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Sovetsky Soyuz
Profile Joined May 2011
Russian Federation905 Posts
May 22 2011 18:41 GMT
#41
For me the most interesting angle is this:

Maybe the real issue here is our romantic notion of "sports".
Society has moved and is fast moving on towards the nature of what is physical and virtual. Sports are the last remaining strongholds of this, but only because there is an organized and well funded group to promote this. But outside this notion, I think differentiating is simply an soon to be outdated concept. Its like a time lag where all the rest have gone virtual - money, education, even relationship, bu sports remain traditional.
moltenlead
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada866 Posts
May 22 2011 18:43 GMT
#42
Honestly, I would like it if this happens as we would get some more recognition and so respect from the mainstream, but I cannot see this passing.

For one thing how are countries going to be able to pay for all the computers etc.. that they will need to run the events. This will scare all smaller countries away from hosting the olympics.

What I would prefer is if the Olympics would just announce some sort of sponsorship for WCG or something, rather than incorporating esports into the main events. The goal of the olympics is the search of the ultimate athlete, and anything that involves luck (ie... a lack of scouting) or constantly changes (new builds, styles, patches) should not be able to get in the way of the true skill.

It does kind of pain me to say this but Halo/COD (FPS in general) would be better in the olympics than SC/RTS.

Sports like golf (a century old) are just getting into the olympics, we need to establish our own major following before barging into the Olympic Games, and the game needs to be relatively stable. FIFA still debates goalline technology some 20 years after it was available, changing the game ever 4 years just doesn't fit the bill.

This being said, I want Starcraft to become big and global, just the Olympics isn't the right place for it to be.
Rtran10
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada78 Posts
May 22 2011 18:44 GMT
#43
it will never happen, you'd be delusional to even consider it.
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
May 22 2011 18:45 GMT
#44
On May 23 2011 02:49 FlopTurnReaver wrote:
Is Chess an olympic discipline?


No, chess has a separate olympics.
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hongo
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
207 Posts
May 22 2011 18:46 GMT
#45
I feel as though this would be a perversion of the olympics. Don't get me wrong I love esports, but the fact that you have to add that "e" before "sports" is pretty much admitting that it is not a sport, but rather something else that is similar.
Xiron
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1233 Posts
May 22 2011 18:46 GMT
#46
I dont like this idea. If we would go with the times, tennis wouldnt be in olympics but 'virtua tennis 3'. Olympics is fine like it is. I love esports but it simply feels like mixing beer with coke. Some people might find it awesome, but its no real beer anymore.
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Xiron
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1233 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-22 18:49:35
May 22 2011 18:48 GMT
#47
On May 23 2011 03:46 hongo wrote:
I feel as though this would be a perversion of the olympics. Don't get me wrong I love esports, but the fact that you have to add that "e" before "sports" is pretty much admitting that it is not a sport, but rather something else that is similar.


Sorry but this didnt make much sense for me. It's called eSports because someone did go ahead and called it eSports and it established itself as such. It could have been called sports just as well.
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lofung
Profile Joined October 2010
Hong Kong298 Posts
May 22 2011 18:51 GMT
#48
if chess is not going to it then dun bother. there is something called modern boardgames just to let you know. its way superior than e-sports.
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hongo
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
207 Posts
May 22 2011 18:58 GMT
#49
On May 23 2011 03:48 Xiron wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2011 03:46 hongo wrote:
I feel as though this would be a perversion of the olympics. Don't get me wrong I love esports, but the + Show Spoiler +
fact that you have to add that "e" before "sports" is pretty much admitting that it is not a sport, but rather something else that is similar.


Sorry but this didnt make much sense for me. It's called eSports because someone did go ahead and called it eSports and it established itself as such. It could have been called sports just as well.


I don't think it could have been called sports just as well because it isn't a sport. I believe that it earned the title "e-sports" because this difference was recognized but people wanted it to still be respected as much as a sport
BigLighthouse
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom424 Posts
May 22 2011 19:54 GMT
#50
On May 23 2011 03:43 moltenlead wrote:
For one thing how are countries going to be able to pay for all the computers etc.. that they will need to run the events. This will scare all smaller countries away from hosting the olympics.
.


