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On March 16 2011 07:23 lundell100 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2011 07:16 Belligerentz wrote:On March 16 2011 07:08 lundell100 wrote:On March 16 2011 07:05 Belligerentz wrote:On March 16 2011 06:55 lundell100 wrote:On March 16 2011 06:35 sureshot_ wrote:On March 16 2011 06:29 lundell100 wrote:
I don't think Casey did the right thing here. What he should've done is shown the video of the bully to the teachers, and perhaps gotten him suspended that way, it should never have go to physical force, that just makes you as bad as the bully. Think about it this way: The bully probably has some serious issues at home, and that's what making him bully other kids. He should get some help, not a fuckin' hulksmash to the ground, that won't teach him anything, that will just make him mad.
This argument somewhat goes among the lines of arguing for or against the death penalty, do you really think that the appropriate punishment for murder is death? Have you ever been in a situation such as this? If finding an adult and showing this material was that easy bullying wouldn't be nearly as bad of a problem in the first place. First off, he wasn't recording the video, the bully's friend was. Second, the psychological damage from being bullied is almost, if not worse, than the physical damage. It's like telling people in a state of depression to just... feel happier. It doesn't work like that. I've never been in such a severe case of bullying but in my past I have felt the tensions of situations similar to this. It makes you feel trapped in a sense and honestly you aren't processing how to get these kids in trouble with the least amount of damage possible. Finally what Casey did was self-defense. He took a blow to the face, waited, watched as a little kid continued to show signs of taking aggressive action, then snapped. Maybe he over did it out of anger, but the difference is he backed off once the kid was disabled, he didn't continue to attack. Sure, getting bullied is extreme torture not only mentally but physically aswell, but do you really think that this solved anything? I never said that it was EASY for Casey to tell the teachers, I said that it was the RIGHT thing to do. What solved your bully problems, did you also hulksmash your bully? when i was being constantly bullied emotionally i took it in stride but the anger that builds up starts eating away, eventually even the strongest most seemingly happy people can contemplate ending it, especialyl if ( like in my case) there have been other emotionally issues in their life. when it turned to violence i had had enough and smashed 2 of the bullys. it worked. I try to avoid violence at all costs, i'm a big guy and i could throw my weight around but i don't like to, if a fight can be avoided i'll avoid it, but i learnt from the bullying i went through when it gets to a certain point pacifism isn't going to solve anything. fact of the matter is, all schools anti-bullying system is flawed and in the worst cases these people kill themselves, i never got to that point but if i hadn't stood up for myself i don't know how much worse the bullying would have got. bullying snowballs, the more you take the more they'll give. telling a teacher is the right thing to do, if you want it to get worse, all that will happen is the bully will try to make it even less hard to prove it's happening and most likely be more malicious for the attempt to get him into trouble. I don't enjoy violence, but it does, at the end of the day, get things resolved. i'd say 90% of bullies would most likely not even go near anyone they thought would ever fight back. If you think about it this way: What if the bully got killed? What if he hit his head in the ground and got paralyzed for the rest of his life? Would he have deserved that? no, but he would have deserved any ridicule he recieved while paralysed. ok how abotu this, casey didnt fight back, he got hit again and again, then went home and slashed his wrists open with his dads razor and died. would he have deserved that? did he deserve being alienated? singled out for abuse? made to feel unsafe in a palce he is legally forced to go to for 7-9 hours a day? to be made the punching bag for any slimy creep who wants to beat on someone to make themself feel better abotu daddy and mummy not loving them? to have things said to him so often abotu himself that he starts to believe them? So what you're actually implying is this: If you want to not be bullied, you turn to physical violence and you hurt the person that's bullying you. This is NOT how the world works. The civilized way to solve this is to either turn to the parents, or to your teachers. Do you seriously think that this mindset works later in life? If you get bullied at your workplace when you're an adult, do you think that you can just go to that person and beat the shit out of him, and everything will turn out alright? No!
This is like reading doctor suess or something. Wake up dude.
