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On March 16 2011 08:05 lundell100 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2011 08:03 cromat wrote:On March 16 2011 07:48 lundell100 wrote:On March 16 2011 07:43 cromat wrote:On March 16 2011 07:30 lundell100 wrote:On March 16 2011 07:26 cromat wrote:On March 16 2011 07:23 lundell100 wrote:On March 16 2011 07:16 Belligerentz wrote:On March 16 2011 07:08 lundell100 wrote:On March 16 2011 07:05 Belligerentz wrote:
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when i was being constantly bullied emotionally i took it in stride but the anger that builds up starts eating away, eventually even the strongest most seemingly happy people can contemplate ending it, especialyl if ( like in my case) there have been other emotionally issues in their life.
when it turned to violence i had had enough and smashed 2 of the bullys.
it worked.
I try to avoid violence at all costs, i'm a big guy and i could throw my weight around but i don't like to, if a fight can be avoided i'll avoid it, but i learnt from the bullying i went through when it gets to a certain point pacifism isn't going to solve anything.
fact of the matter is, all schools anti-bullying system is flawed and in the worst cases these people kill themselves, i never got to that point but if i hadn't stood up for myself i don't know how much worse the bullying would have got.
bullying snowballs, the more you take the more they'll give.
telling a teacher is the right thing to do, if you want it to get worse, all that will happen is the bully will try to make it even less hard to prove it's happening and most likely be more malicious for the attempt to get him into trouble.
I don't enjoy violence, but it does, at the end of the day, get things resolved.
i'd say 90% of bullies would most likely not even go near anyone they thought would ever fight back.
If you think about it this way: What if the bully got killed? What if he hit his head in the ground and got paralyzed for the rest of his life? Would he have deserved that? no, but he would have deserved any ridicule he recieved while paralysed. ok how abotu this, casey didnt fight back, he got hit again and again, then went home and slashed his wrists open with his dads razor and died. would he have deserved that? did he deserve being alienated? singled out for abuse? made to feel unsafe in a palce he is legally forced to go to for 7-9 hours a day? to be made the punching bag for any slimy creep who wants to beat on someone to make themself feel better abotu daddy and mummy not loving them? to have things said to him so often abotu himself that he starts to believe them? So what you're actually implying is this: If you want to not be bullied, you turn to physical violence and you hurt the person that's bullying you. This is NOT how the world works. The civilized way to solve this is to either turn to the parents, or to your teachers. Do you seriously think that this mindset works later in life? If you get bullied at your workplace when you're an adult, do you think that you can just go to that person and beat the shit out of him, and everything will turn out alright? No! clearly you don't know how bullying works. telling the parents or teachers will solve nothing. if it did then bullying wouldn't exist. please don't post ignorant comments. You're implying that turning to physical force is the right thing to do, and you're calling me ignorant. There's no point in arguing with you. theres no point arguing with YOU since you've obviously never been bullied or have done any research (which multiple people pointed out) showing that reporting to parents and teachers don't do anything. you can sit behind your computer screen white knighting all you want, but that doesn't change the fact that casey was cornered. why aren't you condemning the actions of the bully for that matter? its okay to punch someone in the face while having a friend filming it? Please tell me this: WHEN DID I SAY THAT IT WAS OKAY TO BULLY OTHER PEOPLE? You're fucking retarded. Just because I don't agree with you, you seem to think that I'm rooting for the bully. I DO know how it feels to be bullied, I was bullied when I was young, but I didn't have the 50 pounds him like Casey did, so I couldn't do shit about it. I got lucky, the person who bullied me actually grew up, and stopped bullying me by some miracle act. I didn't have to bodyslam him to get that message through. I can see how it seems fair out of the victims perspective, but you neglect the fact that the bully is also mentally damaged, and needs help. how do you know the bully is also mentally damaged? nice assumption. "im mentally damaged. that makes it okay for me to hurt other people" seems like you hate casey for having balls to do what you couldn't when you were young. you are probably proof of why people need to actively stop bullying--look how you turned out! somehow you're rationalizing the bully's actions, and not casey's. Sigh. You obviously didn't read what I said. I'm glad that everything(hopefully) turned out good for Casey, It was good of him to stand up to the bully sure, but he took it too far. That little kid could've been killed.
You still don't get it... That kid was never killed ok? Did he? Because I don't remember that happening. Oh yeah!!! It didn't happen so you don't have to worry about that POS getting killed anymore right?
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On March 16 2011 08:08 shwaffles wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2011 08:05 lundell100 wrote:On March 16 2011 08:03 cromat wrote:On March 16 2011 07:48 lundell100 wrote:On March 16 2011 07:43 cromat wrote:On March 16 2011 07:30 lundell100 wrote:On March 16 2011 07:26 cromat wrote:On March 16 2011 07:23 lundell100 wrote:On March 16 2011 07:16 Belligerentz wrote:On March 16 2011 07:08 lundell100 wrote:
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If you think about it this way:
What if the bully got killed? What if he hit his head in the ground and got paralyzed for the rest of his life? Would he have deserved that? no, but he would have deserved any ridicule he recieved while paralysed. ok how abotu this, casey didnt fight back, he got hit again and again, then went home and slashed his wrists open with his dads razor and died. would he have deserved that? did he deserve being alienated? singled out for abuse? made to feel unsafe in a palce he is legally forced to go to for 7-9 hours a day? to be made the punching bag for any slimy creep who wants to beat on someone to make themself feel better abotu daddy and mummy not loving them? to have things said to him so often abotu himself that he starts to believe them? So what you're actually implying is this: If you want to not be bullied, you turn to physical violence and you hurt the person that's bullying you. This is NOT how the world works. The civilized way to solve this is to either turn to the parents, or to your teachers. Do you seriously think that this mindset works later in life? If you get bullied at your workplace when you're an adult, do you think that you can just go to that person and beat the shit out of him, and everything will turn out alright? No! clearly you don't know how bullying works. telling the parents or teachers will solve nothing. if it did then bullying wouldn't exist. please don't post ignorant comments. You're implying that turning to physical force is the right thing to do, and you're calling me ignorant. There's no point in arguing with you. theres no point arguing with YOU since you've obviously never been bullied or have done any research (which multiple people pointed out) showing that reporting to parents and teachers don't do anything. you can sit behind your computer screen white knighting all you want, but that doesn't change the fact that casey was cornered. why aren't you condemning the actions of the bully for that matter? its okay to punch someone in the face while having a friend filming it? Please tell me this: WHEN DID I SAY THAT IT WAS OKAY TO BULLY OTHER PEOPLE? You're fucking retarded. Just because I don't agree with you, you seem to think that I'm rooting for the bully. I DO know how it feels to be bullied, I was bullied when I was young, but I didn't have the 50 pounds him like Casey did, so I couldn't do shit about it. I got lucky, the person who bullied me actually grew up, and stopped bullying me by some miracle act. I didn't have to bodyslam him to get that message through. I can see how it seems fair out of the victims perspective, but you neglect the fact that the bully is also mentally damaged, and needs help. how do you know the bully is also mentally damaged? nice assumption. "im mentally damaged. that makes it okay for me to hurt other people" seems like you hate casey for having balls to do what you couldn't when you were young. you are probably proof of why people need to actively stop bullying--look how you turned out! somehow you're rationalizing the bully's actions, and not casey's. Sigh. You obviously didn't read what I said. I'm glad that everything(hopefully) turned out good for Casey, It was good of him to stand up to the bully sure, but he took it too far. That little kid could've been killed. You still don't get it... That kid was never killed ok? Did he? Because I don't remember that happening. Oh yeah!!! It didn't happen so you don't have to worry about that POS getting killed anymore right?
