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By the way, the Vatican has got very little if any impact on societies who arn't ROMAN CATHOLIC.
If only Roman catholics made up the majority of all religious people in Uganda.
Ooh wait they do...
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well i was gonna come in and be an anti-gay and preach how its a choice and not something your born with, because i mean get real if you say you realised you were gay one day when you kissed a boy, i say if you hadn't heard about it before you would have stuck it where it was designed to be stuck.
anyways wow a death penalty now thats just overboards.
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On May 11 2011 05:54 Brethern wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2011 05:22 Goldfish300 wrote:On May 11 2011 04:58 Brethern wrote:On May 11 2011 04:51 Goldfish300 wrote:On May 11 2011 04:35 Brethern wrote:On May 11 2011 04:28 Djzapz wrote:On May 11 2011 04:11 Brethern wrote:
3. Aggravated homosexuality.
(1) A person commits the offense of aggravated homosexuality where the
(a) person against whom the offence is committed is below the age of 18 years;
(b) offender is a person living with HIV;
(c) offender is a parent or guardian of the person against whom the offence is committed;
(d) offender is a person in authority over the person against whom the offence is committed;
(e) victim of the offence is a person with disability;
(f) offender is a serial offender, or
(g) offender applies, administers or causes to be used by any man or woman any drug, matter or thing with intent to stupefy overpower him or her so as to there by enable any person to have unlawful carnal connection with any person of the same sex,
(2) A person who commits the offence of aggravated homosexuality shall be liable on conviction to suffer death.
(3) Where a person is charged with the offence under this section, that person shall undergo a medical examination to ascertain his or her HIV status.
That part of the bill I'll fully support. That covers rape, molestation, sex with people who may not be able to say no. Read ones who may be deaf unable to speak and blind. and finally scum bags who don't tell the other person they are HIV positive. That part of the bill should be applied to everyone straight and gay. Right now pedos get slap on the wrist sentences ten years in prison and their name on the sex offender list for ten years. Seriously that's a joke. The only part that works is that fact that others in the neighborhood vilify that person. Why would you support that part of the bill, those are not laws, they're just an extension of the "crime" which adds "aggravated" to it. They already have laws in place against those crimes though they're not related to homosexuality. Tell me where is a law that provides a death penalty to someone who rapes a child? I don't recall seeing one. Or where is one that helps protect people without HIV from getting infected from someone with HIV? Supposed I went to a bar I met a gay guy and said early in the evening that I wanted to try it. I got drunk and he decided that a condom was not necessary. All the while not telling me that he has HIV? Don't say it doesn't happen. 90% the spreaders of STD's are males. Getting HIV is a death sentence to someone who may have been curious about a way of life. Why should the infector get away with it? I have heard a case where a man who knowingly spread hiv to several women was taken to court. I don't remember what happened though, shall look it up. If it is shown they spread it intentionally then they shouldn't get away with it. If it was unintentional, then they need telling they have it/educating about how to live with it. I would like to know where your 90% figure came from. Also you make it sound like being gay is a choice. Right now I'm a canadian gun owner. A minority. There's people out there that think anyone who owns guns should have a lobotomy. As they have to be mentally disabled to want guns. There's people who want gays to have lobotomies as well because clearly no one mentally sound would want to have sex with a man. They are humans and they are born with free will. If they want to do a man I can't stop them. But I can do whatever it takes to ensure others have the choice as well. It sounds like you trying to say that because people can choose to do certain things like own a gun, they can choose all aspects of their life. Just like you can choose what foods you like/dislike and who you fall in love with. Personally, I don't believe in free will. The brain is just a chemical structure which has to obey rules like everything else. If it didn't, it wouldn't work. There is no room for free will there. If there is then apple has free will too. It's just atoms and energy too. Adjust someones brain and they act differently. It's been shown in several cases with rats where they changed markers on the rats dna. They could change the rats from being loving attentive parents who paid lots of attention to their pups into parents who ignored their children, and vice-versa. That being said, the idea that I have freewill is hard wired into me and despite what I just said, I act as though I and everyone else have it. I wouldn't know how not to. It's a concept currently required by society. You can't just say he had no choice to do x because of his brain structure and so he isn't responsible because then you could do anything and not be held accountable. The point is that there are some things we don't have control over and who we fall in love with is one of them. Yes, we can chose to ignore it, but thats it. So would you say gay people should just ignore that entire part of their existance and a live alone? If they don't want to be gay they won't be gay. Same reason as I'm here posting. Just because I own SC2 and play it that does not automatically mean I have to come and support teamliquid. Thankfully others don't think like you do otherwise we would still be thinking the earth is flat.
