EPTDon't waste your sexuality.
Sex = OP in society? - Page 18
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ninini
Sweden1204 Posts
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OutlaW-
Czech Republic5053 Posts
On July 23 2011 01:21 ninini wrote: Why would anyone want to have sex with someone for the simple reason that "it feels good"? With the same logic you should also be a drug addict. We have a strong sex drive because we're supposed to cross mountains for the right person. So, if we deplete our sexual drive regularly, we decrease our chances of finding that person. Don't waste your sexuality. I'll gladly interfere with your argument. Everyone would be a drug addict if it had no negative effects on the body, which sex, outside of rare illnesses that you can avoid, doesn't have, and was free, like sex is. | ||
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theBALLS
Singapore2935 Posts
On July 23 2011 01:13 Diks wrote: Yes but maybe guilt-issues should be resolved before marriage. If you find a girl you love and you want to be married with, what's wrong with having sex before marriage ? Well one reason for the guilt, for me, would be I feel guilty that I have had sex with a girl before she was married. Because personally, I would very much rather that my wife not have been, shall we say, ravaged, prior to my first time with her. Likewise, I do not want to do it with someone to whom I may not marry because I don't want to be the guy that has fooled around with her before "handing" her over to her future spouse. And even if I was already engaged to her, I would think, why not just wait a while longer till when we're actually married? It would feel much more special to me. Well this is just very Asian, just my personal pov. | ||
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LarJarsE
United States1378 Posts
On July 23 2011 01:08 theBALLS wrote: I am saving myself for marriage. And yes, I do believe it will be better. Because to me, I would be doing it guilt-free, and guilt-free always feels better, no? obvious troll account made for this thread.. idk why you would feel guilty about premarital sex, because sex is very natural and our bodies search for it constantly, wether you like it or not. it is what we are created for. check it: this is sex from my experiences and perspective. i first had sex when i was in 8th grade with my girlfriend i had been dating for a year. i truely thought we would be together forever and we loved eachother blah blah. after we broke up, i was heartbroken and i though i would never experience anything like that again. in highschool, i was tired of feeling shitty about relationships and feeling like noone is attracted to me, so I started reading and watching alot of psychological articles and documentaries related to attraction. i basically "got good" at talking to girls and creating attraction. after years of experimenting and having sex with different people, i've found that it gets really boring just trying to go bang many people. as i have gotten older, i have become more intolerant with girl's personality traits which i didn't like. its like i became a high maintenance girl who is really choosy with how they spend their time with other people. during this very choosy time, i happened to meet someone who i cliqued with instantly; true, real, non-manipulated attraction. after awhile of non official dating (like a year?), i decided that this girl is pretty damn awesome, and i was ready for a real, boyfriend girlfriend relationship. yes we had sex before we started officially dating. | ||
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Jago
Finland390 Posts
On July 23 2011 01:08 theBALLS wrote: I am saving myself for marriage. And yes, I do believe it will be better. Because to me, I would be doing it guilt-free, and guilt-free always feels better, no? So let me get this straight: you believe that having a complete lack of experience will somehow make you (and/or your wife/husband) a better lover? What twisted logic is this? What does guilt have to do with anything? If you are having normal sexual relations with another consenting adult, how/why would guilt enter the picture in any way, shape or form? | ||
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Jago
Finland390 Posts
On July 23 2011 01:21 ninini wrote: Why would anyone want to have sex with someone for the simple reason that "it feels good"? With the same logic you should also be a drug addict. We have a strong sex drive because we're supposed to cross mountains for the right person. So, if we deplete our sexual drive regularly, we decrease our chances of finding that person. Don't waste your sexuality. Sex is legal, doesn't cost money (in a normal relationship) and doesn't rapidly destroy your health. | ||
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Dekoth
United States527 Posts
On July 23 2011 01:08 theBALLS wrote: I am saving myself for marriage. And yes, I do believe it will be better. Because to me, I would be doing it guilt-free, and guilt-free always feels better, no? Stop pushing silly religious morals into something that carries no guilt. You don't need a stupid piece of paper to not feel guilty about a perfectly natural act. Go back and read my earlier post. | ||
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crappen
Norway1546 Posts
This vibrating feeling is indeed OP, sex with another human is not. Having too much sex is for me devestating (unless its just a sex weekend, talking weeks with too much) | ||
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flanksteak
Canada246 Posts