So? What has that have got to do with anything? Casey got LUCKY, this doesn't justify bodyslamming people! Like I stated previously, I agree with standing up to bullies, and I'm happy that everything turned out good for Casey, but you should never physically harm another person!
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On March 16 2011 08:11 lundell100 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2011 08:08 shwaffles wrote:On March 16 2011 08:05 lundell100 wrote:On March 16 2011 08:03 cromat wrote:On March 16 2011 07:48 lundell100 wrote:On March 16 2011 07:43 cromat wrote:On March 16 2011 07:30 lundell100 wrote:On March 16 2011 07:26 cromat wrote:On March 16 2011 07:23 lundell100 wrote:On March 16 2011 07:16 Belligerentz wrote:
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no, but he would have deserved any ridicule he recieved while paralysed.
ok how abotu this, casey didnt fight back, he got hit again and again, then went home and slashed his wrists open with his dads razor and died.
would he have deserved that?
did he deserve being alienated?
singled out for abuse?
made to feel unsafe in a palce he is legally forced to go to for 7-9 hours a day?
to be made the punching bag for any slimy creep who wants to beat on someone to make themself feel better abotu daddy and mummy not loving them?
to have things said to him so often abotu himself that he starts to believe them?
So what you're actually implying is this: If you want to not be bullied, you turn to physical violence and you hurt the person that's bullying you. This is NOT how the world works. The civilized way to solve this is to either turn to the parents, or to your teachers. Do you seriously think that this mindset works later in life? If you get bullied at your workplace when you're an adult, do you think that you can just go to that person and beat the shit out of him, and everything will turn out alright? No! clearly you don't know how bullying works. telling the parents or teachers will solve nothing. if it did then bullying wouldn't exist. please don't post ignorant comments. You're implying that turning to physical force is the right thing to do, and you're calling me ignorant. There's no point in arguing with you. theres no point arguing with YOU since you've obviously never been bullied or have done any research (which multiple people pointed out) showing that reporting to parents and teachers don't do anything. you can sit behind your computer screen white knighting all you want, but that doesn't change the fact that casey was cornered. why aren't you condemning the actions of the bully for that matter? its okay to punch someone in the face while having a friend filming it? Please tell me this: WHEN DID I SAY THAT IT WAS OKAY TO BULLY OTHER PEOPLE? You're fucking retarded. Just because I don't agree with you, you seem to think that I'm rooting for the bully. I DO know how it feels to be bullied, I was bullied when I was young, but I didn't have the 50 pounds him like Casey did, so I couldn't do shit about it. I got lucky, the person who bullied me actually grew up, and stopped bullying me by some miracle act. I didn't have to bodyslam him to get that message through. I can see how it seems fair out of the victims perspective, but you neglect the fact that the bully is also mentally damaged, and needs help. how do you know the bully is also mentally damaged? nice assumption. "im mentally damaged. that makes it okay for me to hurt other people" seems like you hate casey for having balls to do what you couldn't when you were young. you are probably proof of why people need to actively stop bullying--look how you turned out! somehow you're rationalizing the bully's actions, and not casey's. Sigh. You obviously didn't read what I said. I'm glad that everything(hopefully) turned out good for Casey, It was good of him to stand up to the bully sure, but he took it too far. That little kid could've been killed. You still don't get it... That kid was never killed ok? Did he? Because I don't remember that happening. Oh yeah!!! It didn't happen so you don't have to worry about that POS getting killed anymore right? So? What has that have got to do with anything? Casey got LUCKY, this doesn't justify bodyslamming people! Like I stated previously, I agree with standing up to bullies, but you should never physically harm another person!
So you should never defend yourself if somebody is physically harming you? Damn, that makes complete sense!
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These things are not comparable. Casey was never in any life-threatening danger.
He is just a kid, whose personal safety is at risk. How do you know his life was in no danger?
How do you know HE knew his life was in no danger?
People will take the steps needed to protect themselves when they are put in those situations. Anyone here defending that little fucker who assaulted casey is just out of touch with reality on level that just baffles me. I wish you the best of luck when the time comes that you have to step up and take action into your own hands, because god knows, your spineless ass needs it.
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On March 16 2011 08:11 lundell100 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2011 08:08 shwaffles wrote:On March 16 2011 08:05 lundell100 wrote:On March 16 2011 08:03 cromat wrote:On March 16 2011 07:48 lundell100 wrote:On March 16 2011 07:43 cromat wrote:On March 16 2011 07:30 lundell100 wrote:On March 16 2011 07:26 cromat wrote:On March 16 2011 07:23 lundell100 wrote:On March 16 2011 07:16 Belligerentz wrote:
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no, but he would have deserved any ridicule he recieved while paralysed.
ok how abotu this, casey didnt fight back, he got hit again and again, then went home and slashed his wrists open with his dads razor and died.
would he have deserved that?
did he deserve being alienated?
singled out for abuse?
made to feel unsafe in a palce he is legally forced to go to for 7-9 hours a day?
to be made the punching bag for any slimy creep who wants to beat on someone to make themself feel better abotu daddy and mummy not loving them?
to have things said to him so often abotu himself that he starts to believe them?