Err what? How did you arrive at that? I pointed out something obvious and you just reiterate your point. Posting on TL is entirly different to falling in love... Thankfully others do think like me and realised the earth isn't flat.
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On May 11 2011 05:54 Brethern wrote:
If they don't want to be gay they won't be gay. Same reason as I'm here posting. Just because I own SC2 and play it that does not automatically mean I have to come and support teamliquid.
Thankfully others don't think like you do otherwise we would still be thinking the earth is flat.
You don't "want" to be gay, that's not how it works. Unless you mean "not having consuensual gay sex", in which case that's pretty unfair to ask a small minority of people and something you'd never force on a straight person.
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On May 11 2011 05:57 Goldfish300 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2011 05:54 Brethern wrote:On May 11 2011 05:22 Goldfish300 wrote:On May 11 2011 04:58 Brethern wrote:On May 11 2011 04:51 Goldfish300 wrote:On May 11 2011 04:35 Brethern wrote:On May 11 2011 04:28 Djzapz wrote:On May 11 2011 04:11 Brethern wrote:
3. Aggravated homosexuality.
(1) A person commits the offense of aggravated homosexuality where the
(a) person against whom the offence is committed is below the age of 18 years;
(b) offender is a person living with HIV;
(c) offender is a parent or guardian of the person against whom the offence is committed;
(d) offender is a person in authority over the person against whom the offence is committed;
(e) victim of the offence is a person with disability;
(f) offender is a serial offender, or
(g) offender applies, administers or causes to be used by any man or woman any drug, matter or thing with intent to stupefy overpower him or her so as to there by enable any person to have unlawful carnal connection with any person of the same sex,
(2) A person who commits the offence of aggravated homosexuality shall be liable on conviction to suffer death.
(3) Where a person is charged with the offence under this section, that person shall undergo a medical examination to ascertain his or her HIV status.
That part of the bill I'll fully support. That covers rape, molestation, sex with people who may not be able to say no. Read ones who may be deaf unable to speak and blind. and finally scum bags who don't tell the other person they are HIV positive. That part of the bill should be applied to everyone straight and gay. Right now pedos get slap on the wrist sentences ten years in prison and their name on the sex offender list for ten years. Seriously that's a joke. The only part that works is that fact that others in the neighborhood vilify that person. Why would you support that part of the bill, those are not laws, they're just an extension of the "crime" which adds "aggravated" to it. They already have laws in place against those crimes though they're not related to homosexuality. Tell me where is a law that provides a death penalty to someone who rapes a child? I don't recall seeing one. Or where is one that helps protect people without HIV from getting infected from someone with HIV? Supposed I went to a bar I met a gay guy and said early in the evening that I wanted to try it. I got drunk and he decided that a condom was not necessary. All the while not telling me that he has HIV? Don't say it doesn't happen. 90% the spreaders of STD's are males. Getting HIV is a death sentence to someone who may have been curious about a way of life. Why should the infector get away with it? I have heard a case where a man who knowingly spread hiv to several women was taken to court. I don't remember what happened though, shall look it up. If it is shown they spread it intentionally then they shouldn't get away with it. If it was unintentional, then they need telling they have it/educating about how to live with it. I would like to know where your 90% figure came from. Also you make it sound like being gay is a choice. Right now I'm a canadian gun owner. A minority. There's people out there that think anyone who owns guns should have a lobotomy. As they have to be mentally disabled to want guns. There's people who want gays to have lobotomies as well because clearly no one mentally sound would want to have sex with a man. They are humans and they are born with free will. If they want to do a man I can't stop them. But I can do whatever it takes to ensure others have the choice as well. It sounds like you trying to say that because people can choose to do certain things like own a gun, they can choose all aspects of their life. Just like you can choose what foods you like/dislike and who you fall in love with. Personally, I don't believe in free will. The brain is just a chemical structure which has to obey rules like everything else. If it didn't, it wouldn't work. There is no room for free will there. If there is then apple has free will too. It's just atoms and energy too. Adjust someones brain and they act differently. It's been shown in several cases with rats where they changed markers on the rats dna. They could change the rats from being loving attentive parents who paid lots of attention to their pups into parents who ignored their children, and vice-versa. That being said, the idea that I have freewill is hard wired into me and despite what I just said, I act as though I and everyone else have it. I wouldn't know how not to. It's a concept currently required by society. You can't just say he had no choice to do x because of his brain structure and so he isn't responsible because then you could do anything and not be held accountable. The point is that there are some things we don't have control over and who we fall in love with is one of them. Yes, we can chose to ignore it, but thats it. So would you say gay people should just ignore that entire part of their existance and a live alone? If they don't want to be gay they won't be gay. Same reason as I'm here posting. Just because I own SC2 and play it that does not automatically mean I have to come and support teamliquid. Thankfully others don't think like you do otherwise we would still be thinking the earth is flat. Err what? How did you arrive at that? I pointed out something obvious and you just reiterate your point. Posting on TL is entirly dirrent to falling in love... Thankfully others do think like me and realised the earth isn't flat.
