Note: a number of sources are saying that Beast Master Casey has been suspended for 4 days and that the rat boy was suspended for 21. Look around for more sources please.
lmao you're freaking over him bodyslamming the kid? rofl that's NOTHING. (I've seen and felt far worse things eg. hit hard on the head with an object, by the bully.) I was bullied too, then one day punched the guy (older and bigger and stronger with people supporting him) in the nose and broke it - blood all over the place, gg he tried to be as friendy to me as possible afterward, but only for a while, then it started again.
Also, younger people are more flexible and don't have as many consequences as a grownup does. You can't judge a kids fight by grownup standards. Also, when you're getting slammed to the ground, most of the time you won't hit it with the head first - ever tried falling from a decent height? Compare that to actually getting hit in the head.
And the people talking about punching someone in the face? You don't consider that problematic at all? What if he accidentally poked his eye out while hitting? What if he hit him the wrong way and the kid had permanent consequences from it. You never know, yet you condemn him for returning the hit. Yes, that was somewhat auto-ironic and sarcastic. Holy moly what was he supposed to do? Let the kid beat him? You think only about physical damage, let me tell you, that's the least problematic one, Casy will probably have issues later in his life because of the bullying. But no, let's concentrate on the obvious.
How was he supposed to react when surrounded/cornered, scared, ridiculed and frustrated? And remember, THIS WAS NOT THE FIRST TIME THEY HIT HIM AND DID THIS! (he's been bullied for YEARS in one or the other way) Then in addition to that, HE WAS HIT IN THE F FACE. Go slam your head to a wall and tell me that feels just wonderful.
The kid should be happy he only got slammed, clearly Casey can judge when it's good to stop. Good job Casey.
Yeah that little kid is a punk i would have beat his ass too. I mean he can't really complain about what happened after he punched the the fatter kid in the face first. As far as school policy idk it seems like self defense to me but he did go a little overboard by slamming him down to just call it that, not saying the smaller kid didn't deserve it though. I'm not surprised that they would suspend both of them i mean they were "fighting" doesn't really matter whos fault it was.
It's a dangerous situation. I was bullied a lot in elementary-middle school, but I usually got in a lot of fights rather than just taking it. One time I pushed a kid back and his eye hit a coat hook on the wall...luckily no permanent damage, but damn, imagine how bad I would feel today if there was. It's easy enough to say the bully deserves it, but really, they don't. They're just kids. That kid in the video could have actually died being dropped on his head like that, you know? Looking back, I think I wish I had handled myself better in those situations instead of using violence.
P.S. The video seems to be down (both of them, actually). Here's another link I found:
Simply shocking & appalling video. I don't condone fighting in any way but Casey acted COMPLETELY in self defense & doesn't deserve to be suspended/expelled. What else was he supposed to do?
I don't think he should be hailed a hero (or "The King) he did the only thing he could... used his size & brute force to subdue a total MORON that taunted & struck him several times before he took action. You can see he even pleaded with his attacker to stop.
What disciplinary action was taken against the person that recorded the incident & all the other kids out of frame egging on their "Golden Boy" Richard? They are all just as guilty as the attacker himself. The only person in the video that acted with any sense or responsibility is the girl that prevented yet another kid attacking Casey after he body-slammed Richard.
It was obvious that little so & so Richard planned & calculated his attack, probably bragged all day to his friends about how he was going to bash up a defenseless "fat" person. (or so he thought) Casey didn't want or plan anything - he defended himself in the moment. If he just punched his attacker it would have developed into a full on fist fight...which is EXACTLY what Richard wanted. That would have resulted in both kids being injured.
I myself was branded a "nerd" in secondary school. I wasn't very popular, dated an un-popular girl, had a European surname & half way through year 7 I had to wear glasses. That was enough to make me an easy target. I'd been called every name under the sun, was regularly spat on, kicked, punched & had my glasses broken several times. I reported it to teachers but that just made it worse. The teachers did nothing & one in particular laughed & told me to "toughen up & grow some gonads".
