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Kazeyonoma
United States2912 Posts
On July 26 2012 22:16 SRBNikola wrote: http://www.reddit.com/r/movies/comments/x5ms7/the_dark_knight_trilogy_explained/ This is awesome post, you should check it out, many things i didnt know and didnt saw i learned here  Amaaazing read. should be put into the OP or something. | ||
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SRBNikola
Serbia191 Posts
On July 27 2012 02:04 Telcontar wrote: So, here are my gripes with the film, both big and small. Spoilers abound, obviously. - Cheesy one-liners. I get that you can't avoid them in blockbuster actions films like these, but they were just weak and way too frequent. - The shift from the epic crime/noir tone TDK set. The whole 'gotham must be destroyed by the LOS' stuff got old. - Very convenient plot sequences. I'm talking about things like Blake randomly catching Selina just as she's about to leave Gotham, and Bruce coming back just in the nick of time to save Gordon. It just felt cheap seeing Nolan force things to get the plot in the direction of his choosing and make it seem dramatic, instead of letting it flow naturally (or at least disguising it). Very ham-fisted progression of the plot and creating tension/drama. - The unbelievability was at times, unbearable. Things like one guy modifying a fusion core into a nuclear bomb all by himself, and the big battle between the police & Bane's mercs. Seriously, Batman takes out one tumbler, and it goes into a full-out melee instead of Bane's mercs just making patty of the cops? Come on. It was just taxing letting stuff like this go. - Blake's knowledge of Batman's identity. Oh come on. He figured it out after seeing Bruce Wayne's fake smile once, way back when? Who writes stuff like this? Also, this guy went from just a normal cop to super detective way too fast. - Selina's inability to figure out Bruce was the so-called 'powerful friend'. She must be a total idiot compared to Blake. She didn't get they were one and the same until Bane reveals it in the sewers. - Bane's lame death (and the inevitable one-liner that follows). - Fight sequences are still not Nolan's strong suit. The guy needs to hire a better choreographer. - Very, very rushed 'romance' between Bruce & Talia, and Bruce & Selina. - The Talia & ending twists were very predictable. It just feels like Nolan's still relying on clever tricks to 'make' his films. I'm sure I'm leaving some things out, but I'll need to see the film more than once to recall them. Oh, and I didn't get the whole 'a citizen has the trigger' bit. Anyone want to explain what the hell that was about? 1.) There are 2-3 one liners, and some of them like xxxxx, you have my permision to die are AWESOME both when bane and batman say them. 2.) Gotham is occupied... 3.) They are searching for her for kidnapping that police guy, its not random, they were after her. He is batman and EX bilionare he definetly can come anytime... 4.) That is totaly possible and its not weird at all, i am studying quantumn physics next year but i am sure it is possible since exposing nuclear stuff close to anything can make it unstable and dangerous. 5.) Blake was there when Reachel learned that batman si Wayne, he is Joffrey from first movie... 6.) Yep it sucks. 7.) First fight where bane breaks batman was some of best moments i ever experianced in movie. 8.) I agree, i hate love motives in movies... 9.) It wasn't predictable, i for once knowing comics and all i thought Talia would help batman rather then Bane. | ||
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crawlingchaos
Canada2025 Posts
I know she knew the dude Bane was working with (who she met at that bar) and Bane showed up on the roof top fight, but what was her connection to Bane himself? Unless I missed something it doesn't seem like a (relatively) petty, self-interested criminal/thief would be crossing paths with a criminal of much a higher stature and vision like Bane. | ||
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KainiT
Austria392 Posts
was alfreds line "i swore to them that i will protect you and i haven't" not in the movie or did I miss it? / trailer scene at 00:23 were did bane get all his extremely loyal servants? are all those members of the leauge of shadows? that would be pretty strange... what are banes intentions? is he in love with talia? that's pretty weird since he met her when she was a child and what's up with his knee? and why did it work again in the prison(where he didn't had that technical thing)? | ||
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Gnosis
Scotland912 Posts
On July 27 2012 05:17 KainiT wrote: i also got some questions: was alfreds line "i swore to them that i will protect you and i haven't" not in the movie or did I miss it? Alfred said this at the very end of the movie... | ||
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LovE-
United States1963 Posts
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GrimmJ
Canada131 Posts
On July 27 2012 05:17 KainiT wrote: i also got some questions: was alfreds line "i swore to them that i will protect you and i haven't" not in the movie or did I miss it? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GokKUqLcvD8 / trailer scene at 00:23 were did bane get all his extremely loyal servants? are all those members of the leauge of shadows? that would be pretty strange... what are banes intentions? is he in love with talia? that's pretty weird since he met her when she was a child and what's up with his knee? and why did it work again in the prison(where he didn't had that technical thing)? I'm pretty sure, at some point in the movie it says that Bane and his men are from South Africa. They aren't part of the league of shadows, just mercenaries. He's more of a guardian. She didn't have a father in the prison, and I think that's the affection you see. The knee thing was a brace of sort. Why did it work in prison? Maybe it finally healed into place. These questions are sort of answered, and sort of up to your imagination. Like a book, interpret as you like. | ||
