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Note: a number of sources are saying that Beast Master Casey has been suspended for 4 days and that the rat boy was suspended for 21. Look around for more sources please. |
On March 16 2011 07:40 Holgerius wrote:
What's up with the notion that since nothing serious happened to the bully it's fine? If I went out drinking and driving last night and ended up getting home safely without hurting anyone or myself, that means it's a totally acceptable behaviour, right? Except it isn't. It's reckless and irresponsible, and the same thing goes for this violence IMO.
a really really bad comparison.
if someone gets out a machine gun in a crowed place and bullets start flying arround its the wrong thing to kill the madman? No its not its a needed thing to prevent ppl from getting killed. If a mad(wo)man (we wanna be gender equal in swe right?) is crying arround and punching random ppl its the wrong thing to kill him/her but knocking him/her out would be ok.
exactly what has happened here, the bully attack him he knocked him out, the shit is eaten, all go home, someone has hopefully learned a lesson.
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On March 16 2011 07:40 lundell100 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2011 07:37 shwaffles wrote:On March 16 2011 07:30 lundell100 wrote:On March 16 2011 07:26 cromat wrote:On March 16 2011 07:23 lundell100 wrote:On March 16 2011 07:16 Belligerentz wrote:On March 16 2011 07:08 lundell100 wrote:On March 16 2011 07:05 Belligerentz wrote:On March 16 2011 06:55 lundell100 wrote:On March 16 2011 06:35 sureshot_ wrote:
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Have you ever been in a situation such as this? If finding an adult and showing this material was that easy bullying wouldn't be nearly as bad of a problem in the first place. First off, he wasn't recording the video, the bully's friend was. Second, the psychological damage from being bullied is almost, if not worse, than the physical damage. It's like telling people in a state of depression to just... feel happier. It doesn't work like that. I've never been in such a severe case of bullying but in my past I have felt the tensions of situations similar to this. It makes you feel trapped in a sense and honestly you aren't processing how to get these kids in trouble with the least amount of damage possible. Finally what Casey did was self-defense. He took a blow to the face, waited, watched as a little kid continued to show signs of taking aggressive action, then snapped. Maybe he over did it out of anger, but the difference is he backed off once the kid was disabled, he didn't continue to attack. Sure, getting bullied is extreme torture not only mentally but physically aswell, but do you really think that this solved anything? I never said that it was EASY for Casey to tell the teachers, I said that it was the RIGHT thing to do. What solved your bully problems, did you also hulksmash your bully? when i was being constantly bullied emotionally i took it in stride but the anger that builds up starts eating away, eventually even the strongest most seemingly happy people can contemplate ending it, especialyl if ( like in my case) there have been other emotionally issues in their life. when it turned to violence i had had enough and smashed 2 of the bullys. it worked. I try to avoid violence at all costs, i'm a big guy and i could throw my weight around but i don't like to, if a fight can be avoided i'll avoid it, but i learnt from the bullying i went through when it gets to a certain point pacifism isn't going to solve anything. fact of the matter is, all schools anti-bullying system is flawed and in the worst cases these people kill themselves, i never got to that point but if i hadn't stood up for myself i don't know how much worse the bullying would have got. bullying snowballs, the more you take the more they'll give. telling a teacher is the right thing to do, if you want it to get worse, all that will happen is the bully will try to make it even less hard to prove it's happening and most likely be more malicious for the attempt to get him into trouble. I don't enjoy violence, but it does, at the end of the day, get things resolved. i'd say 90% of bullies would most likely not even go near anyone they thought would ever fight back. If you think about it this way: What if the bully got killed? What if he hit his head in the ground and got paralyzed for the rest of his life? Would he have deserved that? no, but he would have deserved any ridicule he recieved while paralysed. ok how abotu this, casey didnt fight back, he got hit again and again, then went home and slashed his wrists open with his dads razor and died. would he have deserved that? did he deserve being alienated? singled out for abuse? made to feel unsafe in a palce he is legally forced to go to for 7-9 hours a day? to be made the punching bag for any slimy creep who wants to beat on someone to make themself feel better abotu daddy and mummy not loving them? to have things said to him so often abotu himself that he starts to believe them? So what you're actually implying is this: If you want to not be bullied, you turn to physical violence and you hurt the person that's bullying you. This is NOT how the world works. The civilized way to solve this is to either turn to the parents, or to your teachers. Do you seriously think that this mindset works later in life? If you get bullied at your workplace when you're an adult, do you think that you can just go to that person and beat the shit out of him, and everything will turn out alright? No! clearly you don't know how bullying works. telling the parents or teachers will solve nothing. if it did then bullying wouldn't exist. please don't post ignorant comments. You're implying that turning to physical force is the right thing to do, and you're calling me ignorant. There's no point in arguing with you. It's funny that you didn't respond to my answer. Look if this was just verbal bullying, then your 100% correct. However, this is NOT the case. Casey needed to defend himself, and he RIGHTFULLY did. He did not attack the bully as he was trying to get back on his feet, instead he did the RIGHT thing and walked away. He didn't add salt to the wounds, but only did enough to defend himself. I agree with you, you have the right to defend yourself sometimes, in extreme cases, but in this case, I think the right thing to do would have been just to run away. Casey got lucky, this turned out to be good for him, but the way that he just picked up that kid and smashed him to the ground could've turned out soooooooo bad. Think about that.
So are you saying Casey, at the time, was thinking logically like you are now? If the other guy is hitting you, then fight back. It's clear that Casey is NOT a black belt in Judo or Jiu-Jitsu. Again, your thinking about what could've happened but never actually did. How extreme does the case have to be for you? When this kid starts pulling knives or getting all of his friends on Casey? At that point Casey can't defend himself, but that little shitty bully got his ass stomped before that.
