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Thread is about the various issues surrounding Japan in the aftermath of the recent earthquake. Don't bring the shit side of the internet to the thread, and post with the realization that this thread is very important, and very real, to your fellow members.

Do not post speculative and unconfirmed news you saw on TV or anywhere else. Generally the more dramatic it sounds the less likely it's true.
Masheyoon
Profile Joined October 2009
United States781 Posts
March 11 2011 17:20 GMT
#941
On March 12 2011 02:19 chobopeon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2011 02:14 Masheyoon wrote:
On March 12 2011 02:05 chobopeon wrote:
I hate to do this (not read through 50 pages and check) but I think thisthis deserves repeating even if its already been posted:

The headline you won't be reading: "Millions saved in Japan by good engineering and government building codes." But it's the truth


...? I don't understand. He's implying (by the use of the word 'good') that Japan's structural engineering is lacking when it's probably the most prepared country in the world for earthquake disasters. The damage toll would've been far worse had this hit anywhere else, I think.


Ah, no. He's saying that Japanese engineering and preparedness is really, really fantastic and should be getting a lot of appreciation. Use of the word good is a compliment in this sentence, I'm not sure how you read it otherwise. I suppose I could be mistaken but I'm reading that tweet as a big compliment toward Japan in the face of a huge disaster.


Yeah, I see it now. Sorry for the misinterpretation - haven't slept well the past 12 hours.
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43170 Posts
March 11 2011 17:21 GMT
#942
On March 12 2011 02:18 Nich wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2011 02:13 KwarK wrote:
On March 12 2011 02:12 Nich wrote:
On March 12 2011 02:10 KwarK wrote:
On March 12 2011 02:05 chobopeon wrote:
I hate to do this (not read through 50 pages and check) but I think this deserves repeating even if its already been posted:

The headline you won't be reading: "Millions saved in Japan by good engineering and government building codes." But it's the truth

I think everyone appreciates how incredible it is that a nation as urban as Japan can be hit by a quake this strong and take so little damage. It's a triumph of humanity over nature that we had the foresight to plan against an earthquake, a society that ensured that all buildings would be covered and the ingenuity to achieve it.


I have heard about it before and what exactly makes it this strong to be able to sustain the quake?


This.

Edit: While I know this is a tragedy for those involved watching that video just makes me think "humanity, fuck yeah". Truly incredible.



I'm not sure what is preventing it from collapsing but i assume it was wheels on the building that i heard when a senior was telling me about it?

The entire building is designed to bend so it can move with the quakes, absorbing the shock throughout the length of it where a more rigid building would break. But the fact that we can intentionally design a skyscraper to be flexible is staggering.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-11 17:22:24
March 11 2011 17:21 GMT
#943
On March 12 2011 02:18 Nich wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2011 02:13 KwarK wrote:
On March 12 2011 02:12 Nich wrote:
On March 12 2011 02:10 KwarK wrote:
On March 12 2011 02:05 chobopeon wrote:
I hate to do this (not read through 50 pages and check) but I think this deserves repeating even if its already been posted:

The headline you won't be reading: "Millions saved in Japan by good engineering and government building codes." But it's the truth

I think everyone appreciates how incredible it is that a nation as urban as Japan can be hit by a quake this strong and take so little damage. It's a triumph of humanity over nature that we had the foresight to plan against an earthquake, a society that ensured that all buildings would be covered and the ingenuity to achieve it.


I have heard about it before and what exactly makes it this strong to be able to sustain the quake?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhJzdtzl6KY
This.

Edit: While I know this is a tragedy for those involved watching that video just makes me think "humanity, fuck yeah". Truly incredible.



I'm not sure what is preventing it from collapsing but i assume it was wheels on the building that i heard when a senior was telling me about it?


Everything has a certain elastic constant and if you engineer it well so that the stress doesn't build up too high on any point that it breaks it will simply oscillate and slowly lose the energy that way. Wheels??? Obviously materials is really important for this is way. It's just an example of the success of the life's work of thousands of brilliant minds.
Lanaia
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada1142 Posts
March 11 2011 17:26 GMT
#944
People here are making me sick (here, I mean in my town). They're saying "Who should care about the earthquake? Japan was overpopulated anyways."

This is a huge deal, am I wrong?
<3 If you chase a mirage, the desert will swallow you.
adso
Profile Joined March 2011
718 Posts
March 11 2011 17:28 GMT
#945
On March 12 2011 02:10 KwarK wrote:
"...triumph of humanity over nature...


for once we puny humans prevailed...

all my love to the people facing such drastic (lethal) events...

billyX333
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States1360 Posts
March 11 2011 17:30 GMT
#946
On March 12 2011 02:13 KwarK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2011 02:12 Nich wrote:
On March 12 2011 02:10 KwarK wrote:
On March 12 2011 02:05 chobopeon wrote:
I hate to do this (not read through 50 pages and check) but I think this deserves repeating even if its already been posted:

The headline you won't be reading: "Millions saved in Japan by good engineering and government building codes." But it's the truth

I think everyone appreciates how incredible it is that a nation as urban as Japan can be hit by a quake this strong and take so little damage. It's a triumph of humanity over nature that we had the foresight to plan against an earthquake, a society that ensured that all buildings would be covered and the ingenuity to achieve it.