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On March 16 2011 08:22 red_hq wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2011 08:14 lundell100 wrote:On March 16 2011 08:12 shwaffles wrote:On March 16 2011 08:11 lundell100 wrote:On March 16 2011 08:08 shwaffles wrote:On March 16 2011 08:05 lundell100 wrote:On March 16 2011 08:03 cromat wrote:On March 16 2011 07:48 lundell100 wrote:On March 16 2011 07:43 cromat wrote:On March 16 2011 07:30 lundell100 wrote:
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You're implying that turning to physical force is the right thing to do, and you're calling me ignorant.
There's no point in arguing with you.
theres no point arguing with YOU since you've obviously never been bullied or have done any research (which multiple people pointed out) showing that reporting to parents and teachers don't do anything. you can sit behind your computer screen white knighting all you want, but that doesn't change the fact that casey was cornered. why aren't you condemning the actions of the bully for that matter? its okay to punch someone in the face while having a friend filming it? Please tell me this: WHEN DID I SAY THAT IT WAS OKAY TO BULLY OTHER PEOPLE? You're fucking retarded. Just because I don't agree with you, you seem to think that I'm rooting for the bully. I DO know how it feels to be bullied, I was bullied when I was young, but I didn't have the 50 pounds him like Casey did, so I couldn't do shit about it. I got lucky, the person who bullied me actually grew up, and stopped bullying me by some miracle act. I didn't have to bodyslam him to get that message through. I can see how it seems fair out of the victims perspective, but you neglect the fact that the bully is also mentally damaged, and needs help. how do you know the bully is also mentally damaged? nice assumption. "im mentally damaged. that makes it okay for me to hurt other people" seems like you hate casey for having balls to do what you couldn't when you were young. you are probably proof of why people need to actively stop bullying--look how you turned out! somehow you're rationalizing the bully's actions, and not casey's. Sigh. You obviously didn't read what I said. I'm glad that everything(hopefully) turned out good for Casey, It was good of him to stand up to the bully sure, but he took it too far. That little kid could've been killed. You still don't get it... That kid was never killed ok? Did he? Because I don't remember that happening. Oh yeah!!! It didn't happen so you don't have to worry about that POS getting killed anymore right? So? What has that have got to do with anything? Casey got LUCKY, this doesn't justify bodyslamming people! Like I stated previously, I agree with standing up to bullies, but you should never physically harm another person! So you should never defend yourself if somebody is physically harming you? Damn, that makes complete sense! That's true, I think you should have all the right in the world to defend yourself, but IMO Casey took it too far. But he is a child he TOTALLY knows the ins and outs of martial arts and what EXACTLY to do in a fight, he did the only thing that came to mind, there was also again one or two other kids with the bully meaning a fist fight could have ended Casey in a hospital....
I know what you're saying, he reacted out of pure instinct, and this is totally uncontrollabe. I'm glad that this turned out good for both of them, but still, an accident could've happened, and if that was the case I'm pretty sure that you would've been thinking a whoooole different way about Caseys actions.
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On March 16 2011 08:24 Sebzou wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2011 08:11 lundell100 wrote:On March 16 2011 08:08 shwaffles wrote:On March 16 2011 08:05 lundell100 wrote:On March 16 2011 08:03 cromat wrote:On March 16 2011 07:48 lundell100 wrote:On March 16 2011 07:43 cromat wrote:On March 16 2011 07:30 lundell100 wrote:On March 16 2011 07:26 cromat wrote:On March 16 2011 07:23 lundell100 wrote:
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So what you're actually implying is this: If you want to not be bullied, you turn to physical violence and you hurt the person that's bullying you.
This is NOT how the world works. The civilized way to solve this is to either turn to the parents, or to your teachers. Do you seriously think that this mindset works later in life? If you get bullied at your workplace when you're an adult, do you think that you can just go to that person and beat the shit out of him, and everything will turn out alright? No!
