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Cried again during the scene with Alfred in front of the graves
Really loved the film to be honest.
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schmutttt
Australia3856 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + Cried again during the scene with Alfred in front of the graves Really loved the film to be honest. | ||
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Uncultured
United States1340 Posts
Still, an amazing movie. | ||
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Femari
United States2900 Posts
On July 26 2012 17:42 Warlock40 wrote: Spoilers. So true. I hate to say it but Nolan should totally have stolen his Inception ending and made it ambiguous as to what Alfred saw at the end. To make it so obvious that Bruce was still alive, eh. Also, random nitpick, but I wish the script could have been written so that the cafe had some sort of significance to it. Maybe Alfred could have made a remark about how the Waynes used to always go to that cafe when on vacation, you know, some sort of comment to make that cafe special. Then it would make sense why Alfred would have just a little hope of seeing Bruce at that cafe. I mean, ffs, this is Florence here, I bet there are a thousand cafes there alone. If that really was just some random cafe, then geez. Of all the gin joints in all the towns in all the world, amirite? You act like he wouldn't be able to find out which place Alfred was going to. I mean, Bruce was Batman after all. | ||
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Novalisk
Israel1818 Posts
On July 26 2012 17:42 Warlock40 wrote: Spoilers. So true. I hate to say it but Nolan should totally have stolen his Inception ending and made it ambiguous as to what Alfred saw at the end. To make it so obvious that Bruce was still alive, eh. Also, random nitpick, but I wish the script could have been written so that the cafe had some sort of significance to it. Maybe Alfred could have made a remark about how the Waynes used to always go to that cafe when on vacation, you know, some sort of comment to make that cafe special. Then it would make sense why Alfred would have just a little hope of seeing Bruce at that cafe. I mean, ffs, this is Florence here, I bet there are a thousand cafes there alone. If that really was just some random cafe, then geez. Of all the gin joints in all the towns in all the world, amirite? The inception ending was like that for a reason, and that was to prove the point that Cobb didn't care about what's real or isn't real anymore. What would Alfred getting up and smiling prove? Nothing, it's just gimmicky suspense. Instead of 90% of bruce being alive, it's 100%. Big whoop. I for one loved the closure, it's a fitting end to such an epic trilogy. | ||
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Aerisky
United States12129 Posts
On July 26 2012 18:09 Femari wrote: You act like he wouldn't be able to find out which place Alfred was going to. I mean, Bruce was Batman after all. No his point wasn't that Bruce shouldn't have been able to find that cafe; it was that they should have given us something about the cafe to make it special (i.e. why should he go to this cafe in particular out of so many choices). I'm still on a slight emotional high, enjoyed it a a ton ~ :3 | ||
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Femari
United States2900 Posts
On July 26 2012 18:13 Aerisky wrote: No his point wasn't that Bruce shouldn't have been able to find that cafe; it was that they should have given us something about the cafe to make it special (i.e. why should he go to this cafe in particular out of so many choices). I'm still on a slight emotional high, enjoyed it a a ton ~ :3 I think that's irrelevant. The point of Alfred saying that was that he wanted it to be by chance, not a special place, but just a chance sighting that let him know he was happy. The place isn't significant. It's him seeing Bruce happy. That's the point of Alfred's story. | ||
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Aerisky
United States12129 Posts
On July 26 2012 18:17 Femari wrote: I think that's irrelevant. The point of Alfred saying that was that he wanted it to be by chance, not a special place, but just a chance sighting that let him know he was happy. The place isn't significant. It's him seeing Bruce happy. That's the point of Alfred's story. I don't know what to say. I mean yeah, what matters is that he wants to see Bruce happy of course. But he mentions going to the exact same cafe every year (or whatever the period it was), so I in retrospect I thought a few seconds' worth of adding some value to said cafe, however superficial, would have been appreciated (by me at least). | ||
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Lightwip
United States5497 Posts
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Femari
United States2900 Posts
On July 26 2012 18:23 Aerisky wrote: I don't know what to say. I mean yeah, what matters is that he wants to see Bruce happy of course. But he mentions going to the exact same cafe every year (or whatever the period it was), so I in retrospect I thought a few seconds' worth of adding some value to said cafe, however superficial, would have been appreciated (by me at least). I still don't like that. I feel like adding significance to a thing that is meant to be insignificant takes away from the main point of it. It's supposed to be by chance. Alfred wanted him to be there by chance, not because he knew he'd be there (obviously he did in the end). I think seeing people by chance, when they're unprepared for you, shows you a bit more of the person and well if you see Bruce smiling and happy by chance, it's probably genuine. Just my personal thoughts on that. | ||
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Aerisky
United States12129 Posts
On July 26 2012 18:39 Femari wrote: I still don't like that. I feel like adding significance to a thing that is meant to be insignificant takes away from the main point of it. It's supposed to be by chance. Alfred wanted him to be there by chance, not because he knew he'd be there (obviously he did in the end). I think seeing people by chance, when they're unprepared for you, shows you a bit more of the person and well if you see Bruce smiling and happy by chance, it's probably genuine. Just my personal thoughts on that. Fair enough! I see where you coming from on that ^^ But really, that movie was just incredible. I went into it just wanting to have a good time and didn't really care to nitpick etc. Just enjoyed it a lot and look forward to seeing it more, perhaps in IMAX and then later with subs so I can figure out what everyone was saying. | ||