I have heard about it before and what exactly makes it this strong to be able to sustain the quake?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhJzdtzl6KY
This.

Edit: While I know this is a tragedy for those involved watching that video just makes me think "humanity, fuck yeah". Truly incredible.

But Tokyo was over 200 miles from the epicenter. Would it have been able to hold up had it been closer? I mean, do they really have to design every single building to withstand a 9.0 earthquake? I'm quite ignorant as to how far engineering has come, so anyone care to enlighten me?
Akamiri
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Vietnam401 Posts
March 11 2011 17:30 GMT
#947
Sendai is the place I love the most...
no.. ((((
***SamsungKHAN***TBLS*** :x:x ***NaDa*** BoxeR *** FruitDealer *** MarineKing ***:x Hwaiting~~!!! P.S: I'M A GIRL
fOrQQ
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Hong Kong321 Posts
March 11 2011 17:30 GMT
#948
One of my friends lives in Sendai, REALLY hope he's ok...
Pretty worrying when all my other friends in Japan are using SNS to say they're ok except him...
elscuba
Profile Joined July 2008
Japan34 Posts
March 11 2011 17:31 GMT
#949
Now I am so scared at Fukushima 1 atomic power plant.....
chobopeon
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States7342 Posts
March 11 2011 17:32 GMT
#950
On March 12 2011 02:30 fOrQQ wrote:
One of my friends lives in Sendai, REALLY hope he's ok...
Pretty worrying when all my other friends in Japan are using SNS to say they're ok except him...


:[

hope he's okay. power's out in northern japan, unsure how it would affect different cell networks but its possible that he just can't get word out yet.
:O
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15723 Posts
March 11 2011 17:37 GMT
#951
On March 12 2011 02:30 fOrQQ wrote:
One of my friends lives in Sendai, REALLY hope he's ok...
Pretty worrying when all my other friends in Japan are using SNS to say they're ok except him...


Don't let yourself worry, man! This is a pretty crazy situation, but there are a variety of reasons he could have not sent out a message yet. Maybe his phone was damaged or a variety of other reasons~ I'll keep your friend in my thoughts~
Terrix
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany305 Posts
March 11 2011 17:38 GMT
#952
I heard the wave is going to hit California... I live in Germany right now but my family is near the coast, doubt it'd be big enough to do any damage there tho... am I wrong?
LarJarsE
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States1378 Posts
March 11 2011 17:38 GMT
#953
This shit is crazy.. And those buildings are badass. I hope all is well for those effected by this natural disaster.
since 98'
tenacity
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
1587 Posts
March 11 2011 17:38 GMT
#954
dont worry about california. everything is ok there.
It does not need to be fun to be fun.
Broodwich
Profile Joined February 2009
United States393 Posts
March 11 2011 17:40 GMT
#955
On March 12 2011 02:38 Terrix wrote:
I heard the wave is going to hit California... I live in Germany right now but my family is near the coast, doubt it'd be big enough to do any damage there tho... am I wrong?


It won't be high. The max wave Hawaii was supposed to get was 6 feet. California's going to be even less.
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15723 Posts
March 11 2011 17:40 GMT
#956
On March 12 2011 02:38 Terrix wrote:
I heard the wave is going to hit California... I live in Germany right now but my family is near the coast, doubt it'd be big enough to do any damage there tho... am I wrong?


I have a friend in San Fransisco and he said that the waves in California are "surfable", so there is no reason to worry
WArped
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom4845 Posts
March 11 2011 17:40 GMT
#957
The pictures and coverage for the quake is incredible. Japan has the expertise and power to withstand as much damage as they can from the initial quake, it's the Tsunami that will deal the most damage which is seriously worrying.

I hope they can recover from this quickly and there are no following outbreaks of unfortunate events. My thoughts are with Japan.
hifriend
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
China7935 Posts
March 11 2011 17:41 GMT
#958
Anyone else confused at obama's speech? He seems mostly worried about oil prices..
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11552 Posts
March 11 2011 17:41 GMT
#959
Santa Barbara here

went out to watch the waves at 8:17 am (when it was supposed to arrive)

nothing was there, California is a ok :p
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
hmunkey
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom1973 Posts
March 11 2011 17:42 GMT
#960
On March 12 2011 02:17 R3m3mb3rM3 wrote:
oh shit
german news are reporting that the atomic power station are dangerously damaged

usa sent help already
and most of them are turned off

That doesn't mean they'l spontaneously explode. Once again, modern engineering and government codes will keep people safe.
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