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UNeeK
Profile Joined January 2011
United States237 Posts
July 22 2011 17:45 GMT
#381
sex is balanced.


/thread
Wrongspeedy
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1655 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-22 17:48:03
July 22 2011 17:46 GMT
#382
+ Show Spoiler +
On July 23 2011 02:42 Surrealz wrote:
if you have to make a thread about it then you are probably second guessing your "decision" to not have sex. if its such a big deal then just do it. if its not a big deal, well then you wouldn't have made a thread. this is 19 pages of people trying to make one liners convincing themselves that sex isnt "worth it". Its a pretty quick and fun process, its not really a big deal either way until reproduction gets added to the tangle.

Sex is a basic motive of being human, the sex drive is stronger in some than others, so its really just a personal decision.

And honestly who cares? Other people not having sex just means more girls for me. there is nothing to debate here. There is no advantage to holding on to sex, and its been proven that if you have sex/jerk it on the reg you are less likely to get cancer cause you keep stuff flowin in your "pipes"


Did you read the 19 pages? And WTF... < My first 1 liner

Lol I can see the cover of Time Magazine with some redfaced stranger on it reading "Wanking the CURE!"
It is better to be a human dissatisfied than a pig satisfied; better to be Socrates dissatisfied than a fool satisfied.- John Stuart Mill
MepHiii
Profile Joined March 2011
Poland191 Posts
July 22 2011 17:47 GMT
#383
it's weird that these kind of topics are not much more often being created by people who have had sex themselves and realised that you just don't feel different when you've done it, isn't it?
badboymav
Profile Joined June 2010
Australia74 Posts
July 22 2011 17:49 GMT
#384
its a simple fact of life, you aren't a man until you've had sex... but life goes on
Too many idiots, not enough bullets
Jago
Profile Joined October 2010
Finland390 Posts
July 22 2011 17:49 GMT
#385
On July 23 2011 02:37 ninini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2011 02:03 Jago wrote:
On July 23 2011 01:54 ninini wrote:
On July 23 2011 01:41 Jago wrote:
On July 23 2011 01:38 ninini wrote:
On July 23 2011 01:23 OutlaW- wrote:
On July 23 2011 01:21 ninini wrote:
Why would anyone want to have sex with someone for the simple reason that "it feels good"? With the same logic you should also be a drug addict. We have a strong sex drive because we're supposed to cross mountains for the right person. So, if we deplete our sexual drive regularly, we decrease our chances of finding that person.

Don't waste your sexuality.

I'll gladly interfere with your argument. Everyone would be a drug addict if it had no negative effects on the body, which sex, outside of rare illnesses that you can avoid, doesn't have, and was free, like sex is.

You don't have to be a brain surgeon to realize that someone who lives a life with no sexual gratification would be more driven in their pursuit of a partner compared to someone who have sex and/or masturbate regularly. And you write this off as "no negative effect". Wow.

I sincerely hope you're just trolling, because you've got that completely backwards. Saving yourself for marriage is the thing that carries negative effect. Someone who lives a life with no sexual gratification is much more likely to be frustrated and depressed.

I'm not talking about saving yourself for marriage. I'm talking about preserving your sexuality, which is something you can do inbetween relationships.

Please explain exactly what do you mean by "preserving your sexuality" and why should one be doing this?

Preserving your sexuality means to not have sex or masturbate for a long period, well that's what I meant anyway. I know just by hearing your thoughts on the matter that you have never experienced this for a long time, like over a year. (your pre/early teens doesn't count btw)

And because you haven't tried this for over a year, you don't know how it affects a person. Well, I have tried both sides, so I know how it feels different. First of all, it doesn't make your sexuality die out. It's actually the opposite and you're chasing girls more than ever. Secondly, it doesn't make you horny non-stop. Being horny is not a product of your sexuality, it's a withdrawal symptom from having regular orgasms, which basically is a drug.

