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Thread is about the various issues surrounding Japan in the aftermath of the recent earthquake. Don't bring the shit side of the internet to the thread, and post with the realization that this thread is very important, and very real, to your fellow members.

Do not post speculative and unconfirmed news you saw on TV or anywhere else. Generally the more dramatic it sounds the less likely it's true.
dump
Profile Joined August 2010
Japan514 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-12 09:18:05
March 12 2011 09:17 GMT
#1441
On March 12 2011 18:15 elscuba wrote:
Edano and Nuclear Safety Agency virtually say nothing about explosion at Fukushima 1.

I think it is a bad sign. Sooo bad. I am scared.


I'm hearing a lot of fear mongering coming out of the Japanese web right now. I think they genuinely don't know much right now.

The only thing that bothers me about that press conference is the fact that they supposedly don't know what exactly exploded... you'd think it'd be pretty obvious to anyone working at Tepco if one of its buildings is suddenly missing all of its walls.
Bear4188
Profile Joined March 2010
United States1797 Posts
March 12 2011 09:19 GMT
#1442
The media is proficient at fear mongering, particularly anything involving radiation. It's really obnoxious
"I learned very early the difference between knowing the name of something and knowing something." - R. Feynman
Electric.Jesus
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany755 Posts
March 12 2011 09:20 GMT
#1443
On March 12 2011 18:17 dump wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2011 18:15 elscuba wrote:
Edano and Nuclear Safety Agency virtually say nothing about explosion at Fukushima 1.

I think it is a bad sign. Sooo bad. I am scared.


I'm hearing a lot of fear mongering coming out of the Japanese web right now. I think they genuinely don't know much right now.

The only thing that bothers me about that press conference is the fact that they supposedly don't know what exactly exploded... you'd think it'd be pretty obvious to anyone working at Tepco if one of its buildings is suddenly missing all of its walls.


Usually when authorities provide little infromation and say "stay calm" shit is about to hit the fan. So I can fully understand that people are afraid. I would be, too.
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dump
Profile Joined August 2010
Japan514 Posts
March 12 2011 09:22 GMT
#1444
The four injured near the reactor when the explosion happened aren't severely hurt.
sk1nex
Profile Joined May 2010
Finland299 Posts
March 12 2011 09:29 GMT
#1445
@ BBC: 0923: Before the explosion, the government had declared a state of emergency at five nuclear reactors after the generators pumping cooling water at the reactors failed.

So should this suggest that it indeed was a reactor that exploded?
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dump
Profile Joined August 2010
Japan514 Posts
March 12 2011 09:31 GMT
#1446
On March 12 2011 18:29 sk1nex wrote:
@ BBC: 0923: Before the explosion, the government had declared a state of emergency at five nuclear reactors after the generators pumping cooling water at the reactors failed.

So should this suggest that it indeed was a reactor that exploded?


I don't think so. Apparently it was a legal requirement that if any of three conditions happened (including if a backup cooler failed), they'd declare a state of emergency.

I don't think they expected it to get this bad.
kaisen
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States601 Posts
March 12 2011 09:35 GMT
#1447
Radiation levels increase at Fukushima No.1 after blast reports

12/03/2011 04:15 (00:16 minutes ago)

The FINANCIAL -- TOKYO. Radiation levels at the quake-hit Fukushima No.1 nuclear plant in northeastern Japan have increased following a reported blast, the television said quoting local authorities on March 12, according to RIA Novosti.
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Tokyo Electricity Company, which operates the nuclear plant, said an explosion was heard in the area of the Fukushima No.1 plant and white smoke could be seen ten minutes later.

Japan's NHK company has circulated photos of the Fukushima No.1 plant, which showed the external wall of one of the units damaged by the alleged blast.

Media reported high radiation levels in and near the first unit of the plant on March 12, citing low water levels and overheated reactors as the causes. People began to be evacuated from the area.

Officials denied any meltdown but then the Industry Ministry called an emergency news conference to say that experts had released pressure and let out steam in the reactors of the first unit in a move to prevent radiation leaks in the area. The release of steam is likely to include radioactive materials, the Kyodo news agency has said.


http://finchannel.com/news_flash/World/82983_Radiation_levels_increase_at_Fukushima_No.1_after_blast_reports/
Dyllyn
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Singapore670 Posts
March 12 2011 09:37 GMT
#1448
There's at least 1 ~5.0 aftershock every hour happening off the East Coast of Japan
scv rush ftw
StyLeD
Profile Joined January 2011
United States2965 Posts
March 12 2011 09:38 GMT
#1449
On March 12 2011 18:11 Alay wrote:
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On March 12 2011 17:14 smileyyy wrote:
On March 12 2011 17:01 GenericTerranPlayer wrote:
On March 12 2011 16:58 smileyyy wrote:
hmm once again its proven nuclear energy is not safe at all. lets hope there wont be too much damage.


bullshit. People are just afraid of the word nuclear. Any other power plant would have trouble following the 5th largest earthquake since 1900. And all that's happening here is a minor leak. I would hazard to say Nuclear power plants have the best record of all fuel-using power plants worldwide.

