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What was that saying?
"sex is just like air. It isn't a big deal, unless you ain't getting any." 
It's ultimately just a matter of perspective.. The people that consider virgins as loosers, are placing to much "social value" on sex. But in reality, to most teens, sex is just another fun activity, allmost as insignifiant as watching a movie or playing a board game..
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On July 23 2011 03:55 Keitzer wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2011 03:38 MadVillain wrote:
I honestly felt the same way as the OP did... until I lost my virginity. There was a girl I liked, told myself to stop being a pussy, talked to her a month or so later she was my girlfriend and we had sex. It was great, we had a lot of sex and I think I've learned some valuable skills.
90% of the time when people say they don't want/need sex they are just bullshitting themselves, I know this from personal experience. I told myself over and over, it doesn't matter you'll do it when the right girl comes blah blah bullshit bullshit. These are people who, like me, weren't confident enough and were too much of a pussy to try and get it. Sex is fun, it is stress relieving, it gives you confidence it really is all positive.
Abstinence is silly in my opinion. Humans naturally have an innate drive to rub there genitals together and denying this really doesn't do anything. The thought that it will be more special if sex is saved for marriage is complete crap.
Sex like all things takes practice to be good at, you think your first time having sex when you're 30 and you just got married is going to be some magical moment? No, it will be a hilariously awkward affair, not knowing foreplay, cuming in 10 secs etc.
Sex is good for you, do it. but... WHY is it good... what benefit do you get from having sex besides not looking like a dumbass when you finally do get married?
To avoid coming on TL and posting threads about how it dominates society. There are three types of people who are enthralled by the thought of sex, whether for or against it:
1) People who haven't had it.
2) People in a newer relationship.
3) People who aren't getting enough of it.
I fall into the 2nd category at the moment, I broke up with my girlfriend of four years last September. Since then I have had a couple of sexual partners, neither of which I was really crazy for and the sex was very 'meh'.
Over the last month and a half I have been dating a new girl who I am really into, and the sex is fantastic. As such it tends to lurk in my thoughts far more often than usual. But I'm a realist, I've been here before and I know it's just a matter of time before these crazy brain chemicals die down and I can get back to living normally - where sex is important, but it's not the be-all end-all of my existence.
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You must have some pretty wild board games in Romania 0_o
Sex is fun and infinitly more satisfying than jerking it. I honestly cant last a week without one or the other, need to release some pressure, plus its proven to help to prevent prostate/testicular cancer 
Obviously first times can be meh, same as doing it with some girl who only lays on her back...but with the right person its amazing.
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Oh, one more thing.
It actually is good to abstain in some cases. One of them is when you are a practitioner of Chineese internal alchemy. Apparently they live ascetic lives and abstain from sex and masturbation and use their semen to create the "golden elixir" in their bodies, with witch they can achieve immortality!
But for the sake of this thread I will assume you are not in this situation so, again, you should try it as it is definately a fun activity..
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It's good, sure, but much better with someone you care about. Wait, and you'll enjoy it more.
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On July 23 2011 03:55 Keitzer wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2011 03:38 MadVillain wrote:
I honestly felt the same way as the OP did... until I lost my virginity. There was a girl I liked, told myself to stop being a pussy, talked to her a month or so later she was my girlfriend and we had sex. It was great, we had a lot of sex and I think I've learned some valuable skills.
90% of the time when people say they don't want/need sex they are just bullshitting themselves, I know this from personal experience. I told myself over and over, it doesn't matter you'll do it when the right girl comes blah blah bullshit bullshit. These are people who, like me, weren't confident enough and were too much of a pussy to try and get it. Sex is fun, it is stress relieving, it gives you confidence it really is all positive.
Abstinence is silly in my opinion. Humans naturally have an innate drive to rub there genitals together and denying this really doesn't do anything. The thought that it will be more special if sex is saved for marriage is complete crap.
Sex like all things takes practice to be good at, you think your first time having sex when you're 30 and you just got married is going to be some magical moment? No, it will be a hilariously awkward affair, not knowing foreplay, cuming in 10 secs etc.
