EVE Corporation - Page 149

On October 01 2010 13:39 s_side wrote:
Yeah, SCBW has become more trollish of late, for sure. I'm not surprised if all you're seeing in there is me getting accused of being a ~spaceshipselitist~ and Liquid members and ex-liquid members bickering and picking fights. Don't let that put you off. Eve is an incredibly deep, complex and rewarding game. Unfortunately, the complexity also creates a significant barrier to entry and makes getting into the game frustrating at times.

Don't be discouraged, though. I'd be happy to talk to you about good ways to get started and get your feet wet. I'm EST and usually on for a good chunk of the night. Shoot me (GordonAlexander) a convo in game. I used to be a Liquid director, and although i've moved on I still keep up with team liquid folks wherever they may be in Eve. Kwark_uk and JP Bear are also good guys to talk to and are directors in The Hatchery.

Fly safe.

On October 01 2010 14:15 pahndah wrote:


Don't talk to Kwark, he bites hard. Makes me cry on the inside T_T.

Yeah, SCBW has become more trollish of late, for sure. I'm not surprised if all you're seeing in there is me getting accused of being a ~spaceshipselitist~ and Liquid members and ex-liquid members bickering and picking fights. Don't let that put you off. Eve is an incredibly deep, complex and rewarding game. Unfortunately, the complexity also creates a significant barrier to entry and makes getting into the game frustrating at times.

Don't be discouraged, though. I'd be happy to talk to you about good ways to get started and get your feet wet. I'm EST and usually on for a good chunk of the night. Shoot me (GordonAlexander) a convo in game. I used to be a Liquid director, and although i've moved on I still keep up with team liquid folks wherever they may be in Eve. Kwark_uk and JP Bear are also good guys to talk to and are directors in The Hatchery.

Fly safe.

This isn't some 2 week old game where noone knows what the fuck's going on. It's a 7 year old MMORPG the developers of which made a concoius decision to make the game more newb friendly(i'm scared what it would be like if we played eve in the era when you had to learn everything by trial and error).

On October 01 2010 21:00 Happy.fairytail wrote:
heyo! I just downloaded and installed the game, looking forward to playing this game that I've heard so much about from several different sources. I'm really excited 'cuz I love team-based strategy play (I could play UT CTF and DotA forever) -- and I tend to favor being the flexible support offense.

Looking forward to meeting y'all, and hopefully I won't get crazy addicted too fast :D My handle will likely be something like HappyFT

On October 01 2010 18:21 bN` wrote:
Now don't take this the wrong way, I'm a firm supporter of the mentor/apprentice bond that once existed between liquid memebers much more informally than it does now between hatchery members but I can't help but think that the whole thing has become much too much like taking a kindergartner to school on his first day. There's some great eve knowledge among tl eve players and you should by all means use it, but please try to keep everyone sanity in check by doing research first and then asking deeper questions like what's the difference between a tracking disruptor rifter and a standard web rifter and not questions like "hai guyz i fitskied some cap batteries on my rifter is that okz?"

On October 02 2010 02:54 KwarK wrote:

Have you ever seen me speak to one of the guys I mentor? If they can solve the problem themself and ask me for help I rip the shit out of them.

On October 01 2010 18:21 bN` wrote:


Yeah, too many people in the chat tbh especially dicks like that Yulwei guy. What really sucks with scbw is the fact that revo has channel op(not sure?) and noone else does. Not to mentiont he gian theap of carebears : P

And to all the people whining about how helpful scbw once used to be, this may may come as a shock but explaining the same shit to different people everysinglefuckingtime got boring fo rme a long time ago. Why not read this thread for example there's everything from basics of pvp to goddamn salvaging guides in here and for fuck sake this isn't wow and you should put some time into reading evelopedia so you get some info before you even start the game.

The hatchery and previously Liquid inc. were never meant as corps where you make an account logon and then get spoonfed everysingle detail from manual ship pilot to what the heat damage attribute on guns means(and no it's no the damage the guns deal). They were corps that get you started finacially and point you in the right drection. For christ's sake the game is a sandbox just do whatever you like but please for the love of god read about it before you do. There's a fuckton of info already out there about pretty much everything.

Interested in skill training? There's a whole forum on eve's site dedicated to it, there's a thing called eve mon that has a skill browser. Interested in pvp? Go under My eve forum and lookup some pvp videos. If there's a thing in eve that interests you, there's probably a guide for it somewhere too.

Now don't take this the wrong way, I'm a firm supporter of the mentor/apprentice bond that once existed between liquid memebers much more informally than it does now between hatchery members but I can't help but think that the whole thing has become much too much like taking a kindergartner to school on his first day. There's some great eve knowledge among tl eve players and you should by all means use it, but please try to keep everyone sanity in check by doing research first and then asking deeper questions like what's the difference between a tracking disruptor rifter and a standard web rifter and not questions like "hai guyz i fitskied some cap batteries on my rifter is that okz?"

This isn't some 2 week old game where noone knows what the fuck's going on. It's a 7 year old MMORPG the developers of which made a concoius decision to make the game more newb friendly(i'm scared what it would be like if we played eve in the era when you had to learn everything by trial and error).

/end{bitterrant}

On October 02 2010 02:54 KwarK wrote:

Have you ever seen me speak to one of the guys I mentor? If they can solve the problem themself and ask me for help I rip the shit out of them.

On October 02 2010 11:55 s_side wrote:


Pretty much.

~Cosigning~ this rant.Well said.