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Velr
Switzerland10809 Posts
On July 26 2012 17:42 Warlock40 wrote: Spoilers. So true. I hate to say it but Nolan should totally have stolen his Inception ending and made it ambiguous as to what Alfred saw at the end. To make it so obvious that Bruce was still alive, eh. Also, random nitpick, but I wish the script could have been written so that the cafe had some sort of significance to it. Maybe Alfred could have made a remark about how the Waynes used to always go to that cafe when on vacation, you know, some sort of comment to make that cafe special. Then it would make sense why Alfred would have just a little hope of seeing Bruce at that cafe. I mean, ffs, this is Florence here, I bet there are a thousand cafes there alone. If that really was just some random cafe, then geez. Of all the gin joints in all the towns in all the world, amirite? A friend of mine once met a good friend from our village (2000 inhabitants) in Los Angeles at a totally random Bar on his only night there while travelling the US for over 2 Months. They did not even know that they both were on an US trip. That makes me believe such stuff kinda esily ^^ Liked the Movie . Sure you can rip it a part, but you could also do that with Begins, TDK and next to every movie there is... IF you want to, i don't. | ||
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heroyi
United States1064 Posts
On July 27 2012 05:17 KainiT wrote: i also got some questions: was alfreds line "i swore to them that i will protect you and i haven't" not in the movie or did I miss it? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GokKUqLcvD8 / trailer scene at 00:23 were did bane get all his extremely loyal servants? are all those members of the leauge of shadows? that would be pretty strange... what are banes intentions? is he in love with talia? that's pretty weird since he met her when she was a child and what's up with his knee? and why did it work again in the prison(where he didn't had that technical thing)? I thought those men were part of the League of Shadows thus the quote "...Bane said not to worry about his men caught. They would die before they speak." That and his association with Talia, who is leader of the league of shadows due to the father's death. Bane believed in what Talia and his father wanted, "balance." No I think Bane likes Talia as in a father-daughter relationship. I thought his knee had a severe arthritis lacking cartilage which was shown at the x-ray examination at the hospital? | ||
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Xiphos
Canada7507 Posts
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EpiK
Korea (South)5757 Posts
On July 27 2012 06:26 Xiphos wrote: Guys, what are the chances that Christian Bale will appear as Batman in a Justice League movie? how can any of us answer that and even if we could why would you believe it? It would be awesome to see him in it though | ||
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Xiphos
Canada7507 Posts
On July 27 2012 06:28 EpiK wrote: how can any of us answer that and even if we could why would you believe it? It would be awesome to see him in it though If enough people believed that Mr. Bale is going to be casted as the bat, then by the combine will of the majority, he shall be! | ||
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3DGlaDOS
Germany607 Posts
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Cereb
Denmark3388 Posts
On July 26 2012 23:44 Warlock40 wrote: I will not lie, I cried twice in one showing I thought it was just me!! Such a great movie! | ||
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Ghostcom
Denmark4782 Posts
On July 27 2012 06:26 Xiphos wrote: Guys, what are the chances that Christian Bale will appear as Batman in a Justice League movie? http://movies.yahoo.com/blogs/movie-talk/christian-bale-opens-door-another-batman-movie-184704827.html Miniscule I think  Bale seems to be up for it, but only if Nolan is, and Nolan seems rather definitive in this being the last. | ||
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TurboMaN
Germany925 Posts
In the end of TDKR you see Blake discovering the Bat Cave and this opens room for more, a Batman & Robin Movie maybe. That would perfectly fit, because Blake quit his job as a police officer | ||
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i_imperator
Ireland94 Posts
Christopher Nolan is a genius, a complete genius, and he did not disappoint me! + Show Spoiler + And i thought the ending was great aswel, nice to see that they did not completely kill off batman.However i'd be surprised if a reboot could ever top this trilogy. | ||
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Random_Guy09
Canada1010 Posts
On July 27 2012 06:26 Xiphos wrote: Guys, what are the chances that Christian Bale will appear as Batman in a Justice League movie? I think it was said that Christian Bale would not do another Batman movie unless Nolan was directing. That would probably include justice league. | ||
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tokicheese
Canada739 Posts
I do hope that there is a fourth movie of the same quality with the same crew but it seems that is a long shot... Bane has fucktons of money at his disposal do you really think he couldn't just get an IV for his nutrients? I can't see it being that difficult tbh but I don't know the ins and outs of feeding via IV. It was strange how he had the incredibly loyal followers seemingly out of nowhere. Also LOL at the police charging the thugs. One cop took a swing at a thug and it missed by miles right in the center of the screen and the thug went down still. That was the only scene I didn't really like. I don't care how many cops there are if you run in a line at a bunch of AK wielding people your just gonna get mowed down... | ||
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Chriscras
Korea (South)2812 Posts
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/5Eq3T.png) Is it just me or is Katie Holmes not wearing a bra with that shirt? | ||
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