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On March 16 2011 07:49 shwaffles wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2011 07:40 lundell100 wrote:On March 16 2011 07:37 shwaffles wrote:On March 16 2011 07:30 lundell100 wrote:On March 16 2011 07:26 cromat wrote:On March 16 2011 07:23 lundell100 wrote:On March 16 2011 07:16 Belligerentz wrote:On March 16 2011 07:08 lundell100 wrote:On March 16 2011 07:05 Belligerentz wrote:On March 16 2011 06:55 lundell100 wrote:
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Sure, getting bullied is extreme torture not only mentally but physically aswell, but do you really think that this solved anything? I never said that it was EASY for Casey to tell the teachers, I said that it was the RIGHT thing to do. What solved your bully problems, did you also hulksmash your bully? when i was being constantly bullied emotionally i took it in stride but the anger that builds up starts eating away, eventually even the strongest most seemingly happy people can contemplate ending it, especialyl if ( like in my case) there have been other emotionally issues in their life. when it turned to violence i had had enough and smashed 2 of the bullys. it worked. I try to avoid violence at all costs, i'm a big guy and i could throw my weight around but i don't like to, if a fight can be avoided i'll avoid it, but i learnt from the bullying i went through when it gets to a certain point pacifism isn't going to solve anything. fact of the matter is, all schools anti-bullying system is flawed and in the worst cases these people kill themselves, i never got to that point but if i hadn't stood up for myself i don't know how much worse the bullying would have got. bullying snowballs, the more you take the more they'll give. telling a teacher is the right thing to do, if you want it to get worse, all that will happen is the bully will try to make it even less hard to prove it's happening and most likely be more malicious for the attempt to get him into trouble. I don't enjoy violence, but it does, at the end of the day, get things resolved. i'd say 90% of bullies would most likely not even go near anyone they thought would ever fight back. If you think about it this way: What if the bully got killed? What if he hit his head in the ground and got paralyzed for the rest of his life? Would he have deserved that? no, but he would have deserved any ridicule he recieved while paralysed. ok how abotu this, casey didnt fight back, he got hit again and again, then went home and slashed his wrists open with his dads razor and died. would he have deserved that? did he deserve being alienated? singled out for abuse? made to feel unsafe in a palce he is legally forced to go to for 7-9 hours a day? to be made the punching bag for any slimy creep who wants to beat on someone to make themself feel better abotu daddy and mummy not loving them? to have things said to him so often abotu himself that he starts to believe them? So what you're actually implying is this: If you want to not be bullied, you turn to physical violence and you hurt the person that's bullying you. This is NOT how the world works. The civilized way to solve this is to either turn to the parents, or to your teachers. Do you seriously think that this mindset works later in life? If you get bullied at your workplace when you're an adult, do you think that you can just go to that person and beat the shit out of him, and everything will turn out alright? No! clearly you don't know how bullying works. telling the parents or teachers will solve nothing. if it did then bullying wouldn't exist. please don't post ignorant comments. You're implying that turning to physical force is the right thing to do, and you're calling me ignorant. There's no point in arguing with you. It's funny that you didn't respond to my answer. Look if this was just verbal bullying, then your 100% correct. However, this is NOT the case. Casey needed to defend himself, and he RIGHTFULLY did. He did not attack the bully as he was trying to get back on his feet, instead he did the RIGHT thing and walked away. He didn't add salt to the wounds, but only did enough to defend himself. I agree with you, you have the right to defend yourself sometimes, in extreme cases, but in this case, I think the right thing to do would have been just to run away. Casey got lucky, this turned out to be good for him, but the way that he just picked up that kid and smashed him to the ground could've turned out soooooooo bad. Think about that. So are you saying Casey, at the time, was thinking logically like you are now? If the other guy is hitting you, then fight back. It's clear that Casey is NOT a black belt in Judo or Jiu-Jitsu. Again, your thinking about what could've happened but never actually did. How extreme does the case have to be for you? When this kid starts pulling knives or getting all of his friends on Casey? At that point Casey can't defend himself, but that little shitty bully got his ass stomped before that.
according to him, never. casey should have just ran away from the knives!!
honestly i think he's trolling us
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On March 16 2011 07:40 lundell100 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2011 07:37 shwaffles wrote:On March 16 2011 07:30 lundell100 wrote:On March 16 2011 07:26 cromat wrote:On March 16 2011 07:23 lundell100 wrote:On March 16 2011 07:16 Belligerentz wrote:On March 16 2011 07:08 lundell100 wrote:On March 16 2011 07:05 Belligerentz wrote:On March 16 2011 06:55 lundell100 wrote:On March 16 2011 06:35 sureshot_ wrote:
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Have you ever been in a situation such as this? If finding an adult and showing this material was that easy bullying wouldn't be nearly as bad of a problem in the first place. First off, he wasn't recording the video, the bully's friend was. Second, the psychological damage from being bullied is almost, if not worse, than the physical damage. It's like telling people in a state of depression to just... feel happier. It doesn't work like that. I've never been in such a severe case of bullying but in my past I have felt the tensions of situations similar to this. It makes you feel trapped in a sense and honestly you aren't processing how to get these kids in trouble with the least amount of damage possible. Finally what Casey did was self-defense. He took a blow to the face, waited, watched as a little kid continued to show signs of taking aggressive action, then snapped. Maybe he over did it out of anger, but the difference is he backed off once the kid was disabled, he didn't continue to attack. Sure, getting bullied is extreme torture not only mentally but physically aswell, but do you really think that this solved anything? I never said that it was EASY for Casey to tell the teachers, I said that it was the RIGHT thing to do. What solved your bully problems, did you also hulksmash your bully? when i was being constantly bullied emotionally i took it in stride but the anger that builds up starts eating away, eventually even the strongest most seemingly happy people can contemplate ending it, especialyl if ( like in my case) there have been other emotionally issues in their life. when it turned to violence i had had enough and smashed 2 of the bullys. it worked. I try to avoid violence at all costs, i'm a big guy and i could throw my weight around but i don't like to, if a fight can be avoided i'll avoid it, but i learnt from the bullying i went through when it gets to a certain point pacifism isn't going to solve anything. fact of the matter is, all schools anti-bullying system is flawed and in the worst cases these people kill themselves, i never got to that point but if i hadn't stood up for myself i don't know how much worse the bullying would have got. bullying snowballs, the more you take the more they'll give. telling a teacher is the right thing to do, if you want it to get worse, all that will happen is the bully will try to make it even less hard to prove it's happening and most likely be more malicious for the attempt to get him into trouble. I don't enjoy violence, but it does, at the end of the day, get things resolved. i'd say 90% of bullies would most likely not even go near anyone they thought would ever fight back. If you think about it this way: What if the bully got killed? What if he hit his head in the ground and got paralyzed for the rest of his life? Would he have deserved that? no, but he would have deserved any ridicule he recieved while paralysed. ok how abotu this, casey didnt fight back, he got hit again and again, then went home and slashed his wrists open with his dads razor and died. would he have deserved that? did he deserve being alienated? singled out for abuse? made to feel unsafe in a palce he is legally forced to go to for 7-9 hours a day? to be made the punching bag for any slimy creep who wants to beat on someone to make themself feel better abotu daddy and mummy not loving them? to have things said to him so often abotu himself that he starts to believe them? So what you're actually implying is this: If you want to not be bullied, you turn to physical violence and you hurt the person that's bullying you. This is NOT how the world works. The civilized way to solve this is to either turn to the parents, or to your teachers. Do you seriously think that this mindset works later in life? If you get bullied at your workplace when you're an adult, do you think that you can just go to that person and beat the shit out of him, and everything will turn out alright? No! clearly you don't know how bullying works. telling the parents or teachers will solve nothing. if it did then bullying wouldn't exist. please don't post ignorant comments. You're implying that turning to physical force is the right thing to do, and you're calling me ignorant. There's no point in arguing with you. It's funny that you didn't respond to my answer. Look if this was just verbal bullying, then your 100% correct. However, this is NOT the case. Casey needed to defend himself, and he RIGHTFULLY did. He did not attack the bully as he was trying to get back on his feet, instead he did the RIGHT thing and walked away. He didn't add salt to the wounds, but only did enough to defend himself. I agree with you, you have the right to defend yourself sometimes, in extreme cases, but in this case, I think the right thing to do would have been just to run away. Casey got lucky, this turned out to be good for him, but the way that he just picked up that kid and smashed him to the ground could've turned out soooooooo bad. Think about that.
