• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 03:51
CEST 09:51
KST 16:51
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Rough Waters9[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Siren's Call8[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Summer's End9Serral wins HomeStory Cup 2915Serral wins Maestros of the Game 244
Community News
Weekly Cups (Aug 30-Sep 7): herO thrives amid growing schism7Official StarCraft website teases new content ahead of BlizzCon?121Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20)9Weekly Cups (August 24-30): Patches' balance mod takes over3New 3v3 BGH Ladder (and more) on ShieldBattery!46
StarCraft 2
General
https://www.facebook.com/Lungora.Official.Page Weekly Cups (Aug 30-Sep 7): herO thrives amid growing schism SC4ALL: II Winner Will Earn a Spot at HSC 30! SC4ALL II: StarCraft 2 Player Announcement 7/8 Nexon wins bid to develop StarCraft IP content, distribute Overwatch mobile game
Tourneys
Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond) 2026 GSTL Announcement Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20) IntoTheTV X SOOP SC2 League : Weekly & Monthly
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
Nexus Wars 2021 GUIDE [M] (2) Industrial Park
External Content
Mutation # 542 The Ascended Mutation # 541 Binary Choice The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 540 Dodge This
Brood War
General
Terran or Protoss BW General Discussion Official StarCraft website teases new content ahead of BlizzCon? [ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Rough Waters ASL22 General Discussion
Tourneys
[ASL22] Ro16 Group A BWCL Season 65 Announcement [ASL22] Ro16 Group B [Megathread] Daily Proleagues
Strategy
Replay Review Process - What do you do? Simple Questions, Simple Answers Odyssey Mineral Stack Saturation Game Theory for Starcraft
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread EVE Corporation Diablo IV [Maplestory Hardcore] Let's Play~!! General RTS Discussion Thread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish TSM pausing esports and CLG Dead
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Power Rank TL Mafia Community Thread NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Trading/Investing Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine
Fan Clubs
MarineLorD Fan Club The Creator Fan Club The ShoWTimE Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Northern Ireland Global Starcraft
Blogs
Is Buying an MLBB Veri…
regacyesports
F* the Children and Get Off …
TrAiDoS
Dreaming of BW patches (mod…
c3rberUs
LOCKPICKING NOOB
LUCKY_NOOB
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 6078 users

EVE Corporation - Page 1353

Forum Index > General Games
Post a Reply
Prev 1 1351 1352 1353 1354 1355 2022 Next
https://discord.gg/c8jHgQpMSY

mity hat tree discord if you care
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44283 Posts
December 11 2012 17:12 GMT
#27041
Still getting interest on those adrestias, even though I sold them all and the price hit 60b by the end. I think I missed out on some easy isk there but still, 60b is "holy shit" levels of high for an adrestia.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Body_Shield
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada3373 Posts
December 11 2012 21:08 GMT
#27042
http://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/14o3fz/what_is_this_new_tracking_checkbox_under_dscan/

well....
So, five-card stud, nothing wild... and the sky's the limit
Omigawa
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1556 Posts
December 12 2012 06:34 GMT
#27043
On December 11 2012 15:37 unsniped wrote:
So, Orious, myself, and a few others have set up the new, active, branch of Hatchery, Shield Battery. This is setup to help get new players involded and hopefully interested in eve through tl. WHOOOOOO. So yeah, gonna be active. Curse ye naysayers!


Sign me up. My account lapsed but I'm gonna resub soon, definitely want to get back in on hatchery roams. I'm Ellipsia in hatchery
Big Monkey
Profile Joined March 2012
United Kingdom473 Posts
December 12 2012 06:48 GMT
#27044
Is anyone else having trouble with the game since the patch? Last night i went on a little jaunt in my rupture, sandwiches packed music on and a little Talwar wanted to play., i thought it might be a trap but as only a rupture i didnt care, easily killed the Talwar as his friends jumped in, then my pc kept freezing with the screen going black, all i can se at this point is the pvp overlay with thensistance rings, no ships no nothing just a frozen screen. This also happened to me sunday before the glorious cruisernroam where i lost a talos to the same thing. I have a nvidia video card. Any suggestions?
I smell revival, dead bones coming alive again
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18866 Posts
December 12 2012 06:51 GMT
#27045
Ok guys, so I stumbled upon Eve Online a bit ago and have been reading up on it, and I think I want to give it a go. I logged in for the first time, and after I created a character I really had no idea where to go. Any advice or general tips would be appreciated lol.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25562 Posts
December 12 2012 07:04 GMT
#27046
On December 12 2012 15:51 farvacola wrote:
Ok guys, so I stumbled upon Eve Online a bit ago and have been reading up on it, and I think I want to give it a go. I logged in for the first time, and after I created a character I really had no idea where to go. Any advice or general tips would be appreciated lol.