Well, one day I took that teachers advice. During class a bully that tormented me for years stabbed me in the back with a steel ruler - still have the scar to this day. I picked up my chair & slammed it square in the nose of the bully. I didn't get assaulted after that. 15years later that bully approached me in a shopping centre (with a rather flat looking nose) & apologized for being such a prick to me in school.
People that have not been bullied have no idea what the psychological effect is on a child that suffers @ the hand of some "Hero". I suffered serious depression & had counseling for years. 25 years on & I'm fine now but wouldn't want to go back & do that all over again.
I'm a Casey, and as much as I'm generally a pacifist, I whole-heartedly support what he did. Does he deserve the suspension? Yes, of course. Was it still warranted and justified on Casey's part? Absolutely.
Some of these replies are hilarious, by the way. Self-defense? All that kid was doing was putting his hand in Casey's face and maybe slapping him lightly. Pushing him back, maybe punching him in the gut, telling him to fuck off, that's self-defense. Picking him up and doing a spinning piledriver headfirst into the ground? Not so much.
On March 16 2011 12:33 Cel.erity wrote: Some of these replies are hilarious, by the way. Self-defense? All that kid was doing was putting his hand in Casey's face and maybe slapping him lightly. Pushing him back, maybe punching him in the gut, telling him to fuck off, that's self-defense. Picking him up and doing a spinning piledriver headfirst into the ground? Not so much.
I sure hope that sarcasm or trolling. There are so many things wrong in that statement it is unbelievable.
On March 16 2011 12:33 Cel.erity wrote: Some of these replies are hilarious, by the way. Self-defense? All that kid was doing was putting his hand in Casey's face and maybe slapping him lightly. Pushing him back, maybe punching him in the gut, telling him to fuck off, that's self-defense. Picking him up and doing a spinning piledriver headfirst into the ground? Not so much.
I sure hope that sarcasm or trolling. There are so many things wrong in that statement it is unbelievable.
It's hard to tell in the video, but even if the kid was hitting him, picking him up and slamming him to the ground is obviously not "self-defense". He's like 1/3 Casey's size, Casey could just push him back and walk away. Do you even know the difference between self-defense and retaliation? This was the latter.
On March 16 2011 12:33 Cel.erity wrote: Some of these replies are hilarious, by the way. Self-defense? All that kid was doing was putting his hand in Casey's face and maybe slapping him lightly. Pushing him back, maybe punching him in the gut, telling him to fuck off, that's self-defense. Picking him up and doing a spinning piledriver headfirst into the ground? Not so much.
I sure hope that sarcasm or trolling. There are so many things wrong in that statement it is unbelievable.
It's hard to tell in the video, but even if the kid was hitting him, picking him up and slamming him to the ground is obviously not "self-defense". He's like 1/3 Casey's size, Casey could just push him back and walk away. Do you even know the difference between self-defense and retaliation? This was the latter.
I question your judgment if you cant tell the difference between a "light slap" (your words) and an OBVIOUS closed fist punch to the face that had enough force to knock his head back. If you can't even tell the difference between those two how can you even to begin to argue self-defense vs retaliation?
Edit - Maybe try watching the original video and not some slow-mo music synced remix?
On March 16 2011 12:33 Cel.erity wrote: Some of these replies are hilarious, by the way. Self-defense? All that kid was doing was putting his hand in Casey's face and maybe slapping him lightly. Pushing him back, maybe punching him in the gut, telling him to fuck off, that's self-defense. Picking him up and doing a spinning piledriver headfirst into the ground? Not so much.
I sure hope that sarcasm or trolling. There are so many things wrong in that statement it is unbelievable.