Honestly, it's liberating when you don't care about it as much (eventually you have other priorities); and I wish I spent less time in the past chasing pussy/caring about it, but I had to do it, like most people  edit: for those saving themselves for marriage, let me tell you: it will not make it better, LOL. I don't care who you are, when you first start having sex you are fucking terrible at it. That can change over time, but it doesn't hurt to get ahead of the curve  | ||
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Phenny
Australia1435 Posts
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ninini
Sweden1204 Posts
On July 23 2011 01:23 OutlaW- wrote: I'll gladly interfere with your argument. Everyone would be a drug addict if it had no negative effects on the body, which sex, outside of rare illnesses that you can avoid, doesn't have, and was free, like sex is. You don't have to be a brain surgeon to realize that someone who lives a life with no sexual gratification would be more driven in their pursuit of a partner compared to someone who have sex and/or masturbate regularly. And you write this off as "no negative effect". Wow. | ||
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DetriusXii
Canada156 Posts
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Xanbatou
United States805 Posts
TL, I am disappointed in you. There are so many bad arguments and logical fallacies in this thread.. | ||
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Jago
Finland390 Posts
On July 23 2011 01:38 ninini wrote: You don't have to be a brain surgeon to realize that someone who lives a life with no sexual gratification would be more driven in their pursuit of a partner compared to someone who have sex and/or masturbate regularly. And you write this off as "no negative effect". Wow. I sincerely hope you're just trolling, because you've got that completely backwards. Saving yourself for marriage is the thing that carries negative effect. Someone who lives a life with no sexual gratification is much more likely to be frustrated and depressed. | ||
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Wrongspeedy
United States1655 Posts
On July 23 2011 01:04 theBALLS wrote: I am about to lose my TL virginity here. Here goes my virgin post: Coming from a Asian's pov (btw I find it real silly how people refer to us as generic "Asians"... Goddamit we're the most populous continent with a myriad of different races and nationalities), it WAS very much frowned upon to engage in sexual relations prior to marriage. However, with the advent of Westernization, people nowadays have grown to become much more liberal about their activities, and even their sexuality. Today, you can be a man dressed up like a woman and all you'd be getting are brief stares. If you did this 30 years ago in my country, you'd be treated like a blue man in a freak show. However, being 20 this year, and being a virgin, most of the people in my social circle are still virgins who do not succumb to peer pressure. I would like to consider myself to be of the more educated lot (have secured a spot for a PhD course in college), and although people in our circle do engage in sexual activity, it is not worn on a sleeve. Most of us (excluding the jockish lot) are not ashamed to admit our virginity and we see no need to "get it on" to impress an invisible audience. On the other hand, I do have friends who are less educated, and this lot makes up the majority of our population. The connecting trait I notice in many of these people is a sheer lack of self-esteem. They seem to have an inherent need of self-glorification. I am sad to say, but these people want to be like you. They don't feel satisfied in their Asian skin and they practice what I call "white worship". Please note that I am not insulting the west. It is the portrayal of the west as seen in pop culture. The "sex and drinking is cool" culture. That is really sad, and I predict that within the next century, our Asian traditions would be completely overwhelmed by westernization. I'm calling it. The irony of the matter is, I think a person is much more of a loser than a virgin if he/she loses her virginity because of social pressure. Even more so if the person thinks that we are losers because we are virgins. Personally, as an Asian, although not religious but brought up in a Christian home, I do feel a need to maintain the decorum of my lineage and to respect certain traditions. I have had several opportunities to engage in the said activity. I was very tempted, like any 20 year old dude would be. I, however, turned it down not because of religion or whatnot, but simply because it wouldn't be something I could be proud of. I think overcoming temptation is far more gratifying that succumbing to a primal urge. Therefore you're not a loser because you're a virgin. I would most probably NOT be a virgin if 1) I was brought as a white kid in America AND 2) I had no religious background. Unlike OP, my virginity is something that I highly value, and my first time should only be shared with someone extremely special to me. Lol. I'm a white kid in America who is in your position because my parents are the same way (Religious while I am not). The U.S. is big enough that a wide variety of people exist  . The States are all very different from each other for the most part, and small towns are much different than large cities. Much like in Asia. Like in Utah lots of people wait to get married before sex, some of those same people try and marry more than one women at once. Haha, Now I'm done (<Jungle Insider).On July 23 2011 01:36 flanksteak wrote: For something like sex, I think it's good that everyone goes at their own pace/has their own ideas/attitudes