EPT2009-2010 football (soccer) thread - Page 61
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white_box921
United Kingdom967 Posts
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Sadir
Vatican City State1176 Posts
if you try to measure a goalkeeper with this statistic ther might, maybe something wrong O_o edit: wiki says toni has 56 games - 38 goals that's 0.67 goals/game fucking shit...look at his stats since playing for palermo, now I am impressed http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luca_Toni not many players can come up with such statistics | ||
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zulu_nation8
China26351 Posts
http://forums.goal.com/goal/board/message?board.id=general_soccer_discussion_en&thread.id=184135 | ||
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white_box921
United Kingdom967 Posts
edit: shit you got me.... as with any statistic, it is rigid and it becomes hard to compare. one obviously flaw I can immediately think of now is this substitution thing. So maybe they should now put a goal per 90minute as an extra indication. | ||
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zulu_nation8
China26351 Posts
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white_box921
United Kingdom967 Posts
fuck, I swear I will stay in my little shelter this time. | ||
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Spinfusor
Australia410 Posts
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Holgerius
Sweden16951 Posts
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Telemako
Spain1636 Posts
On December 01 2009 05:24 kidd wrote: Speaking of the which C Ronaldo had a very unimpressive game in total in el clasico. I think he even knew it as he was subbed off with like 30 minutes to go in the game. The dutch doctor leading his treatment suggested that (no more than 60 minutes to protect his ankle) Ballon d'Or is a joke. Finishers are overrated and playmakers underrated | ||
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snarl
Canada812 Posts
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PhilGood2DaY
Germany7424 Posts
For sure Xavi and iniesta are always overlooked unfortuneately but... messi deserves it.. T_T | ||
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party
Germany76 Posts
On December 01 2009 21:43 MaGic~PhiL wrote: For sure Xavi and iniesta are always overlooked unfortuneately this has been stated so many times that it can not possibly be true anymore. also they got 3rd and 4th place. | ||
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ohoh~troubles
Korea (South)70 Posts
On December 01 2009 07:53 Sadir wrote: hm.....but if somebody has the game/goal ratio Toni has, you cannot deny that he is a fucking scoring beast.... if you try to measure a goalkeeper with this statistic ther might, maybe something wrong O_o edit: wiki says toni has 56 games - 38 goals that's 0.67 goals/game fucking shit...look at his stats since playing for palermo, now I am impressed http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luca_Toni not many players can come up with such statistics Look at Mario Jardel in Sporting CP or Porto or Galatasaray ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mario_Jardel#Porto ) in Porto: 169 Appearences, 166 Goals :O in Sporting CP: 62 Appearences, 67 Goals :O in Galatasaray: 43 Apps, 34 Goals :O then drugs killed his carreer  | ||
Liquid`Drone
Norway28675 Posts
not the greatest leagues though ;p | ||
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BloodDrunK
Bangladesh2767 Posts
you play in a league that matches your skill level.if you're better you move to a better league.but if you're bad then you're sold to a lower level league.simple. | ||
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Holgerius
Sweden16951 Posts
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Telemako
Spain1636 Posts
On December 01 2009 21:41 snarl wrote: by your tone i'm guessing you think iniesta/xavi should have won instead? On December 01 2009 21:43 MaGic~PhiL wrote: a joke ? I doubt.. For sure Xavi and iniesta are always overlooked unfortuneately but... messi deserves it.. T_T On December 01 2009 22:48 party wrote: this has been stated so many times that it can not possibly be true anymore. also they got 3rd and 4th place. Well, it's easy math. We have a 2008-2009 Club dominator FC Barcelona, and a National Team dominator Spain. Let's find the intersection of both and we'll get the key. Xavi is the playmaker of both, with a 95% pass ratio, big assist figures and some key goals in CL and Euro and on the other hand we have Messi, a dribbler scorer that BY CHANCE only shines when Xavi is on his side of the field. Xavi assisted Torres for the 1-0 vs Germany. Xavi assisted Messi for the 2-0 vs ManU (Iniesta assisted Eto'o for the 1-0 and scored the 1-1 at London). What's Messi relevance in this key moments? Does Messi shine without Xavi at Argentina's NT? Being biased was never so easy | ||
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Holgerius
Sweden16951 Posts
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uberMatt
Canada659 Posts
On December 02 2009 00:58 Telemako wrote: Well, it's easy math. We have a 2008-2009 Club dominator FC Barcelona, and a National Team dominator Spain. Let's find the intersection of both and we'll get the key. Xavi is the playmaker of both, with a 95% pass ratio, big assist figures and some key goals in CL and Euro and on the other hand we have Messi, a dribbler scorer that BY CHANCE only shines when Xavi is on his side of the field. Xavi assisted Torres for the 1-0 vs Germany. Xavi assisted Messi for the 2-0 vs ManU (Iniesta assisted Eto'o for the 1-0 and scored the 1-1 at London). What's Messi relevance in this key moments? Does Messi shine without Xavi at Argentina's NT? Being biased was never so easy hes saying that everyone calls them underrated all the time so they cant possibly be underrated anymore, no need for the pretentious paragraph | ||
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fabiano
Brazil4644 Posts
On December 01 2009 23:07 ohoh~troubles wrote: Look at Mario Jardel in Sporting CP or Porto or Galatasaray ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mario_Jardel#Porto ) in Porto: 169 Appearences, 166 Goals :O in Sporting CP: 62 Appearences, 67 Goals :O in Galatasaray: 43 Apps, 34 Goals :O then drugs killed his carreer Jardel was fucking great. His best times were when he was in Gremio imo (because thats my team :p, ok Porto was his best times... :/). I looked on wikipedia for his stats and found out it was not updated and english version differs from the portuguese one. Anyway, i believe this stats are right: Gremio 73 appearances, 67 goals. Just to say, when he played together with Paulo Nunes they were killers, thanks to them Gremio won the Copa Libertadores in 1995. | ||
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