EPTE-Sports in Olympics - Page 6
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Kogut
United States147 Posts
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hypercube
Hungary2735 Posts
On May 23 2011 12:41 dreamsmasher wrote: for those of you making chess argument, chess just shouldn't be the olympics. I love chess but SC2 makes more sense as an olympic sport. It simply looks more like a sport and can actually be fun to follow even if you know little about it. Ultimately the Olympic Movement is a business organization, so when esports is popular enough we're probably going to see it at the Olympics. | ||
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Amui
Canada10567 Posts
Although I will admit, even as a part of Canada, I don't understand how curling is an olympic sport... esports does take skill. However to prove it to people will require a progamer to actually go out and show why starcraft/whathaveyou is difficult. Also as stated earlier, the cycle rate of games is quite high. Sure, some staples like CS 1.6 and CS:S have lasted ~10 years and still have a strong competitive backing, but for the most part, games phase out. | ||
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nukeball
United States38 Posts
On May 23 2011 13:01 Amui wrote: After having watched some olympics, and wikipedia'd out of interest, some people here don't understand what's so difficult about firing a weapon at a target. For the best possible accuracy, they fire in between breaths, and sometimes even between heartbeats to minimize the chance of a slight miss. Although I will admit, even as a part of Canada, I don't understand how curling is an olympic sport... esports does take skill. However to prove it to people will require a progamer to actually go out and show why starcraft/whathaveyou is difficult. Also as stated earlier, the cycle rate of games is quite high. Sure, some staples like CS 1.6 and CS:S have lasted ~10 years and still have a strong competitive backing, but for the most part, games phase out. true for the main part. But on the other hand starcraft itself has been a very sturdy thing. As for Halo and COD those games are all so very similar that even if they get replaced people already have a basic understanding of what is going on. If you think about esports as in just the game series then alot of stuff has been on top for a very long time. Once again, Halo, COD, Starcraft. With the recent Taiwan league, and the nasl, the ipl too, along with GSL. I have to say that there are starting to become enough leagues around the world that the olympics could take us seriously. As for the firing between breaths. I have to say that takes less work than what the starcraft guys are doing. One more thing.... We are a very organized people. We are supportive and keep up with stuff. That is an edge that say bowlers don't really have. I'm pretty sure a far higher percentage of Starcraft players compared to say bowlers know what is going on in the pro scene. If all it took was for starcraft to become an olympic sport was for enough of the public to go to some site and say yes there would be every stream telling ppl to go there, all the starcraft sites saying to go there, all of us using word of mouth telling others to go there. Posting on facebook and twitter for ppl to go there, even telling strangers on ladder for ppl to go to the site and vote for sc to become an olympic sport. The fact we have such a strong and more importantly active fanbase is what we have going for us. | ||
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JtG
Czech Republic3 Posts
So IMO yes, but not now. | ||
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nukeball
United States38 Posts
On June 05 2011 04:53 JtG wrote: Esports in Olympics is a great idea but its time hasn't come yet, I believe. In ten, twenty years when gaming is accepted by general public as a sport which people have to actually dedicate time to and not just a bunch of kids with nothing better to do, then maybe. Right now they would have a hard time accepting it and anything forced upon someone is destined to be rejected. So IMO yes, but not now. all ya have to do is some positive influence on the public. You forget to mention that people are stupid. It usually doesn't take much to change their mind. i.e. jury at court may suddenly think the guy is guilty just cause the lawyer goes and says that he wasn't at the party when it was busted for cocaine even though his friends were. | ||
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Megaliskuu
United States5123 Posts
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GrimReefer
United States442 Posts
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Sobba
Sweden576 Posts
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Mjolnir
912 Posts
Man, as much as I like video games and competition of any sort in general, this sounds utterly absurd. e-Sports are not Olympic level sports. I agree with the other people here who have said that it would be a better idea to elevate the status of GSL etc. than to add video-gaming to the Olympics. | ||
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LeopoldStotch
United States158 Posts
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Tomken
Norway1144 Posts
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IamBach
United States1059 Posts
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Tomken
Norway1144 Posts
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Volkov
United States71 Posts
- Chess isn't even there, and chess is the closest e-sports gets to what's traditionally viewed as sports. - Fundamental problem with including e-sports (here "sport" is viewed as a competitive activity, not a commonly-accepted definition, but still used occasionally, when talking about things like chess) into the Olympics is this: any competitive game fit for being an e-sport is developed by a given company. For this reason, including e-sports into the Olympics would amount to, essentially, putting TONS of money on that company's hand. There is no way in hell this will happen. - In general, the above problem (the fact that a single company makes the game, keeps it balanced and calls all the shots) is one of the things that will prevent e-sports from ever becoming mainstream. No actual sport is "sold" to you by a single company. There are tons of other problems with considering e-sports to be sports, but the above is one of them. | ||
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Laerties
United States361 Posts
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Volkov
United States71 Posts
On June 05 2011 05:14 GrimReefer wrote: not gonna happen. especially since there are no amateur starcraft 2 players of a high caliber. the olympics hate using professional athletes, they're not going to bend that rule for video game nerds. Was the case 50+ years ago, no longer the case. In many sports, including just about all the major ones (some exceptions though), the competing athletes in Olympics are professionals. | ||
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IamBach
United States1059 Posts
On June 05 2011 05:14 GrimReefer wrote: not gonna happen. especially since there are no amateur starcraft 2 players of a high caliber. the olympics hate using professional athletes, they're not going to bend that rule for video game nerds. It doesn't have to be SC2 lol. Theres tons of excellent amateur BW and CS players. | ||
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rickybobby
United States405 Posts
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white_horse
1019 Posts
-turnover rate is too high -pool of players not big enough -people who care is miniscule compared to olympic sports -esports already has WCG where it belongs | ||
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