So what you're actually implying is this: If you want to not be bullied, you turn to physical violence and you hurt the person that's bullying you. This is NOT how the world works. The civilized way to solve this is to either turn to the parents, or to your teachers. Do you seriously think that this mindset works later in life? If you get bullied at your workplace when you're an adult, do you think that you can just go to that person and beat the shit out of him, and everything will turn out alright? No! clearly you don't know how bullying works. telling the parents or teachers will solve nothing. if it did then bullying wouldn't exist. please don't post ignorant comments. You're implying that turning to physical force is the right thing to do, and you're calling me ignorant. There's no point in arguing with you. theres no point arguing with YOU since you've obviously never been bullied or have done any research (which multiple people pointed out) showing that reporting to parents and teachers don't do anything. you can sit behind your computer screen white knighting all you want, but that doesn't change the fact that casey was cornered. why aren't you condemning the actions of the bully for that matter? its okay to punch someone in the face while having a friend filming it? Please tell me this: WHEN DID I SAY THAT IT WAS OKAY TO BULLY OTHER PEOPLE? You're fucking retarded. Just because I don't agree with you, you seem to think that I'm rooting for the bully. I DO know how it feels to be bullied, I was bullied when I was young, but I didn't have the 50 pounds him like Casey did, so I couldn't do shit about it. I got lucky, the person who bullied me actually grew up, and stopped bullying me by some miracle act. I didn't have to bodyslam him to get that message through. I can see how it seems fair out of the victims perspective, but you neglect the fact that the bully is also mentally damaged, and needs help. how do you know the bully is also mentally damaged? nice assumption. "im mentally damaged. that makes it okay for me to hurt other people" seems like you hate casey for having balls to do what you couldn't when you were young. you are probably proof of why people need to actively stop bullying--look how you turned out! somehow you're rationalizing the bully's actions, and not casey's. Sigh. You obviously didn't read what I said. I'm glad that everything(hopefully) turned out good for Casey, It was good of him to stand up to the bully sure, but he took it too far. That little kid could've been killed. You still don't get it... That kid was never killed ok? Did he? Because I don't remember that happening. Oh yeah!!! It didn't happen so you don't have to worry about that POS getting killed anymore right? So? What has that have got to do with anything? Casey got LUCKY, this doesn't justify bodyslamming people! Like I stated previously, I agree with standing up to bullies, and I'm happy that everything turned out good for Casey, but you should never physically harm another person!
yes you should. some lessons are learnt best physically. maybe in your sissy mind this wont work out but in the real world it does.
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You still don't get it... That kid was never killed ok? Did he? Because I don't remember that happening. Oh yeah!!! It didn't happen so you don't have to worry about that POS getting killed anymore right?
It was a very real possibility regardless. However, I highly doubt Casey was fully aware of the implications of the body-slam. While, in hindsight, the move might have been too dangerous/potentially damaging, Casey was clearly not actually trying to take it "too far". He just wanted his bully to back (heh) off.
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On March 16 2011 08:12 shwaffles wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2011 08:11 lundell100 wrote:On March 16 2011 08:08 shwaffles wrote:On March 16 2011 08:05 lundell100 wrote:On March 16 2011 08:03 cromat wrote:On March 16 2011 07:48 lundell100 wrote:On March 16 2011 07:43 cromat wrote:On March 16 2011 07:30 lundell100 wrote:On March 16 2011 07:26 cromat wrote:On March 16 2011 07:23 lundell100 wrote:
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So what you're actually implying is this: If you want to not be bullied, you turn to physical violence and you hurt the person that's bullying you.
This is NOT how the world works. The civilized way to solve this is to either turn to the parents, or to your teachers. Do you seriously think that this mindset works later in life? If you get bullied at your workplace when you're an adult, do you think that you can just go to that person and beat the shit out of him, and everything will turn out alright? No!
clearly you don't know how bullying works. telling the parents or teachers will solve nothing. if it did then bullying wouldn't exist. please don't post ignorant comments. You're implying that turning to physical force is the right thing to do, and you're calling me ignorant. There's no point in arguing with you. theres no point arguing with YOU since you've obviously never been bullied or have done any research (which multiple people pointed out) showing that reporting to parents and teachers don't do anything. you can sit behind your computer screen white knighting all you want, but that doesn't change the fact that casey was cornered. why aren't you condemning the actions of the bully for that matter? its okay to punch someone in the face while having a friend filming it? Please tell me this: WHEN DID I SAY THAT IT WAS OKAY TO BULLY OTHER PEOPLE? You're fucking retarded. Just because I don't agree with you, you seem to think that I'm rooting for the bully. I DO know how it feels to be bullied, I was bullied when I was young, but I didn't have the 50 pounds him like Casey did, so I couldn't do shit about it. I got lucky, the person who bullied me actually grew up, and stopped bullying me by some miracle act. I didn't have to bodyslam him to get that message through. I can see how it seems fair out of the victims perspective, but you neglect the fact that the bully is also mentally damaged, and needs help. how do you know the bully is also mentally damaged? nice assumption. "im mentally damaged. that makes it okay for me to hurt other people" seems like you hate casey for having balls to do what you couldn't when you were young. you are probably proof of why people need to actively stop bullying--look how you turned out! somehow you're rationalizing the bully's actions, and not casey's. Sigh. You obviously didn't read what I said. I'm glad that everything(hopefully) turned out good for Casey, It was good of him to stand up to the bully sure, but he took it too far. That little kid could've been killed. You still don't get it... That kid was never killed ok? Did he? Because I don't remember that happening. Oh yeah!!! It didn't happen so you don't have to worry about that POS getting killed anymore right? So? What has that have got to do with anything? Casey got LUCKY, this doesn't justify bodyslamming people! Like I stated previously, I agree with standing up to bullies, but you should never physically harm another person! So you should never defend yourself if somebody is physically harming you? Damn, that makes complete sense!
That's true, I think you should have all the right in the world to defend yourself, but IMO Casey took it too far.
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Do you honestly think there's a good chance of that kid dying from that? I'm just not seeing it. Maybe a concussion at worst.
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On March 16 2011 08:14 lundell100 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2011 08:12 shwaffles wrote:On March 16 2011 08:11 lundell100 wrote:On March 16 2011 08:08 shwaffles wrote:On March 16 2011 08:05 lundell100 wrote:On March 16 2011 08:03 cromat wrote:On March 16 2011 07:48 lundell100 wrote:On March 16 2011 07:43 cromat wrote:On March 16 2011 07:30 lundell100 wrote:On March 16 2011 07:26 cromat wrote:
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clearly you don't know how bullying works. telling the parents or teachers will solve nothing. if it did then bullying wouldn't exist.
please don't post ignorant comments. You're implying that turning to physical force is the right thing to do, and you're calling me ignorant. There's no point in arguing with you. theres no point arguing with YOU since you've obviously never been bullied or have done any research (which multiple people pointed out) showing that reporting to parents and teachers don't do anything. you can sit behind your computer screen white knighting all you want, but that doesn't change the fact that casey was cornered. why aren't you condemning the actions of the bully for that matter? its okay to punch someone in the face while having a friend filming it? Please tell me this: WHEN DID I SAY THAT IT WAS OKAY TO BULLY OTHER PEOPLE? You're fucking retarded. Just because I don't agree with you, you seem to think that I'm rooting for the bully. I DO know how it feels to be bullied, I was bullied when I was young, but I didn't have the 50 pounds him like Casey did, so I couldn't do shit about it. I got lucky, the person who bullied me actually grew up, and stopped bullying me by some miracle act. I didn't have to bodyslam him to get that message through. I can see how it seems fair out of the victims perspective, but you neglect the fact that the bully is also mentally damaged, and needs help. how do you know the bully is also mentally damaged? nice assumption. "im mentally damaged. that makes it okay for me to hurt other people" seems like you hate casey for having balls to do what you couldn't when you were young. you are probably proof of why people need to actively stop bullying--look how you turned out! somehow you're rationalizing the bully's actions, and not casey's. Sigh. You obviously didn't read what I said. I'm glad that everything(hopefully) turned out good for Casey, It was good of him to stand up to the bully sure, but he took it too far. That little kid could've been killed. You still don't get it... That kid was never killed ok? Did he? Because I don't remember that happening. Oh yeah!!! It didn't happen so you don't have to worry about that POS getting killed anymore right? So? What has that have got to do with anything? Casey got LUCKY, this doesn't justify bodyslamming people! Like I stated previously, I agree with standing up to bullies, but you should never physically harm another person! So you should never defend yourself if somebody is physically harming you? Damn, that makes complete sense! That's true, I think you should have all the right in the world to defend yourself, but IMO Casey took it too far.