clearly you don't know how bullying works. telling the parents or teachers will solve nothing. if it did then bullying wouldn't exist. please don't post ignorant comments. You're implying that turning to physical force is the right thing to do, and you're calling me ignorant. There's no point in arguing with you. theres no point arguing with YOU since you've obviously never been bullied or have done any research (which multiple people pointed out) showing that reporting to parents and teachers don't do anything. you can sit behind your computer screen white knighting all you want, but that doesn't change the fact that casey was cornered. why aren't you condemning the actions of the bully for that matter? its okay to punch someone in the face while having a friend filming it? Please tell me this: WHEN DID I SAY THAT IT WAS OKAY TO BULLY OTHER PEOPLE? You're fucking retarded. Just because I don't agree with you, you seem to think that I'm rooting for the bully. I DO know how it feels to be bullied, I was bullied when I was young, but I didn't have the 50 pounds him like Casey did, so I couldn't do shit about it. I got lucky, the person who bullied me actually grew up, and stopped bullying me by some miracle act. I didn't have to bodyslam him to get that message through. I can see how it seems fair out of the victims perspective, but you neglect the fact that the bully is also mentally damaged, and needs help. how do you know the bully is also mentally damaged? nice assumption. "im mentally damaged. that makes it okay for me to hurt other people" seems like you hate casey for having balls to do what you couldn't when you were young. you are probably proof of why people need to actively stop bullying--look how you turned out! somehow you're rationalizing the bully's actions, and not casey's. Sigh. You obviously didn't read what I said. I'm glad that everything(hopefully) turned out good for Casey, It was good of him to stand up to the bully sure, but he took it too far. That little kid could've been killed. You still don't get it... That kid was never killed ok? Did he? Because I don't remember that happening. Oh yeah!!! It didn't happen so you don't have to worry about that POS getting killed anymore right? So? What has that have got to do with anything? Casey got LUCKY, this doesn't justify bodyslamming people! Like I stated previously, I agree with standing up to bullies, and I'm happy that everything turned out good for Casey, but you should never physically harm another person! Causing harm is a dominant part of human nature. It happens all the time and will still happen when we're gone. People will do what they do no matter how much other people complain and condemn their actions. A fight against human nature is is a futile one.
Does not make it the right thing to do.
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On March 16 2011 08:22 lundell100 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2011 08:19 WhuazGoodJaggah wrote:On March 16 2011 08:17 lundell100 wrote:On March 16 2011 08:13 WhuazGoodJaggah wrote:On March 16 2011 08:11 lundell100 wrote:On March 16 2011 08:08 shwaffles wrote:On March 16 2011 08:05 lundell100 wrote:On March 16 2011 08:03 cromat wrote:On March 16 2011 07:48 lundell100 wrote:On March 16 2011 07:43 cromat wrote:
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theres no point arguing with YOU since you've obviously never been bullied or have done any research (which multiple people pointed out) showing that reporting to parents and teachers don't do anything. you can sit behind your computer screen white knighting all you want, but that doesn't change the fact that casey was cornered. why aren't you condemning the actions of the bully for that matter? its okay to punch someone in the face while having a friend filming it?
Please tell me this: WHEN DID I SAY THAT IT WAS OKAY TO BULLY OTHER PEOPLE? You're fucking retarded. Just because I don't agree with you, you seem to think that I'm rooting for the bully. I DO know how it feels to be bullied, I was bullied when I was young, but I didn't have the 50 pounds him like Casey did, so I couldn't do shit about it. I got lucky, the person who bullied me actually grew up, and stopped bullying me by some miracle act. I didn't have to bodyslam him to get that message through. I can see how it seems fair out of the victims perspective, but you neglect the fact that the bully is also mentally damaged, and needs help. how do you know the bully is also mentally damaged? nice assumption. "im mentally damaged. that makes it okay for me to hurt other people" seems like you hate casey for having balls to do what you couldn't when you were young. you are probably proof of why people need to actively stop bullying--look how you turned out! somehow you're rationalizing the bully's actions, and not casey's. Sigh. You obviously didn't read what I said. I'm glad that everything(hopefully) turned out good for Casey, It was good of him to stand up to the bully sure, but he took it too far. That little kid could've been killed. You still don't get it... That kid was never killed ok? Did he? Because I don't remember that happening. Oh yeah!!! It didn't happen so you don't have to worry about that POS getting killed anymore right? So? What has that have got to do with anything? Casey got LUCKY, this doesn't justify bodyslamming people! Like I stated previously, I agree with standing up to bullies, and I'm happy that everything turned out good for Casey, but you should never physically harm another person! yes you should. some lessons are learnt best physically. maybe in your sissy mind this wont work out but in the real world it does. Alright, a little physical action might be necessary in some cases(like this one), but don't you think he took it a bit too far? no he didnt and a kid is not just dieing from a simple body slam. my and my friends had way worse fights with steal pipes n shit and we are all still alive. the human body is not as easy to wreck as you think. "But a slap to the face isn't really causing any physical damage to the person. It's more mental." oh you DO feel that burn for quite some time and yes the biggest damage is mental as it should be but it has a very real physical association. thats the important part of such an "emergency action" If I put it like this: If an accident happened, and that little bullykid actually died from the bodyslam, would you STILL think that Casey made the right choice?
