EPTI still find this stuff pretty unreal, though it's Africa I guess. I feel kind of like they've had to advance so, so fast culturally in the last 100 years or so.
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Deadeight
United Kingdom1629 Posts
I still find this stuff pretty unreal, though it's Africa I guess. I feel kind of like they've had to advance so, so fast culturally in the last 100 years or so. | ||
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Bortlett
United States302 Posts
On May 11 2011 07:32 Soap wrote: At best proves they don't give a shit. Perhaps we should too. In both cases, because they prefer that answer to that of the majority. Also with nationalist, philosophical, political movements, etc. That was just an example. Why this obsession with gender? I do hope that we are attracted to human beings, not a vagina or a penis, else I'll look for someone out of puberty to discuss with. Nice little jab at the end there along with not really answering any of my questions. That's cool though, I don't want to derail this thread any further, we've both made our points. If you want to continue this discussion, feel free to send me a PM  . | ||
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Pleiades
United States472 Posts
I also find it funny that there is an ad flying to Uganda on the top of the website. | ||
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Omnipresent
United States871 Posts
On May 11 2011 04:02 HULKAMANIA wrote: Actually, I don't think that video explains much. You'll notice that Mr. Harris never derives his moral values from science, he never objectively arrives at a moral statement. What he does is use science to evaluate moral claims that are already in play. He has already decided "what is good," he's just advocating using objective methods to decide just how good. Can you explain how, for instance, neuroscience might answer the question of "what is good"? Or how one might use the scientific method to discover an optimal set of ethics and morals? I'm not even sure this is relevant to to the discussion at hand. If we can't agree that killing people for their person choices (choices which don't effect anyone else), then morality has no meaning. On the off chance that you're actually curious about Sam Harris' argument, he does a better job explaining it here: I think there are still some small holes and some reasonable questions we can ask, but its a good starting point. I think he makes a few assumptions about the growth of neuroscience and the corresponding technology, but they seem like reasonable assumptions. Lets not forget that he understands neuroscience much better than we do, and can therefore make more accurate predictions about what it can determine in the near future. | ||
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Brethern
231 Posts
On May 11 2011 06:39 Bortlett wrote: That's what it should suggest. So you were attracted to men at one point? (I'm assuming you're male) | ||
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DatBoiRijad
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epikAnglory
United States1120 Posts
Btw I noticed the new update on TL at the top of the page, calling it. | ||
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durza
United States667 Posts
On May 11 2011 10:12 iTzAnglory wrote: I would give up to 5 years of imprisonment for being gay, but not the death penalty. Though I despise homosexuality in every way, I will still sign the bill as the punishment is too ridiculous. Honestly, I would only punish if it was homosexuality being displayed in public. Btw I noticed the new update on TL at the top of the page, calling it. I would really like to know how you could justify giving some one five years in prison for being gay, I mean violent criminals in some cases don't get that many years, and being gay doesn't exactly hurt any one else. Really bigoted in my opinion Ontopic: Terrible thing, I signed, and I really hope that Uganda reconsiders. | ||
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Nos-
Canada12016 Posts
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Shiragaku
Hong Kong4308 Posts
As comical as the Eat Da Poo Poo video was, I just feel sick to my stomach that such a man can be taken seriously. Martin Sessma is not only against gay rights, he is against the use of birth control and even burnt a box of condoms to prove how evil it is. Such a backwards man. I cannot imagine how the gays in Uganda, Iran, or many other homophobic nations an put up with this shit. | ||
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epikAnglory
United States1120 Posts
On May 11 2011 10:16 durza wrote: I would really like to know how you could justify giving some one five years in prison for being gay, I mean violent criminals in some cases don't get that many years, and being gay doesn't exactly hurt any one else. Really bigoted in my opinion Ontopic: Terrible thing, I signed, and I really hope that Uganda reconsiders. Welcome to the world's justice system, that is a bit harsh I guess. Maybe a few months then. | ||
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matjlav
Germany2435 Posts
On May 11 2011 10:12 iTzAnglory wrote: I would give up to 5 years of imprisonment for being gay, but not the death penalty. Though I despise homosexuality in every way, I will still sign the bill as the punishment is too ridiculous. Honestly, I would only punish if it was homosexuality being displayed in public. Btw I noticed the new update on TL at the top of the page, calling it. On May 11 2011 10:36 iTzAnglory wrote: Welcome to the world's justice system, that is a bit harsh I guess. Maybe a few months then. ...what the fuck | ||
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wwer
United States53 Posts
On May 11 2011 10:12 iTzAnglory wrote: I would give up to 5 years of imprisonment for being gay, but not the death penalty. Though I despise homosexuality in every way, I will still sign the bill as the punishment is too ridiculous. Honestly, I would only punish if it was homosexuality being displayed in public. Btw I noticed the new update on TL at the top of the page, calling it. This opinion is indefensible. If you wish to privately hold bigoted opinions, then that is your choice. You are suggesting legislation that would abridge the liberty of a significant group of Americans, bigotry is utterly unacceptable as the justification of that legislation. | ||
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matjlav
Germany2435 Posts
On May 11 2011 10:16 durza wrote: I would really like to know how you could justify giving some one five years in prison for being gay, I mean violent criminals in some cases don't get that many years, and being gay doesn't exactly hurt any one else. Really bigoted in my opinion Ontopic: Terrible thing, I signed, and I really hope that Uganda reconsiders. Lol, that's not exactly an opinion... his opinion is the definition of bigotry. | ||
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wwer
United States53 Posts
On May 11 2011 10:36 iTzAnglory wrote: Welcome to the world's justice system, that is a bit harsh I guess. Maybe a few months then. Either justify criminalizing homosexuality without resorting to bigotry, or withdraw this opinion. Even if you're just trolling, there is no excuse for presenting the criminalization homosexuality as a legitimate political stance. | ||
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Simberto
Germany11507 Posts
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DatBoiRijad
100 Posts
On May 11 2011 10:47 wwer wrote: Either justify criminalizing homosexuality without resorting to bigotry, or withdraw this opinion. Even if you're just trolling, there is no excuse for presenting the criminalization homosexuality as a legitimate political stance. I fully support what he says. Maybe two months in jail until they straighten out. You ever hear the bible supporting gay marriage? Islam? Judaism? | ||
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Lazarus Jack
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sikatrix
Canada172 Posts
On May 11 2011 10:12 iTzAnglory wrote: I would give up to 5 years of imprisonment for being gay, but not the death penalty. Though I despise homosexuality in every way, I will still sign the bill as the punishment is too ridiculous. Honestly, I would only punish if it was homosexuality being displayed in public. Btw I noticed the new update on TL at the top of the page, calling it. ..... you can't be serious........... | ||
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matjlav
Germany2435 Posts
On May 11 2011 10:56 DatBoiRijad wrote: I fully support what he says. Maybe two months in jail until they straighten out. You ever hear the bible supporting gay marriage? Islam? Judaism? First of all, your argument relies on the assumption that I care what religion has to say on the subject. But to humor you, I'll mention that the Bible condemns a lot of other things that are not illegal. Of the Ten Commandments, the only commandments that are actually coded into our law are 1) don't kill and 2) don't steal. So... yeah. This isn't a theocracy. (It's interesting how straight religious people that disobey tons of other shit in their respective holy books love to fixate on homosexuality. It's a great way for them to be able to point at someone else and feel superior without having a finger pointed back at them...) | ||
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