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Thread is about the various issues surrounding Japan in the aftermath of the recent earthquake. Don't bring the shit side of the internet to the thread, and post with the realization that this thread is very important, and very real, to your fellow members.

Do not post speculative and unconfirmed news you saw on TV or anywhere else. Generally the more dramatic it sounds the less likely it's true.
theherder2
Profile Joined September 2010
United States538 Posts
March 12 2011 10:26 GMT
#1481
On March 12 2011 19:09 dump wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2011 19:08 fanta[Rn] wrote:
from what I read they couldn't reach the valve to lower the pressure hence they might have blown it up
don't quote me on that though


That's one of the theories, but then there's this picture:

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Can you explain the picture? Sorry -.-;
dump
Profile Joined August 2010
Japan514 Posts
March 12 2011 10:27 GMT
#1482
On March 12 2011 19:22 Maggeus wrote:
Well, I finally looked at it, since I wasn't exactly sure, but now it's 100% sure.

4 Sv = 4000 mSv = 4000000 uSv is equal to a DL50, meaning 50% chance of death.


I don't think the concern is so much whether or not you'll die immediately as it is how healthy the gradual buildup of radioactive material in your body is.

When I got my cat radioactive iodine treatment for hyperthyroidism, they wouldn't let me see him for a week, and then they wouldn't let me sleep with him for two more -- not because my cat's a nuclear bomb, but because it's going to add to my total exposure.
dump
Profile Joined August 2010
Japan514 Posts
March 12 2011 10:29 GMT
#1483
On March 12 2011 19:26 grobo wrote:
After basically zero sleep and feeling like shit since this whole thing started i JUST now got word from my girlfriend that her family in Sendai is ok. Such a feeling of relief.

I hope everyone else got the same kind of good news!


Glad to hear. I'm still waiting for contact from my relatives in Nagano...

On March 12 2011 19:26 theherder2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2011 19:09 dump wrote:
On March 12 2011 19:08 fanta[Rn] wrote:
from what I read they couldn't reach the valve to lower the pressure hence they might have blown it up
don't quote me on that though


That's one of the theories, but then there's this picture:

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Can you explain the picture? Sorry -.-;


The top picture is the plant in the morning; the bottom picture is after the explosion was heard. All that's left of one of its walls is the framework.
Maggeus
Profile Joined April 2010
France277 Posts
March 12 2011 10:29 GMT
#1484
On March 12 2011 19:27 dump wrote:

I don't think the concern is so much whether or not you'll die immediately as it is how healthy the gradual buildup of radioactive material in your body is.


Exactly. And the numbers I gave is the total exposure, everything cumulated.
Meaning you can have it over one week, or in a minute, the chance will be the same.
Pistolfied
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada79 Posts
March 12 2011 10:29 GMT
#1485
Video of the explosion:
Stop saying anywayS, it's anyway, not anyway>>S<<. Anyways is not a word!!!
kaisen
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States601 Posts
March 12 2011 10:30 GMT
#1486
On March 12 2011 19:29 Pistolfied wrote:
Video of the explosion: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOOjqjntjDY

I don't understand what they are saying.
iPlaY.NettleS
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Australia4373 Posts
March 12 2011 10:31 GMT
#1487
On March 12 2011 09:51 NukeTheStars wrote:
If you haven't donated to the efforts yet, whip out those wallets! Red Cross websites accept any amount of money, and they will do kickass stuff with it. Go sell one of your crappy games at Gamestop or Ebay or wherever and move that cash, because our Japanese friends need it a hell of a lot more than we do! Go go go

Instead of sending donations why not go out of your way to pick up some made in Japan items?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7PvoI6gvQs
Ingruz
Profile Joined May 2010
Italy380 Posts
March 12 2011 10:33 GMT
#1488
On March 12 2011 19:26 grobo wrote:
After basically zero sleep and feeling like shit since this whole thing started i JUST now got word from my girlfriend that her family in Sendai is ok. Such a feeling of relief.

I hope everyone else got the same kind of good news!


Very good news dude!
My life for Aiur!
theherder2
Profile Joined September 2010
United States538 Posts
March 12 2011 10:34 GMT
#1489
On March 12 2011 19:29 dump wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2011 19:26 grobo wrote:
After basically zero sleep and feeling like shit since this whole thing started i JUST now got word from my girlfriend that her family in Sendai is ok. Such a feeling of relief.

I hope everyone else got the same kind of good news!


Glad to hear. I'm still waiting for contact from my relatives in Nagano...

Show nested quote +
On March 12 2011 19:26 theherder2 wrote:
On March 12 2011 19:09 dump wrote:

That's one of the theories, but then there's this picture:

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Can you explain the picture? Sorry -.-;


The top picture is the plant in the morning; the bottom picture is after the explosion was heard. All that's left of one of its walls is the framework.


so the circled area is supposed to be one of those white cubed buildings?
dump
Profile Joined August 2010
Japan514 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-12 10:37:08
March 12 2011 10:35 GMT
#1490
On March 12 2011 19:30 kaisen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2011 19:29 Pistolfied wrote:
Video of the explosion: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOOjqjntjDY

I don't understand what they are saying.