I choose to register here. Simple as that. If you don't want to be gay you won't if you want to be gay then you will.
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On May 11 2011 05:56 wishbones wrote:
well i was gonna come in and be an anti-gay and preach how its a choice and not something your born with, because i mean get real if you say you realised you were gay one day when you kissed a boy, i say if you hadn't heard about it before you would have stuck it where it was designed to be stuck.
anyways wow a death penalty now thats just overboards.
except you just came in and were an anti-gay and preach how its a choice and not something your born with, because i mean get real if you say you realised you were gay one day when you kissed a boy, i say if you hadn't heard about it before you would have stuck it where it was designed to be stuck.
nice try to slip it in there with one on topic sentence though -__- either way i staunchly dissagree
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On May 11 2011 05:58 Bortlett wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2011 05:54 Brethern wrote:
If they don't want to be gay they won't be gay. Same reason as I'm here posting. Just because I own SC2 and play it that does not automatically mean I have to come and support teamliquid.
Thankfully others don't think like you do otherwise we would still be thinking the earth is flat. You don't "want" to be gay, that's not how it works. Unless you mean "not having consuensual gay sex", in which case that's pretty unfair to ask a small minority of people and something you'd never force on a straight person.
Do you have any evidence of that?
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On May 11 2011 05:56 wishbones wrote:
well i was gonna come in and be an anti-gay and preach how its a choice and not something your born with, because i mean get real if you say you realised you were gay one day when you kissed a boy, i say if you hadn't heard about it before you would have stuck it where it was designed to be stuck.
anyways wow a death penalty now thats just overboards.
Yes it's really a choice. People can't wait to be spat on every day by people like you and put to death by people like you with enough like-minded people around.
The choice bullshit is ridiculous and is a desperate last act to justify hating homosexuals. You know that once you admit to the truth, all that is left is a spitefull little person. A bigot.
Who exactly chooses to be hated by the vast majority of humanity and risk execution? For the hell of it? It's present throughout the animal kingdom aswell, it's a natural thing that occurs in all kinds of species. Humans are no exception.
If you want to be a bigot atleast have a pair and be honest about it. This lying about the choice nonesense only shows you are a spineless bigot.
It's a natural thing. High ranked super famous pastors engage in gay sex, risking everything they have in their lives. The natural urge is stronger then anything else.
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On May 11 2011 05:58 Brethern wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2011 05:57 Goldfish300 wrote:On May 11 2011 05:54 Brethern wrote:On May 11 2011 05:22 Goldfish300 wrote:On May 11 2011 04:58 Brethern wrote:On May 11 2011 04:51 Goldfish300 wrote:On May 11 2011 04:35 Brethern wrote:On May 11 2011 04:28 Djzapz wrote:On May 11 2011 04:11 Brethern wrote:
3. Aggravated homosexuality.
(1) A person commits the offense of aggravated homosexuality where the
(a) person against whom the offence is committed is below the age of 18 years;
(b) offender is a person living with HIV;
(c) offender is a parent or guardian of the person against whom the offence is committed;
(d) offender is a person in authority over the person against whom the offence is committed;
(e) victim of the offence is a person with disability;
(f) offender is a serial offender, or
(g) offender applies, administers or causes to be used by any man or woman any drug, matter or thing with intent to stupefy overpower him or her so as to there by enable any person to have unlawful carnal connection with any person of the same sex,
(2) A person who commits the offence of aggravated homosexuality shall be liable on conviction to suffer death.