Sex is good for you, do it. but... WHY is it good... what benefit do you get from having sex besides not looking like a dumbass when you finally do get married? edit: you mentioned a few things: stress relieving, fun, and confidence. 1. I am stress free already. 2. I have enough in my day that I don't feel the need to add something unnecessary. 3. I am self-motivated and confident enough in myself that I need not participate. Now, if you worked a 9-5 job that your boss was always harping on you about, you come home to a shitty financial situation, and the most fun you can have is by watching some prime-time TV, then ya, go at it. But my problem with this whole "oh, it's great for you!" is that all the so called "benefits" are things that just counter the negatives in one's life. When one (aka, me) has no negatives that it can counter, why do it?
I get your point. But... it is a point spoken like a true virgin.
I have enough in my day that I don't feel the need to add something unnecessary.
Are you really saying that you're too busy to have sex? You're too busy to engage in a very personal, visceral, intimate activity with another human being? Are you saying that you feel nothing when that girl you like walks by looking sexy?
This is the mindset of someone who has talked themselves into THINKING they don't want sex. Love-making with someone you care about is anything but unnecessary, it is a very rewarding and fulfilling activity.
And you're right, you might not NEED sex. I'm not saying anyone really NEEDS sex, but the benefits I mentioned come ON TOP of what you already have in your life. You might be confident in some respects like your work, school etc, but what about talking to people, talking to girls? Your fitness etc?
What I'm saying is I believe sex can enhance your life, even if you think your life is already good.
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On July 23 2011 03:31 ToxNub wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2011 03:25 Wrongspeedy wrote:On July 23 2011 03:18 ToxNub wrote:On July 23 2011 02:03 Wrongspeedy wrote:On July 23 2011 01:56 ToxNub wrote:Sex is definitely OP. It's a cultural obsession, which I think, ironically, would go away if people just got laid more. People would be more relaxed about it, stop making it such a big deal, and then we could all go on with our lives. As long as people are trying to construct rules about who/how/when it should happen we're only going to make people want it more. We're wired to want it, and complicating it only makes us want it more.
I'm not as understanding as the rest of the thread. If you're 21 and you haven't been laid, then something is wrong. Not morally wrong, just that you're a statistical outlier. Ok, so maybe you haven't met a girl worth it yet, fine. But, also, maybe you're just chicken, or bad with women, or whatever. Not all reasons are equally valid It's not the sex that you should worry about, it is the "why"s you should worry about. Maybe your just an ass-hole?(I'm juuuuuuuust kidddding sheesh) But I don't need to post that on a forum do I  I really just wanted to ask what statistics am I outlaying from? I thought like 100% of all statistics on the internet were true. Average age is 17, and 47.8% of US high school students reported having had sexual intercourse. according to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolescent_sexuality_in_the_United_States And you believe what teenagers put on those tests....................... I live in the U.S. probably participated in that, could have lied and said I was black, smoked cigarettes, drank alcohol, and smoked weed. Nothing to prevent me from putting that shit down. NOTHING. Its not like they go through them all with a biological profile of your life history and go "well thats not accurate!" If you ever went to middle school you know thats bs, half the kids lie about dumb things and some of them just find it funny to put redic information down, which means that any good information your getting is crap too. Certainly some people will lie, but you're the one that is going to need to provide statistics to say that most or all of them would, if you're basing your argument on that. I lost mine at 19. My girlfriend was 17. Most of my friends lost it before that. You can believe it or not, it doesn't matter. I don't think it's a big deal either way. What really matters if you are sexual yet or not. If you do have sexual urges, but you're not having sex, why? Are those reasons healthy? If yes, great. If not, then figure out how to get help. This is the same thing any counselor or psychologist will tell you.
No I don't your statistic says that at LEAST half of those kids aren't having sex, making me the majority. And I think kids are more likely to lie about having sex than lie about not having sex on an anonymous test.
"What really matters if you are sexual or not yet?"
What kind of question is that? Or is it a statement saying I should be sexual because you think that way? Out of you and everyone else I don't think anyone has said one thing bad about not having sex, besides your not having sex.