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heishe
Germany2284 Posts
I loved it. I'm happy that I didn't read about it beforehand, since some people seem to be disappointed by the film and I would've probably gone into it biased. | ||
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Steel
Japan2283 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + I don't really get why you need to bring in the guy from the first movie as a plot twist, and then keep putting in plot twist after plot twist...doesn't make the story feel solid at all. It just seems silly that they go 'OH I'M ACTUALLY THE DAUGHTER', stabs batman (actually he isn't hurt) leaves in a car and then dies 8 minutes later?? So yeah, the characters and the acting and the action was real nice and everything, but the plot didn't entirely work out for me... Of course I'm being critical because the second movie was so good, with that Gotham & Batman feel, but still. | ||
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Ange777
Germany1164 Posts
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zocktol
Germany1928 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + The scene with Alfred and Bruce was so fucking amazing in my eyes, glassy eyes nearly every time, Michael Caine so amazing acting. Only thing that annoyed me was that Wayne comes back and has to safe the city within 1 day ... could have given him at least 2 or 3 days to get shit done. Otherwise really liked it, although bane did not get the ending he deserved, but the ending he needed  | ||
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SRBNikola
Serbia191 Posts
This is awesome post, you should check it out, many things i didnt know and didnt saw i learned here  | ||
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TOloseGT
United States1145 Posts
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mikedebo
Canada4341 Posts
Also, large chunks of the movie were devoted to Bane and the progression of his story. This worked in Dark Knight b/c a) Joker had no backstory and b) holyshit was he done well. He could carry the film on his own. Bane was terribly boring unless he was punching something in the face. Finally, + Show Spoiler + I really wish they hadn't hyperfocused on the evil chick's tattoo/scar after Bruce slept with her. I haven't read any comics, so I had no idea at that point that she might be evil. After that camera-still, I was like FML she's the bad guy lol. I just kept waiting for her to bite after that. I think the best-done part of the movie was Catwoman. They did a reasonably good job with a character that is just a terrible idea in the first place. She's normally a total cheese, and this time she came across as halfway (hathoway?) believable. Never mind that she had perfect makeup after 60 days in post-occupation Gotham... lol I still got really jacked up at the fights. To be honest, what I _really_ expected to happen was for + Show Spoiler + Robin to take over for Bruce right after Bruce's back was broken. I thought for sure we'd have Batman Beyond thing happen, where Bruce would be paralyzed and had to fight for Gotham by teaching Robin everything he knows under a time constraint. Instead he went Wolverine and somehow recovered from a broken spine :| haha but what are ya gonna do. Still very much worth the money, and on par with the first film in the series I'd say. GG Nolan | ||
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Aerisky
United States12129 Posts
Definitely going to rewatch this movie too  | ||
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Warlock40
601 Posts
On July 26 2012 23:02 TOloseGT wrote: I'm such a pussy. I watched it three times and all three times I tear up at the end. I will not lie, I cried twice in one showing | ||
Telcontar
United Kingdom16710 Posts
- Cheesy one-liners. I get that you can't avoid them in blockbuster actions films like these, but they were just weak and way too frequent. - The shift from the epic crime/noir tone TDK set. The whole 'gotham must be destroyed by the LOS' stuff got old. - Very convenient plot sequences. I'm talking about things like Blake randomly catching Selina just as she's about to leave Gotham, and Bruce coming back just in the nick of time to save Gordon. It just felt cheap seeing Nolan force things to get the plot in the direction of his choosing and make it seem dramatic, instead of letting it flow naturally (or at least disguising it). Very ham-fisted progression of the plot and creating tension/drama. - The unbelievability was at times, unbearable. Things like one guy modifying a fusion core into a nuclear bomb all by himself, and the big battle between the police & Bane's mercs. Seriously, Batman takes out one tumbler, and it goes into a full-out melee instead of Bane's mercs just making patty of the cops? Come on. It was just taxing letting stuff like this go. - Blake's knowledge of Batman's identity. Oh come on. He figured it out after seeing Bruce Wayne's fake smile once, way back when? Who writes stuff like this? Also, this guy went from just a normal cop to super detective way too fast. - Selina's inability to figure out Bruce was the so-called 'powerful friend'. She must be a total idiot compared to Blake. She didn't get they were one and the same until Bane reveals it in the sewers. - Bane's lame death (and the inevitable one-liner that follows). - Fight sequences are still not Nolan's strong suit. The guy needs to hire a better choreographer. - Very, very rushed 'romance' between Bruce & Talia, and Bruce & Selina. - The Talia & ending twists were very predictable. It just feels like Nolan's still relying on clever tricks to 'make' his films. I'm sure I'm leaving some things out, but I'll need to see the film more than once to recall them. Oh, and I didn't get the whole 'a citizen has the trigger' bit. Anyone want to explain what the hell that was about? | ||
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