im not just talking about defending. if a kid wants to do a MAJOR bullshit it gets a slap in the face and it knows not to ever do this again. I learned a lot of good lessons this way.
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Reminds me of the book Ender's Game.
Essentially Ender's mentality is "hurt them so bad they'll never bother you again." This kid = future ender? And if so, buggers going to invade soon?!?!
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On March 16 2011 08:13 WhuazGoodJaggah wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2011 08:11 lundell100 wrote:On March 16 2011 08:08 shwaffles wrote:On March 16 2011 08:05 lundell100 wrote:On March 16 2011 08:03 cromat wrote:On March 16 2011 07:48 lundell100 wrote:On March 16 2011 07:43 cromat wrote:On March 16 2011 07:30 lundell100 wrote:On March 16 2011 07:26 cromat wrote:On March 16 2011 07:23 lundell100 wrote:
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So what you're actually implying is this: If you want to not be bullied, you turn to physical violence and you hurt the person that's bullying you.
This is NOT how the world works. The civilized way to solve this is to either turn to the parents, or to your teachers. Do you seriously think that this mindset works later in life? If you get bullied at your workplace when you're an adult, do you think that you can just go to that person and beat the shit out of him, and everything will turn out alright? No!
clearly you don't know how bullying works. telling the parents or teachers will solve nothing. if it did then bullying wouldn't exist. please don't post ignorant comments. You're implying that turning to physical force is the right thing to do, and you're calling me ignorant. There's no point in arguing with you. theres no point arguing with YOU since you've obviously never been bullied or have done any research (which multiple people pointed out) showing that reporting to parents and teachers don't do anything. you can sit behind your computer screen white knighting all you want, but that doesn't change the fact that casey was cornered. why aren't you condemning the actions of the bully for that matter? its okay to punch someone in the face while having a friend filming it? Please tell me this: WHEN DID I SAY THAT IT WAS OKAY TO BULLY OTHER PEOPLE? You're fucking retarded. Just because I don't agree with you, you seem to think that I'm rooting for the bully. I DO know how it feels to be bullied, I was bullied when I was young, but I didn't have the 50 pounds him like Casey did, so I couldn't do shit about it. I got lucky, the person who bullied me actually grew up, and stopped bullying me by some miracle act. I didn't have to bodyslam him to get that message through. I can see how it seems fair out of the victims perspective, but you neglect the fact that the bully is also mentally damaged, and needs help. how do you know the bully is also mentally damaged? nice assumption. "im mentally damaged. that makes it okay for me to hurt other people" seems like you hate casey for having balls to do what you couldn't when you were young. you are probably proof of why people need to actively stop bullying--look how you turned out! somehow you're rationalizing the bully's actions, and not casey's. Sigh. You obviously didn't read what I said. I'm glad that everything(hopefully) turned out good for Casey, It was good of him to stand up to the bully sure, but he took it too far. That little kid could've been killed. You still don't get it... That kid was never killed ok? Did he? Because I don't remember that happening. Oh yeah!!! It didn't happen so you don't have to worry about that POS getting killed anymore right? So? What has that have got to do with anything? Casey got LUCKY, this doesn't justify bodyslamming people! Like I stated previously, I agree with standing up to bullies, and I'm happy that everything turned out good for Casey, but you should never physically harm another person! yes you should. some lessons are learnt best physically. maybe in your sissy mind this wont work out but in the real world it does.
Alright, a little physical action might be necessary in some cases(like this one), but don't you think he took it a bit too far?
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On March 16 2011 08:16 WhuazGoodJaggah wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2011 08:14 lundell100 wrote:On March 16 2011 08:12 shwaffles wrote:On March 16 2011 08:11 lundell100 wrote:On March 16 2011 08:08 shwaffles wrote:On March 16 2011 08:05 lundell100 wrote:On March 16 2011 08:03 cromat wrote:On March 16 2011 07:48 lundell100 wrote:On March 16 2011 07:43 cromat wrote:On March 16 2011 07:30 lundell100 wrote:
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You're implying that turning to physical force is the right thing to do, and you're calling me ignorant.
There's no point in arguing with you.
theres no point arguing with YOU since you've obviously never been bullied or have done any research (which multiple people pointed out) showing that reporting to parents and teachers don't do anything. you can sit behind your computer screen white knighting all you want, but that doesn't change the fact that casey was cornered. why aren't you condemning the actions of the bully for that matter? its okay to punch someone in the face while having a friend filming it? Please tell me this: WHEN DID I SAY THAT IT WAS OKAY TO BULLY OTHER PEOPLE? You're fucking retarded. Just because I don't agree with you, you seem to think that I'm rooting for the bully. I DO know how it feels to be bullied, I was bullied when I was young, but I didn't have the 50 pounds him like Casey did, so I couldn't do shit about it. I got lucky, the person who bullied me actually grew up, and stopped bullying me by some miracle act. I didn't have to bodyslam him to get that message through. I can see how it seems fair out of the victims perspective, but you neglect the fact that the bully is also mentally damaged, and needs help. how do you know the bully is also mentally damaged? nice assumption. "im mentally damaged. that makes it okay for me to hurt other people" seems like you hate casey for having balls to do what you couldn't when you were young. you are probably proof of why people need to actively stop bullying--look how you turned out! somehow you're rationalizing the bully's actions, and not casey's. Sigh. You obviously didn't read what I said. I'm glad that everything(hopefully) turned out good for Casey, It was good of him to stand up to the bully sure, but he took it too far. That little kid could've been killed. You still don't get it... That kid was never killed ok? Did he? Because I don't remember that happening. Oh yeah!!! It didn't happen so you don't have to worry about that POS getting killed anymore right? So? What has that have got to do with anything? Casey got LUCKY, this doesn't justify bodyslamming people! Like I stated previously, I agree with standing up to bullies, but you should never physically harm another person! So you should never defend yourself if somebody is physically harming you? Damn, that makes complete sense! That's true, I think you should have all the right in the world to defend yourself, but IMO Casey took it too far. im not just talking about defending. if a kid wants to do a MAJOR bullshit it gets a slap in the face and it knows not to ever do this again. I learned a lot of good lessons this way.