no obviously not. but the chance that the little fucker would die from such a bodyslam is so extremly slim that its the right choice if nothing harmful happens. you are looking at this in a very strange manner. as I said I had very brutal fights with my friends and my 2 brothers and such a bodyslam hurts like hell but it is nowhere near killing someone.
you can always die from the smalles bullshit but mostly nothing happens.
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If Casey broke the bully's neck, it'd be an accident, and more the bully's fault than Casey's. Any court would see it the same way, and if you don't see it that way, I seriously gotta question your logic.
When someone gets punched in the face repeatedly, ganged-up on, two things happen -
One) The victim only has to worry about his well-being, and not at all of those of his assailants.
Two) The person assaulting the victim immediately waives all rights to his well-being until the victim's safety is secure.
Now, add in the fact that the victim here is a kid... We don't ask ADULTS to show concern for their assailant's health when they're being assaulted... And yet some of you are going to ask a kid to think about the safety of someone repeatedly punching him square in the face? If I were to come to your house,and just start punching you, without showing any signs on stopping... LOL... yeah... please don't body slam me, that'd be too severe. Jesus Christ.
Some people in this thread I just need to ignore. You either gotta be stupid or an uber-troll to question what Casey did. I'm not saying you have to applaud Casey's violent defense of himself. Violence is never good. But what's worse than engaging in violence to defend yourself is to be ACCEPTING of violence. EVERYONE in that video was accepting the violence of the bully, including Casey, until Casey took it upon himself to STOP the violence. The kid deserves a medal.
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On March 16 2011 08:24 Sebzou wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2011 08:11 lundell100 wrote:On March 16 2011 08:08 shwaffles wrote:On March 16 2011 08:05 lundell100 wrote:On March 16 2011 08:03 cromat wrote:On March 16 2011 07:48 lundell100 wrote:On March 16 2011 07:43 cromat wrote:On March 16 2011 07:30 lundell100 wrote:On March 16 2011 07:26 cromat wrote:On March 16 2011 07:23 lundell100 wrote:
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So what you're actually implying is this: If you want to not be bullied, you turn to physical violence and you hurt the person that's bullying you.
This is NOT how the world works. The civilized way to solve this is to either turn to the parents, or to your teachers. Do you seriously think that this mindset works later in life? If you get bullied at your workplace when you're an adult, do you think that you can just go to that person and beat the shit out of him, and everything will turn out alright? No!