+ Show Spoiler +On July 23 2011 04:16 Dagon wrote:Oh, one more thing. It actually is good to abstain in some cases. One of them is when you are a practitioner of Chineese internal alchemy. Apparently they live ascetic lives and abstain from sex and masturbation and use their semen to create the "golden elixir" in their bodies, with witch they can achieve immortality! But for the sake of this thread I will assume you are not in this situation so, again, you should try it as it is definately a fun activity..
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On July 23 2011 04:18 MadVillain wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2011 03:55 Keitzer wrote:On July 23 2011 03:38 MadVillain wrote:
I honestly felt the same way as the OP did... until I lost my virginity. There was a girl I liked, told myself to stop being a pussy, talked to her a month or so later she was my girlfriend and we had sex. It was great, we had a lot of sex and I think I've learned some valuable skills.
90% of the time when people say they don't want/need sex they are just bullshitting themselves, I know this from personal experience. I told myself over and over, it doesn't matter you'll do it when the right girl comes blah blah bullshit bullshit. These are people who, like me, weren't confident enough and were too much of a pussy to try and get it. Sex is fun, it is stress relieving, it gives you confidence it really is all positive.
Abstinence is silly in my opinion. Humans naturally have an innate drive to rub there genitals together and denying this really doesn't do anything. The thought that it will be more special if sex is saved for marriage is complete crap.
Sex like all things takes practice to be good at, you think your first time having sex when you're 30 and you just got married is going to be some magical moment? No, it will be a hilariously awkward affair, not knowing foreplay, cuming in 10 secs etc.
Sex is good for you, do it. but... WHY is it good... what benefit do you get from having sex besides not looking like a dumbass when you finally do get married? edit: you mentioned a few things: stress relieving, fun, and confidence. 1. I am stress free already. 2. I have enough in my day that I don't feel the need to add something unnecessary. 3. I am self-motivated and confident enough in myself that I need not participate. Now, if you worked a 9-5 job that your boss was always harping on you about, you come home to a shitty financial situation, and the most fun you can have is by watching some prime-time TV, then ya, go at it. But my problem with this whole "oh, it's great for you!" is that all the so called "benefits" are things that just counter the negatives in one's life. When one (aka, me) has no negatives that it can counter, why do it? I get your point. But... it is a point spoken like a true virgin. Show nested quote +I have enough in my day that I don't feel the need to add something unnecessary. Are you really saying that you're too busy to have sex? You're too busy to engage in a very personal, visceral, intimate activity with another human being? Are you saying that you feel nothing when that girl you like walks by looking sexy? This is the mindset of someone who has talked themselves into THINKING they don't want sex. Love-making with someone you care about is anything but unnecessary, it is a very rewarding and fulfilling activity. And you're right, you might not NEED sex. I'm not saying anyone really NEEDS sex, but the benefits I mentioned come ON TOP of what you already have in your life. You might be confident in some respects like your work, school etc, but what about talking to people, talking to girls? Your fitness etc? What I'm saying is I believe sex can enhance your life, even if you think your life is already good.
No i'm definitely not too busy. Yes I do "feel something", but don't care enough to go after it.
ya cool, sex can add things to my life (things you listed), but how does it help me achieve my end goal at either a faster or more efficient rate (be a multi-millionaire)?
well then maybe it goes even deeper than that... (which is getting off topic) which is that I see no use for a girlfriend either. Not saying I'm not attracted to women (which holy shit yes I am), just that there isn't enough of a persuasive reason to get a girlfriend. My friends have one because they want that emotional attraction, which I don't feel.
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Well I am in high school currently and I have had friends who have smart and stupid about it.
I have a pair of friends who are known as the done everything but sex couple. When I asked my friend how he stopped himself from doing that he said just wasnt worth the risk.
On the other hand I have a friend who has a purity ring and she had sex with her bf multiple times, but im not allowed to confront her about any of it.