How extraordinarily narrow minded

haha saying me being narrow minded while talking about nuclear energy lol.
Yeah nuclear energy is such long term thought out process since theres still no solution what to do with the waste.
My point is Japan build 55 nuclear plant knowing of the danger of quakes by the way just google Kurihara Nuclear Power Plant it got damaged in 2008 by a ~7 earth quake too. leaking radioactive material


And Oil Drilling caused a massive leak just recently--does that mean that using that is unsafe too? Welp, guess I'm walking to work tomorrow.

Nuclear Power is incredibly safe, reliable and quite efficient. The place just got slammed by a massive earthquake _and_ a tsunami. It's amazing it's in as good of shape as it is.


Which is amazing, considering how we've been paranoid about nuclear power plants and haven't built one since like 1975.
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a176
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada6688 Posts
March 12 2011 09:38 GMT
#1450
On March 12 2011 18:37 GenericTerranPlayer wrote:
There's at least 1 ~5.0 aftershock every hour happening off the East Coast of Japan


there's been several in the past hour alone ... atleast its better that the crust is moving like this in smaller frequent amounts instead of one large movement
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Dyllyn
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Singapore670 Posts
March 12 2011 09:40 GMT
#1451
On March 12 2011 18:38 a176 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2011 18:37 GenericTerranPlayer wrote:
There's at least 1 ~5.0 aftershock every hour happening off the East Coast of Japan


there's been several in the past hour alone ... atleast its better that the crust is moving like this in smaller frequent amounts instead of one large movement


must be really freaky if you can feel them...
scv rush ftw
Maggeus
Profile Joined April 2010
France277 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-12 09:41:32
March 12 2011 09:40 GMT
#1452
On March 12 2011 18:38 StyLeD wrote:
Which is amazing, considering how we've been paranoid about nuclear power plants and haven't built one since like 1975.


Understandable since the paranoïa of Three Mile Island. Still, USA got the most nuclear reactors in the world. But let's not derail the thread on a nuclear polemic, shall we ?

And isn't one being constructed right now ? (maybe I don't remember that well)
dump
Profile Joined August 2010
Japan514 Posts
March 12 2011 09:40 GMT
#1453
On March 12 2011 18:37 GenericTerranPlayer wrote:
There's at least 1 ~5.0 aftershock every hour happening off the East Coast of Japan


More like 5 to 15... http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsww/Quakes/quakes_all.html
thoradycus
Profile Joined August 2010
Malaysia3262 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-12 09:45:43
March 12 2011 09:45 GMT
#1454
On March 12 2011 18:40 dump wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2011 18:37 GenericTerranPlayer wrote:
There's at least 1 ~5.0 aftershock every hour happening off the East Coast of Japan


More like 5 to 15... http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsww/Quakes/quakes_all.html

zz nvm
dump
Profile Joined August 2010
Japan514 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-12 09:47:01
March 12 2011 09:46 GMT
#1455
On March 12 2011 18:45 thoradycus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2011 18:40 dump wrote:
On March 12 2011 18:37 GenericTerranPlayer wrote:
There's at least 1 ~5.0 aftershock every hour happening off the East Coast of Japan


More like 5 to 15... http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsww/Quakes/quakes_all.html

zz nvm


Nope: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richter_magnitude_scale#Richter_magnitudes

Worth noting though that 9.0-9.9 happens once every 20 years and 8.0-8.9 happens once a year...
Marradron
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Netherlands1586 Posts
March 12 2011 09:46 GMT
#1456
On March 12 2011 18:45 thoradycus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2011 18:40 dump wrote:
On March 12 2011 18:37 GenericTerranPlayer wrote:
There's at least 1 ~5.0 aftershock every hour happening off the East Coast of Japan


More like 5 to 15... http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsww/Quakes/quakes_all.html

zz nvm


He's saying there are 5-15 5 scale earthquackes in an hour instead of 1
vega12
Profile Joined April 2010
Japan73 Posts
March 12 2011 09:48 GMT
#1457
On March 12 2011 18:40 GenericTerranPlayer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2011 18:38 a176 wrote:
On March 12 2011 18:37 GenericTerranPlayer wrote:
There's at least 1 ~5.0 aftershock every hour happening off the East Coast of Japan


there's been several in the past hour alone ... atleast its better that the crust is moving like this in smaller frequent amounts instead of one large movement


must be really freaky if you can feel them...


Yeah, every 30-60 minutes you can feel a little bit of movement even in Tokyo. This is normal though following a big quake. As far as I know, there is concern that there might be another big quake within the next month in the area if history is any indication.
Hydrogen is a light odorless gas, which, given enough time, turns into people.
Macabre
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1262 Posts
March 12 2011 09:49 GMT
#1458
CNN announcing they think the core is breached/worst case scenario.
Those who know how to think need no teachers. Tasteless - I think I'll take my shirt off and let my muscles do the casting
dump
Profile Joined August 2010
Japan514 Posts
March 12 2011 09:52 GMT
#1459
On March 12 2011 18:49 Macabre wrote:
CNN announcing they think the core is breached/worst case scenario.


I'm worried, ever since the press conference NHK has been doing reruns right now when you'd think they'd be watching the plants...
Benjef
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United Kingdom6921 Posts
March 12 2011 09:53 GMT
#1460
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-12720219

Information on the Explosion. This is real bad . Radioactive material detected outside ><
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