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Thread is about the various issues surrounding Japan in the aftermath of the recent earthquake. Don't bring the shit side of the internet to the thread, and post with the realization that this thread is very important, and very real, to your fellow members. Do not post speculative and unconfirmed news you saw on TV or anywhere else. Generally the more dramatic it sounds the less likely it's true. | ||
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Maenander
Germany4923 Posts
On March 12 2011 20:02 awha wrote: thanks a bunch. Just read this on reuters: "Radiation leaking from quake-hit nuclear plant"  http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/03/12/us-japan-quake-idUSTRE72A0SS20110312 Lets hope its not true It's really the amount that matters. Radiation leaking doesn't say much. | ||
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Japan514 Posts
On March 12 2011 20:00 zeru wrote: 5 other nuclear reactors also in threat of meltdowns, they are running on their temporary battery power as of now, there is no power anymore apparently. They have about a day to fix all the plants power. Japan keep denying the meltdown in the 1st one, whereas its almost confirmed by experts. Says who? BBC would seem to disagree. + Show Spoiler + "If the pressure vessel, which is the thing that actually holds all the nuclear fuel ... if that was to explode -- that's basically what happened at Chernobyl -- you get an enormous release of radioactive material. "It doesn't look from the television pictures ... as though it's the vessel itself. On March 12 2011 20:02 awha wrote: thanks a bunch. Just read this on reuters: "Radiation leaking from quake-hit nuclear plant" http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/03/12/us-japan-quake-idUSTRE72A0SS20110312 Lets hope its not true It's true, but at the moment it's not too bad -- as in, they have time to evacuate people. On March 12 2011 20:05 Mafe wrote: What is the weather like in Japan? Would radioactive clouds be drifting towards the ocean, the main populated areas or even korea/china/russia or be washed out by rain soon or what? Currently windows are blowing northwards. They're expecting it to face east off the coast overnight, which would be good. | ||
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yejin
France493 Posts
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zeru
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HaSDe
Germany87 Posts
if that's true, the situation is really serious! | ||
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Tommylew
Wales2717 Posts
hoep they can sort it out quick | ||
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zeru
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Klunssila
United States220 Posts
"It doesn't look from the television pictures ... as though it's the vessel itself. This is false, the nuclear reactor at Japan has a containment building. Chernobyl had no containment building which meant that the radioactive material was free to roam around the skies. Also people freaking out is just stupid. There has been no reliable reports that the REACTOR has actually exploded. | ||
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zeru
8156 Posts
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hugman
Sweden4644 Posts
On March 12 2011 20:13 HaSDe wrote: Radiation said to be at 1000mS... if that's true, the situation is really serious! Sievert doesn't measure radioactivity, it measures absorbed energy from radiation per unit of mass. It's a measurement of a radiation 'dose'. How much you absorb depends on what type of radiation it is, how long you're exposed to it and how you're exposed to it. That number is not meaningful without more context, but even so, 1 Sievert isn't that much to worry about in the grand scheme of things. It can give vomiting and such things, but it ususally won't do lasting damage. | ||
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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
anyway to get back on topic...talk about earthquake | ||
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TimeOut
Germany1277 Posts
On March 12 2011 20:18 Klunssila wrote: "If the pressure vessel, which is the thing that actually holds all the nuclear fuel ... if that was to explode -- that's basically what happened at Chernobyl -- you get an enormous release of radioactive material. "It doesn't look from the television pictures ... as though it's the vessel itself. This is false, the nuclear reactor at Japan has a containment building. Chernobyl had no containment building which meant that the radioactive material was free to roam around the skies. Also people freaking out is just stupid. There has been no reliable reports that the REACTOR has actually exploded. I just woke up, saw the coverage in the German media (which basically amounts to "OMG CHERNOBYL! EVERYBODY RUN!") and checked the video for myself. It is pretty obvious that the containment building is still intact and that the explosion was in a side area of the building. Usually that shouldn't explode too, but so far there is no proof that the containment building has ruptured or is damaged, so there is no need to freak out. The comparison to Chernobyl in particular are completely wrong. The reactor types are completely different. One of the big problems with Chernobyl was that they used graphite as a moderator, which subsequently caught fire and proceeded to spread radioactive material in the ashes over a huge area. Even if the containment building is damaged or ruptures and everything explodes, it is nearly impossible to reach the same widespread effect. It would still be one of the most dangerous nuclear power failures, but it would be a localized effect. But that is all "worst case" speculation and since we don't have any proof of the containment building failing, there is no need for panic. That radiation was detected in the environment is to be expected because they took measures to reduce the pressure both in the containment building and the actual reactor. The only thing that is troubling in those measurements is the presence of certain elements that should only be present if the fuel elements itself were damaged. | ||
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Japan514 Posts
On March 12 2011 20:18 Klunssila wrote: "If the pressure vessel, which is the thing that actually holds all the nuclear fuel ... if that was to explode -- that's basically what happened at Chernobyl -- you get an enormous release of radioactive material. "It doesn't look from the television pictures ... as though it's the vessel itself. This is false, the nuclear reactor at Japan has a containment building. Chernobyl had no containment building which meant that the radioactive material was free to roam around the skies. Also people freaking out is just stupid. There has been no reliable reports that the REACTOR has actually exploded. They're talking about the containment vessel. Also, I think people are freaking out because there's good reason to believe some of the rods are melting, and if the inner thing , the whole area could end up becoming uninhabitable for... how ever long it takes for cesium/iodine to decay. I think. I don't know, but that would seem to be the case. 20km of land in a Japanese city becoming uninhabitable is a big deal even just economically if nothing else. | ||
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snow2.0
Germany2073 Posts
On March 12 2011 20:26 oneofthem wrote: 1 sievert is just a JOKe amount of radiation i am sorry but a square mile of land gets more from background radiation in a year than that. this 1S is absorbed by the entire world and diluted it is not even a serious thing. anyway to get back on topic...talk about earthquake As of now, it would appear to me that people work at the thing. Rather than wait at the other end of the world for that "bit" of radiation to dissipate in the atmosphere. They may be giving their life to keep things under as much control as can be applied. | ||
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LancerJ
United States160 Posts
On March 12 2011 20:13 HaSDe wrote: Radiation said to be at 1000mS... if that's true, the situation is really serious! I've been watching NHK on ustream and the number reported there is a measurement, as of ~5 hours ago, of 1000 μSv (micro, not milli) over the course of 1 hour. This is comparable to an average background radiation dose over 1 year absorbed in 1 hour. Only if it was 1000 times higher would you start getting nausea, hair loss, bleeding, etc. As of now (8:30pm in Japan) the prime minister has started a press conference. | ||
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Japan514 Posts
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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
On March 12 2011 20:30 snow2.0 wrote: As of now, it would appear to me that people work at the thing. Rather than wait at the other end of the world for that "bit" of radiation to dissipate in the atmosphere. They may be giving their life to keep things under as much control as can be applied. of course. they are doing an extremely important job. | ||
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maahes`ra
United States255 Posts
That press conference had no -beef-. AUGH. I can't sleep, this is all driving me nuts. ;~; | ||
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dump
Japan514 Posts
So we're safe. | ||
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kaisen
United States601 Posts
Must keep update... | ||
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