It's hard to tell in the video, but even if the kid was hitting him, picking him up and slamming him to the ground is obviously not "self-defense". He's like 1/3 Casey's size, Casey could just push him back and walk away. Do you even know the difference between self-defense and retaliation? This was the latter.
I question your judgment if you cant tell the difference between a "light slap" (your words) and an OBVIOUS closed fist punch to the face that had enough force to knock his head back. If you can't even tell the difference between those two how can you even to begin to argue self-defense vs retaliation?
Again, I don't see how it's relevant. Are you trying to say Casey's reaction was necessary to defend himself against some tiny kid throwing punches?
Why are we still arguing about this? I think Xal)CyRiC put it best when he said:
On March 15 2011 16:30 XaI)CyRiC wrote: I think it's quite apparent that the real problem is that the bullying was allowed to occur in the first place. Both Casey and the bully were very young and very likely did not fully understand the significance of their actions. Adults, in particular those employed by the school, do (or should) understand the significance of bullying and should have stepped in before it reached this point. The failure is on the system/society that allowed such a situation to occur in the first place.
With that being said, Casey was clearly the victim here and reacted in a very reasonable (albeit dangerous) way. Every person has a breaking point, and at some point every person has a right to take whatever actions are necessary to defend themselves. Casey retaliating to the bullying was entirely reasonable and expected. What the bullies were doing was not reasonable and inexcusable. Should Casey have utilized such a dangerous means of defending himself? No, because the bully could have been seriously or permanently injured. But that doesn't change the fact that Casey's reaction was perfectly understandable.
The fact that Casey's violent reaction was so reasonable and expected is the exact reason why bullying should not be tolerated and why it's so important for schools and society to prevent it. Bullying is a terrible thing to be subjected to, and it can have some serious ramifications on a person's mental health. There are many documented cases of victims of bullying reacting extremely, whether it be suicide, extreme retaliation (escalating the violence in self defense), or going postal. None of us should be surprised by how Casey reacted in self defense, whether you agree with how he defended himself or not, and I don't believe anyone has any right to expect anything else from him in such terrible circumstances.
Bottom line: The root of the problem is that the bullying was allowed to occur. If it hadn't, Casey would never have had to defend himself in any manner. Everything that happened afterward was to be expected under the circumstances. If anyone has a problem with the results (i.e. body slam), they should look at what was the real cause (bullying) and who was responsible (the adults that should have been preventing bullying).
On March 16 2011 12:33 Cel.erity wrote: Some of these replies are hilarious, by the way. Self-defense? All that kid was doing was putting his hand in Casey's face and maybe slapping him lightly. Pushing him back, maybe punching him in the gut, telling him to fuck off, that's self-defense. Picking him up and doing a spinning piledriver headfirst into the ground? Not so much.
I sure hope that sarcasm or trolling. There are so many things wrong in that statement it is unbelievable.
It's hard to tell in the video, but even if the kid was hitting him, picking him up and slamming him to the ground is obviously not "self-defense". He's like 1/3 Casey's size, Casey could just push him back and walk away. Do you even know the difference between self-defense and retaliation? This was the latter.
I question your judgment if you cant tell the difference between a "light slap" (your words) and an OBVIOUS closed fist punch to the face that had enough force to knock his head back. If you can't even tell the difference between those two how can you even to begin to argue self-defense vs retaliation?
Again, I don't see how it's relevant. Are you trying to say Casey's reaction was necessary to defend himself against some tiny kid throwing punches?
If you think Casey could have just 'pushed him back' and walked away, then you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.
How would that have helped? They would have followed him and kept tormenting him. Besides, Casey didn't do anything even after he was punched hard in the face. The scrawny fuck kept hitting him in the gut as his friends filmed and laughed at him.
And rofl at your exagguration. Spinning pile-driver head first into the ground? Right. He didn't even throw him down head first.
On March 16 2011 12:15 --radar-- wrote: Simply shocking & appalling video. I don't condone fighting in any way but Casey acted COMPLETELY in self defense & doesn't deserve to be suspended/expelled. What else was he supposed to do?