Do you have any conception of how expensive it is to host the olympic games? Rental of computers for the event is a drop in the ocean compared to the expenditure that already goes into the Olympics!! Granted I dont think that the Olympics should include computer games, but the expense is not the reason for it, nor will it ever be.
udgnim
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8024 Posts
May 22 2011 19:57 GMT
#51
it's going to be a while

we're going to have to wait for games like Chess to be made an Olympic competition before thinking that a competitive video game can potentially qualify for the Olympics
E-Sports is competitive video gaming with a spectator fan base. Do not take the word "Sports" literally.
GoTuNk!
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Chile4591 Posts
May 22 2011 20:01 GMT
#52
I think they should add powerlifting first.
rysecake
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2632 Posts
May 22 2011 20:02 GMT
#53
Won't happen and shouldn't happen. As much as I love playing video games, they simply do not belong in the olympics.
The Notorious Winkles
Thrill
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
2599 Posts
May 22 2011 20:09 GMT
#54
Curling is a weird olympic sport. But i don't see any games making it - board or digital. Besides, the Olympic Games aren't the forum for everything - the big team sports aren't a part of it.

When/if international SC2 teams are as established as BW teams in Korea - we can make a IESPA organization and organize a 'champions league'.
Kurr
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada2338 Posts
May 22 2011 20:20 GMT
#55
On May 23 2011 05:02 rysecake wrote:
Won't happen and shouldn't happen. As much as I love playing video games, they simply do not belong in the olympics.


Agreed.

Sorry guys, but playing a game competitively is just not the same type of competition as athletic events, soccer, hockey, etc.

E-sports, despite it's name, are not sports. They are events, or whatever else you want to call them. But not sports.
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Gnax
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden490 Posts
May 22 2011 20:21 GMT
#56
On May 23 2011 02:53 pyrogenetix wrote:
well golf just got into the olympics


Point being?..
imperator-xy
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Germany1377 Posts
May 22 2011 20:33 GMT
#57
shooting with a gun is in the olympics, so esport being no physical activity isnt an argument against it being in the olympics as well

so its just about how conservative the heads of the olympics are



but as far as i know esports should be in the beijing olympics 2008. at least there was an official tournament for wc3, but somehow it started much too late and everything was messed up.
it was organized by GGL by the way
imperator-xy
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Germany1377 Posts
May 22 2011 20:34 GMT
#58
On May 23 2011 05:20 Kurr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2011 05:02 rysecake wrote:
Won't happen and shouldn't happen. As much as I love playing video games, they simply do not belong in the olympics.


Agreed.

Sorry guys, but playing a game competitively is just not the same type of competition as athletic events, soccer, hockey, etc.

E-sports, despite it's name, are not sports. They are events, or whatever else you want to call them. But not sports.

olympics arent just about sports

well, olympics is just about sports if you can explain how gun shooting is actually a sport
Scorch
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Austria3371 Posts
May 22 2011 20:38 GMT
#59
If I look at disciplines like synchronous swimming or rhythmic gymnastics, eSports certainly has more practicioners and attracts more interest. Still, eSports doesn't belong to the olympic games, and it's not going to happen in the next couple of years.
Kralic
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada2628 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-22 20:45:16
May 22 2011 20:41 GMT
#60
Keep esports to WCG and other huge lan events.


On May 23 2011 05:34 imperator-xy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2011 05:20 Kurr wrote:
On May 23 2011 05:02 rysecake wrote:
Won't happen and shouldn't happen. As much as I love playing video games, they simply do not belong in the olympics.


Agreed.

Sorry guys, but playing a game competitively is just not the same type of competition as athletic events, soccer, hockey, etc.

E-sports, despite it's name, are not sports. They are events, or whatever else you want to call them. But not sports.

olympics arent just about sports

well, olympics is just about sports if you can explain how gun shooting is actually a sport


What? Shooting a gun isn't like an FPS game where you point and click. You have to do a lot of things to prepare for your shot. It is physical enough.

Let us use the biathalon as an example as to how shooting a rifle is a physical sport.
The 20 kilometres (12 mi) individual race (15 km for women) is the oldest biathlon event; the distance is skied over five laps. The biathlete shoots four times at any shooting lane,[1] in the order of prone, standing, prone, standing, totaling 20 targets. For each missed target a fixed penalty time, usually one minute, is added to the skiing time of the biathlete. Competitors' starts are staggered, normally by 30 seconds.
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