towards it. I could tell you it's not all it's cracked up to be, and it actually is better with someone you've gotten to know, but you can't just know this. If right now you believe that bagging as many chicks as possible is the way to go, you need to go through that process before changing your mind. Or not. Honestly, it's liberating when you don't care about it as much (eventually you have other priorities); and I wish I spent less time in the past chasing pussy/caring about it, but I had to do it, like most people edit: for those saving themselves for marriage, let me tell you: it will not make it better, LOL. I don't care who you are, when you first start having sex you are fucking terrible at it. That can change over time, but it doesn't hurt to get ahead of the curve Do you know that from experience? I mean I honestly believe that the first time having sex will not be the best, but what does "better" mean? And have you actually waited until you were married to have sex, so that you could actually answer that question? There are many different ways a thing can be "better", and I don't think anyone is arguing "well I'm waiting to have sex till I'm married because I know it will feel better HAHAAHAH FOOLS and their premarital sex." I think its more like you have some confidence in your partner and you feel like your bond is tighter from having only experienced sex with each other (and knowing that), or just religion, whatevs. Its just silly to say people shouldn't wait for marriage if you yourself have not tried it. You can obviously still have an opinion. | ||
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keeblur
United States826 Posts
On July 23 2011 01:29 Dekoth wrote: Stop pushing silly religious morals into something that carries no guilt. You don't need a stupid piece of paper to not feel guilty about a perfectly natural act. Go back and read my earlier post. I saw nowhere in that statement where he even remotely mentioned religion, so why even bring it up? | ||
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lazyo
Germany90 Posts
Of course if you really care about other people's opinions about you, you might be pushed into it. But by the same logic you would be pushed into doing a number of other things, such as dressing in a certain way, behaving in a certain way, consuming certain drugs etc. In the end: be a real person and do what you like. If other people can't accept that, screw them. | ||
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Stil
United Kingdom206 Posts
On July 22 2011 19:27 d00p wrote: Really hot women actually have ALL the power over men. Like they can choose to have men doing all the work (money) for them. Or if they choose to go for a career they will have a huge advantage over ugly women or short men (these are just examples, you get the point). Now this is something worthy of a discussion. Have you noticed that succesful people are usually pretty good looking? That is why sex is imba and hot women are OP in society. Not because some guy can't or won't get laid (which is fine at his age, imo). Waiting is fine. Doing it from early on is fine too. Slightly off topic here - but just want to say it's hard for an attractive woman in the workplace. Attractive men get the attention of male and female co-workers, as an attractive woman you get jealousy from women/advances from men and there is the question mark over your head 'talented or just eye candy?'  On July 22 2011 21:40 JesusOurSaviour wrote:lying in bed 10+ years into the future when current TL-ers (avg age of posters = 20yrs) are married, and thinking that: My wife's vagina has been pounded over and over and over by several different guys, some whom I actually know. No you don't have to think about it, but it's true and it's not awesome. I don't care if my lady has had 100 partners before me - the past is the past. I am not so selfish that I would deny the wealth of experiences that come with adult (and sex is part of that) relationships. Why should my future partner feel lonely and unloved for years and years, until the day that our paths cross? Am I so egotistical that I have to have exclusivity like a forum poster with little actual valid content and just go 'FIRST' in order to feel like a significant part of her life? No! I like to know that my partners consider as me is worthy of their love based on their experiences in other relationships, rather than them not knowing any better because they have nothing to compare me to | ||
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ninini
Sweden1204 Posts
On July 23 2011 01:41 Jago wrote: I sincerely hope you're just trolling, because you've got that completely backwards. Saving yourself for marriage is the thing that carries negative effect. Someone who lives a life with no sexual gratification is much more likely to be frustrated and depressed. I'm not talking about saving yourself for marriage. I'm talking about preserving your sexuality, which is something you can do inbetween relationships. | ||
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Sega92
United States467 Posts
we are creatures of habit, don't worry about sex bro, people rant and rave and for good reason but the first time will always be the best, wait until you've got a good partner who will make it that much better my first gf and I played BW after so wait until the person is right and you'll be much happier edit OHH!! also if you have it too much you're a slut...WTF IS THAT ABOUT?!?!?! and people who get paid to do it are whores and whore has become an insult...we just can't make up our minds can we? | ||
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