So it really varies theres nothing wrong with waiting. Most guys who are smart really want to do it but with enough thinking they all realize they dont like playing the risk
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On July 23 2011 04:22 Wrongspeedy wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2011 03:31 ToxNub wrote:On July 23 2011 03:25 Wrongspeedy wrote:On July 23 2011 03:18 ToxNub wrote:On July 23 2011 02:03 Wrongspeedy wrote:On July 23 2011 01:56 ToxNub wrote:Sex is definitely OP. It's a cultural obsession, which I think, ironically, would go away if people just got laid more. People would be more relaxed about it, stop making it such a big deal, and then we could all go on with our lives. As long as people are trying to construct rules about who/how/when it should happen we're only going to make people want it more. We're wired to want it, and complicating it only makes us want it more.
I'm not as understanding as the rest of the thread. If you're 21 and you haven't been laid, then something is wrong. Not morally wrong, just that you're a statistical outlier. Ok, so maybe you haven't met a girl worth it yet, fine. But, also, maybe you're just chicken, or bad with women, or whatever. Not all reasons are equally valid It's not the sex that you should worry about, it is the "why"s you should worry about. Maybe your just an ass-hole?(I'm juuuuuuuust kidddding sheesh) But I don't need to post that on a forum do I I really just wanted to ask what statistics am I outlaying from? I thought like 100% of all statistics on the internet were true. Average age is 17, and 47.8% of US high school students reported having had sexual intercourse. according to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolescent_sexuality_in_the_United_States And you believe what teenagers put on those tests....................... I live in the U.S. probably participated in that, could have lied and said I was black, smoked cigarettes, drank alcohol, and smoked weed. Nothing to prevent me from putting that shit down. NOTHING. Its not like they go through them all with a biological profile of your life history and go "well thats not accurate!" If you ever went to middle school you know thats bs, half the kids lie about dumb things and some of them just find it funny to put redic information down, which means that any good information your getting is crap too. Certainly some people will lie, but you're the one that is going to need to provide statistics to say that most or all of them would, if you're basing your argument on that. I lost mine at 19. My girlfriend was 17. Most of my friends lost it before that. You can believe it or not, it doesn't matter. I don't think it's a big deal either way. What really matters if you are sexual yet or not. If you do have sexual urges, but you're not having sex, why? Are those reasons healthy? If yes, great. If not, then figure out how to get help. This is the same thing any counselor or psychologist will tell you. No I don't your statistic says that at LEAST half of those kids aren't having sex, making me the majority. And I think kids are more likely to lie about having sex than lie about not having sex on an anonymous test. "What really matters if you are sexual or not yet?" What kind of question is that? Or is it a statement saying I should be sexual because you think that way? Out of you and everyone else I don't think anyone has said one thing bad about not having sex, besides your not having sex. + Show Spoiler +On July 23 2011 04:16 Dagon wrote:Oh, one more thing. It actually is good to abstain in some cases. One of them is when you are a practitioner of Chineese internal alchemy. Apparently they live ascetic lives and abstain from sex and masturbation and use their semen to create the "golden elixir" in their bodies, with witch they can achieve immortality! But for the sake of this thread I will assume you are not in this situation so, again, you should try it as it is definately a fun activity.. Ahahaha thats awesome. You are the Golden Child!
You are 21, it shows that half of kids have sex while in high school. So you are not the majority. It doesn't matter what you think, you need to provide evidence if you are going to dispute other evidence. You asked for my evidence, now I ask for yours.
Not that it matters. You are young, and confused, and you haven't yet grasped what I say in my posts. I will say it again one last time, and I hope you will read this time. The sex does not matter, your reasons for having or not having sex matter. Make sure they are good reasons, either way.
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On July 23 2011 04:40 ToxNub wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2011 04:22 Wrongspeedy wrote:On July 23 2011 03:31 ToxNub wrote:On July 23 2011 03:25 Wrongspeedy wrote:On July 23 2011 03:18 ToxNub wrote:On July 23 2011 02:03 Wrongspeedy wrote:On July 23 2011 01:56 ToxNub wrote:Sex is definitely OP. It's a cultural obsession, which I think, ironically, would go away if people just got laid more. People would be more relaxed about it, stop making it such a big deal, and then we could all go on with our lives. As long as people are trying to construct rules about who/how/when it should happen we're only going to make people want it more. We're wired to want it, and complicating it only makes us want it more.
