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Russian Federation905 Posts
For me the most interesting angle is this:
Maybe the real issue here is our romantic notion of "sports". Society has moved and is fast moving on towards the nature of what is physical and virtual. Sports are the last remaining strongholds of this, but only because there is an organized and well funded group to promote this. But outside this notion, I think differentiating is simply an soon to be outdated concept. Its like a time lag where all the rest have gone virtual - money, education, even relationship, bu sports remain traditional.
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Honestly, I would like it if this happens as we would get some more recognition and so respect from the mainstream, but I cannot see this passing.
For one thing how are countries going to be able to pay for all the computers etc.. that they will need to run the events. This will scare all smaller countries away from hosting the olympics.
What I would prefer is if the Olympics would just announce some sort of sponsorship for WCG or something, rather than incorporating esports into the main events. The goal of the olympics is the search of the ultimate athlete, and anything that involves luck (ie... a lack of scouting) or constantly changes (new builds, styles, patches) should not be able to get in the way of the true skill.
It does kind of pain me to say this but Halo/COD (FPS in general) would be better in the olympics than SC/RTS.
Sports like golf (a century old) are just getting into the olympics, we need to establish our own major following before barging into the Olympic Games, and the game needs to be relatively stable. FIFA still debates goalline technology some 20 years after it was available, changing the game ever 4 years just doesn't fit the bill.
This being said, I want Starcraft to become big and global, just the Olympics isn't the right place for it to be.
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it will never happen, you'd be delusional to even consider it.
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On May 23 2011 02:49 FlopTurnReaver wrote: Is Chess an olympic discipline?
No, chess has a separate olympics.
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I feel as though this would be a perversion of the olympics. Don't get me wrong I love esports, but the fact that you have to add that "e" before "sports" is pretty much admitting that it is not a sport, but rather something else that is similar.
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I dont like this idea. If we would go with the times, tennis wouldnt be in olympics but 'virtua tennis 3'. Olympics is fine like it is. I love esports but it simply feels like mixing beer with coke. Some people might find it awesome, but its no real beer anymore.
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On May 23 2011 03:46 hongo wrote: I feel as though this would be a perversion of the olympics. Don't get me wrong I love esports, but the fact that you have to add that "e" before "sports" is pretty much admitting that it is not a sport, but rather something else that is similar.
Sorry but this didnt make much sense for me. It's called eSports because someone did go ahead and called it eSports and it established itself as such. It could have been called sports just as well.
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if chess is not going to it then dun bother. there is something called modern boardgames just to let you know. its way superior than e-sports.
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On May 23 2011 03:48 Xiron wrote:Show nested quote +On May 23 2011 03:46 hongo wrote:I feel as though this would be a perversion of the olympics. Don't get me wrong I love esports, but the + Show Spoiler +fact that you have to add that "e" before "sports" is pretty much admitting that it is not a sport, but rather something else that is similar. Sorry but this didnt make much sense for me. It's called eSports because someone did go ahead and called it eSports and it established itself as such. It could have been called sports just as well.
I don't think it could have been called sports just as well because it isn't a sport. I believe that it earned the title "e-sports" because this difference was recognized but people wanted it to still be respected as much as a sport
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On May 23 2011 03:43 moltenlead wrote: For one thing how are countries going to be able to pay for all the computers etc.. that they will need to run the events. This will scare all smaller countries away from hosting the olympics. .
Do you have any conception of how expensive it is to host the olympic games? Rental of computers for the event is a drop in the ocean compared to the expenditure that already goes into the Olympics!! Granted I dont think that the Olympics should include computer games, but the expense is not the reason for it, nor will it ever be.
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it's going to be a while
we're going to have to wait for games like Chess to be made an Olympic competition before thinking that a competitive video game can potentially qualify for the Olympics
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I think they should add powerlifting first.
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Won't happen and shouldn't happen. As much as I love playing video games, they simply do not belong in the olympics.
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Curling is a weird olympic sport. But i don't see any games making it - board or digital. Besides, the Olympic Games aren't the forum for everything - the big team sports aren't a part of it.
When/if international SC2 teams are as established as BW teams in Korea - we can make a IESPA organization and organize a 'champions league'.
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On May 23 2011 05:02 rysecake wrote: Won't happen and shouldn't happen. As much as I love playing video games, they simply do not belong in the olympics.
Agreed.
Sorry guys, but playing a game competitively is just not the same type of competition as athletic events, soccer, hockey, etc.
E-sports, despite it's name, are not sports. They are events, or whatever else you want to call them. But not sports.
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On May 23 2011 02:53 pyrogenetix wrote: well golf just got into the olympics
Point being?..
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shooting with a gun is in the olympics, so esport being no physical activity isnt an argument against it being in the olympics as well
so its just about how conservative the heads of the olympics are
but as far as i know esports should be in the beijing olympics 2008. at least there was an official tournament for wc3, but somehow it started much too late and everything was messed up. it was organized by GGL by the way
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On May 23 2011 05:20 Kurr wrote:Show nested quote +On May 23 2011 05:02 rysecake wrote: Won't happen and shouldn't happen. As much as I love playing video games, they simply do not belong in the olympics. Agreed. Sorry guys, but playing a game competitively is just not the same type of competition as athletic events, soccer, hockey, etc. E-sports, despite it's name, are not sports. They are events, or whatever else you want to call them. But not sports. olympics arent just about sports
well, olympics is just about sports if you can explain how gun shooting is actually a sport
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If I look at disciplines like synchronous swimming or rhythmic gymnastics, eSports certainly has more practicioners and attracts more interest. Still, eSports doesn't belong to the olympic games, and it's not going to happen in the next couple of years.
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Keep esports to WCG and other huge lan events.
On May 23 2011 05:34 imperator-xy wrote:Show nested quote +On May 23 2011 05:20 Kurr wrote:On May 23 2011 05:02 rysecake wrote: Won't happen and shouldn't happen. As much as I love playing video games, they simply do not belong in the olympics. Agreed. Sorry guys, but playing a game competitively is just not the same type of competition as athletic events, soccer, hockey, etc. E-sports, despite it's name, are not sports. They are events, or whatever else you want to call them. But not sports. olympics arent just about sports well, olympics is just about sports if you can explain how gun shooting is actually a sport
What? Shooting a gun isn't like an FPS game where you point and click. You have to do a lot of things to prepare for your shot. It is physical enough.
Let us use the biathalon as an example as to how shooting a rifle is a physical sport.
The 20 kilometres (12 mi) individual race (15 km for women) is the oldest biathlon event; the distance is skied over five laps. The biathlete shoots four times at any shooting lane,[1] in the order of prone, standing, prone, standing, totaling 20 targets. For each missed target a fixed penalty time, usually one minute, is added to the skiing time of the biathlete. Competitors' starts are staggered, normally by 30 seconds.
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