Yea run away from a guy that is like 3 years younger than you and weighs prolly half of what you weigh...This little shit had it coming and deserved what he got. Personally I wouldve punted him in the face as well and then walker away.
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On March 16 2011 07:48 lundell100 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2011 07:43 cromat wrote:On March 16 2011 07:30 lundell100 wrote:On March 16 2011 07:26 cromat wrote:On March 16 2011 07:23 lundell100 wrote:On March 16 2011 07:16 Belligerentz wrote:On March 16 2011 07:08 lundell100 wrote:On March 16 2011 07:05 Belligerentz wrote:On March 16 2011 06:55 lundell100 wrote:On March 16 2011 06:35 sureshot_ wrote:
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Have you ever been in a situation such as this? If finding an adult and showing this material was that easy bullying wouldn't be nearly as bad of a problem in the first place. First off, he wasn't recording the video, the bully's friend was. Second, the psychological damage from being bullied is almost, if not worse, than the physical damage. It's like telling people in a state of depression to just... feel happier. It doesn't work like that. I've never been in such a severe case of bullying but in my past I have felt the tensions of situations similar to this. It makes you feel trapped in a sense and honestly you aren't processing how to get these kids in trouble with the least amount of damage possible. Finally what Casey did was self-defense. He took a blow to the face, waited, watched as a little kid continued to show signs of taking aggressive action, then snapped. Maybe he over did it out of anger, but the difference is he backed off once the kid was disabled, he didn't continue to attack. Sure, getting bullied is extreme torture not only mentally but physically aswell, but do you really think that this solved anything? I never said that it was EASY for Casey to tell the teachers, I said that it was the RIGHT thing to do. What solved your bully problems, did you also hulksmash your bully? when i was being constantly bullied emotionally i took it in stride but the anger that builds up starts eating away, eventually even the strongest most seemingly happy people can contemplate ending it, especialyl if ( like in my case) there have been other emotionally issues in their life. when it turned to violence i had had enough and smashed 2 of the bullys. it worked. I try to avoid violence at all costs, i'm a big guy and i could throw my weight around but i don't like to, if a fight can be avoided i'll avoid it, but i learnt from the bullying i went through when it gets to a certain point pacifism isn't going to solve anything. fact of the matter is, all schools anti-bullying system is flawed and in the worst cases these people kill themselves, i never got to that point but if i hadn't stood up for myself i don't know how much worse the bullying would have got. bullying snowballs, the more you take the more they'll give. telling a teacher is the right thing to do, if you want it to get worse, all that will happen is the bully will try to make it even less hard to prove it's happening and most likely be more malicious for the attempt to get him into trouble. I don't enjoy violence, but it does, at the end of the day, get things resolved. i'd say 90% of bullies would most likely not even go near anyone they thought would ever fight back. If you think about it this way: What if the bully got killed? What if he hit his head in the ground and got paralyzed for the rest of his life? Would he have deserved that? no, but he would have deserved any ridicule he recieved while paralysed. ok how abotu this, casey didnt fight back, he got hit again and again, then went home and slashed his wrists open with his dads razor and died. would he have deserved that? did he deserve being alienated? singled out for abuse? made to feel unsafe in a palce he is legally forced to go to for 7-9 hours a day? to be made the punching bag for any slimy creep who wants to beat on someone to make themself feel better abotu daddy and mummy not loving them? to have things said to him so often abotu himself that he starts to believe them? So what you're actually implying is this: If you want to not be bullied, you turn to physical violence and you hurt the person that's bullying you. This is NOT how the world works. The civilized way to solve this is to either turn to the parents, or to your teachers. Do you seriously think that this mindset works later in life? If you get bullied at your workplace when you're an adult, do you think that you can just go to that person and beat the shit out of him, and everything will turn out alright? No! clearly you don't know how bullying works. telling the parents or teachers will solve nothing. if it did then bullying wouldn't exist. please don't post ignorant comments. You're implying that turning to physical force is the right thing to do, and you're calling me ignorant. There's no point in arguing with you. theres no point arguing with YOU since you've obviously never been bullied or have done any research (which multiple people pointed out) showing that reporting to parents and teachers don't do anything. you can sit behind your computer screen white knighting all you want, but that doesn't change the fact that casey was cornered. why aren't you condemning the actions of the bully for that matter? its okay to punch someone in the face while having a friend filming it? Please tell me this: WHEN DID I SAY THAT IT WAS OKAY TO BULLY OTHER PEOPLE? You're fucking retarded. Just because I don't agree with you, you seem to think that I'm rooting for the bully. I DO know how it feels to be bullied, I was bullied when I was young, but I didn't have the 50 pounds him like Casey did, so I couldn't do shit about it. I got lucky, the person who bullied me actually grew up, and stopped bullying me by some miracle act. I didn't have to bodyslam him to get that message through. I can see how it seems fair out of the victims perspective, but you neglect the fact that the bully is also mentally damaged, and needs help.
how do you know that?
maybe he's jsut a POS.
you don't need the 50 punds on him, you jsut need the bollocks to show you wont put up with it.
your bullying was clearly mild then, otherwise you would not be arguing that the outlash was wrong.
hwo about this, your in a corner, being picked on, for the 700th consecutive day, while being filmed, you've been hit 5 times, they arent stopping, if you run you wont get away.
what re you gna do? hug him and hope he decides you're too nice to bully.
school doesnt work like that.
and casey could have easily, intentionally slammed him on his head.
he levelled him out for the slam.
he showed restraint that i would not have in that situation.
by saying that casey was in the wrong you are effectively defending the bully.
if you can't take the heat, stay outta the kitchen.
do unto others.