(3) Where a person is charged with the offence under this section, that person shall undergo a medical examination to ascertain his or her HIV status.
That part of the bill I'll fully support. That covers rape, molestation, sex with people who may not be able to say no. Read ones who may be deaf unable to speak and blind. and finally scum bags who don't tell the other person they are HIV positive. That part of the bill should be applied to everyone straight and gay. Right now pedos get slap on the wrist sentences ten years in prison and their name on the sex offender list for ten years. Seriously that's a joke. The only part that works is that fact that others in the neighborhood vilify that person. Why would you support that part of the bill, those are not laws, they're just an extension of the "crime" which adds "aggravated" to it. They already have laws in place against those crimes though they're not related to homosexuality. Tell me where is a law that provides a death penalty to someone who rapes a child? I don't recall seeing one. Or where is one that helps protect people without HIV from getting infected from someone with HIV? Supposed I went to a bar I met a gay guy and said early in the evening that I wanted to try it. I got drunk and he decided that a condom was not necessary. All the while not telling me that he has HIV? Don't say it doesn't happen. 90% the spreaders of STD's are males. Getting HIV is a death sentence to someone who may have been curious about a way of life. Why should the infector get away with it? I have heard a case where a man who knowingly spread hiv to several women was taken to court. I don't remember what happened though, shall look it up. If it is shown they spread it intentionally then they shouldn't get away with it. If it was unintentional, then they need telling they have it/educating about how to live with it. I would like to know where your 90% figure came from. Also you make it sound like being gay is a choice. Right now I'm a canadian gun owner. A minority. There's people out there that think anyone who owns guns should have a lobotomy. As they have to be mentally disabled to want guns. There's people who want gays to have lobotomies as well because clearly no one mentally sound would want to have sex with a man. They are humans and they are born with free will. If they want to do a man I can't stop them. But I can do whatever it takes to ensure others have the choice as well. It sounds like you trying to say that because people can choose to do certain things like own a gun, they can choose all aspects of their life. Just like you can choose what foods you like/dislike and who you fall in love with. Personally, I don't believe in free will. The brain is just a chemical structure which has to obey rules like everything else. If it didn't, it wouldn't work. There is no room for free will there. If there is then apple has free will too. It's just atoms and energy too. Adjust someones brain and they act differently. It's been shown in several cases with rats where they changed markers on the rats dna. They could change the rats from being loving attentive parents who paid lots of attention to their pups into parents who ignored their children, and vice-versa. That being said, the idea that I have freewill is hard wired into me and despite what I just said, I act as though I and everyone else have it. I wouldn't know how not to. It's a concept currently required by society. You can't just say he had no choice to do x because of his brain structure and so he isn't responsible because then you could do anything and not be held accountable. The point is that there are some things we don't have control over and who we fall in love with is one of them. Yes, we can chose to ignore it, but thats it. So would you say gay people should just ignore that entire part of their existance and a live alone? If they don't want to be gay they won't be gay. Same reason as I'm here posting. Just because I own SC2 and play it that does not automatically mean I have to come and support teamliquid. Thankfully others don't think like you do otherwise we would still be thinking the earth is flat. Err what? How did you arrive at that? I pointed out something obvious and you just reiterate your point. Posting on TL is entirly dirrent to falling in love... Thankfully others do think like me and realised the earth isn't flat. I choose to register here. Simple as that. If you don't want to be gay you won't if you want to be gay then you will.
So now you show you either stupid or a troll. I chose to register here too. I didn't chose to be straight. It's how I am. I could have sex with a man, but I wouldn't be gay because I wouldn't be attracted to him.
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=define: homosexual&btnG=Search&meta=
It's as simple as.
QED
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This bill is ridiculous.
Being Christian I understand that homosexuality is considered morally wrong for us, but regardless, no person gay or not should be killed for what lifestyle they choose. It's just plain wrong and bad...
I've signed and put on facebook for people to see.
I sincerely hope and PRAY that Uganda will not put this bill into law.
