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On May 23 2011 02:55 Fighter wrote:
If Chess, Bowling and Billiards haven't made it in, then something without even the tradition of those sports probably won't.
I don't see it happening, and tbh, I don't think it SHOULD. : /
my thoughts exactly, Chess is one of the biggest sports in the world, with lots of money on the line, and its still not in, but gl anyways.
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No, for the same reason chess isn't, wouldn't ever and shouldn't be in the Olympics. It is not a physical sport.
Should there be an olympic-esque event for all 'mental' sports? Absolutely.
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No.
Maybe a simultaneous event, like the paralympics.
But not as Olympic disciplines.
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Where have you been the past 10 years? The Olympics of e-sports is called WCG. The only problem is that a lot of countries aren't represented because of monetary constraints, for example Canada not sending players for BW the last couple of years.
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Im fine with Olympics trying to be an athletic sporting event.
if chess makes it though, id like to see it as well. If not, let it stay athletic and sporting event.
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If we gonna get eSports into OG we first need an official federation/committee for ranking+++, like FIDE in chess, FIS in skiing, FIFA for fotball and so on. This should had been done for YEARS ago, any near this is Kespa in Korea.
An official WM (world masters) tournament would be nice start atleast.
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No.
It should never be allowed, not in the olympics. The olympics are for athletes and athletic competition. Want to play computer games make an event like WCG or something.
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The thing about Olympics is that they're comprised of sports with more competitors than spectators that contribute nothing at all to society, like track and field events which have no spectating value outside of nationalism. And it's amazing to see so much money thrown at such useless sports. Who cares who the fastest man is? It sure as hell doesn't help anyone. The same can kind of be said for gaming but professional gaming is actually able to be entertaining.
The only reason anyone cares for example about track and field events such as the 100m is because it is constantly reported on during the olympics. No one cares about the 100m outside of the Olympics, but people consistently care about starcraft, and chess for example. Of course this is only a problem with the Summer Olympics considering the real olympics only have sports that are entertaining to watch.
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On June 05 2011 12:08 ComusLoM wrote:
The thing about Olympics is that they're comprised of sports with more competitors than spectators that contribute nothing at all to society, like track and field events which have no spectating value outside of nationalism. And it's amazing to see so much money thrown at such useless sports.
All sports are, by definition, 100% useless. Olympics (and most other international competitions, to varying degrees) are, not by definition, but due to their history, opportunities for self-sustaining (i.e., not produced by the state, but rather by people's instincts) nationalist propaganda. So e-sports would not really be any different, at least in this regard.
On June 05 2011 12:08 ComusLoM wrote:
Who cares who the fastest man is? It sure as hell doesn't help anyone. The same can kind of be said for gaming but professional gaming is actually able to be entertaining.
I heard the same argument made by runners, who genuinely enjoy watching competitors in their sports. I think it's a question of: "How much do you need to know about the sport to enjoy watching it?" The nice thing about many sports like football(s), tennis, etc., is that you don't need to know almost anything about them to enjoy watching, versus sports like running, javelin, chess and e-sports require knowing a fair amount about the sport (and generally require some participation experience) to enjoy watching them. So in this sense, e-sports are in the same boat as running.
On June 05 2011 12:08 ComusLoM wrote:
The only reason anyone cares for example about track and field events such as the 100m is because it is constantly reported on during the olympics. No one cares about the 100m outside of the Olympics, but people consistently care about starcraft, and chess for example.
Not true. Not sure about all track and field events, but certainly not true for running.
On June 05 2011 12:08 ComusLoM wrote:Of course this is only a problem with the Summer Olympics considering the real olympics only have sports that are entertaining to watch.
Speed skating is significantly more entertaining than running?
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WCG is too flippant with their line-up of games to be considered 'olympic' in my opinion. All the mobile games and bad console games really cheapen the whole thing. This is actually the thing that will hold e-sports back; the lack of an unchanging platform for each genre. SC2 will last for a long time, sure, but until new StarCraft games stop being developed it's a bit unstable. New whole versions (or game-changing patches for that matter) of 100m sprints don't come out every few years and cause all runners to re-learn a new platform.
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On June 06 2011 09:24 Volkov wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2011 12:08 ComusLoM wrote:Of course this is only a problem with the Summer Olympics considering the real olympics only have sports that are entertaining to watch. Speed skating is significantly more entertaining than running?
Of course since speed skating has the actual excitement of sustained speed.
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On June 05 2011 05:14 GrimReefer wrote:
not gonna happen. especially since there are no amateur starcraft 2 players of a high caliber. the olympics hate using professional athletes, they're not going to bend that rule for video game nerds.
uhh... what?
olympic basketball uses pro players. olympic hockey uses pro players. tennis uses pro players. most of the track and field athletes are pros (they participate in diamond/gold leagues) and so forth and so forth. i don't think there are that many "amateur only" events except for boxing.
the olympics certainly doesn't hate using pros if they're the highest level athletes for their respective event. this amateur argument certainly isn't why sc2 is not going to be an olympic event.
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I feel like the world is changing, and this is something that would be possible, but only if there is a serious effort to expand the community even more.
Also, one thing I wonder, haven't most games at WCG been around for a while? From the top of my head, Starcraft, Counter Strike, Warcraft, Tekken, FIFA, etc. are the most important ones, and they're all big names that have endured at least 8 years (I know it doesn't have a legacy like something such as "running in an oval" or "lifting really heavy shit" has, but that's a good sign.)
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Although I would like to see eSports in the Olympics, the industry has too many branches. Maybe an eSports Olympics? Another reason why I don't think it will work is that people who watch eSports and people who watch the Olympics are 2 very different groups that only certain groups will tune in for what they prefer.
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sc:bw and CS have been in the chinese olympics already i believe
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