clearly you don't know how bullying works. telling the parents or teachers will solve nothing. if it did then bullying wouldn't exist. please don't post ignorant comments. You're implying that turning to physical force is the right thing to do, and you're calling me ignorant. There's no point in arguing with you. theres no point arguing with YOU since you've obviously never been bullied or have done any research (which multiple people pointed out) showing that reporting to parents and teachers don't do anything. you can sit behind your computer screen white knighting all you want, but that doesn't change the fact that casey was cornered. why aren't you condemning the actions of the bully for that matter? its okay to punch someone in the face while having a friend filming it? Please tell me this: WHEN DID I SAY THAT IT WAS OKAY TO BULLY OTHER PEOPLE? You're fucking retarded. Just because I don't agree with you, you seem to think that I'm rooting for the bully. I DO know how it feels to be bullied, I was bullied when I was young, but I didn't have the 50 pounds him like Casey did, so I couldn't do shit about it. I got lucky, the person who bullied me actually grew up, and stopped bullying me by some miracle act. I didn't have to bodyslam him to get that message through. I can see how it seems fair out of the victims perspective, but you neglect the fact that the bully is also mentally damaged, and needs help. how do you know the bully is also mentally damaged? nice assumption. "im mentally damaged. that makes it okay for me to hurt other people" seems like you hate casey for having balls to do what you couldn't when you were young. you are probably proof of why people need to actively stop bullying--look how you turned out! somehow you're rationalizing the bully's actions, and not casey's. Sigh. You obviously didn't read what I said. I'm glad that everything(hopefully) turned out good for Casey, It was good of him to stand up to the bully sure, but he took it too far. That little kid could've been killed. You still don't get it... That kid was never killed ok? Did he? Because I don't remember that happening. Oh yeah!!! It didn't happen so you don't have to worry about that POS getting killed anymore right? So? What has that have got to do with anything? Casey got LUCKY, this doesn't justify bodyslamming people! Like I stated previously, I agree with standing up to bullies, and I'm happy that everything turned out good for Casey, but you should never physically harm another person! Causing harm is a dominant part of human nature. It happens all the time and will still happen when we're gone. People will do what they do no matter how much other people complain and condemn their actions. A fight against human nature is is a futile one.
This is not about fighting human nature. This is simply an argument about Caseys actions.
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If I put it like this: If an accident happened, and that little bullykid actually died from the bodyslam, would you STILL think that Casey made the right choice?
Did he make the "right" choice with the bodyslam? In hindsight, probably not; there was probably a less lethal way of fighting back. Was his general choice inherently justified, given the situation he was placed in? I would say certainly yes. . Yes, he probably could have handled it better, perhaps not with the "best" choice, but overall I feel he was justified in fighting back.
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This is not about fighting human nature. This is simply an argument about Caseys actions.
Once you join us here in reality, outside your candy land fantasy of what "right" and "wrong" are, you will realize the ACTUAL WORLD is mostly grey.
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Lundell is cracking me up! Listen to this guy
This is NOT how the world works. The civilized way to solve this is to either turn to the parents, or to your teachers. Do you seriously think that this mindset works later in life? If you get bullied at your workplace when you're an adult, do you think that you can just go to that person and beat the shit out of him, and everything will turn out alright? No!
Maybe you missed the first part of the video? The little shit wasn't pullin yo mama joke, he was fucking hitting the kid. So yes, as far as your god awful analogy about "bullying in the work place" later in life goes, Casey, and probably every other able bodied man with even the least bit of guts that has 70lbs on the guy picking on them would thrown down.
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On March 16 2011 08:22 lundell100 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2011 08:19 WhuazGoodJaggah wrote:On March 16 2011 08:17 lundell100 wrote:On March 16 2011 08:13 WhuazGoodJaggah wrote:On March 16 2011 08:11 lundell100 wrote:On March 16 2011 08:08 shwaffles wrote:On March 16 2011 08:05 lundell100 wrote:On March 16 2011 08:03 cromat wrote:On March 16 2011 07:48 lundell100 wrote:On March 16 2011 07:43 cromat wrote:
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theres no point arguing with YOU since you've obviously never been bullied or have done any research (which multiple people pointed out) showing that reporting to parents and teachers don't do anything. you can sit behind your computer screen white knighting all you want, but that doesn't change the fact that casey was cornered. why aren't you condemning the actions of the bully for that matter? its okay to punch someone in the face while having a friend filming it?