Dont' give what you can't take.
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On March 16 2011 07:48 lundell100 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2011 07:43 cromat wrote:On March 16 2011 07:30 lundell100 wrote:On March 16 2011 07:26 cromat wrote:On March 16 2011 07:23 lundell100 wrote:On March 16 2011 07:16 Belligerentz wrote:On March 16 2011 07:08 lundell100 wrote:On March 16 2011 07:05 Belligerentz wrote:On March 16 2011 06:55 lundell100 wrote:On March 16 2011 06:35 sureshot_ wrote:
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Have you ever been in a situation such as this? If finding an adult and showing this material was that easy bullying wouldn't be nearly as bad of a problem in the first place. First off, he wasn't recording the video, the bully's friend was. Second, the psychological damage from being bullied is almost, if not worse, than the physical damage. It's like telling people in a state of depression to just... feel happier. It doesn't work like that. I've never been in such a severe case of bullying but in my past I have felt the tensions of situations similar to this. It makes you feel trapped in a sense and honestly you aren't processing how to get these kids in trouble with the least amount of damage possible. Finally what Casey did was self-defense. He took a blow to the face, waited, watched as a little kid continued to show signs of taking aggressive action, then snapped. Maybe he over did it out of anger, but the difference is he backed off once the kid was disabled, he didn't continue to attack. Sure, getting bullied is extreme torture not only mentally but physically aswell, but do you really think that this solved anything? I never said that it was EASY for Casey to tell the teachers, I said that it was the RIGHT thing to do. What solved your bully problems, did you also hulksmash your bully? when i was being constantly bullied emotionally i took it in stride but the anger that builds up starts eating away, eventually even the strongest most seemingly happy people can contemplate ending it, especialyl if ( like in my case) there have been other emotionally issues in their life. when it turned to violence i had had enough and smashed 2 of the bullys. it worked. I try to avoid violence at all costs, i'm a big guy and i could throw my weight around but i don't like to, if a fight can be avoided i'll avoid it, but i learnt from the bullying i went through when it gets to a certain point pacifism isn't going to solve anything. fact of the matter is, all schools anti-bullying system is flawed and in the worst cases these people kill themselves, i never got to that point but if i hadn't stood up for myself i don't know how much worse the bullying would have got. bullying snowballs, the more you take the more they'll give. telling a teacher is the right thing to do, if you want it to get worse, all that will happen is the bully will try to make it even less hard to prove it's happening and most likely be more malicious for the attempt to get him into trouble. I don't enjoy violence, but it does, at the end of the day, get things resolved. i'd say 90% of bullies would most likely not even go near anyone they thought would ever fight back. If you think about it this way: What if the bully got killed? What if he hit his head in the ground and got paralyzed for the rest of his life? Would he have deserved that? no, but he would have deserved any ridicule he recieved while paralysed. ok how abotu this, casey didnt fight back, he got hit again and again, then went home and slashed his wrists open with his dads razor and died. would he have deserved that? did he deserve being alienated? singled out for abuse? made to feel unsafe in a palce he is legally forced to go to for 7-9 hours a day? to be made the punching bag for any slimy creep who wants to beat on someone to make themself feel better abotu daddy and mummy not loving them? to have things said to him so often abotu himself that he starts to believe them? So what you're actually implying is this: If you want to not be bullied, you turn to physical violence and you hurt the person that's bullying you. This is NOT how the world works. The civilized way to solve this is to either turn to the parents, or to your teachers. Do you seriously think that this mindset works later in life? If you get bullied at your workplace when you're an adult, do you think that you can just go to that person and beat the shit out of him, and everything will turn out alright? No! clearly you don't know how bullying works. telling the parents or teachers will solve nothing. if it did then bullying wouldn't exist. please don't post ignorant comments. You're implying that turning to physical force is the right thing to do, and you're calling me ignorant. There's no point in arguing with you. theres no point arguing with YOU since you've obviously never been bullied or have done any research (which multiple people pointed out) showing that reporting to parents and teachers don't do anything. you can sit behind your computer screen white knighting all you want, but that doesn't change the fact that casey was cornered. why aren't you condemning the actions of the bully for that matter? its okay to punch someone in the face while having a friend filming it? Please tell me this: WHEN DID I SAY THAT IT WAS OKAY TO BULLY OTHER PEOPLE? You're fucking retarded. Just because I don't agree with you, you seem to think that I'm rooting for the bully. I DO know how it feels to be bullied, I was bullied when I was young, but I didn't have the 50 pounds him like Casey did, so I couldn't do shit about it. I got lucky, the person who bullied me actually grew up, and stopped bullying me by some miracle act. I didn't have to bodyslam him to get that message through. I can see how it seems fair out of the victims perspective, but you neglect the fact that the bully is also mentally damaged, and needs help.
HES NOT A FUCKING ADULT.
He obviously won't make the best most rational adult decision in this situation. And while body slamming may be overboard and dangerous, fighting back was absolutely justified.
I got bullied as a kid too and didn't have size on my bully. When I snapped I lunged for his neck and squeezed the shit out of it.