get on TL teamspeak and come to spawning pool!
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
Shootemup.
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1044 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-12 09:47:50
December 12 2012 09:24 GMT
#27047
Aeth is so mad, I decide that I am going to warp to station to see if I can blap a Kestrel that I have on 5 degree dscan and he tells me that he is going to go solo and kicks myself and Leah from fleet.

EDIT:
After kicking us from fleet, Aeth scrams an Arty Tornado that has two stabs. Get owned.
"Dirty Timber Picker" Mity Teem Larquad. "I am a baddie and tango is a smartiepants." -KwarK "When you said you didn't play Invoker I thought you were just being modest"
Reborn8u
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States1761 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-12 09:36:32
December 12 2012 09:36 GMT
#27048
On December 12 2012 18:24 Shootemup. wrote:
Aeth is so mad, I decide that I am going to warp to station to see if I can blap a Kestrel that I have on 5 degree dscan and he tells me that he is going to go solo and kicks me from fleet.

EDIT:
After kicking us from fleet, Aeth scrams an Arty Tornado that has two stabs. Get owned.


He can't possibly be as mad as VoV was after Fweddit and myself ducked that fight. I was actually talking with the fweddit guys about the whole thing after I got off TL coms. Their response "You should ask those guys to join up with us, we could sure use the help and this is a great place for any new bros. We give them as many thrashers as they can bear to lose"

BTW, VoV I know deep down your a sweet barrel of love and fondness, I want to hug you.
:)
Sylvex
Profile Joined January 2009
United States127 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-12 09:54:40
December 12 2012 09:53 GMT
#27049
On December 12 2012 18:24 Shootemup. wrote:
Aeth is so mad, I decide that I am going to warp to station to see if I can blap a Kestrel that I have on 5 degree dscan and he tells me that he is going to go solo and kicks myself and Leah from fleet.

EDIT:
After kicking us from fleet, Aeth scrams an Arty Tornado that has two stabs. Get owned.


In other news he loses us an orca kill because he has to solo bait it into decloaking while me and tango sit on the other side of the gate after being scouted. After a bit it decloaks and cloak-trick warps away since aeth was too busy chasing a cloaked rapier to set up probes that he already had out on the gate.

Also Tango got outplayed when the kestrel warped to the bubbled gate we were sitting on as he warped off to station so I got to blap it.

http://kb.eveaquila.com/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=30574

Clearly I am the best pvper since I got the most kills.
JJoNeEightY
Profile Joined December 2010
United States509 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-12 10:43:51
December 12 2012 10:37 GMT
#27050
Okay so look:

When I go out on a roam or take a fleet out, my primary objective is to get into the best fight possible. This often requires a lot of patience, and a lot of having people sitting out of sight of the enemy, and oftentimes, even after all the waiting, there won't be much of a payoff. That's just the way the game is. A lot of the time it is pretty slow, sure, but that special fight, that engagement you get one in every one hundred is worth it. If you just jump in your whole fleet the second some random guy in a stabber gets up the courage to come and attack your one guy in a battlecruiser who is trying to get the fight started, nothing good will ever come of it. That isn't fun for anyone.