I don't think he should be hailed a hero (or "The King) he did the only thing he could... used his size & brute force to subdue a total MORON that taunted & struck him several times before he took action. You can see he even pleaded with his attacker to stop.
What disciplinary action was taken against the person that recorded the incident & all the other kids out of frame egging on their "Golden Boy" Richard? They are all just as guilty as the attacker himself. The only person in the video that acted with any sense or responsibility is the girl that prevented yet another kid attacking Casey after he body-slammed Richard.
It was obvious that little so & so Richard planned & calculated his attack, probably bragged all day to his friends about how he was going to bash up a defenseless "fat" person. (or so he thought) Casey didn't want or plan anything - he defended himself in the moment. If he just punched his attacker it would have developed into a full on fist fight...which is EXACTLY what Richard wanted. That would have resulted in both kids being injured.
I myself was branded a "nerd" in secondary school. I wasn't very popular, dated an un-popular girl, had a European surname & half way through year 7 I had to wear glasses. That was enough to make me an easy target. I'd been called every name under the sun, was regularly spat on, kicked, punched & had my glasses broken several times. I reported it to teachers but that just made it worse. The teachers did nothing & one in particular laughed & told me to "toughen up & grow some gonads".
Well, one day I took that teachers advice. During class a bully that tormented me for years stabbed me in the back with a steel ruler - still have the scar to this day. I picked up my chair & slammed it square in the nose of the bully. I didn't get assaulted after that. 15years later that bully approached me in a shopping centre (with a rather flat looking nose) & apologized for being such a prick to me in school.
People that have not been bullied have no idea what the psychological effect is on a child that suffers @ the hand of some "Hero". I suffered serious depression & had counseling for years. 25 years on & I'm fine now but wouldn't want to go back & do that all over again.
Yea, I pretty much had the same or similar experience. Even the nose part, I broke his nose and he had nosebleed problems for a long time after. (although I suspect he broke it a few times before/after it, he was a leader of hooligans or something like that) I can almost say that I'm glad he has problems with that, even thought it's "wrong"; it's one of the few "wrong" things that I did that I'm actually glad I did.
I somewhat understood where his behavior was coming from (family problems + the "normal" reasons for bullying), but I just snaped one day.
if i was that kid, casey i mean. i would've curbstomped that little fucker. seriously people need to smarten the fuck up, just because it doesnt hurt the other guy physically very much there may very well be years and years of emotional torment that he has to go to therapy for which is very expensive. casey took some tips from rashad evans and maybe next time the bully won't get up. remember, its the bullies fault he got his ass kicked. just like if you pull a fake gun on police officers they aren't going to check if its fake, they are gonna light your ass up like a cigarette.
that kid got what was coming to him and he deserved every bruise/broken bone he got. that was fucking sweet.
oh and another thing. if anyone has ever watched brock lesnar vs cain valasquez. size doesnt mean anything, somebody smaller, if they know what they are doing can seriously injure a bigger person.
oh and if you didnt watch that fight, cain DUMMIED lesnar. lesnar looked like a child in the ring, and is CLEARLY MUCH MUCH larger than cain. dont say size has anything to do with casey being wrong. its not his fault hes bigger, and its not his fault a tiny shrimp like that kid decided to play tough (look at him trying to dance around like bruce lee) what the fuck did he think was going to happen? casey was just gonna let him use him as a punching bag? totally justified 100%. little kid should've been EXPELLED, and casey should get a monetary reward.
This is the school's email. Email them and implore them to do better than this against bullying. dunheved-h.school@det.nsw.edu.au Expel the bully, Expel anyone who messes with Casey. Make this school a safer place.
oh, just cause u break your neck doesnt mean you die. you may not even be paralyzed, but i 100% am sure you will learn your lesson, and if you don't then i guess maybe you do deserve to die.
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