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On March 16 2011 07:52 Bosu wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2011 07:48 lundell100 wrote:On March 16 2011 07:43 cromat wrote:On March 16 2011 07:30 lundell100 wrote:On March 16 2011 07:26 cromat wrote:On March 16 2011 07:23 lundell100 wrote:On March 16 2011 07:16 Belligerentz wrote:On March 16 2011 07:08 lundell100 wrote:On March 16 2011 07:05 Belligerentz wrote:On March 16 2011 06:55 lundell100 wrote:
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Sure, getting bullied is extreme torture not only mentally but physically aswell, but do you really think that this solved anything? I never said that it was EASY for Casey to tell the teachers, I said that it was the RIGHT thing to do. What solved your bully problems, did you also hulksmash your bully? when i was being constantly bullied emotionally i took it in stride but the anger that builds up starts eating away, eventually even the strongest most seemingly happy people can contemplate ending it, especialyl if ( like in my case) there have been other emotionally issues in their life. when it turned to violence i had had enough and smashed 2 of the bullys. it worked. I try to avoid violence at all costs, i'm a big guy and i could throw my weight around but i don't like to, if a fight can be avoided i'll avoid it, but i learnt from the bullying i went through when it gets to a certain point pacifism isn't going to solve anything. fact of the matter is, all schools anti-bullying system is flawed and in the worst cases these people kill themselves, i never got to that point but if i hadn't stood up for myself i don't know how much worse the bullying would have got. bullying snowballs, the more you take the more they'll give. telling a teacher is the right thing to do, if you want it to get worse, all that will happen is the bully will try to make it even less hard to prove it's happening and most likely be more malicious for the attempt to get him into trouble. I don't enjoy violence, but it does, at the end of the day, get things resolved. i'd say 90% of bullies would most likely not even go near anyone they thought would ever fight back. If you think about it this way: What if the bully got killed? What if he hit his head in the ground and got paralyzed for the rest of his life? Would he have deserved that? no, but he would have deserved any ridicule he recieved while paralysed. ok how abotu this, casey didnt fight back, he got hit again and again, then went home and slashed his wrists open with his dads razor and died. would he have deserved that? did he deserve being alienated? singled out for abuse? made to feel unsafe in a palce he is legally forced to go to for 7-9 hours a day? to be made the punching bag for any slimy creep who wants to beat on someone to make themself feel better abotu daddy and mummy not loving them? to have things said to him so often abotu himself that he starts to believe them? So what you're actually implying is this: If you want to not be bullied, you turn to physical violence and you hurt the person that's bullying you. This is NOT how the world works. The civilized way to solve this is to either turn to the parents, or to your teachers. Do you seriously think that this mindset works later in life? If you get bullied at your workplace when you're an adult, do you think that you can just go to that person and beat the shit out of him, and everything will turn out alright? No! clearly you don't know how bullying works. telling the parents or teachers will solve nothing. if it did then bullying wouldn't exist. please don't post ignorant comments. You're implying that turning to physical force is the right thing to do, and you're calling me ignorant. There's no point in arguing with you. theres no point arguing with YOU since you've obviously never been bullied or have done any research (which multiple people pointed out) showing that reporting to parents and teachers don't do anything. you can sit behind your computer screen white knighting all you want, but that doesn't change the fact that casey was cornered. why aren't you condemning the actions of the bully for that matter? its okay to punch someone in the face while having a friend filming it? Please tell me this: WHEN DID I SAY THAT IT WAS OKAY TO BULLY OTHER PEOPLE? You're fucking retarded. Just because I don't agree with you, you seem to think that I'm rooting for the bully. I DO know how it feels to be bullied, I was bullied when I was young, but I didn't have the 50 pounds him like Casey did, so I couldn't do shit about it. I got lucky, the person who bullied me actually grew up, and stopped bullying me by some miracle act. I didn't have to bodyslam him to get that message through. I can see how it seems fair out of the victims perspective, but you neglect the fact that the bully is also mentally damaged, and needs help. HES NOT A FUCKING ADULT. He obviously won't make the best most rational adult decision in this situation. And while body slamming may be overboard and dangerous, fighting back was absolutely justified. I got bullied as a kid too and didn't have size on my bully. When I snapped I lunged for his neck and squeezed the shit out of it.
YES. Standing up to your bully is good, using physical violence, and possibly killing him is NOT.
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On March 16 2011 07:56 lundell100 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2011 07:52 Bosu wrote:On March 16 2011 07:48 lundell100 wrote:On March 16 2011 07:43 cromat wrote:On March 16 2011 07:30 lundell100 wrote:On March 16 2011 07:26 cromat wrote:On March 16 2011 07:23 lundell100 wrote:On March 16 2011 07:16 Belligerentz wrote:On March 16 2011 07:08 lundell100 wrote:On March 16 2011 07:05 Belligerentz wrote:
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when i was being constantly bullied emotionally i took it in stride but the anger that builds up starts eating away, eventually even the strongest most seemingly happy people can contemplate ending it, especialyl if ( like in my case) there have been other emotionally issues in their life.
when it turned to violence i had had enough and smashed 2 of the bullys.
it worked.
I try to avoid violence at all costs, i'm a big guy and i could throw my weight around but i don't like to, if a fight can be avoided i'll avoid it, but i learnt from the bullying i went through when it gets to a certain point pacifism isn't going to solve anything.
fact of the matter is, all schools anti-bullying system is flawed and in the worst cases these people kill themselves, i never got to that point but if i hadn't stood up for myself i don't know how much worse the bullying would have got.
bullying snowballs, the more you take the more they'll give.
telling a teacher is the right thing to do, if you want it to get worse, all that will happen is the bully will try to make it even less hard to prove it's happening and most likely be more malicious for the attempt to get him into trouble.
I don't enjoy violence, but it does, at the end of the day, get things resolved.
i'd say 90% of bullies would most likely not even go near anyone they thought would ever fight back.
If you think about it this way: What if the bully got killed? What if he hit his head in the ground and got paralyzed for the rest of his life? Would he have deserved that? no, but he would have deserved any ridicule he recieved while paralysed. ok how abotu this, casey didnt fight back, he got hit again and again, then went home and slashed his wrists open with his dads razor and died. would he have deserved that? did he deserve being alienated? singled out for abuse? made to feel unsafe in a palce he is legally forced to go to for 7-9 hours a day? to be made the punching bag for any slimy creep who wants to beat on someone to make themself feel better abotu daddy and mummy not loving them? to have things said to him so often abotu himself that he starts to believe them? So what you're actually implying is this: If you want to not be bullied, you turn to physical violence and you hurt the person that's bullying you. This is NOT how the world works. The civilized way to solve this is to either turn to the parents, or to your teachers. Do you seriously think that this mindset works later in life? If you get bullied at your workplace when you're an adult, do you think that you can just go to that person and beat the shit out of him, and everything will turn out alright? No! clearly you don't know how bullying works. telling the parents or teachers will solve nothing. if it did then bullying wouldn't exist. please don't post ignorant comments. You're implying that turning to physical force is the right thing to do, and you're calling me ignorant. There's no point in arguing with you. theres no point arguing with YOU since you've obviously never been bullied or have done any research (which multiple people pointed out) showing that reporting to parents and teachers don't do anything. you can sit behind your computer screen white knighting all you want, but that doesn't change the fact that casey was cornered. why aren't you condemning the actions of the bully for that matter? its okay to punch someone in the face while having a friend filming it? Please tell me this: WHEN DID I SAY THAT IT WAS OKAY TO BULLY OTHER PEOPLE? You're fucking retarded. Just because I don't agree with you, you seem to think that I'm rooting for the bully. I DO know how it feels to be bullied, I was bullied when I was young, but I didn't have the 50 pounds him like Casey did, so I couldn't do shit about it. I got lucky, the person who bullied me actually grew up, and stopped bullying me by some miracle act. I didn't have to bodyslam him to get that message through. I can see how it seems fair out of the victims perspective, but you neglect the fact that the bully is also mentally damaged, and needs help. HES NOT A FUCKING ADULT. He obviously won't make the best most rational adult decision in this situation. And while body slamming may be overboard and dangerous, fighting back was absolutely justified. I got bullied as a kid too and didn't have size on my bully. When I snapped I lunged for his neck and squeezed the shit out of it. YES. Standing up to your bully is good, using physical violence, and possibly killing him is NOT.