I'm not as understanding as the rest of the thread. If you're 21 and you haven't been laid, then something is wrong. Not morally wrong, just that you're a statistical outlier. Ok, so maybe you haven't met a girl worth it yet, fine. But, also, maybe you're just chicken, or bad with women, or whatever. Not all reasons are equally valid It's not the sex that you should worry about, it is the "why"s you should worry about. Maybe your just an ass-hole?(I'm juuuuuuuust kidddding sheesh) But I don't need to post that on a forum do I I really just wanted to ask what statistics am I outlaying from? I thought like 100% of all statistics on the internet were true. Average age is 17, and 47.8% of US high school students reported having had sexual intercourse. according to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolescent_sexuality_in_the_United_States And you believe what teenagers put on those tests....................... I live in the U.S. probably participated in that, could have lied and said I was black, smoked cigarettes, drank alcohol, and smoked weed. Nothing to prevent me from putting that shit down. NOTHING. Its not like they go through them all with a biological profile of your life history and go "well thats not accurate!" If you ever went to middle school you know thats bs, half the kids lie about dumb things and some of them just find it funny to put redic information down, which means that any good information your getting is crap too. Certainly some people will lie, but you're the one that is going to need to provide statistics to say that most or all of them would, if you're basing your argument on that. I lost mine at 19. My girlfriend was 17. Most of my friends lost it before that. You can believe it or not, it doesn't matter. I don't think it's a big deal either way. What really matters if you are sexual yet or not. If you do have sexual urges, but you're not having sex, why? Are those reasons healthy? If yes, great. If not, then figure out how to get help. This is the same thing any counselor or psychologist will tell you. No I don't your statistic says that at LEAST half of those kids aren't having sex, making me the majority. And I think kids are more likely to lie about having sex than lie about not having sex on an anonymous test. "What really matters if you are sexual or not yet?" What kind of question is that? Or is it a statement saying I should be sexual because you think that way? Out of you and everyone else I don't think anyone has said one thing bad about not having sex, besides your not having sex. + Show Spoiler +On July 23 2011 04:16 Dagon wrote:Oh, one more thing. It actually is good to abstain in some cases. One of them is when you are a practitioner of Chineese internal alchemy. Apparently they live ascetic lives and abstain from sex and masturbation and use their semen to create the "golden elixir" in their bodies, with witch they can achieve immortality! But for the sake of this thread I will assume you are not in this situation so, again, you should try it as it is definately a fun activity.. Ahahaha thats awesome. You are the Golden Child! You are 21, it shows that half of kids have sex while in high school. So you are not the majority. It doesn't matter what you think, you need to provide evidence if you are going to dispute other evidence. You asked for my evidence, now I ask for yours. Not that it matters. You are young, and confused, and you haven't yet grasped what I say in my posts. I will say it again one last time, and I hope you will read this time. The sex does not matter, your reasons for having or not having sex matter. Make sure they are good reasons, either way.
ya, as of right now, I haven't heard a reason i consider legitimate enough to engage in sex.
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You have a lot of growing to do--sex is involved in that, but only plays a part, albeit a big part for some people, of growing up. Ask yourself this question again in 10 years, then in another ten years, and the answer will keep changing.
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On July 23 2011 04:38 Dice17 wrote:On the other hand I have a friend who has a purity ring and she had sex with her bf multiple times, but im not allowed to confront her about any of it.
Madness - if she wants sex, she should just have sex - no guilt should come of it  I bet she's one of those misguided people that think that oral and anal sex 'don't count' as sex either - not that as a gentleman I'd complain But yeah in the UK thankfully we have few people who see the vagina as some kind of mystical all powerful creature to be scared of.
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On July 23 2011 04:35 Keitzer wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2011 04:18 MadVillain wrote:On July 23 2011 03:55 Keitzer wrote:On July 23 2011 03:38 MadVillain wrote:
I honestly felt the same way as the OP did... until I lost my virginity. There was a girl I liked, told myself to stop being a pussy, talked to her a month or so later she was my girlfriend and we had sex. It was great, we had a lot of sex and I think I've learned some valuable skills.