"It's hard to see if there's a building where this (what we believe to be) steam is. Can we go back there?"

"Ah, there is. So you see that building there. Now that building is gone."

"Looks like it. The smoke is going up."

"It's at the front."

"We have some new information: the press conference expected at 5PM will be delayed for more discussions. We believe it could be to discuss the explosion."

"Well either way, you can see that building exploding. The worst case scenario that I might make of this is a steam explosion, meaning that the containment vessel is gone."


On March 12 2011 19:34 theherder2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2011 19:29 dump wrote:
On March 12 2011 19:26 grobo wrote:
After basically zero sleep and feeling like shit since this whole thing started i JUST now got word from my girlfriend that her family in Sendai is ok. Such a feeling of relief.

I hope everyone else got the same kind of good news!


Glad to hear. I'm still waiting for contact from my relatives in Nagano...

On March 12 2011 19:26 theherder2 wrote:
On March 12 2011 19:09 dump wrote:

That's one of the theories, but then there's this picture:

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Can you explain the picture? Sorry -.-;


The top picture is the plant in the morning; the bottom picture is after the explosion was heard. All that's left of one of its walls is the framework.


so the circled area is supposed to be one of those white cubed buildings?


Yeah.
koksnuss91
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany4 Posts
March 12 2011 10:35 GMT
#1491
ohh my god... thats so terrible!
i just want to fly to japan and help there!
damn it!!!
asdf
fanta[Rn]
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Japan2465 Posts
March 12 2011 10:37 GMT
#1492
Serious damage to reactor container at nuclear plant unlikely - Kyodo quoting Japan nuclear safety agency - Reuters
zhurai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States5660 Posts
March 12 2011 10:37 GMT
#1493
luckly one of the people I know is ok....though hopefully the others I haven't heard from a long time are ok.... argh ><
Twitter: @zhurai | Site: http://zhurai.com
dump
Profile Joined August 2010
Japan514 Posts
March 12 2011 10:38 GMT
#1494
On March 12 2011 19:37 fanta[Rn] wrote:
Serious damage to reactor container at nuclear plant unlikely - Kyodo quoting Japan nuclear safety agency - Reuters


Yeahh... uhh... yeah. No.
Pistolfied
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada79 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-12 10:40:44
March 12 2011 10:39 GMT
#1495
On March 12 2011 19:30 kaisen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2011 19:29 Pistolfied wrote:
Video of the explosion: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOOjqjntjDY

I don't understand what they are saying.


A buildup of hydrogen due to the meltdown of rods reacting with oxygen was a possible cause of the explosion. The video itself was very recent after the explosion so I believe the newscasters are just talking about how it's an explosion without really knowing what it is going on.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-12307698
BBC Livestream talks about it every couple minutes and is switching between broadcasting the plant and the tsunami.

Edit: Also, not sure if someone already mentioned this but (from the BBC)
#
1023: Japanese authorities are extending the evacuation zone around the two Fukushima nuclear plants from 10km to 20km, according to local media.
Stop saying anywayS, it's anyway, not anyway>>S<<. Anyways is not a word!!!
fanta[Rn]
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Japan2465 Posts
March 12 2011 10:39 GMT
#1496
man I hope gov is telling the truth T_T
dump
Profile Joined August 2010
Japan514 Posts
March 12 2011 10:41 GMT
#1497
On March 12 2011 19:39 fanta[Rn] wrote:
man I hope gov is telling the truth T_T


They need to tell us what that building was -- though I really can't think of anything that would cause a catastrophic explosion with white smoke coming out.

Can any physicists person comment?
Loanshark
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
China3094 Posts
March 12 2011 10:41 GMT
#1498
On March 12 2011 19:38 dump wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2011 19:37 fanta[Rn] wrote:
Serious damage to reactor container at nuclear plant unlikely - Kyodo quoting Japan nuclear safety agency - Reuters


Yeahh... uhh... yeah. No.


I'm pretty sure the explosion was at some other part of the plant, not the reactor.

I seriously hope it doesn't snowball into another Chernobyl.
No dough, no go. And no mercy.
dump
Profile Joined August 2010
Japan514 Posts
March 12 2011 10:43 GMT
#1499
On March 12 2011 19:41 Loanshark wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2011 19:38 dump wrote:
On March 12 2011 19:37 fanta[Rn] wrote:
Serious damage to reactor container at nuclear plant unlikely - Kyodo quoting Japan nuclear safety agency - Reuters


Yeahh... uhh... yeah. No.


I'm pretty sure the explosion was at some other part of the plant, not the reactor.

I seriously hope it doesn't snowball into another Chernobyl.


I don't think so, but I think the area will become uninhabitable for a long time probably? I don't know what the half life of cesium and iodine but that's probably the determining factor along with the actual amount -- and probably the weather.
Benjef
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United Kingdom6921 Posts
March 12 2011 10:43 GMT
#1500
"Japanese authorities say troops found between 300 and 400 bodies in the coastal city of Rikuzentakata, which was devastated by the tsunami - NHK."

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