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Thread is about the various issues surrounding Japan in the aftermath of the recent earthquake. Don't bring the shit side of the internet to the thread, and post with the realization that this thread is very important, and very real, to your fellow members.

Do not post speculative and unconfirmed news you saw on TV or anywhere else. Generally the more dramatic it sounds the less likely it's true.
sung_moon
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10110 Posts
March 11 2011 17:44 GMT
#961
japan

the pictures i'm seeing is like something from a huge million dollar disaster movie
Forever Young
billyX333
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States1360 Posts
March 11 2011 17:44 GMT
#962
On March 12 2011 02:41 hifriend wrote:
Anyone else confused at obama's speech? He seems mostly worried about oil prices..

well he already went over the disaster in japan and what he was going to do then went on to say "before i take questions i want to go over oil"
i think hes worried about the markets
Zocat
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2229 Posts
March 11 2011 17:44 GMT
#963
I'm hoping everything turns out well for all people who have friends/family there (and of course for everyone who is living there).

And I hope other countries see the difference in casualties and invest heavily in technology who keeps all humans save(r).
Broodwich
Profile Joined February 2009
United States393 Posts
March 11 2011 17:44 GMT
#964
On March 12 2011 02:42 hmunkey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2011 02:17 R3m3mb3rM3 wrote:
oh shit
german news are reporting that the atomic power station are dangerously damaged

usa sent help already
and most of them are turned off

That doesn't mean they'l spontaneously explode. Once again, modern engineering and government codes will keep people safe.


They came out later and said the cooling systems were back on at the most troublesome one. They have backup diesel generators to run the cooling systems, and the systems are designed to be fine without power for awhile. NYTimes made it sound like they were under control.
fanta[Rn]
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Japan2465 Posts
March 11 2011 17:45 GMT
#965
any news on the powerplant? I read somewhere that US Airforce already sent cooling to it, did that not help?
Marcus420
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada1923 Posts
March 11 2011 17:48 GMT
#966
On March 12 2011 02:45 fanta[Rn] wrote:
any news on the powerplant? I read somewhere that US Airforce already sent cooling to it, did that not help?

think its been explained in the past few posts. Sounds like they got in under control.
LoLAdriankat
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4307 Posts
March 11 2011 17:48 GMT
#967
On March 12 2011 02:03 unknown.sam wrote:
this is just really unfortunate

mother nature is becoming more and more destructive

Mother Nature has always been destructive. It's just more obvious due to how fast information travels nowadays.
Ownos
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2147 Posts
March 11 2011 17:48 GMT
#968
I was playing SC2 last night and this came on the TV. They showed the rushing waters from a helicopter it was crazy. I hope no one was hurt. Certainly they have good warning systems in place especially after the Indonesia tsunami?
...deeper and deeper into the bowels of El Diablo
omgclayaiken
Profile Joined March 2011
Russian Federation1 Post
March 11 2011 17:49 GMT
#969
--- Nuked ---
andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
March 11 2011 17:50 GMT
#970
On March 12 2011 02:12 Nich wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2011 02:10 KwarK wrote:
On March 12 2011 02:05 chobopeon wrote:
I hate to do this (not read through 50 pages and check) but I think this deserves repeating even if its already been posted:

The headline you won't be reading: "Millions saved in Japan by good engineering and government building codes." But it's the truth

I think everyone appreciates how incredible it is that a nation as urban as Japan can be hit by a quake this strong and take so little damage. It's a triumph of humanity over nature that we had the foresight to plan against an earthquake, a society that ensured that all buildings would be covered and the ingenuity to achieve it.


I have heard about it before and what exactly makes it this strong to be able to sustain the quake?



If you let buildings sway with the earthquake instead of trying to stand still, they are less likely to be damaged.
FliedLice
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany7494 Posts
March 11 2011 17:51 GMT
#971
On March 12 2011 02:48 Ownos wrote:
I was playing SC2 last night and this came on the TV. They showed the rushing waters from a helicopter it was crazy. I hope no one was hurt. Certainly they have good warning systems in place especially after the Indonesia tsunami?


I think even before that Japan had the best tsunami warning system, afterwards it probably got even better... But you can't do much more than warn the people, no way to stop this shit when it's coming.