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On May 11 2011 06:05 Soap wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2011 05:58 Bortlett wrote:On May 11 2011 05:54 Brethern wrote:
If they don't want to be gay they won't be gay. Same reason as I'm here posting. Just because I own SC2 and play it that does not automatically mean I have to come and support teamliquid.
Thankfully others don't think like you do otherwise we would still be thinking the earth is flat. You don't "want" to be gay, that's not how it works. Unless you mean "not having consuensual gay sex", in which case that's pretty unfair to ask a small minority of people and something you'd never force on a straight person. Do you have any evidence of that?
I'm gay myself.
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On May 11 2011 06:18 Bortlett wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2011 06:05 Soap wrote:On May 11 2011 05:58 Bortlett wrote:On May 11 2011 05:54 Brethern wrote:
If they don't want to be gay they won't be gay. Same reason as I'm here posting. Just because I own SC2 and play it that does not automatically mean I have to come and support teamliquid.
Thankfully others don't think like you do otherwise we would still be thinking the earth is flat. You don't "want" to be gay, that's not how it works. Unless you mean "not having consuensual gay sex", in which case that's pretty unfair to ask a small minority of people and something you'd never force on a straight person. Do you have any evidence of that? I'm gay myself.
That isn't evidence of anything.
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On May 11 2011 06:20 Soap wrote:
That isn't evidence of anything.
So you think most every gay person is just lying to you when they say it wasn't a matter of choice? How about demonstrated instances of homosexuality in multiple animal species? Or the fact that it makes no logical sense for somebody to choose to be a persecuted minority (*especially* in a place like Uganda)?
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What the fuck?????? Voted
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On May 11 2011 06:18 Bortlett wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2011 06:05 Soap wrote:On May 11 2011 05:58 Bortlett wrote:On May 11 2011 05:54 Brethern wrote:
If they don't want to be gay they won't be gay. Same reason as I'm here posting. Just because I own SC2 and play it that does not automatically mean I have to come and support teamliquid.
Thankfully others don't think like you do otherwise we would still be thinking the earth is flat. You don't "want" to be gay, that's not how it works. Unless you mean "not having consuensual gay sex", in which case that's pretty unfair to ask a small minority of people and something you'd never force on a straight person. Do you have any evidence of that? I'm gay myself.
I love how I'm here trying to defend your lifestyle choice and then you come in and remove any progress I might have made.
Great job. I'm not even going to bother anymore.
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On May 11 2011 05:58 Brethern wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2011 05:57 Goldfish300 wrote:On May 11 2011 05:54 Brethern wrote:On May 11 2011 05:22 Goldfish300 wrote:On May 11 2011 04:58 Brethern wrote:On May 11 2011 04:51 Goldfish300 wrote:On May 11 2011 04:35 Brethern wrote:On May 11 2011 04:28 Djzapz wrote:On May 11 2011 04:11 Brethern wrote:
3. Aggravated homosexuality.
(1) A person commits the offense of aggravated homosexuality where the
(a) person against whom the offence is committed is below the age of 18 years;
(b) offender is a person living with HIV;
(c) offender is a parent or guardian of the person against whom the offence is committed;
(d) offender is a person in authority over the person against whom the offence is committed;
(e) victim of the offence is a person with disability;
(f) offender is a serial offender, or
(g) offender applies, administers or causes to be used by any man or woman any drug, matter or thing with intent to stupefy overpower him or her so as to there by enable any person to have unlawful carnal connection with any person of the same sex,
(2) A person who commits the offence of aggravated homosexuality shall be liable on conviction to suffer death.
(3) Where a person is charged with the offence under this section, that person shall undergo a medical examination to ascertain his or her HIV status.