But a slap to the face isn't really causing any physical damage to the person. It's more mental.
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On March 16 2011 07:48 lundell100 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2011 07:43 cromat wrote:On March 16 2011 07:30 lundell100 wrote:On March 16 2011 07:26 cromat wrote:On March 16 2011 07:23 lundell100 wrote:On March 16 2011 07:16 Belligerentz wrote:On March 16 2011 07:08 lundell100 wrote:On March 16 2011 07:05 Belligerentz wrote:On March 16 2011 06:55 lundell100 wrote:On March 16 2011 06:35 sureshot_ wrote:
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Have you ever been in a situation such as this? If finding an adult and showing this material was that easy bullying wouldn't be nearly as bad of a problem in the first place. First off, he wasn't recording the video, the bully's friend was. Second, the psychological damage from being bullied is almost, if not worse, than the physical damage. It's like telling people in a state of depression to just... feel happier. It doesn't work like that. I've never been in such a severe case of bullying but in my past I have felt the tensions of situations similar to this. It makes you feel trapped in a sense and honestly you aren't processing how to get these kids in trouble with the least amount of damage possible. Finally what Casey did was self-defense. He took a blow to the face, waited, watched as a little kid continued to show signs of taking aggressive action, then snapped. Maybe he over did it out of anger, but the difference is he backed off once the kid was disabled, he didn't continue to attack. Sure, getting bullied is extreme torture not only mentally but physically aswell, but do you really think that this solved anything? I never said that it was EASY for Casey to tell the teachers, I said that it was the RIGHT thing to do. What solved your bully problems, did you also hulksmash your bully? when i was being constantly bullied emotionally i took it in stride but the anger that builds up starts eating away, eventually even the strongest most seemingly happy people can contemplate ending it, especialyl if ( like in my case) there have been other emotionally issues in their life. when it turned to violence i had had enough and smashed 2 of the bullys. it worked. I try to avoid violence at all costs, i'm a big guy and i could throw my weight around but i don't like to, if a fight can be avoided i'll avoid it, but i learnt from the bullying i went through when it gets to a certain point pacifism isn't going to solve anything. fact of the matter is, all schools anti-bullying system is flawed and in the worst cases these people kill themselves, i never got to that point but if i hadn't stood up for myself i don't know how much worse the bullying would have got. bullying snowballs, the more you take the more they'll give. telling a teacher is the right thing to do, if you want it to get worse, all that will happen is the bully will try to make it even less hard to prove it's happening and most likely be more malicious for the attempt to get him into trouble. I don't enjoy violence, but it does, at the end of the day, get things resolved. i'd say 90% of bullies would most likely not even go near anyone they thought would ever fight back. If you think about it this way: What if the bully got killed? What if he hit his head in the ground and got paralyzed for the rest of his life? Would he have deserved that? no, but he would have deserved any ridicule he recieved while paralysed. ok how abotu this, casey didnt fight back, he got hit again and again, then went home and slashed his wrists open with his dads razor and died. would he have deserved that? did he deserve being alienated? singled out for abuse? made to feel unsafe in a palce he is legally forced to go to for 7-9 hours a day? to be made the punching bag for any slimy creep who wants to beat on someone to make themself feel better abotu daddy and mummy not loving them? to have things said to him so often abotu himself that he starts to believe them? So what you're actually implying is this: If you want to not be bullied, you turn to physical violence and you hurt the person that's bullying you. This is NOT how the world works. The civilized way to solve this is to either turn to the parents, or to your teachers. Do you seriously think that this mindset works later in life? If you get bullied at your workplace when you're an adult, do you think that you can just go to that person and beat the shit out of him, and everything will turn out alright? No! clearly you don't know how bullying works. telling the parents or teachers will solve nothing. if it did then bullying wouldn't exist. please don't post ignorant comments. You're implying that turning to physical force is the right thing to do, and you're calling me ignorant. There's no point in arguing with you. theres no point arguing with YOU since you've obviously never been bullied or have done any research (which multiple people pointed out) showing that reporting to parents and teachers don't do anything. you can sit behind your computer screen white knighting all you want, but that doesn't change the fact that casey was cornered. why aren't you condemning the actions of the bully for that matter? its okay to punch someone in the face while having a friend filming it? Please tell me this: WHEN DID I SAY THAT IT WAS OKAY TO BULLY OTHER PEOPLE? You're fucking retarded. Just because I don't agree with you, you seem to think that I'm rooting for the bully. I DO know how it feels to be bullied, I was bullied when I was young, but I didn't have the 50 pounds him like Casey did, so I couldn't do shit about it. I got lucky, the person who bullied me actually grew up, and stopped bullying me by some miracle act. I didn't have to bodyslam him to get that message through. I can see how it seems fair out of the victims perspective, but you neglect the fact that the bully is also mentally damaged, and needs help.
Even though you were both bullied your situation is completely different from Casey's. You got lucky and your bully stopped bullying you, but think about if a group of people were bullying your school life for a couple years. Of course anyone who is human would snap at one point and try to fight back. If you were in his situation, i'm sure your body will respond to fighting back with violence because of the adrenaline rush you get when you are in that situation. Everyone knows that physical violence is bad but it's something that you can't control when you're in a situation where you are cornered and you are being assaulted. It's just a natural reflex a human has when we're put into danger.
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On March 16 2011 08:17 lundell100 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2011 08:13 WhuazGoodJaggah wrote:On March 16 2011 08:11 lundell100 wrote:On March 16 2011 08:08 shwaffles wrote:On March 16 2011 08:05 lundell100 wrote:On March 16 2011 08:03 cromat wrote:On March 16 2011 07:48 lundell100 wrote:On March 16 2011 07:43 cromat wrote:On March 16 2011 07:30 lundell100 wrote:On March 16 2011 07:26 cromat wrote:
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clearly you don't know how bullying works. telling the parents or teachers will solve nothing. if it did then bullying wouldn't exist.
