody is a sex god the first time out.
But, you don't want to show up to the big leagues without a single game under your belt. The stress alone of maintaining your virginity, just for the sake of it, which doesn't even fucking matter to anybody, isn't worth it. People don't get more impressed the longer you hold out, and if you manage to get into your mid-to-late 20s, still a virgin, you're going to have even WORSE psychological hang-ups about approaching women.
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On July 23 2011 06:00 CaptainCrush wrote:3. No, but you are in fact one of those dbagz for relating,and bragging, about a 6-year-old "exploration" experience to something that other people your age do....
I knew I shouldn't have added that to the post, it was my weak jab to all the people going "I had it was 12-17", thank you.
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On July 23 2011 06:07 Bibdy wrote:
Sex is a lot of fun, and gets better as you get older and you and your partners become more experienced at figuring out how to do it right and get more comfortable doing it. Nobody is a sex god the first time out.
But, you don't want to show up to the big leagues without a single game under your belt. The stress alone of maintaining your virginity, just for the sake of it, which doesn't even fucking matter to anybody, isn't worth it. People don't get more impressed the longer you hold out, so if you have the chance, get it over with.
stress of maintaining it? are you horny even as you typed that?
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On July 23 2011 06:08 Keitzer wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2011 06:07 Bibdy wrote:
Sex is a lot of fun, and gets better as you get older and you and your partners become more experienced at figuring out how to do it right and get more comfortable doing it. Nobody is a sex god the first time out.
But, you don't want to show up to the big leagues without a single game under your belt. The stress alone of maintaining your virginity, just for the sake of it, which doesn't even fucking matter to anybody, isn't worth it. People don't get more impressed the longer you hold out, so if you have the chance, get it over with. stress of maintaining it? are you horny even as you typed that?
I'm talking about the psychological stresses of being a virgin, not just being horny. When you're a virgin, you're always thinking about how it'll happen, when it'll happen, why it hasn't happened and yada yada. After your first time, that stress is gone.
Sex is the most important thing in the world, until you've done it once.
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On July 23 2011 06:11 Bibdy wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2011 06:08 Keitzer wrote:On July 23 2011 06:07 Bibdy wrote:
Sex is a lot of fun, and gets better as you get older and you and your partners become more experienced at figuring out how to do it right and get more comfortable doing it. Nobody is a sex god the first time out.
But, you don't want to show up to the big leagues without a single game under your belt. The stress alone of maintaining your virginity, just for the sake of it, which doesn't even fucking matter to anybody, isn't worth it. People don't get more impressed the longer you hold out, so if you have the chance, get it over with. stress of maintaining it? are you horny even as you typed that? I'm talking about the psychological stresses of being a virgin, not just being horny. When you're a virgin, you're always thinking about how it'll happen, when it'll happen, why it hasn't happened and yada yada. After your first time, that stress is gone.
ya, i don't think that at all, but ok, lolol
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After the first time I had sex, when I was 17, I was quite disappointed. It's not all that. It's sex, that's it. It's not going to change your life. If your life sucks, sex is not going to make it awesome. Sex is sex.
I do enjoy occasional sex though.
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On July 23 2011 06:11 Arnstein wrote:
After the first time I had sex, when I was 17, I was quite disappointed. It's not all that. It's sex, that's it. It's not going to change your life. If your life sucks, sex is not going to make it awesome. Sex is sex.
I do enjoy occasional sex though.
Exactly what I'M trying to say... sex is (apparently) enjoyable, but not that go-get-em thing you need to add to your life.
For example, food. You need food, although ya it's fucking tasty most of the time, it's usually not why you're eating it. Which is why I don't do things just because I can (or b/c it's just fun).
I play Starcraft because it enhances my multitasking ability as well as it being a challenge, and I like challenges.
Entire point of OP.
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On July 23 2011 05:36 rea1ity wrote:
How can people say things like "I already have fun, it's not a necessity for me, I don't need it" - especially if they have never had it.
It's not the point of needing it, it's the point of wanting to do it. Fucking and chucking is where it is at it's simplest form, still amazing but it has no depth, very fun. Doing it with a girlfriend/boyfriend is something that will blow your mind.
I'm on the pro-sex side of things, but this same line of reasoning could be used for drugs. So I get what you're saying, but while sex is harmless to you, others see it as a bigger deal.
Ever had sex while on E? Same deal. You could say "don't knock it til you've tried it", but for some people it's not worth the risk, etc etc
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i thought i come here to tell you some things about me.
i am currently a 21 (bout to be 22 in sept) male who up until now has only engage in oral sex and that was a while ago. i am not religious (at least not super religious) and do not believe in saving myself for marriage.
but since i am kinda a bleeding heart (the type who believe in soul mates and all) i just really want my first time to be with someone i truly love. i fantasize about meeting that one person whom i am meant to be with. and because of that i feel no (true) urge to go out and sleep with the next person i see.
because of this my not so close friends see me as A-Sexual...and tend to not bring up crazy sex topics with me. but people who really know me understand i am waiting to fall in love.
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