The two of you are massively impatient. You want to jump in and whore on the stabber every single time. That isn't how I do things, and if you are flying in fleet with me in the future, it isn't how you are going to do things either. There seems to be a bit of miscommunication here, possibly due to the fact that I am more laid back than someone like a Kwark, so perhaps you misunderstand me, but when I say "Don't warp to the station," I mean don't warp to the fucking station. That is it. If you don't like the way that I do things, don't fly with me. This repeatedly coming along on fleets and then spending the whole time whining and complaining about how you aren't getting any kills and how it is my fault and how I should go out of my way to make everything better for you, at the expense of us actually getting into any interesting engagements, is finished. Either change your attitude or go elsewhere.
Sylvex
Profile Joined January 2009
United States127 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-12 13:08:20
December 12 2012 10:48 GMT
#27051
On December 12 2012 19:37 JJoNeEightY wrote:
Okay so look:

When I go out on a roam or take a fleet out, my primary objective is to get into the best fight possible. This often requires a lot of patience, and a lot of having people sitting out of sight of the enemy, and oftentimes, even after all the waiting, there won't be much of a payoff. That's just the way the game is. A lot of the time it is pretty slow, sure, but that special fight, that engagement you get one in every one hundred is worth it. If you just jump in your whole fleet the second some random guy in a stabber gets up the courage to come and attack your one guy in a battlecruiser who is trying to get the fight started, nothing good will ever come of it. That isn't fun for anyone.

The two of you are massively impatient. You want to jump in and whore on the stabber every single time. That isn't how I do things, and if you are flying in fleet with me in the future, it isn't how you are going to do things either. There seems to be a bit of miscommunication here, possibly due to the fact that I am more laid back than someone like a Kwark, so perhaps you misunderstand me, but when I say "Don't warp to the station," I mean don't warp to the fucking station. That is it. If you don't like the way that I do things, don't fly with me. This repeatedly coming along on fleets and then spending the whole time whining and complaining about how you aren't getting any kills and how it is my fault and how I should go out of my way to make everything better for you, at the expense of us actually getting into any interesting engagements, is finished. Either change your attitude or go elsewhere.


Yea when I follow you around for over an hour doing absolutely nothing and you give away free orca kills that's me being impatient alright.

You treat our "fleets" as your own solo work with backup one jump away. If you want to just be soloing and have back up I'll wait at home til you find something you think is worth engaging with more than 1 person. Most of the time you have us waiting we aren't hidden, they have eyes and we know they have eyes, there's no real reason to be waiting 1 jump away while you play station games alone. I don't mind trying to surprise people and bait, I mind that even when the jig is up you tell people to hang back anyway and then lose us kills or just actively prevent us from doing anything but alt-tabbing by keeping us out for no reason.

That orca was a free kill, all we had to do was jump all of us in, we had been scouted already very clearly by the rapier, but instead you decided to try to solo the rapier and warped off our method of catching the orca, and then got neither of them. With all 3 of us there 1-2 can fight the rapier/force it off while at least 1 goes to where the orca was. At that point its fucked, it can try to emergency de-cloak and warp, in which case you have probes on it, or it can try to stay cloaked while 3 ships burn around it and they form up a fleet or something.

Then 3 jumps later after an hour of roaming you fail to catch anything in a system, admittedly not because you're bad this time and just because they POS up quickly. It's late, I'm bored, there's a lone kestrel that's had dscan on us for the last 10-15 min. God for-fucking-bid I want to go try and blap it in this dead system that we haven't been able to catch anything in when there are like 4 local. If you really want to bait and tango is already going to the station let him bait and you stay 1 system out where you already are. Not the end of the world. Also to be clear by the time you even said don't warp to station tango was already gone and I ctrl-space'd as soon as possible, even if I didn't agree with it.

Also holy fucking shit we don't spend the entire time complaining. We don't even blame you for lack of fights/kills you're missing the point entirely. If the people aren't there to fight they aren't there that's not anyone's fault. The point didn't even come up til the very end of the roam when we were missing kills because you decide to let shit go because its not a "perfect fight." I spent 45 min of that roam(and much longer on others) patiently waiting for shit to happen. Then you get all upset when we move to engage the only fucking thing we've seen the entire time which happened to be nothing but a kestrel (besides the shit that got away because our scouted fleet needed to stay away from a trapped orca so it could leave) and rage kick us from fleet. We were not blaming you for lack of people to fight/kills to get nor have we ever done this.
Ramiel
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States1220 Posts
December 12 2012 14:44 GMT
#27052
I love it when bad pvp pilots trash talk some of the TL old guard. I have been getting a ton of it (some of it may be deserved) but it certainly shouldn't be coming from new guys. I have been flying with aeth for some time. While we may not agree on everything the fact of the matter is Aeth is one of the best i have had the chance to fly with. I respect him, and you should too. If you dont, you either are too blinded by your own aura of self importance, or you miss the fact that your pvp experience and legacy is shit when compared.