please don't post ignorant comments. You're implying that turning to physical force is the right thing to do, and you're calling me ignorant. There's no point in arguing with you. theres no point arguing with YOU since you've obviously never been bullied or have done any research (which multiple people pointed out) showing that reporting to parents and teachers don't do anything. you can sit behind your computer screen white knighting all you want, but that doesn't change the fact that casey was cornered. why aren't you condemning the actions of the bully for that matter? its okay to punch someone in the face while having a friend filming it? Please tell me this: WHEN DID I SAY THAT IT WAS OKAY TO BULLY OTHER PEOPLE? You're fucking retarded. Just because I don't agree with you, you seem to think that I'm rooting for the bully. I DO know how it feels to be bullied, I was bullied when I was young, but I didn't have the 50 pounds him like Casey did, so I couldn't do shit about it. I got lucky, the person who bullied me actually grew up, and stopped bullying me by some miracle act. I didn't have to bodyslam him to get that message through. I can see how it seems fair out of the victims perspective, but you neglect the fact that the bully is also mentally damaged, and needs help. how do you know the bully is also mentally damaged? nice assumption. "im mentally damaged. that makes it okay for me to hurt other people" seems like you hate casey for having balls to do what you couldn't when you were young. you are probably proof of why people need to actively stop bullying--look how you turned out! somehow you're rationalizing the bully's actions, and not casey's. Sigh. You obviously didn't read what I said. I'm glad that everything(hopefully) turned out good for Casey, It was good of him to stand up to the bully sure, but he took it too far. That little kid could've been killed. You still don't get it... That kid was never killed ok? Did he? Because I don't remember that happening. Oh yeah!!! It didn't happen so you don't have to worry about that POS getting killed anymore right? So? What has that have got to do with anything? Casey got LUCKY, this doesn't justify bodyslamming people! Like I stated previously, I agree with standing up to bullies, and I'm happy that everything turned out good for Casey, but you should never physically harm another person! yes you should. some lessons are learnt best physically. maybe in your sissy mind this wont work out but in the real world it does. Alright, a little physical action might be necessary in some cases(like this one), but don't you think he took it a bit too far?
no he didnt and a kid is not just dieing from a simple body slam. my and my friends had way worse fights with steal pipes n shit and we are all still alive. the human body is not as easy to wreck as you think.
"But a slap to the face isn't really causing any physical damage to the person. It's more mental."
oh you DO feel that burn for quite some time and yes the biggest damage is mental as it should be but it has a very real physical association. thats the important part of such an "emergency action"
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On March 16 2011 08:19 YaKool wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2011 07:48 lundell100 wrote:On March 16 2011 07:43 cromat wrote:On March 16 2011 07:30 lundell100 wrote:On March 16 2011 07:26 cromat wrote:On March 16 2011 07:23 lundell100 wrote:On March 16 2011 07:16 Belligerentz wrote:On March 16 2011 07:08 lundell100 wrote:On March 16 2011 07:05 Belligerentz wrote:On March 16 2011 06:55 lundell100 wrote:
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Sure, getting bullied is extreme torture not only mentally but physically aswell, but do you really think that this solved anything? I never said that it was EASY for Casey to tell the teachers, I said that it was the RIGHT thing to do. What solved your bully problems, did you also hulksmash your bully? when i was being constantly bullied emotionally i took it in stride but the anger that builds up starts eating away, eventually even the strongest most seemingly happy people can contemplate ending it, especialyl if ( like in my case) there have been other emotionally issues in their life. when it turned to violence i had had enough and smashed 2 of the bullys. it worked. I try to avoid violence at all costs, i'm a big guy and i could throw my weight around but i don't like to, if a fight can be avoided i'll avoid it, but i learnt from the bullying i went through when it gets to a certain point pacifism isn't going to solve anything. fact of the matter is, all schools anti-bullying system is flawed and in the worst cases these people kill themselves, i never got to that point but if i hadn't stood up for myself i don't know how much worse the bullying would have got. bullying snowballs, the more you take the more they'll give. telling a teacher is the right thing to do, if you want it to get worse, all that will happen is the bully will try to make it even less hard to prove it's happening and most likely be more malicious for the attempt to get him into trouble. I don't enjoy violence, but it does, at the end of the day, get things resolved. i'd say 90% of bullies would most likely not even go near anyone they thought would ever fight back. If you think about it this way: What if the bully got killed? What if he hit his head in the ground and got paralyzed for the rest of his life? Would he have deserved that? no, but he would have deserved any ridicule he recieved while paralysed. ok how abotu this, casey didnt fight back, he got hit again and again, then went home and slashed his wrists open with his dads razor and died. would he have deserved that? did he deserve being alienated? singled out for abuse? made to feel unsafe in a palce he is legally forced to go to for 7-9 hours a day? to be made the punching bag for any slimy creep who wants to beat on someone to make themself feel better abotu daddy and mummy not loving them? to have things said to him so often abotu himself that he starts to believe them? So what you're actually implying is this: If you want to not be bullied, you turn to physical violence and you hurt the person that's bullying you. This is NOT how the world works. The civilized way to solve this is to either turn to the parents, or to your teachers. Do you seriously think that this mindset works later in life? If you get bullied at your workplace when you're an adult, do you think that you can just go to that person and beat the shit out of him, and everything will turn out alright? No! clearly you don't know how bullying works. telling the parents or teachers will solve nothing. if it did then bullying wouldn't exist. please don't post ignorant comments. You're implying that turning to physical force is the right thing to do, and you're calling me ignorant. There's no point in arguing with you. theres no point arguing with YOU since you've obviously never been bullied or have done any research (which multiple people pointed out) showing that reporting to parents and teachers don't do anything. you can sit behind your computer screen white knighting all you want, but that doesn't change the fact that casey was cornered. why aren't you condemning the actions of the bully for that matter? its okay to punch someone in the face while having a friend filming it? Please tell me this: WHEN DID I SAY THAT IT WAS OKAY TO BULLY OTHER PEOPLE? You're fucking retarded. Just because I don't agree with you, you seem to think that I'm rooting for the bully. I DO know how it feels to be bullied, I was bullied when I was young, but I didn't have the 50 pounds him like Casey did, so I couldn't do shit about it. I got lucky, the person who bullied me actually grew up, and stopped bullying me by some miracle act. I didn't have to bodyslam him to get that message through. I can see how it seems fair out of the victims perspective, but you neglect the fact that the bully is also mentally damaged, and needs help. Even though you were both bullied your situation is completely different from Casey's. You got lucky and your bully stopped bullying you, but think about if a group of people were bullying your school life for a couple years. Of course anyone who is human would snap at one point and try to fight back. If you were in his situation, i'm sure your body will respond to fighting back with violence because of the adrenaline rush you get when you are in that situation. Everyone knows that physical violence is bad but it's something that you can't control when you're in a situation where you are cornered and you are being assaulted. It's just a natural reflex a human has when we're put into danger.
I agree, I probably would've tried to bodyslam that fucker aswell, but it still isn't the right way to go.