That part of the bill I'll fully support. That covers rape, molestation, sex with people who may not be able to say no. Read ones who may be deaf unable to speak and blind. and finally scum bags who don't tell the other person they are HIV positive. That part of the bill should be applied to everyone straight and gay. Right now pedos get slap on the wrist sentences ten years in prison and their name on the sex offender list for ten years. Seriously that's a joke. The only part that works is that fact that others in the neighborhood vilify that person. Why would you support that part of the bill, those are not laws, they're just an extension of the "crime" which adds "aggravated" to it. They already have laws in place against those crimes though they're not related to homosexuality. Tell me where is a law that provides a death penalty to someone who rapes a child? I don't recall seeing one. Or where is one that helps protect people without HIV from getting infected from someone with HIV? Supposed I went to a bar I met a gay guy and said early in the evening that I wanted to try it. I got drunk and he decided that a condom was not necessary. All the while not telling me that he has HIV? Don't say it doesn't happen. 90% the spreaders of STD's are males. Getting HIV is a death sentence to someone who may have been curious about a way of life. Why should the infector get away with it? I have heard a case where a man who knowingly spread hiv to several women was taken to court. I don't remember what happened though, shall look it up. If it is shown they spread it intentionally then they shouldn't get away with it. If it was unintentional, then they need telling they have it/educating about how to live with it. I would like to know where your 90% figure came from. Also you make it sound like being gay is a choice. Right now I'm a canadian gun owner. A minority. There's people out there that think anyone who owns guns should have a lobotomy. As they have to be mentally disabled to want guns. There's people who want gays to have lobotomies as well because clearly no one mentally sound would want to have sex with a man. They are humans and they are born with free will. If they want to do a man I can't stop them. But I can do whatever it takes to ensure others have the choice as well. It sounds like you trying to say that because people can choose to do certain things like own a gun, they can choose all aspects of their life. Just like you can choose what foods you like/dislike and who you fall in love with. Personally, I don't believe in free will. The brain is just a chemical structure which has to obey rules like everything else. If it didn't, it wouldn't work. There is no room for free will there. If there is then apple has free will too. It's just atoms and energy too. Adjust someones brain and they act differently. It's been shown in several cases with rats where they changed markers on the rats dna. They could change the rats from being loving attentive parents who paid lots of attention to their pups into parents who ignored their children, and vice-versa. That being said, the idea that I have freewill is hard wired into me and despite what I just said, I act as though I and everyone else have it. I wouldn't know how not to. It's a concept currently required by society. You can't just say he had no choice to do x because of his brain structure and so he isn't responsible because then you could do anything and not be held accountable. The point is that there are some things we don't have control over and who we fall in love with is one of them. Yes, we can chose to ignore it, but thats it. So would you say gay people should just ignore that entire part of their existance and a live alone? If they don't want to be gay they won't be gay. Same reason as I'm here posting. Just because I own SC2 and play it that does not automatically mean I have to come and support teamliquid. Thankfully others don't think like you do otherwise we would still be thinking the earth is flat. Err what? How did you arrive at that? I pointed out something obvious and you just reiterate your point. Posting on TL is entirly dirrent to falling in love... Thankfully others do think like me and realised the earth isn't flat. I choose to register here. Simple as that. If you don't want to be gay you won't if you want to be gay then you will.
i don't understand. in that case why do gays still exist? gays get shit on way more than straight people. gays don't want to get shit on. so... BAM TURN STRAIGHT!!?? so it's not that simple.
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On May 11 2011 06:24 Brethern wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2011 06:18 Bortlett wrote:On May 11 2011 06:05 Soap wrote:On May 11 2011 05:58 Bortlett wrote:On May 11 2011 05:54 Brethern wrote:
If they don't want to be gay they won't be gay. Same reason as I'm here posting. Just because I own SC2 and play it that does not automatically mean I have to come and support teamliquid.
Thankfully others don't think like you do otherwise we would still be thinking the earth is flat. You don't "want" to be gay, that's not how it works. Unless you mean "not having consuensual gay sex", in which case that's pretty unfair to ask a small minority of people and something you'd never force on a straight person. Do you have any evidence of that? I'm gay myself. I love how I'm here trying to defend your lifestyle choice and then you come in and remove any progress I might have made. Great job. I'm not even going to bother anymore.
Twilight zone? You're not defending his lifestyle choices by saying being gay is a choice. Acting on gay tendencies, that's a choice. Having those gay tendencies to being with is no choice. Unlike you(I assume) or I, he doesn't yearn for a women to fill his sexual desires, and according the the handful of gay people I know, it doesn't work even if they try.
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On May 11 2011 06:24 Brethern wrote:I love how I'm here trying to defend your lifestyle choice and then you come in and remove any progress I might have made. Great job. I'm not even going to bother anymore.