90% of the time when people say they don't want/need sex they are just bullshitting themselves, I know this from personal experience. I told myself over and over, it doesn't matter you'll do it when the right girl comes blah blah bullshit bullshit. These are people who, like me, weren't confident enough and were too much of a pussy to try and get it. Sex is fun, it is stress relieving, it gives you confidence it really is all positive.
Abstinence is silly in my opinion. Humans naturally have an innate drive to rub there genitals together and denying this really doesn't do anything. The thought that it will be more special if sex is saved for marriage is complete crap.
Sex like all things takes practice to be good at, you think your first time having sex when you're 30 and you just got married is going to be some magical moment? No, it will be a hilariously awkward affair, not knowing foreplay, cuming in 10 secs etc.
Sex is good for you, do it. but... WHY is it good... what benefit do you get from having sex besides not looking like a dumbass when you finally do get married? edit: you mentioned a few things: stress relieving, fun, and confidence. 1. I am stress free already. 2. I have enough in my day that I don't feel the need to add something unnecessary. 3. I am self-motivated and confident enough in myself that I need not participate. Now, if you worked a 9-5 job that your boss was always harping on you about, you come home to a shitty financial situation, and the most fun you can have is by watching some prime-time TV, then ya, go at it. But my problem with this whole "oh, it's great for you!" is that all the so called "benefits" are things that just counter the negatives in one's life. When one (aka, me) has no negatives that it can counter, why do it? I get your point. But... it is a point spoken like a true virgin. I have enough in my day that I don't feel the need to add something unnecessary. Are you really saying that you're too busy to have sex? You're too busy to engage in a very personal, visceral, intimate activity with another human being? Are you saying that you feel nothing when that girl you like walks by looking sexy? This is the mindset of someone who has talked themselves into THINKING they don't want sex. Love-making with someone you care about is anything but unnecessary, it is a very rewarding and fulfilling activity. And you're right, you might not NEED sex. I'm not saying anyone really NEEDS sex, but the benefits I mentioned come ON TOP of what you already have in your life. You might be confident in some respects like your work, school etc, but what about talking to people, talking to girls? Your fitness etc? What I'm saying is I believe sex can enhance your life, even if you think your life is already good. No i'm definitely not too busy. Yes I do "feel something", but don't care enough to go after it. ya cool, sex can add things to my life (things you listed), but how does it help me achieve my end goal at either a faster or more efficient rate (be a multi-millionaire)? well then maybe it goes even deeper than that... (which is getting off topic) which is that I see no use for a girlfriend either. Not saying I'm not attracted to women (which holy shit yes I am), just that there isn't enough of a persuasive reason to get a girlfriend. My friends have one because they want that emotional attraction, which I don't feel.
You sure as fuck should care enough to go after it. Sex is awesome, it is way better than Starcraft or reading Team Liquid, if I could be getting laid right now, I wouldn't even be writing this.
The legitimate reason to have sex is because its fun. Its really fucking fun. Seriously, if you want to act like everything you do has some greater purpose or benefit, why are you on this site? Why do you play SC at all? (sex is better than Starcraft)
GFs are useful for many things try one and see what you think. Emotional attraction is not totally necessary for all relationships. Especially in high school or college.
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In the male driven western society it's viewed as another status symbol like money, a man being able to sleep with many women must be desirable and thus better than another who can't/hasn't.
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Males having to be convinced to have sex hahahahaahahaha
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Biologically speaking, sex for diploid, multicellular, "complex" organisms is the entire point of life. After all, animals exist as a means of propagating specific genes that have developed a means to continue their own existence. Particularly for males, the entire "creation" of males was a means of developing a way to create more genetic diversity as opposed to the multicellular diploid model of rotifers.
As for society, I could take it or leave it.
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"I am a virgin just because fate has not allowed to experience it."
Since when did being successful within interactions with females become something only fate could decide? It is of your own control.
"Well to an avg-dimwitted tool, I would be considered a "loser."
