EPTI'm in the process of getting some of the pictures through my sister to do a reverse image search and i can get the cellphone number, he's getting scammed from to investigate. Anything else i could do?
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r00ty
Germany1056 Posts
I'm in the process of getting some of the pictures through my sister to do a reverse image search and i can get the cellphone number, he's getting scammed from to investigate. Anything else i could do? | ||
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Poland9193 Posts
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Ludwigvan
Germany2371 Posts
On March 25 2025 00:06 r00ty wrote: How to convince someone he's in the process of falling for a love scam? My brother showed me pictures of his new girlfriend to be and it's obviously a scam. He started with "i know it's stupid, but...". Now he's already emotionally invested and doesn't believe me. No money requests i know of so far, but he's about to fly to Kenia over WhatsApp chats and heavily filtered/photoshopped pictures... I love him, but bless his heart. I'm in the process of getting some of the pictures through my sister to do a reverse image search and i can get the cellphone number, he's getting scammed from to investigate. Anything else i could do? my mother was scammed, but I could convince her that it was in fact a scam. scamming is serious and it happens to many people. It is great that you want to protect your brother. I think, Documenting everything is important. this link might be helpful: Do's and Don'ts to Help Someone who is Being Scammed There are information centers from the police that you might want to call and talk to them. Since I saw you are German: You might want to search for something like "Kriminalprävention" Talk to someone else like the "weiße Ring". weisser-ring.de I wish you and your brother the best. | ||
JimmyJRaynor
Canada16699 Posts
On March 25 2025 00:06 r00ty wrote: How to convince someone he's in the process of falling for a love scam? My brother showed me pictures of his new girlfriend to be and it's obviously a scam. He started with "i know it's stupid, but...". Now he's already emotionally invested and doesn't believe me. No money requests i know of so far, but he's about to fly to Kenia over WhatsApp chats and heavily filtered/photoshopped pictures... I love him, but bless his heart. I'm in the process of getting some of the pictures through my sister to do a reverse image search and i can get the cellphone number, he's getting scammed from to investigate. Anything else i could do? examine the forces contributing to his blind spot. dig into those with him. | ||
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r00ty
Germany1056 Posts
On March 25 2025 00:48 Ludwigvan wrote: my mother was scammed, but I could convince her that it was in fact a scam. scamming is serious and it happens to many people. It is great that you want to protect your brother. I think, Documenting everything is important. this link might be helpful: Do's and Don'ts to Help Someone who is Being Scammed There are information centers from the police that you might want to call and talk to them. Since I saw you are German: You might want to search for something like "Kriminalprävention" Talk to someone else like the "weiße Ring". weisser-ring.de I wish you and your brother the best. Thanks mate. This was helpful and a good reminder. My first approach could have been less blunt, I'll be more careful. It's just the disappointment because it's so obvious. | ||
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Uldridge
Belgium4765 Posts
Like we just go along our business. People put in orders for things, buyers and procurement tries to find the raw materials, r&d researches things People go into stores and just grab what they need, stores restock what is missing. No one cares anymore about debt because there's nothing to pay back. Fool proof! | ||
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Jockmcplop
United Kingdom9646 Posts
On May 10 2025 00:24 Uldridge wrote: What if we globally just stopped caring about money and stopped paying for things? Like we just go along our business. People put in orders for things, buyers and procurement tries to find the raw materials, r&d researches things People go into stores and just grab what they need, stores restock what is missing. No one cares anymore about debt because there's nothing to pay back. Fool proof! We'd need to prepare. Get all teachers to start teaching children that Jan 1, 2037 is the date when everyone will stop paying for stuff. Eventually everyone will just believe it then do it. | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands21667 Posts
On May 10 2025 00:24 Uldridge wrote: It could work, if people were not people.What if we globally just stopped caring about money and stopped paying for things? Like we just go along our business. People put in orders for things, buyers and procurement tries to find the raw materials, r&d researches things People go into stores and just grab what they need, stores restock what is missing. No one cares anymore about debt because there's nothing to pay back. Fool proof! But that is the problem with basically any system. Humanity. | ||
KwarK
United States42654 Posts
On May 10 2025 01:23 Gorsameth wrote: It could work, if people were not people. But that is the problem with basically any system. Humanity. It doesn't solve the problem of optimal resource allocation. If there's a pretty lady with great feet who also has a fantastic brain then we have to decide whether her time is better used posting feet pics online or doing scientific research. It's a tough problem in a planned economy because you can't easily evaluate the benefits of both options. Whereas in our current economic system then we bid for her. | ||
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Yurie
11822 Posts
On May 10 2025 01:30 KwarK wrote: It doesn't solve the problem of optimal resource allocation. If there's a pretty lady with great feet who also has a fantastic brain then we have to decide whether her time is better used posting feet pics online or doing scientific research. It's a tough problem in a planned economy because you can't easily evaluate the benefits of both options. Whereas in our current economic system then we bid for her. I think capitalism would be a much better system if we actually curtailed the inputs into the system to a sustainable level. Basically cutting current production rates to something like 1/5 and people having to decide what actually matters. Do you want more than 3 new sets of clothes a year or a new vacuum cleaner? Even in universal income scenarios it would work decently well for deciding what to produce over a planned economy. | ||