You haven't explained why doing this would make any sense whatsoever.
PhysicsCat
Profile Joined June 2011
Korea (South)15 Posts
July 22 2011 17:56 GMT
#386
OP, you state that you aren't a loser, and then you give all the reasons for why you are. In the OP you state "I am a virgin because fate has not allowed me to experience it."

Meaning, if the opportunity provided itself for you, you would hop on the bandwagon. But because there is no opportunity, you don't want to make one for yourself.

See, that's why you are a loser and will always remain one. It's not about sex or anything of that matter.

It's about the fact that people who aren't losers, they always know what they want, and they make sure to get it.

Enjoy spending the rest of your life being a passive loser.
ninini
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden1204 Posts
July 22 2011 18:03 GMT
#387
On July 23 2011 02:49 Jago wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2011 02:37 ninini wrote:
On July 23 2011 02:03 Jago wrote:
On July 23 2011 01:54 ninini wrote:
On July 23 2011 01:41 Jago wrote:
On July 23 2011 01:38 ninini wrote:
On July 23 2011 01:23 OutlaW- wrote:
On July 23 2011 01:21 ninini wrote:
Why would anyone want to have sex with someone for the simple reason that "it feels good"? With the same logic you should also be a drug addict. We have a strong sex drive because we're supposed to cross mountains for the right person. So, if we deplete our sexual drive regularly, we decrease our chances of finding that person.

Don't waste your sexuality.

I'll gladly interfere with your argument. Everyone would be a drug addict if it had no negative effects on the body, which sex, outside of rare illnesses that you can avoid, doesn't have, and was free, like sex is.

You don't have to be a brain surgeon to realize that someone who lives a life with no sexual gratification would be more driven in their pursuit of a partner compared to someone who have sex and/or masturbate regularly. And you write this off as "no negative effect". Wow.

I sincerely hope you're just trolling, because you've got that completely backwards. Saving yourself for marriage is the thing that carries negative effect. Someone who lives a life with no sexual gratification is much more likely to be frustrated and depressed.

I'm not talking about saving yourself for marriage. I'm talking about preserving your sexuality, which is something you can do inbetween relationships.

Please explain exactly what do you mean by "preserving your sexuality" and why should one be doing this?

Preserving your sexuality means to not have sex or masturbate for a long period, well that's what I meant anyway. I know just by hearing your thoughts on the matter that you have never experienced this for a long time, like over a year. (your pre/early teens doesn't count btw)

And because you haven't tried this for over a year, you don't know how it affects a person. Well, I have tried both sides, so I know how it feels different. First of all, it doesn't make your sexuality die out. It's actually the opposite and you're chasing girls more than ever. Secondly, it doesn't make you horny non-stop. Being horny is not a product of your sexuality, it's a withdrawal symptom from having regular orgasms, which basically is a drug.

You haven't explained why doing this would make any sense whatsoever.

Because by not having sex or actions that the body registers as sex, your sexual energy is peaking at all times, which makes you more interested in the opposite sex in general, which increases your chances of finding someone you want to keep, and also leads to personal development, because by having a stable sexual energy, finding a partner is not just a need, but also a goal, something you have to work towards. On top of that, you don't have to deal with the withdrawal symptoms.
antelope591
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada820 Posts
July 22 2011 18:03 GMT
#388
People saying sex is overrated have clearly never done it with anyone else except a handful of random females...or their s/o have no idea what theyre doing. I've been in both boats and yes relationship sex is the best thing ever and not overrated. I feel bad for all of u missing out on it. That being said theres no need to rush...how much better can sex be than masturbation when ur like 15? Lol

cocosoft
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden1068 Posts
July 22 2011 18:05 GMT
#389
On July 22 2011 11:46 Warp wrote:
I bet you are christian or some other sort of religious person.. there is nothing wrong with wanting to "save" your first time for until your married.. seriously its absolutely fine, because its the way you were born and raised. Christians tend to also follow the path best satisfying "God" and sometimes this means abstaining.

I repreat, there is nothing wrong with it and it doesn't make you a "loser." The people who will call you a "loser" are not going to be successful.. thats fact.