On that note: if you cant understand or are un willing to learn what tactics are being used in fleet, leave or lose the attitude.
A thread vaguely bashing SC2? SWARM ON, LOW POST COUNT BRETHREN! DEFEND THE GLORIOUS GAME THAT IS OUR LIVELIHOOD
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44283 Posts
December 12 2012 15:25 GMT
#27053
I think the issue here was not about Aeth's competence but his priorities when FCing. I always kept the fleet moving and looking for that big fight rather than huntiong things that caught my interest and many people will be used to fleets ignoring isolated targets or lone bears where a soloer a would wait. But I wasn't there, just clarifying that nobody is calling Aeth bad, I don't know how accurate the complaints are.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44283 Posts
December 12 2012 15:26 GMT
#27054
Happy Birthday btw Chessur.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Ramiel
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States1220 Posts
December 12 2012 15:31 GMT
#27055
Thx m8, i trust you are doing well?
A thread vaguely bashing SC2? SWARM ON, LOW POST COUNT BRETHREN! DEFEND THE GLORIOUS GAME THAT IS OUR LIVELIHOOD
kollin
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom8380 Posts
December 12 2012 15:59 GMT
#27056
Happy birthday Chessur!
Mandini
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1717 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-12 16:02:53
December 12 2012 16:02 GMT
#27057
On December 12 2012 19:48 Sylvex wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2012 19:37 JJoNeEightY wrote:
Okay so look:

When I go out on a roam or take a fleet out, my primary objective is to get into the best fight possible. This often requires a lot of patience, and a lot of having people sitting out of sight of the enemy, and oftentimes, even after all the waiting, there won't be much of a payoff. That's just the way the game is. A lot of the time it is pretty slow, sure, but that special fight, that engagement you get one in every one hundred is worth it. If you just jump in your whole fleet the second some random guy in a stabber gets up the courage to come and attack your one guy in a battlecruiser who is trying to get the fight started, nothing good will ever come of it. That isn't fun for anyone.

The two of you are massively impatient. You want to jump in and whore on the stabber every single time. That isn't how I do things, and if you are flying in fleet with me in the future, it isn't how you are going to do things either. There seems to be a bit of miscommunication here, possibly due to the fact that I am more laid back than someone like a Kwark, so perhaps you misunderstand me, but when I say "Don't warp to the station," I mean don't warp to the fucking station. That is it. If you don't like the way that I do things, don't fly with me. This repeatedly coming along on fleets and then spending the whole time whining and complaining about how you aren't getting any kills and how it is my fault and how I should go out of my way to make everything better for you, at the expense of us actually getting into any interesting engagements, is finished. Either change your attitude or go elsewhere.

You treat our "fleets" as your own solo work with backup one jump away.

I never actually thought about it this way, but its pretty spot on for aeth fleets. However its something you should know already, and if you don't like it, dont roam with him. Eventually he will either only solo or change priorities while leading a fleet.

Also chessur just because someone is an old guard doesn't mean he is free from criticism. If anything its the other way around. I'm more likely to call someone who's been around for a while bad because they should know better.
Ramiel
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States1220 Posts
December 12 2012 16:14 GMT
#27058
On December 13 2012 01:02 Mandini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2012 19:48 Sylvex wrote:
On December 12 2012 19:37 JJoNeEightY wrote:
Okay so look:

When I go out on a roam or take a fleet out, my primary objective is to get into the best fight possible. This often requires a lot of patience, and a lot of having people sitting out of sight of the enemy, and oftentimes, even after all the waiting, there won't be much of a payoff. That's just the way the game is. A lot of the time it is pretty slow, sure, but that special fight, that engagement you get one in every one hundred is worth it. If you just jump in your whole fleet the second some random guy in a stabber gets up the courage to come and attack your one guy in a battlecruiser who is trying to get the fight started, nothing good will ever come of it. That isn't fun for anyone.