Haha, what? Homosexuality isn't a "choice" that needs "defending". It's a fundamental part of who people are that needs to be tolerated, if not accepted.
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On May 11 2011 06:25 Diglett wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2011 05:58 Brethern wrote:On May 11 2011 05:57 Goldfish300 wrote:On May 11 2011 05:54 Brethern wrote:On May 11 2011 05:22 Goldfish300 wrote:On May 11 2011 04:58 Brethern wrote:On May 11 2011 04:51 Goldfish300 wrote:On May 11 2011 04:35 Brethern wrote:On May 11 2011 04:28 Djzapz wrote:On May 11 2011 04:11 Brethern wrote:
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That part of the bill I'll fully support. That covers rape, molestation, sex with people who may not be able to say no. Read ones who may be deaf unable to speak and blind.
and finally scum bags who don't tell the other person they are HIV positive.
That part of the bill should be applied to everyone straight and gay. Right now pedos get slap on the wrist sentences ten years in prison and their name on the sex offender list for ten years.
Seriously that's a joke. The only part that works is that fact that others in the neighborhood vilify that person. Why would you support that part of the bill, those are not laws, they're just an extension of the "crime" which adds "aggravated" to it. They already have laws in place against those crimes though they're not related to homosexuality. Tell me where is a law that provides a death penalty to someone who rapes a child? I don't recall seeing one. Or where is one that helps protect people without HIV from getting infected from someone with HIV? Supposed I went to a bar I met a gay guy and said early in the evening that I wanted to try it. I got drunk and he decided that a condom was not necessary. All the while not telling me that he has HIV? Don't say it doesn't happen. 90% the spreaders of STD's are males. Getting HIV is a death sentence to someone who may have been curious about a way of life. Why should the infector get away with it? I have heard a case where a man who knowingly spread hiv to several women was taken to court. I don't remember what happened though, shall look it up. If it is shown they spread it intentionally then they shouldn't get away with it. If it was unintentional, then they need telling they have it/educating about how to live with it. I would like to know where your 90% figure came from. Also you make it sound like being gay is a choice. Right now I'm a canadian gun owner. A minority. There's people out there that think anyone who owns guns should have a lobotomy. As they have to be mentally disabled to want guns. There's people who want gays to have lobotomies as well because clearly no one mentally sound would want to have sex with a man. They are humans and they are born with free will. If they want to do a man I can't stop them. But I can do whatever it takes to ensure others have the choice as well. It sounds like you trying to say that because people can choose to do certain things like own a gun, they can choose all aspects of their life. Just like you can choose what foods you like/dislike and who you fall in love with. Personally, I don't believe in free will. The brain is just a chemical structure which has to obey rules like everything else. If it didn't, it wouldn't work. There is no room for free will there. If there is then apple has free will too. It's just atoms and energy too. Adjust someones brain and they act differently. It's been shown in several cases with rats where they changed markers on the rats dna. They could change the rats from being loving attentive parents who paid lots of attention to their pups into parents who ignored their children, and vice-versa. That being said, the idea that I have freewill is hard wired into me and despite what I just said, I act as though I and everyone else have it. I wouldn't know how not to. It's a concept currently required by society. You can't just say he had no choice to do x because of his brain structure and so he isn't responsible because then you could do anything and not be held accountable. The point is that there are some things we don't have control over and who we fall in love with is one of them. Yes, we can chose to ignore it, but thats it. So would you say gay people should just ignore that entire part of their existance and a live alone? If they don't want to be gay they won't be gay. Same reason as I'm here posting. Just because I own SC2 and play it that does not automatically mean I have to come and support teamliquid. Thankfully others don't think like you do otherwise we would still be thinking the earth is flat. Err what? How did you arrive at that? I pointed out something obvious and you just reiterate your point. Posting on TL is entirly dirrent to falling in love... Thankfully others do think like me and realised the earth isn't flat. I choose to register here. Simple as that. If you don't want to be gay you won't if you want to be gay then you will. i don't understand. in that case why do gays still exist? gays get shit on way more than straight people. gays don't want to get shit on. so... BAM TURN STRAIGHT!!?? so it's not that simple. Same reason that starcraft is still popular. It gets crapped on more than any other game. From people saying it sucks to people whining about IMBA. It's here because people love it and they choose to support it even with everything that's going on.
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