Please tell me this: WHEN DID I SAY THAT IT WAS OKAY TO BULLY OTHER PEOPLE? You're fucking retarded. Just because I don't agree with you, you seem to think that I'm rooting for the bully. I DO know how it feels to be bullied, I was bullied when I was young, but I didn't have the 50 pounds him like Casey did, so I couldn't do shit about it. I got lucky, the person who bullied me actually grew up, and stopped bullying me by some miracle act. I didn't have to bodyslam him to get that message through. I can see how it seems fair out of the victims perspective, but you neglect the fact that the bully is also mentally damaged, and needs help. how do you know the bully is also mentally damaged? nice assumption. "im mentally damaged. that makes it okay for me to hurt other people" seems like you hate casey for having balls to do what you couldn't when you were young. you are probably proof of why people need to actively stop bullying--look how you turned out! somehow you're rationalizing the bully's actions, and not casey's. Sigh. You obviously didn't read what I said. I'm glad that everything(hopefully) turned out good for Casey, It was good of him to stand up to the bully sure, but he took it too far. That little kid could've been killed. You still don't get it... That kid was never killed ok? Did he? Because I don't remember that happening. Oh yeah!!! It didn't happen so you don't have to worry about that POS getting killed anymore right? So? What has that have got to do with anything? Casey got LUCKY, this doesn't justify bodyslamming people! Like I stated previously, I agree with standing up to bullies, and I'm happy that everything turned out good for Casey, but you should never physically harm another person! yes you should. some lessons are learnt best physically. maybe in your sissy mind this wont work out but in the real world it does. Alright, a little physical action might be necessary in some cases(like this one), but don't you think he took it a bit too far? no he didnt and a kid is not just dieing from a simple body slam. my and my friends had way worse fights with steal pipes n shit and we are all still alive. the human body is not as easy to wreck as you think. "But a slap to the face isn't really causing any physical damage to the person. It's more mental." oh you DO feel that burn for quite some time and yes the biggest damage is mental as it should be but it has a very real physical association. thats the important part of such an "emergency action" If I put it like this: If an accident happened, and that little bullykid actually died from the bodyslam, would you STILL think that Casey made the right choice?
Yes I would still think he made the right choice. He would have to deal with the repercussions of it and he definitely would have had a lot of stuff to deal with emotionally, but honestly what other response does a kid with his back literally on a wall, untrained to fight, unable to talk himself out of the situation, and physically incapable of escaping have?
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On March 16 2011 08:31 SweetNJoshSauce wrote:Lundell is cracking me up! Listen to this guy Show nested quote +This is NOT how the world works. The civilized way to solve this is to either turn to the parents, or to your teachers. Do you seriously think that this mindset works later in life? If you get bullied at your workplace when you're an adult, do you think that you can just go to that person and beat the shit out of him, and everything will turn out alright? No! Maybe you missed the first part of the video? The little shit wasn't pullin yo mama joke, he was fucking hitting the kid. So yes, as far as your god awful analogy about "bullying in the work place" later in life goes, Casey, and probably every other able bodied man with even the least bit of guts that has 70lbs on the guy picking on them would thrown down.
I was trying to make the point that thinking in the mindset of "violence solves all of your issues" is bad, but I can see how that failed.
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On March 16 2011 08:32 lundell100 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2011 08:31 SweetNJoshSauce wrote:Lundell is cracking me up! Listen to this guy This is NOT how the world works. The civilized way to solve this is to either turn to the parents, or to your teachers. Do you seriously think that this mindset works later in life? If you get bullied at your workplace when you're an adult, do you think that you can just go to that person and beat the shit out of him, and everything will turn out alright? No! Maybe you missed the first part of the video? The little shit wasn't pullin yo mama joke, he was fucking hitting the kid. So yes, as far as your god awful analogy about "bullying in the work place" later in life goes, Casey, and probably every other able bodied man with even the least bit of guts that has 70lbs on the guy picking on them would thrown down. I was trying to make the point that thinking in the mindset of "violence solves all of your issues" is bad, but I can see how that failed.
sayin "violence solves all of your issues" is as wrong as "violence is always a bad choice"
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On March 16 2011 08:32 lundell100 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2011 08:31 SweetNJoshSauce wrote:Lundell is cracking me up! Listen to this guy This is NOT how the world works. The civilized way to solve this is to either turn to the parents, or to your teachers. Do you seriously think that this mindset works later in life? If you get bullied at your workplace when you're an adult, do you think that you can just go to that person and beat the shit out of him, and everything will turn out alright? No! Maybe you missed the first part of the video? The little shit wasn't pullin yo mama joke, he was fucking hitting the kid. So yes, as far as your god awful analogy about "bullying in the work place" later in life goes, Casey, and probably every other able bodied man with even the least bit of guts that has 70lbs on the guy picking on them would thrown down. I was trying to make the point that thinking in the mindset of "violence solves all of your issues" is bad, but I can see how that failed.
0 people tried to advocate the mindset you are trying to argue against.