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On March 16 2011 08:14 lundell100 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2011 08:12 shwaffles wrote:On March 16 2011 08:11 lundell100 wrote:On March 16 2011 08:08 shwaffles wrote:On March 16 2011 08:05 lundell100 wrote:On March 16 2011 08:03 cromat wrote:On March 16 2011 07:48 lundell100 wrote:On March 16 2011 07:43 cromat wrote:On March 16 2011 07:30 lundell100 wrote:On March 16 2011 07:26 cromat wrote:
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clearly you don't know how bullying works. telling the parents or teachers will solve nothing. if it did then bullying wouldn't exist.
please don't post ignorant comments. You're implying that turning to physical force is the right thing to do, and you're calling me ignorant. There's no point in arguing with you. theres no point arguing with YOU since you've obviously never been bullied or have done any research (which multiple people pointed out) showing that reporting to parents and teachers don't do anything. you can sit behind your computer screen white knighting all you want, but that doesn't change the fact that casey was cornered. why aren't you condemning the actions of the bully for that matter? its okay to punch someone in the face while having a friend filming it? Please tell me this: WHEN DID I SAY THAT IT WAS OKAY TO BULLY OTHER PEOPLE? You're fucking retarded. Just because I don't agree with you, you seem to think that I'm rooting for the bully. I DO know how it feels to be bullied, I was bullied when I was young, but I didn't have the 50 pounds him like Casey did, so I couldn't do shit about it. I got lucky, the person who bullied me actually grew up, and stopped bullying me by some miracle act. I didn't have to bodyslam him to get that message through. I can see how it seems fair out of the victims perspective, but you neglect the fact that the bully is also mentally damaged, and needs help. how do you know the bully is also mentally damaged? nice assumption. "im mentally damaged. that makes it okay for me to hurt other people" seems like you hate casey for having balls to do what you couldn't when you were young. you are probably proof of why people need to actively stop bullying--look how you turned out! somehow you're rationalizing the bully's actions, and not casey's. Sigh. You obviously didn't read what I said. I'm glad that everything(hopefully) turned out good for Casey, It was good of him to stand up to the bully sure, but he took it too far. That little kid could've been killed. You still don't get it... That kid was never killed ok? Did he? Because I don't remember that happening. Oh yeah!!! It didn't happen so you don't have to worry about that POS getting killed anymore right? So? What has that have got to do with anything? Casey got LUCKY, this doesn't justify bodyslamming people! Like I stated previously, I agree with standing up to bullies, but you should never physically harm another person! So you should never defend yourself if somebody is physically harming you? Damn, that makes complete sense! That's true, I think you should have all the right in the world to defend yourself, but IMO Casey took it too far.
But he is a child he TOTALLY knows the ins and outs of martial arts and what EXACTLY to do in a fight, he did the only thing that came to mind, there was also again one or two other kids with the bully meaning a fist fight could have ended Casey in a hospital....
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On March 16 2011 08:19 WhuazGoodJaggah wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2011 08:17 lundell100 wrote:On March 16 2011 08:13 WhuazGoodJaggah wrote:On March 16 2011 08:11 lundell100 wrote:On March 16 2011 08:08 shwaffles wrote:On March 16 2011 08:05 lundell100 wrote:On March 16 2011 08:03 cromat wrote:On March 16 2011 07:48 lundell100 wrote:On March 16 2011 07:43 cromat wrote:On March 16 2011 07:30 lundell100 wrote:
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You're implying that turning to physical force is the right thing to do, and you're calling me ignorant.
There's no point in arguing with you.
theres no point arguing with YOU since you've obviously never been bullied or have done any research (which multiple people pointed out) showing that reporting to parents and teachers don't do anything. you can sit behind your computer screen white knighting all you want, but that doesn't change the fact that casey was cornered. why aren't you condemning the actions of the bully for that matter? its okay to punch someone in the face while having a friend filming it? Please tell me this: WHEN DID I SAY THAT IT WAS OKAY TO BULLY OTHER PEOPLE? You're fucking retarded. Just because I don't agree with you, you seem to think that I'm rooting for the bully. I DO know how it feels to be bullied, I was bullied when I was young, but I didn't have the 50 pounds him like Casey did, so I couldn't do shit about it. I got lucky, the person who bullied me actually grew up, and stopped bullying me by some miracle act. I didn't have to bodyslam him to get that message through. I can see how it seems fair out of the victims perspective, but you neglect the fact that the bully is also mentally damaged, and needs help. how do you know the bully is also mentally damaged? nice assumption. "im mentally damaged. that makes it okay for me to hurt other people" seems like you hate casey for having balls to do what you couldn't when you were young. you are probably proof of why people need to actively stop bullying--look how you turned out! somehow you're rationalizing the bully's actions, and not casey's. Sigh. You obviously didn't read what I said. I'm glad that everything(hopefully) turned out good for Casey, It was good of him to stand up to the bully sure, but he took it too far. That little kid could've been killed. You still don't get it... That kid was never killed ok? Did he? Because I don't remember that happening. Oh yeah!!! It didn't happen so you don't have to worry about that POS getting killed anymore right? So? What has that have got to do with anything? Casey got LUCKY, this doesn't justify bodyslamming people! Like I stated previously, I agree with standing up to bullies, and I'm happy that everything turned out good for Casey, but you should never physically harm another person! yes you should. some lessons are learnt best physically. maybe in your sissy mind this wont work out but in the real world it does. Alright, a little physical action might be necessary in some cases(like this one), but don't you think he took it a bit too far? no he didnt and a kid is not just dieing from a simple body slam. my and my friends had way worse fights with steal pipes n shit and we are all still alive. the human body is not as easy to wreck as you think. "But a slap to the face isn't really causing any physical damage to the person. It's more mental." oh you DO feel that burn for quite some time and yes the biggest damage is mental as it should be but it has a very real physical association. thats the important part of such an "emergency action"
If I put it like this: If an accident happened, and that little bullykid actually died from the bodyslam, would you STILL think that Casey made the right choice?
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On March 16 2011 08:11 lundell100 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2011 08:08 shwaffles wrote:On March 16 2011 08:05 lundell100 wrote:On March 16 2011 08:03 cromat wrote:On March 16 2011 07:48 lundell100 wrote:On March 16 2011 07:43 cromat wrote:On March 16 2011 07:30 lundell100 wrote:On March 16 2011 07:26 cromat wrote:On March 16 2011 07:23 lundell100 wrote:On March 16 2011 07:16 Belligerentz wrote:
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no, but he would have deserved any ridicule he recieved while paralysed.
ok how abotu this, casey didnt fight back, he got hit again and again, then went home and slashed his wrists open with his dads razor and died.
would he have deserved that?
did he deserve being alienated?
singled out for abuse?
made to feel unsafe in a palce he is legally forced to go to for 7-9 hours a day?
to be made the punching bag for any slimy creep who wants to beat on someone to make themself feel better abotu daddy and mummy not loving them?
to have things said to him so often abotu himself that he starts to believe them?