However, you ummmm mighttt be a little bit of a loser if you are still a virgin not because you abstain, but because you can't get any. But i somehow get the drift that you simply don't want it and thats fine
This must be one of the worst posts I've seen on teamliquid, seriously....
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Darclite
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1021 Posts
July 22 2011 18:05 GMT
#390
On July 23 2011 02:49 badboymav wrote:
its a simple fact of life, you aren't a man until you've had sex... but life goes on


Sorry I need to quote something from Dragon Age 2:

Emile: Tonight, she's going to make me a man!
Merrill: That seems unlikely. It's all about having the right bits to begin with.
They're fools. You should eat them.
Dekoth
Profile Joined March 2010
United States527 Posts
July 22 2011 18:12 GMT
#391
On July 23 2011 03:03 antelope591 wrote:
People saying sex is overrated have clearly never done it with anyone else except a handful of random females...or their s/o have no idea what theyre doing. I've been in both boats and yes relationship sex is the best thing ever and not overrated. I feel bad for all of u missing out on it. That being said theres no need to rush...how much better can sex be than masturbation when ur like 15? Lol




Married for 13 years in sept..I find sex overrated. How does that fit into your equation? Sometimes it is great, sometimes it is just a hassle. Is relationship sex good? For certain..the best thing ever? not by a long shot.

Obviously everyone has a different opinion is the point of the above. It goes back to my original point of not allowing anyone else to tell you that their experience is the one you need or will have. Everyones experience is determined exclusively by them.
ToxNub
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada805 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-22 18:19:02
July 22 2011 18:18 GMT
#392
On July 23 2011 02:03 Wrongspeedy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2011 01:56 ToxNub wrote:
Sex is definitely OP. It's a cultural obsession, which I think, ironically, would go away if people just got laid more. People would be more relaxed about it, stop making it such a big deal, and then we could all go on with our lives. As long as people are trying to construct rules about who/how/when it should happen we're only going to make people want it more. We're wired to want it, and complicating it only makes us want it more.

I'm not as understanding as the rest of the thread. If you're 21 and you haven't been laid, then something is wrong. Not morally wrong, just that you're a statistical outlier. Ok, so maybe you haven't met a girl worth it yet, fine. But, also, maybe you're just chicken, or bad with women, or whatever. Not all reasons are equally valid It's not the sex that you should worry about, it is the "why"s you should worry about
.


Maybe your just an ass-hole?(I'm juuuuuuuust kidddding sheesh) But I don't need to post that on a forum do I

I really just wanted to ask what statistics am I outlaying from? I thought like 100% of all statistics on the internet were true.


Average age is 17, and 47.8% of US high school students reported having had sexual intercourse.

according to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolescent_sexuality_in_the_United_States
HellRoxYa
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden1614 Posts
July 22 2011 18:20 GMT
#393
On July 22 2011 11:42 ClysmiC wrote:
I've always had the following view on sex: Save it till you meet your wife and it will be a million times more satisfying than it would be just hooking up with some random girls.

Show nested quote +
The only other option is you are super religious and haven't ever seen a beautiful women

Or he has been tempted just like everyone else, but has the self-control to make the smarter choice.


Ever cross your mind that you can do both?
doss
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada137 Posts
July 22 2011 18:23 GMT
#394
Sex is not that important on a day to day basis:

At least not important enough for it to have a value system implemented in society. If you look at the biological and physiological effects of sex, for males it's basically meaningless. Men do not release near the amount of 'attachment hormones' that females do, and the way the male brain works, it does not 'rewire' to attache to another individual with significance. Females however, have systems in place where when they have sex they feel attachment towards their partner. This means that it can be dangerous for a female to have sex with an individual before she is ready, because she may be lulled into falling for someone who normally she wouldn't.

Another risk sex adds is the world of STI's, but that is meaningless to me, as mostly everything can be prevented.

Boils down to simple risk/reward to me: is the pleasurable feeling of sex worth the risks of attachment and sexually transmitted infections?