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On March 16 2011 08:34 Zinjil wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2011 08:32 lundell100 wrote:On March 16 2011 08:31 SweetNJoshSauce wrote:Lundell is cracking me up! Listen to this guy This is NOT how the world works. The civilized way to solve this is to either turn to the parents, or to your teachers. Do you seriously think that this mindset works later in life? If you get bullied at your workplace when you're an adult, do you think that you can just go to that person and beat the shit out of him, and everything will turn out alright? No! Maybe you missed the first part of the video? The little shit wasn't pullin yo mama joke, he was fucking hitting the kid. So yes, as far as your god awful analogy about "bullying in the work place" later in life goes, Casey, and probably every other able bodied man with even the least bit of guts that has 70lbs on the guy picking on them would thrown down. I was trying to make the point that thinking in the mindset of "violence solves all of your issues" is bad, but I can see how that failed. 0 people tried to advocate the mindset you are trying to argue against.
Well, that was the impression I was given.
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w/e, I hope everything turns out good for casey , and I hope that the bully didn't get too hurt and perhaps learned his lesson.
Good night.
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On March 16 2011 07:40 Holgerius wrote:
What's up with the notion that since nothing serious happened to the bully it's fine? If I went out drinking and driving last night and ended up getting home safely without hurting anyone or myself, that means it's a totally acceptable behaviour, right? Except it isn't. It's reckless and irresponsible, and the same thing goes for this violence IMO.
Alcohol does not punch you in the face. You drink alcohol and decide to drive while drunk.
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@lundell100
I believe violence is the only effective means to curb bullying.
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On March 16 2011 08:35 lundell100 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2011 08:34 Zinjil wrote:On March 16 2011 08:32 lundell100 wrote:On March 16 2011 08:31 SweetNJoshSauce wrote:Lundell is cracking me up! Listen to this guy This is NOT how the world works. The civilized way to solve this is to either turn to the parents, or to your teachers. Do you seriously think that this mindset works later in life? If you get bullied at your workplace when you're an adult, do you think that you can just go to that person and beat the shit out of him, and everything will turn out alright? No! Maybe you missed the first part of the video? The little shit wasn't pullin yo mama joke, he was fucking hitting the kid. So yes, as far as your god awful analogy about "bullying in the work place" later in life goes, Casey, and probably every other able bodied man with even the least bit of guts that has 70lbs on the guy picking on them would thrown down. I was trying to make the point that thinking in the mindset of "violence solves all of your issues" is bad, but I can see how that failed. 0 people tried to advocate the mindset you are trying to argue against. Well, that was the impression I was given.
No, the impression was that if you are PHYSICALLY ATTACKED, then you have the right to DEFEND YOURSELF??? Amiright???
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On March 16 2011 08:47 shwaffles wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2011 08:35 lundell100 wrote:On March 16 2011 08:34 Zinjil wrote:On March 16 2011 08:32 lundell100 wrote:On March 16 2011 08:31 SweetNJoshSauce wrote:Lundell is cracking me up! Listen to this guy This is NOT how the world works. The civilized way to solve this is to either turn to the parents, or to your teachers. Do you seriously think that this mindset works later in life? If you get bullied at your workplace when you're an adult, do you think that you can just go to that person and beat the shit out of him, and everything will turn out alright? No! Maybe you missed the first part of the video? The little shit wasn't pullin yo mama joke, he was fucking hitting the kid. So yes, as far as your god awful analogy about "bullying in the work place" later in life goes, Casey, and probably every other able bodied man with even the least bit of guts that has 70lbs on the guy picking on them would thrown down. I was trying to make the point that thinking in the mindset of "violence solves all of your issues" is bad, but I can see how that failed. 0 people tried to advocate the mindset you are trying to argue against. Well, that was the impression I was given. No the impression was that if you are PHYSICALLY ATTACKED, then you have the right to DEFEND YOURSELF??? Amiright???
I agree.
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On March 16 2011 08:46 ShadeR wrote:
@lundell100
I believe violence is the only effective means to curb bullying.
Violence to some degree might be alright, but all I'm trying to say is that Casey might've taken it a bit too far. It worked out alright in this case, but that little kid could've gotten seriously hurt.
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