So what you're actually implying is this: If you want to not be bullied, you turn to physical violence and you hurt the person that's bullying you. This is NOT how the world works. The civilized way to solve this is to either turn to the parents, or to your teachers. Do you seriously think that this mindset works later in life? If you get bullied at your workplace when you're an adult, do you think that you can just go to that person and beat the shit out of him, and everything will turn out alright? No! clearly you don't know how bullying works. telling the parents or teachers will solve nothing. if it did then bullying wouldn't exist. please don't post ignorant comments. You're implying that turning to physical force is the right thing to do, and you're calling me ignorant. There's no point in arguing with you. theres no point arguing with YOU since you've obviously never been bullied or have done any research (which multiple people pointed out) showing that reporting to parents and teachers don't do anything. you can sit behind your computer screen white knighting all you want, but that doesn't change the fact that casey was cornered. why aren't you condemning the actions of the bully for that matter? its okay to punch someone in the face while having a friend filming it? Please tell me this: WHEN DID I SAY THAT IT WAS OKAY TO BULLY OTHER PEOPLE? You're fucking retarded. Just because I don't agree with you, you seem to think that I'm rooting for the bully. I DO know how it feels to be bullied, I was bullied when I was young, but I didn't have the 50 pounds him like Casey did, so I couldn't do shit about it. I got lucky, the person who bullied me actually grew up, and stopped bullying me by some miracle act. I didn't have to bodyslam him to get that message through. I can see how it seems fair out of the victims perspective, but you neglect the fact that the bully is also mentally damaged, and needs help. how do you know the bully is also mentally damaged? nice assumption. "im mentally damaged. that makes it okay for me to hurt other people" seems like you hate casey for having balls to do what you couldn't when you were young. you are probably proof of why people need to actively stop bullying--look how you turned out! somehow you're rationalizing the bully's actions, and not casey's. Sigh. You obviously didn't read what I said. I'm glad that everything(hopefully) turned out good for Casey, It was good of him to stand up to the bully sure, but he took it too far. That little kid could've been killed. You still don't get it... That kid was never killed ok? Did he? Because I don't remember that happening. Oh yeah!!! It didn't happen so you don't have to worry about that POS getting killed anymore right? So? What has that have got to do with anything? Casey got LUCKY, this doesn't justify bodyslamming people! Like I stated previously, I agree with standing up to bullies, and I'm happy that everything turned out good for Casey, but you should never physically harm another person!
Causing harm is a dominant part of human nature. It happens all the time and will still happen when we're gone.
People will do what they do no matter how much other people complain and condemn their actions.
A fight against human nature is is a futile one.
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On March 16 2011 08:20 lundell100 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2011 08:19 YaKool wrote:On March 16 2011 07:48 lundell100 wrote:On March 16 2011 07:43 cromat wrote:On March 16 2011 07:30 lundell100 wrote:On March 16 2011 07:26 cromat wrote:On March 16 2011 07:23 lundell100 wrote:On March 16 2011 07:16 Belligerentz wrote:On March 16 2011 07:08 lundell100 wrote:On March 16 2011 07:05 Belligerentz wrote:
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when i was being constantly bullied emotionally i took it in stride but the anger that builds up starts eating away, eventually even the strongest most seemingly happy people can contemplate ending it, especialyl if ( like in my case) there have been other emotionally issues in their life.
when it turned to violence i had had enough and smashed 2 of the bullys.
it worked.
I try to avoid violence at all costs, i'm a big guy and i could throw my weight around but i don't like to, if a fight can be avoided i'll avoid it, but i learnt from the bullying i went through when it gets to a certain point pacifism isn't going to solve anything.
fact of the matter is, all schools anti-bullying system is flawed and in the worst cases these people kill themselves, i never got to that point but if i hadn't stood up for myself i don't know how much worse the bullying would have got.
bullying snowballs, the more you take the more they'll give.
telling a teacher is the right thing to do, if you want it to get worse, all that will happen is the bully will try to make it even less hard to prove it's happening and most likely be more malicious for the attempt to get him into trouble.
I don't enjoy violence, but it does, at the end of the day, get things resolved.
i'd say 90% of bullies would most likely not even go near anyone they thought would ever fight back.
If you think about it this way: What if the bully got killed? What if he hit his head in the ground and got paralyzed for the rest of his life? Would he have deserved that? no, but he would have deserved any ridicule he recieved while paralysed. ok how abotu this, casey didnt fight back, he got hit again and again, then went home and slashed his wrists open with his dads razor and died. would he have deserved that? did he deserve being alienated? singled out for abuse? made to feel unsafe in a palce he is legally forced to go to for 7-9 hours a day? to be made the punching bag for any slimy creep who wants to beat on someone to make themself feel better abotu daddy and mummy not loving them? to have things said to him so often abotu himself that he starts to believe them? So what you're actually implying is this: If you want to not be bullied, you turn to physical violence and you hurt the person that's bullying you. This is NOT how the world works. The civilized way to solve this is to either turn to the parents, or to your teachers. Do you seriously think that this mindset works later in life? If you get bullied at your workplace when you're an adult, do you think that you can just go to that person and beat the shit out of him, and everything will turn out alright? No! clearly you don't know how bullying works. telling the parents or teachers will solve nothing. if it did then bullying wouldn't exist. please don't post ignorant comments. You're implying that turning to physical force is the right thing to do, and you're calling me ignorant. There's no point in arguing with you. theres no point arguing with YOU since you've obviously never been bullied or have done any research (which multiple people pointed out) showing that reporting to parents and teachers don't do anything. you can sit behind your computer screen white knighting all you want, but that doesn't change the fact that casey was cornered. why aren't you condemning the actions of the bully for that matter? its okay to punch someone in the face while having a friend filming it? Please tell me this: WHEN DID I SAY THAT IT WAS OKAY TO BULLY OTHER PEOPLE? You're fucking retarded. Just because I don't agree with you, you seem to think that I'm rooting for the bully. I DO know how it feels to be bullied, I was bullied when I was young, but I didn't have the 50 pounds him like Casey did, so I couldn't do shit about it. I got lucky, the person who bullied me actually grew up, and stopped bullying me by some miracle act. I didn't have to bodyslam him to get that message through. I can see how it seems fair out of the victims perspective, but you neglect the fact that the bully is also mentally damaged, and needs help. Even though you were both bullied your situation is completely different from Casey's. You got lucky and your bully stopped bullying you, but think about if a group of people were bullying your school life for a couple years. Of course anyone who is human would snap at one point and try to fight back. If you were in his situation, i'm sure your body will respond to fighting back with violence because of the adrenaline rush you get when you are in that situation. Everyone knows that physical violence is bad but it's something that you can't control when you're in a situation where you are cornered and you are being assaulted. It's just a natural reflex a human has when we're put into danger. I agree, I probably would've tried to bodyslam that fucker aswell, but it still isn't the right way to go.
Yes it's not the right way to handle the situation, but in the heat of the moment, you aren't going to think whether an action is ethical or not. It just happens because you don't think as much when you are in the moment.
I'm pretty sure Casey thought of his action AFTER he walked away from the fight because at that point he's cooled down and he is probably thinking about how bodyslamming might've not been the best action.
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