Ya no shit. The bully is a stupid kid and obviously doesn't deserve death or permanent damage.
but as I said in all caps in the first line of my last post. Casey is not an adult. Hes a very young kid. These things don't cross the mind of an elementary school kid when he is being physically assaulted and reached his breaking point.
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On March 16 2011 07:56 lundell100 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2011 07:52 Bosu wrote:On March 16 2011 07:48 lundell100 wrote:On March 16 2011 07:43 cromat wrote:On March 16 2011 07:30 lundell100 wrote:On March 16 2011 07:26 cromat wrote:On March 16 2011 07:23 lundell100 wrote:On March 16 2011 07:16 Belligerentz wrote:On March 16 2011 07:08 lundell100 wrote:On March 16 2011 07:05 Belligerentz wrote:
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when i was being constantly bullied emotionally i took it in stride but the anger that builds up starts eating away, eventually even the strongest most seemingly happy people can contemplate ending it, especialyl if ( like in my case) there have been other emotionally issues in their life.
when it turned to violence i had had enough and smashed 2 of the bullys.
it worked.
I try to avoid violence at all costs, i'm a big guy and i could throw my weight around but i don't like to, if a fight can be avoided i'll avoid it, but i learnt from the bullying i went through when it gets to a certain point pacifism isn't going to solve anything.
fact of the matter is, all schools anti-bullying system is flawed and in the worst cases these people kill themselves, i never got to that point but if i hadn't stood up for myself i don't know how much worse the bullying would have got.
bullying snowballs, the more you take the more they'll give.
telling a teacher is the right thing to do, if you want it to get worse, all that will happen is the bully will try to make it even less hard to prove it's happening and most likely be more malicious for the attempt to get him into trouble.
I don't enjoy violence, but it does, at the end of the day, get things resolved.
i'd say 90% of bullies would most likely not even go near anyone they thought would ever fight back.
If you think about it this way: What if the bully got killed? What if he hit his head in the ground and got paralyzed for the rest of his life? Would he have deserved that? no, but he would have deserved any ridicule he recieved while paralysed. ok how abotu this, casey didnt fight back, he got hit again and again, then went home and slashed his wrists open with his dads razor and died. would he have deserved that? did he deserve being alienated? singled out for abuse? made to feel unsafe in a palce he is legally forced to go to for 7-9 hours a day? to be made the punching bag for any slimy creep who wants to beat on someone to make themself feel better abotu daddy and mummy not loving them? to have things said to him so often abotu himself that he starts to believe them? So what you're actually implying is this: If you want to not be bullied, you turn to physical violence and you hurt the person that's bullying you. This is NOT how the world works. The civilized way to solve this is to either turn to the parents, or to your teachers. Do you seriously think that this mindset works later in life? If you get bullied at your workplace when you're an adult, do you think that you can just go to that person and beat the shit out of him, and everything will turn out alright? No! clearly you don't know how bullying works. telling the parents or teachers will solve nothing. if it did then bullying wouldn't exist. please don't post ignorant comments. You're implying that turning to physical force is the right thing to do, and you're calling me ignorant. There's no point in arguing with you. theres no point arguing with YOU since you've obviously never been bullied or have done any research (which multiple people pointed out) showing that reporting to parents and teachers don't do anything. you can sit behind your computer screen white knighting all you want, but that doesn't change the fact that casey was cornered. why aren't you condemning the actions of the bully for that matter? its okay to punch someone in the face while having a friend filming it? Please tell me this: WHEN DID I SAY THAT IT WAS OKAY TO BULLY OTHER PEOPLE? You're fucking retarded. Just because I don't agree with you, you seem to think that I'm rooting for the bully. I DO know how it feels to be bullied, I was bullied when I was young, but I didn't have the 50 pounds him like Casey did, so I couldn't do shit about it. I got lucky, the person who bullied me actually grew up, and stopped bullying me by some miracle act. I didn't have to bodyslam him to get that message through. I can see how it seems fair out of the victims perspective, but you neglect the fact that the bully is also mentally damaged, and needs help. HES NOT A FUCKING ADULT. He obviously won't make the best most rational adult decision in this situation. And while body slamming may be overboard and dangerous, fighting back was absolutely justified. I got bullied as a kid too and didn't have size on my bully. When I snapped I lunged for his neck and squeezed the shit out of it. YES. Standing up to your bully is good, using physical violence, and possibly killing him is NOT.
ok so explain to me hwo you would stand up to your bulyl withotu violence while he is too busy hitting you to listen to anythign you have to say.
your arguments are flawed, baseless, and down right fucking retarded.
im broed of this and going to bed.
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I've had enough of this. To sum up: I hope everything turned out good for Casey, and that the bully hopefully learned his lesson.
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YES. Standing up to your bully is good, using physical violence, and possibly killing him is NOT.
So what would a pansy like you do if you walked in your house and someone was assaulting your family.
A man, (real man) would stop it right there, they don't need any permission from anyone to defend themselves.
People like you are the reason that OJ simpson got away with brutally murdering his wife.