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Acrofales
Spain17983 Posts
On May 10 2025 01:30 KwarK wrote: It doesn't solve the problem of optimal resource allocation. If there's a pretty lady with great feet who also has a fantastic brain then we have to decide whether her time is better used posting feet pics online or doing scientific research. It's a tough problem in a planned economy because you can't easily evaluate the benefits of both options. Whereas in our current economic system then we bid for her. Novel thought: you could just let her choose what to do with her life. | ||
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Yurie
11822 Posts
On May 10 2025 05:19 Acrofales wrote: Novel thought: you could just let her choose what to do with her life. Capitalism (with government restrictions) still does. One things offers 1000 the other 1500 fantasy units. The difference is up to the person to decide if they want to take. Or a third thing they aren't skilled at that would pay even less/more but make them happier. | ||
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Billyboy
1013 Posts
On May 10 2025 05:19 Acrofales wrote: Novel thought: you could just let her choose what to do with her life. Name one situation where a person was forced to take the highest bid? | ||
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Acrofales
Spain17983 Posts
On May 10 2025 10:01 Billyboy wrote: Name one situation where a person was forced to take the highest bid? 1. Kwark seems worried about optimal resource allocation. If you aren't, then a suboptimal situation where accepting the lower bid is legal is totally fine, but... 2. Why are you defending an obsolete system? I was mainly talking about the situation where we aren't using capitalism. There are other ways of incentivising good use of resources that don't use money or a central plan. | ||
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Zambrah
United States7297 Posts
On May 10 2025 10:01 Billyboy wrote: Name one situation where a person was forced to take the highest bid? I mean... plenty of people out there go to college not to follow their passions or interests, but to pursue higher paying jobs because in this capitalist society if you dont have enough money you can starve/die of severe illness/be homeless/etc. | ||
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Billyboy
1013 Posts
On May 10 2025 14:05 Acrofales wrote: 1. Kwark seems worried about optimal resource allocation. If you aren't, then a suboptimal situation where accepting the lower bid is legal is totally fine, but... 2. Why are you defending an obsolete system? I was mainly talking about the situation where we aren't using capitalism. There are other ways of incentivising good use of resources that don't use money or a central plan. 1. Kwark's example was about choice, you get your bids you make your choice. He didn't say optimal was highest price that was all you. Reality is you made a shitty one liner that made no sense if you took the time to read and think. Likely because your mad at him for something from somewhere else. 2. I didn't defend anything, another case of you making shit up because your mad about something else. On May 10 2025 14:48 Zambrah wrote: I mean... plenty of people out there go to college not to follow their passions or interests, but to pursue higher paying jobs because in this capitalist society if you dont have enough money you can starve/die of severe illness/be homeless/etc. There are lots of flaw, with lack of fairness around opportunity and corruption being near the top of the list of flaws. That being said real world communism has those same flaws plus a lot less choice, whether it is China, USSR, Venezuela, or where ever. So far it seems clear that the bigger factor in choice is democracy over authoritarianism rather than left vs right. For my money the proportional voting democratic socialists have managed the balance the best, not that there is not still lots of meat on the bone. | ||
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Harris1st
Germany6924 Posts
Like you can earn 100k currency a year. Everything above will go into some social fund. Obviously most people would stop working when they hit cap and do something else they love or want to do. There would be some disruption late in the year when more people hit the cap and basically the market for luxury stuff would become obsolete. Dunno. Just spitballing | ||
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MJG
United Kingdom1051 Posts
On May 14 2025 16:52 Harris1st wrote: What about a system where your earnings are capped at some point? Like you can earn 100k currency a year. Everything above will go into some social fund. Obviously most people would stop working when they hit cap and do something else they love or want to do. There would be some disruption late in the year when more people hit the cap and basically the market for luxury stuff would become obsolete. Dunno. Just spitballing Then the CEO would earn 100k... ... plus x amount of shares. | ||
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Harris1st
Germany6924 Posts
On May 14 2025 19:10 MJG wrote: Then the CEO would earn 100k... ... plus x amount of shares. Nah I meant hardcapped. As in it doesn't matter where the currency comes from (wage, shares, rent, whatever). Obviously there are still circumventions like hard cash, trading stuff directly without involving currency and so on that would be impossible to track. And the social fund doesn't go just to anyone but mainly to children and disabled, to childcare, to infrastructure | ||
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Acrofales
Spain17983 Posts
So, now that we have figured out international cooperation on tax, why don't we just put extreme progressive taxes on high income? Great idea, but see step 1. I think Neb's ideas of abolishing ownership of companies and making everything a coop has more chance of actually getting anything done in the short term. At least that outright removes the loophole of paying in equity (as well as the perverse financial market of trading equity). That said it has plenty of problems of its own. Also, doesn't GH have a blog specifically to discuss how to implement socialism? | ||
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