But anyway, I'd say Japan is the first country you'd want to be in if you're hit by an earthquake and a tsunami of this scale :/
Kevmeister @ Dota2
Marcus420
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada1923 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-11 17:52:57
March 11 2011 17:52 GMT
#972
On March 12 2011 02:49 omgclayaiken wrote:
--- Nuked ---

GJ ninja mods :D His post was completely pathetic
Broodwich
Profile Joined February 2009
United States393 Posts
March 11 2011 17:53 GMT
#973
On March 12 2011 02:48 Ownos wrote:
I was playing SC2 last night and this came on the TV. They showed the rushing waters from a helicopter it was crazy. I hope no one was hurt. Certainly they have good warning systems in place especially after the Indonesia tsunami?


Japan has always been traditionally more prepared than its neighbors for these disasters due to its history of earthquakes and better economic situation.
Serejai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
6007 Posts
March 11 2011 17:53 GMT
#974
From the BBC feed,

1751: All Japanese ports have reportedly been closed. "It's a big mess. All discharge operations are suspended in the area," a Japanese ship broker told the Reuters news agency. Another broker said: "Most or all coal stocks will be washed out at many of the coal-fired power plants. Ports will be closed at least for a short time until damage assessments can take place."
I HAVE 5 TOAST POINTS
Jackos
Profile Joined March 2011
Chile59 Posts
March 11 2011 17:54 GMT
#975
Being from Chile and having experienced a slightly lesser earthquake in the past year, I can say that, from what I've seen, Japan has really held the earthquake extremely well. I mean here the communications with the affected areas (like 3-4 "regions") were completely severed from the moment of the earthquake until like 5 hours later, so when a helicopter arrived to the area to check the place, the tsunami had already devastated the unwarned people.
Best hopes to Japan from here.
PolSC2
Profile Joined December 2010
United States634 Posts
March 11 2011 17:54 GMT
#976
My prayers go out to the families in Japan. Good luck.
We learn nothing from history except that we learn nothing from history.
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15690 Posts
March 11 2011 17:55 GMT
#977
It's really sad as an oregon resident to realize that the earthquake we are expecting in the next 50 years is going to be just as strong, yet our building standards are considerably worse
Jackos
Profile Joined March 2011
Chile59 Posts
March 11 2011 17:57 GMT
#978
On March 12 2011 02:55 Mohdoo wrote:
It's really sad as an oregon resident to realize that the earthquake we are expecting in the next 50 years is going to be just as strong, yet our building standards are considerably worse

What's more sad is that we're also expecting yet ANOTHER earthquake here in the really next future (haven't had one there in more than 100 years) but in the northern regions, where the building standard is primitive to say the least...
Broodwich
Profile Joined February 2009
United States393 Posts
March 11 2011 18:00 GMT
#979
On March 12 2011 02:55 Mohdoo wrote:
It's really sad as an oregon resident to realize that the earthquake we are expecting in the next 50 years is going to be just as strong, yet our building standards are considerably worse


Eh, we're fairly prepared. At least where I grew up (near a fault line), our building codes are pretty solid and we did a bunch of earthquake drills in the schools when I was a kid. And if the earthquake's bad enough, there's only so much you can do. Had that earthquake been closer to Tokyo instead of up north, those buildings probably would not have fared as well.
Ownos
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2147 Posts
March 11 2011 18:04 GMT
#980
On March 12 2011 02:21 KwarK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2011 02:18 Nich wrote:
On March 12 2011 02:13 KwarK wrote:
On March 12 2011 02:12 Nich wrote:
On March 12 2011 02:10 KwarK wrote:
On March 12 2011 02:05 chobopeon wrote:
I hate to do this (not read through 50 pages and check) but I think this deserves repeating even if its already been posted:

The headline you won't be reading: "Millions saved in Japan by good engineering and government building codes." But it's the truth

I think everyone appreciates how incredible it is that a nation as urban as Japan can be hit by a quake this strong and take so little damage. It's a triumph of humanity over nature that we had the foresight to plan against an earthquake, a society that ensured that all buildings would be covered and the ingenuity to achieve it.


I have heard about it before and what exactly makes it this strong to be able to sustain the quake?


This.

Edit: While I know this is a tragedy for those involved watching that video just makes me think "humanity, fuck yeah". Truly incredible.



I'm not sure what is preventing it from collapsing but i assume it was wheels on the building that i heard when a senior was telling me about it?

The entire building is designed to bend so it can move with the quakes, absorbing the shock throughout the length of it where a more rigid building would break. But the fact that we can intentionally design a skyscraper to be flexible is staggering.


I learned about this in... physics? But to actually see it in action is wow... Never thought I'd see skyscrapers swaying like that.
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