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On March 16 2011 07:58 Bosu wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2011 07:56 lundell100 wrote:On March 16 2011 07:52 Bosu wrote:On March 16 2011 07:48 lundell100 wrote:On March 16 2011 07:43 cromat wrote:On March 16 2011 07:30 lundell100 wrote:On March 16 2011 07:26 cromat wrote:On March 16 2011 07:23 lundell100 wrote:On March 16 2011 07:16 Belligerentz wrote:On March 16 2011 07:08 lundell100 wrote:
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If you think about it this way:
What if the bully got killed? What if he hit his head in the ground and got paralyzed for the rest of his life? Would he have deserved that? no, but he would have deserved any ridicule he recieved while paralysed. ok how abotu this, casey didnt fight back, he got hit again and again, then went home and slashed his wrists open with his dads razor and died. would he have deserved that? did he deserve being alienated? singled out for abuse? made to feel unsafe in a palce he is legally forced to go to for 7-9 hours a day? to be made the punching bag for any slimy creep who wants to beat on someone to make themself feel better abotu daddy and mummy not loving them? to have things said to him so often abotu himself that he starts to believe them? So what you're actually implying is this: If you want to not be bullied, you turn to physical violence and you hurt the person that's bullying you. This is NOT how the world works. The civilized way to solve this is to either turn to the parents, or to your teachers. Do you seriously think that this mindset works later in life? If you get bullied at your workplace when you're an adult, do you think that you can just go to that person and beat the shit out of him, and everything will turn out alright? No! clearly you don't know how bullying works. telling the parents or teachers will solve nothing. if it did then bullying wouldn't exist. please don't post ignorant comments. You're implying that turning to physical force is the right thing to do, and you're calling me ignorant. There's no point in arguing with you. theres no point arguing with YOU since you've obviously never been bullied or have done any research (which multiple people pointed out) showing that reporting to parents and teachers don't do anything. you can sit behind your computer screen white knighting all you want, but that doesn't change the fact that casey was cornered. why aren't you condemning the actions of the bully for that matter? its okay to punch someone in the face while having a friend filming it? Please tell me this: WHEN DID I SAY THAT IT WAS OKAY TO BULLY OTHER PEOPLE? You're fucking retarded. Just because I don't agree with you, you seem to think that I'm rooting for the bully. I DO know how it feels to be bullied, I was bullied when I was young, but I didn't have the 50 pounds him like Casey did, so I couldn't do shit about it. I got lucky, the person who bullied me actually grew up, and stopped bullying me by some miracle act. I didn't have to bodyslam him to get that message through. I can see how it seems fair out of the victims perspective, but you neglect the fact that the bully is also mentally damaged, and needs help. HES NOT A FUCKING ADULT. He obviously won't make the best most rational adult decision in this situation. And while body slamming may be overboard and dangerous, fighting back was absolutely justified. I got bullied as a kid too and didn't have size on my bully. When I snapped I lunged for his neck and squeezed the shit out of it. YES. Standing up to your bully is good, using physical violence, and possibly killing him is NOT. Ya no shit. The bully is a stupid kid and obviously doesn't deserve death or permanent damage. but as I said in all caps in the first line of my last post. Casey is not an adult. Hes a kid. These things don't cross the mind of an elementary school kid when he is being physically assaulted and reached his breaking point.
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This +100
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He's a troll: ignoring relevant comments, then proceeding to regurgitate nonsensical crap. I recommend just ignoring his posts.
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On March 16 2011 07:59 Lomak wrote:Show nested quote +YES. Standing up to your bully is good, using physical violence, and possibly killing him is NOT. So what would a pansy like you do if you walked in your house and someone was assaulting your family. A man, (real man) would stop it right there, they don't need any permission from anyone to defend themselves. People like you are the reason that OJ simpson got away with brutally murdering his wife.
These things are not comparable. Casey was never in any life-threatening danger.
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On March 16 2011 08:00 ryseungoo wrote:
He's a troll: ignoring relevant comments, then proceeding to regurgitate nonsensical crap. I recommend just ignoring his posts.
No no no!!! He's not a troll, just a politically correct idiot. -__-
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On March 16 2011 07:48 lundell100 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2011 07:43 cromat wrote:On March 16 2011 07:30 lundell100 wrote:On March 16 2011 07:26 cromat wrote:On March 16 2011 07:23 lundell100 wrote:On March 16 2011 07:16 Belligerentz wrote:On March 16 2011 07:08 lundell100 wrote:On March 16 2011 07:05 Belligerentz wrote:On March 16 2011 06:55 lundell100 wrote:On March 16 2011 06:35 sureshot_ wrote:
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Have you ever been in a situation such as this? If finding an adult and showing this material was that easy bullying wouldn't be nearly as bad of a problem in the first place. First off, he wasn't recording the video, the bully's friend was. Second, the psychological damage from being bullied is almost, if not worse, than the physical damage. It's like telling people in a state of depression to just... feel happier. It doesn't work like that. I've never been in such a severe case of bullying but in my past I have felt the tensions of situations similar to this. It makes you feel trapped in a sense and honestly you aren't processing how to get these kids in trouble with the least amount of damage possible. Finally what Casey did was self-defense. He took a blow to the face, waited, watched as a little kid continued to show signs of taking aggressive action, then snapped. Maybe he over did it out of anger, but the difference is he backed off once the kid was disabled, he didn't continue to attack. Sure, getting bullied is extreme torture not only mentally but physically aswell, but do you really think that this solved anything? I never said that it was EASY for Casey to tell the teachers, I said that it was the RIGHT thing to do. What solved your bully problems, did you also hulksmash your bully? when i was being constantly bullied emotionally i took it in stride but the anger that builds up starts eating away, eventually even the strongest most seemingly happy people can contemplate ending it, especialyl if ( like in my case) there have been other emotionally issues in their life. when it turned to violence i had had enough and smashed 2 of the bullys. it worked. I try to avoid violence at all costs, i'm a big guy and i could throw my weight around but i don't like to, if a fight can be avoided i'll avoid it, but i learnt from the bullying i went through when it gets to a certain point pacifism isn't going to solve anything. fact of the matter is, all schools anti-bullying system is flawed and in the worst cases these people kill themselves, i never got to that point but if i hadn't stood up for myself i don't know how much worse the bullying would have got. bullying snowballs, the more you take the more they'll give. telling a teacher is the right thing to do, if you want it to get worse, all that will happen is the bully will try to make it even less hard to prove it's happening and most likely be more malicious for the attempt to get him into trouble. I don't enjoy violence, but it does, at the end of the day, get things resolved. i'd say 90% of bullies would most likely not even go near anyone they thought would ever fight back. If you think about it this way: What if the bully got killed? What if he hit his head in the ground and got paralyzed for the rest of his life? Would he have deserved that? no, but he would have deserved any ridicule he recieved while paralysed. ok how abotu this, casey didnt fight back, he got hit again and again, then went home and slashed his wrists open with his dads razor and died. would he have deserved that? did he deserve being alienated? singled out for abuse? made to feel unsafe in a palce he is legally forced to go to for 7-9 hours a day? to be made the punching bag for any slimy creep who wants to beat on someone to make themself feel better abotu daddy and mummy not loving them? to have things said to him so often abotu himself that he starts to believe them? So what you're actually implying is this: If you want to not be bullied, you turn to physical violence and you hurt the person that's bullying you. This is NOT how the world works. The civilized way to solve this is to either turn to the parents, or to your teachers. Do you seriously think that this mindset works later in life? If you get bullied at your workplace when you're an adult, do you think that you can just go to that person and beat the shit out of him, and everything will turn out alright? No! clearly you don't know how bullying works. telling the parents or teachers will solve nothing. if it did then bullying wouldn't exist. please don't post ignorant comments. You're implying that turning to physical force is the right thing to do, and you're calling me ignorant. There's no point in arguing with you. theres no point arguing with YOU since you've obviously never been bullied or have done any research (which multiple people pointed out) showing that reporting to parents and teachers don't do anything. you can sit behind your computer screen white knighting all you want, but that doesn't change the fact that casey was cornered. why aren't you condemning the actions of the bully for that matter? its okay to punch someone in the face while having a friend filming it? Please tell me this: WHEN DID I SAY THAT IT WAS OKAY TO BULLY OTHER PEOPLE? You're fucking retarded. Just because I don't agree with you, you seem to think that I'm rooting for the bully. I DO know how it feels to be bullied, I was bullied when I was young, but I didn't have the 50 pounds him like Casey did, so I couldn't do shit about it. I got lucky, the person who bullied me actually grew up, and stopped bullying me by some miracle act. I didn't have to bodyslam him to get that message through. I can see how it seems fair out of the victims perspective, but you neglect the fact that the bully is also mentally damaged, and needs help.