And this just appears to be you trying to cover your insecurities by imagining that others deem you a lesser being, and because of this, are therefore not as well intellectual constructed as yourself.
This is a very strange mind-state, and it baffles me slightly.
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On July 23 2011 05:13 selboN wrote:
Males having to be convinced to have sex hahahahaahahaha
did i miss something?
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On July 23 2011 04:35 Keitzer wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2011 04:18 MadVillain wrote:On July 23 2011 03:55 Keitzer wrote:On July 23 2011 03:38 MadVillain wrote:
I honestly felt the same way as the OP did... until I lost my virginity. There was a girl I liked, told myself to stop being a pussy, talked to her a month or so later she was my girlfriend and we had sex. It was great, we had a lot of sex and I think I've learned some valuable skills.
90% of the time when people say they don't want/need sex they are just bullshitting themselves, I know this from personal experience. I told myself over and over, it doesn't matter you'll do it when the right girl comes blah blah bullshit bullshit. These are people who, like me, weren't confident enough and were too much of a pussy to try and get it. Sex is fun, it is stress relieving, it gives you confidence it really is all positive.
Abstinence is silly in my opinion. Humans naturally have an innate drive to rub there genitals together and denying this really doesn't do anything. The thought that it will be more special if sex is saved for marriage is complete crap.
Sex like all things takes practice to be good at, you think your first time having sex when you're 30 and you just got married is going to be some magical moment? No, it will be a hilariously awkward affair, not knowing foreplay, cuming in 10 secs etc.
Sex is good for you, do it. but... WHY is it good... what benefit do you get from having sex besides not looking like a dumbass when you finally do get married? edit: you mentioned a few things: stress relieving, fun, and confidence. 1. I am stress free already. 2. I have enough in my day that I don't feel the need to add something unnecessary. 3. I am self-motivated and confident enough in myself that I need not participate. Now, if you worked a 9-5 job that your boss was always harping on you about, you come home to a shitty financial situation, and the most fun you can have is by watching some prime-time TV, then ya, go at it. But my problem with this whole "oh, it's great for you!" is that all the so called "benefits" are things that just counter the negatives in one's life. When one (aka, me) has no negatives that it can counter, why do it? I get your point. But... it is a point spoken like a true virgin. I have enough in my day that I don't feel the need to add something unnecessary. Are you really saying that you're too busy to have sex? You're too busy to engage in a very personal, visceral, intimate activity with another human being? Are you saying that you feel nothing when that girl you like walks by looking sexy? This is the mindset of someone who has talked themselves into THINKING they don't want sex. Love-making with someone you care about is anything but unnecessary, it is a very rewarding and fulfilling activity. And you're right, you might not NEED sex. I'm not saying anyone really NEEDS sex, but the benefits I mentioned come ON TOP of what you already have in your life. You might be confident in some respects like your work, school etc, but what about talking to people, talking to girls? Your fitness etc? What I'm saying is I believe sex can enhance your life, even if you think your life is already good. No i'm definitely not too busy. Yes I do "feel something", but don't care enough to go after it. ya cool, sex can add things to my life (things you listed), but how does it help me achieve my end goal at either a faster or more efficient rate (be a multi-millionaire)? well then maybe it goes even deeper than that... (which is getting off topic) which is that I see no use for a girlfriend either. Not saying I'm not attracted to women (which holy shit yes I am), just that there isn't enough of a persuasive reason to get a girlfriend. My friends have one because they want that emotional attraction, which I don't feel.
If your only goal is to be a multi-millionaire, then you probably won't ever understand why people like sex just for the sake of having sex.
There's no logical answer to your question. What advantage does sex have? Well, it has some nice side effects like releasing endorphines when you orgasm and other biochemical stuff like that, but that's probably not what you're talking about when you ask for why sex is good.
It just feels good and is one of the most fulfilling things that most humans can do. For you it isn't like that and money is probably more fulfilling to you, and that's fine, that's just the way you are.
But there's no need to argue about it since nobody will be able to explain it to you. How would somebody explain to you how strawberries taste if you haven't ever eaten a fruit in your life?
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