Yeah, it is. There's no point to wait or delay your first sexual experience really. If there was a situation where delay would make gratification stronger, then there'd be an argument for it. I think that the whole idea of abstinence is just a remnant of religious and societal control over females, which is now being thrown around disguised as a moral dilemma.
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Wrongspeedy
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1655 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-22 18:30:28
July 22 2011 18:25 GMT
#395
On July 23 2011 03:18 ToxNub wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2011 02:03 Wrongspeedy wrote:
On July 23 2011 01:56 ToxNub wrote:
Sex is definitely OP. It's a cultural obsession, which I think, ironically, would go away if people just got laid more. People would be more relaxed about it, stop making it such a big deal, and then we could all go on with our lives. As long as people are trying to construct rules about who/how/when it should happen we're only going to make people want it more. We're wired to want it, and complicating it only makes us want it more.

I'm not as understanding as the rest of the thread. If you're 21 and you haven't been laid, then something is wrong. Not morally wrong, just that you're a statistical outlier. Ok, so maybe you haven't met a girl worth it yet, fine. But, also, maybe you're just chicken, or bad with women, or whatever. Not all reasons are equally valid It's not the sex that you should worry about, it is the "why"s you should worry about
.


Maybe your just an ass-hole?(I'm juuuuuuuust kidddding sheesh) But I don't need to post that on a forum do I

I really just wanted to ask what statistics am I outlaying from? I thought like 100% of all statistics on the internet were true.


Average age is 17, and 47.8% of US high school students reported having had sexual intercourse.

according to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolescent_sexuality_in_the_United_States


And you believe what teenagers put on those tests....................... I live in the U.S. probably participated in that, could have lied and said I was black, smoked cigarettes, drank alcohol, and smoked weed. Nothing to prevent me from putting that shit down. NOTHING. Its not like they go through them all with a biological profile of your life history and go "well thats not accurate!" If you ever went to middle school you know thats bs, half the kids lie about dumb things and some of them just find it funny to put redic information down, which means that any good information your getting is crap too. Oh and 48 percent is less than 52 if you were wondering, you statistical anomaly you .
It is better to be a human dissatisfied than a pig satisfied; better to be Socrates dissatisfied than a fool satisfied.- John Stuart Mill
pxL.
Profile Joined April 2011
Austria6 Posts
July 22 2011 18:28 GMT
#396
get off your computer, go outside and live your life :o nerd.
ToxNub
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada805 Posts
July 22 2011 18:31 GMT
#397
On July 23 2011 03:25 Wrongspeedy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2011 03:18 ToxNub wrote:
On July 23 2011 02:03 Wrongspeedy wrote:
On July 23 2011 01:56 ToxNub wrote:
Sex is definitely OP. It's a cultural obsession, which I think, ironically, would go away if people just got laid more. People would be more relaxed about it, stop making it such a big deal, and then we could all go on with our lives. As long as people are trying to construct rules about who/how/when it should happen we're only going to make people want it more. We're wired to want it, and complicating it only makes us want it more.

I'm not as understanding as the rest of the thread. If you're 21 and you haven't been laid, then something is wrong. Not morally wrong, just that you're a statistical outlier. Ok, so maybe you haven't met a girl worth it yet, fine. But, also, maybe you're just chicken, or bad with women, or whatever. Not all reasons are equally valid It's not the sex that you should worry about, it is the "why"s you should worry about
.


Maybe your just an ass-hole?(I'm juuuuuuuust kidddding sheesh) But I don't need to post that on a forum do I

I really just wanted to ask what statistics am I outlaying from? I thought like 100% of all statistics on the internet were true.


Average age is 17, and 47.8% of US high school students reported having had sexual intercourse.

according to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolescent_sexuality_in_the_United_States


And you believe what teenagers put on those tests....................... I live in the U.S. probably participated in that, could have lied and said I was black, smoked cigarettes, drank alcohol, and smoked weed. Nothing to prevent me from putting that shit down. NOTHING. Its not like they go through them all with a biological profile of your life history and go "well thats not accurate!" If you ever went to middle school you know thats bs, half the kids lie about dumb things and some of them just find it funny to put redic information down, which means that any good information your getting is crap too.