The two of you are massively impatient. You want to jump in and whore on the stabber every single time. That isn't how I do things, and if you are flying in fleet with me in the future, it isn't how you are going to do things either. There seems to be a bit of miscommunication here, possibly due to the fact that I am more laid back than someone like a Kwark, so perhaps you misunderstand me, but when I say "Don't warp to the station," I mean don't warp to the fucking station. That is it. If you don't like the way that I do things, don't fly with me. This repeatedly coming along on fleets and then spending the whole time whining and complaining about how you aren't getting any kills and how it is my fault and how I should go out of my way to make everything better for you, at the expense of us actually getting into any interesting engagements, is finished. Either change your attitude or go elsewhere.

You treat our "fleets" as your own solo work with backup one jump away.

I never actually thought about it this way, but its pretty spot on for aeth fleets. However its something you should know already, and if you don't like it, dont roam with him. Eventually he will either only solo or change priorities while leading a fleet.

Also chessur just because someone is an old guard doesn't mean he is free from criticism. If anything its the other way around. I'm more likely to call someone who's been around for a while bad because they should know better.


Point taken. I just feel that there is a right time and a right way to voice grievances. I feel this is being handled improperly.
A thread vaguely bashing SC2? SWARM ON, LOW POST COUNT BRETHREN! DEFEND THE GLORIOUS GAME THAT IS OUR LIVELIHOOD
unsniped
Profile Joined November 2009
United States241 Posts
December 12 2012 16:15 GMT
#27059
Happy bday Chessy! And Harreeb, fuck that. Farvacola, apply to the corp that appears by autolinking corp after typing tlnet.
s0Li
Profile Joined September 2010
United States406 Posts
December 12 2012 16:36 GMT
#27060
Holy dick fuck... I'm not there for one roam to provide comedic relief and you guys start crying.

Sylvex and tango: follow fc orders - cant tell you how many times Kwark warp'd me to a gate at zero to my death, but you do it because the fc told you to.

Aeth: Lighten up, when leading a roam treat the fleet like a 6yr old child. You have to reward good behavior. You were on a roam for 45mins with no action and your fleet(6 yr old child) has been acting well reward them with a kestrel blob km. that way when you tell to fleet to hold next time to get that amazing fight they do it because they know you will reward them with the km's

On another note I just saves 15% by switching to geico
I don't wanna hear excuses, I wanna hear solutions...
Prev 1 1351 1352 1353 1354 1355 2022 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 2h 9m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft: Brood War
Shuttle 1263
GuemChi 447
BeSt 356
Shine 192
Soma 147
Horang2 80
Killer 50
Aegong 37
Dewaltoss 26
ZergMaN 22
[ Show more ]
Bale 19
Dota 2
ODPixel106
League of Legends
JimRising 493
Counter-Strike
shoxiejesuss399
olofmeister5
edward4
Other Games
ceh9472
Happy226
Trikslyr17
[ Show 11 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• iopq 1
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• lizZardDota2160
League of Legends
• Rush1308
Upcoming Events
The PondCast
2h 9m
KCM Race Survival
2h 9m
OSC
14h 39m
Escore
1d 2h
IntoTheTV X SOOP
1d 3h
CranKy Ducklings
2 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
3 days
Shopify Rebellion Sundays
3 days
Spirit vs Mixu
Clem vs TBD
RSL Revival
3 days
Serral vs Rogue
BlizzCon
3 days
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
3 days
Afreeca Starleague
4 days
WardiTV Weekly
4 days
Afreeca Starleague
5 days
GSL
5 days
PiGosaur Cup
5 days
The PondCast
6 days
Kung Fu Cup
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-09-08
PiG Sty Festival 8.0
Big Dog Cup 2026 Div 1

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3
K-JUNGMAN
ASL Season 22
Super Anchor Qualifying S3
CSL 2026 AUTUMN (S22)
Acropolis #5
Acropolis #5 - TRS
RSL Revival: Season 6
Calamity Invitational
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S3: King of Kings
Acropolis #5 - GSA
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Acropolis #5 - GSB
Acropolis #5 - GSC
SC4ALL II: Brood War
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.