how do you know the bully is also mentally damaged? nice assumption.
"im mentally damaged. that makes it okay for me to hurt other people"
seems like you hate casey for having balls to do what you couldn't when you were young. you are probably proof of why people need to actively stop bullying--look how you turned out! somehow you're rationalizing the bully's actions, and not casey's.
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On March 16 2011 08:03 cromat wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2011 07:48 lundell100 wrote:On March 16 2011 07:43 cromat wrote:On March 16 2011 07:30 lundell100 wrote:On March 16 2011 07:26 cromat wrote:On March 16 2011 07:23 lundell100 wrote:On March 16 2011 07:16 Belligerentz wrote:On March 16 2011 07:08 lundell100 wrote:On March 16 2011 07:05 Belligerentz wrote:On March 16 2011 06:55 lundell100 wrote:
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Sure, getting bullied is extreme torture not only mentally but physically aswell, but do you really think that this solved anything? I never said that it was EASY for Casey to tell the teachers, I said that it was the RIGHT thing to do. What solved your bully problems, did you also hulksmash your bully? when i was being constantly bullied emotionally i took it in stride but the anger that builds up starts eating away, eventually even the strongest most seemingly happy people can contemplate ending it, especialyl if ( like in my case) there have been other emotionally issues in their life. when it turned to violence i had had enough and smashed 2 of the bullys. it worked. I try to avoid violence at all costs, i'm a big guy and i could throw my weight around but i don't like to, if a fight can be avoided i'll avoid it, but i learnt from the bullying i went through when it gets to a certain point pacifism isn't going to solve anything. fact of the matter is, all schools anti-bullying system is flawed and in the worst cases these people kill themselves, i never got to that point but if i hadn't stood up for myself i don't know how much worse the bullying would have got. bullying snowballs, the more you take the more they'll give. telling a teacher is the right thing to do, if you want it to get worse, all that will happen is the bully will try to make it even less hard to prove it's happening and most likely be more malicious for the attempt to get him into trouble. I don't enjoy violence, but it does, at the end of the day, get things resolved. i'd say 90% of bullies would most likely not even go near anyone they thought would ever fight back. If you think about it this way: What if the bully got killed? What if he hit his head in the ground and got paralyzed for the rest of his life? Would he have deserved that? no, but he would have deserved any ridicule he recieved while paralysed. ok how abotu this, casey didnt fight back, he got hit again and again, then went home and slashed his wrists open with his dads razor and died. would he have deserved that? did he deserve being alienated? singled out for abuse? made to feel unsafe in a palce he is legally forced to go to for 7-9 hours a day? to be made the punching bag for any slimy creep who wants to beat on someone to make themself feel better abotu daddy and mummy not loving them? to have things said to him so often abotu himself that he starts to believe them? So what you're actually implying is this: If you want to not be bullied, you turn to physical violence and you hurt the person that's bullying you. This is NOT how the world works. The civilized way to solve this is to either turn to the parents, or to your teachers. Do you seriously think that this mindset works later in life? If you get bullied at your workplace when you're an adult, do you think that you can just go to that person and beat the shit out of him, and everything will turn out alright? No! clearly you don't know how bullying works. telling the parents or teachers will solve nothing. if it did then bullying wouldn't exist. please don't post ignorant comments. You're implying that turning to physical force is the right thing to do, and you're calling me ignorant. There's no point in arguing with you. theres no point arguing with YOU since you've obviously never been bullied or have done any research (which multiple people pointed out) showing that reporting to parents and teachers don't do anything. you can sit behind your computer screen white knighting all you want, but that doesn't change the fact that casey was cornered. why aren't you condemning the actions of the bully for that matter? its okay to punch someone in the face while having a friend filming it? Please tell me this: WHEN DID I SAY THAT IT WAS OKAY TO BULLY OTHER PEOPLE? You're fucking retarded. Just because I don't agree with you, you seem to think that I'm rooting for the bully. I DO know how it feels to be bullied, I was bullied when I was young, but I didn't have the 50 pounds him like Casey did, so I couldn't do shit about it. I got lucky, the person who bullied me actually grew up, and stopped bullying me by some miracle act. I didn't have to bodyslam him to get that message through. I can see how it seems fair out of the victims perspective, but you neglect the fact that the bully is also mentally damaged, and needs help. how do you know the bully is also mentally damaged? nice assumption. "im mentally damaged. that makes it okay for me to hurt other people" seems like you hate casey for having balls to do what you couldn't when you were young. you are probably proof of why people need to actively stop bullying--look how you turned out! somehow you're rationalizing the bully's actions, and not casey's.
Sigh. You obviously didn't read what I said. I'm glad that everything(hopefully) turned out good for Casey, It was good of him to stand up to the bully sure, but he took it too far. That little kid could've been killed.
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Can we settle down a little? We're at the point of petty personal insults, which only fuels itself. I don't mind arguments, in fact I love starting them, but at least keep them civil and concise. Don't make blind assumptions behind what people are actually typing (You were bullied as a child, you don't understand what it's like, your a politically correct retard, you're a bully, etc.), just refute the point and move on.
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He has not once said it's ok for Rat Boy to bully him. All he has said was it's not ok to deal with it the way Casey did.
On March 16 2011 08:05 ManyCookies wrote:
Can we settle down a little? We're at the point of petty personal insults, which only fuels itself further. I don't mind arguments, in fact I love starting them, but at least keep them civil and concise.
And this.
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