Certainly some people will lie, but you're the one that is going to need to provide statistics to say that most or all of them would, if you're basing your argument on that. I lost mine at 19. My girlfriend was 17. Most of my friends lost it before that. You can believe it or not, it doesn't matter. I don't think it's a big deal either way. What really matters if you are sexual yet or not. If you do have sexual urges, but you're not having sex, why? Are those reasons healthy? If yes, great. If not, then figure out how to get help. This is the same thing any counselor or psychologist will tell you.
shinosai
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1577 Posts
July 22 2011 18:33 GMT
#398
Hmm. I think sex is definitely overrated. The sex drive is just a feeling. It fades away after every orgasm, at least for guys. It can definitely be fun, especially with the right person. But after that moment of glory, it goes back to not mattering anymore.

Really, I think the sex drive isn't much different from all our other drives. We want more income, but no matter how much more we get we still aren't satisfied. The same with sex... you will never be satisfied. Except for that moment. And you can get to that moment in an infinite number of ways.
Be versatile, know when to retreat, and carry a big gun.
MadVillain
Profile Joined June 2010
United States402 Posts
July 22 2011 18:38 GMT
#399
I honestly felt the same way as the OP did... until I lost my virginity. There was a girl I liked, told myself to stop being a pussy, talked to her a month or so later she was my girlfriend and we had sex. It was great, we had a lot of sex and I think I've learned some valuable skills.

90% of the time when people say they don't want/need sex they are just bullshitting themselves, I know this from personal experience. I told myself over and over, it doesn't matter you'll do it when the right girl comes blah blah bullshit bullshit. These are people who, like me, weren't confident enough and were too much of a pussy to try and get it. Sex is fun, it is stress relieving, it gives you confidence it really is all positive.

Abstinence is silly in my opinion. Humans naturally have an innate drive to rub there genitals together and denying this really doesn't do anything. The thought that it will be more special if sex is saved for marriage is complete crap.

Sex like all things takes practice to be good at, you think your first time having sex when you're 30 and you just got married is going to be some magical moment? No, it will be a hilariously awkward affair, not knowing foreplay, cuming in 10 secs etc.

Sex is good for you, do it.
For The Swarm!
Keitzer
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2509 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-22 19:02:09
July 22 2011 18:55 GMT
#400
On July 23 2011 03:38 MadVillain wrote:
I honestly felt the same way as the OP did... until I lost my virginity. There was a girl I liked, told myself to stop being a pussy, talked to her a month or so later she was my girlfriend and we had sex. It was great, we had a lot of sex and I think I've learned some valuable skills.

90% of the time when people say they don't want/need sex they are just bullshitting themselves, I know this from personal experience. I told myself over and over, it doesn't matter you'll do it when the right girl comes blah blah bullshit bullshit. These are people who, like me, weren't confident enough and were too much of a pussy to try and get it. Sex is fun, it is stress relieving, it gives you confidence it really is all positive.

Abstinence is silly in my opinion. Humans naturally have an innate drive to rub there genitals together and denying this really doesn't do anything. The thought that it will be more special if sex is saved for marriage is complete crap.

Sex like all things takes practice to be good at, you think your first time having sex when you're 30 and you just got married is going to be some magical moment? No, it will be a hilariously awkward affair, not knowing foreplay, cuming in 10 secs etc.

Sex is good for you, do it.


but... WHY is it good... what benefit do you get from having sex besides not looking like a dumbass when you finally do get married?

edit: you mentioned a few things: stress relieving, fun, and confidence.

1. I am stress free already.
2. I have enough in my day that I don't feel the need to add something unnecessary.
3. I am self-motivated and confident enough in myself that I need not participate.

Now, if you worked a 9-5 job that your boss was always harping on you about, you come home to a shitty financial situation, and the most fun you can have is by watching some prime-time TV, then ya, go at it. But my problem with this whole "oh, it's great for you!" is that all the so called "benefits" are things that just counter the negatives in one's life. When one (aka, me) has no negatives that it can counter, why do it?
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