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Strivers
United States358 Posts
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Fruscainte
4596 Posts
On December 21 2011 09:21 Strivers wrote: been deciding whether to pull the trigger on this game.......1-10 what do you guys rate it? it will be my first mmo..don't want it to take over my life ha For those whom like the "WoW formula" of things and are willing to have some patience, it could easily be a 7.5-8/10. Which is basically above average / pretty decent game. For those looking for something else, you will not get anything really new other than the dialogue options. So that's how you should slice it. Do you want what is safe and proven to work? Then you'll enjoy this game most likely. Especially if you love star wars. I feel like it's more of a CORPG (co-op RPG) rather than an MMO (massively multiplayer online RPG). It's a very linear game with a lot of story aspects, a lot can be solo'd easily and even encouraged -- however, many opportunities arise to interact and do shit with people. However, it just doesn't really feel...massive to me. Especially with the small party sizes and whatnot. Now do NOT mistake that for criticism or bashing. I love small party sizes, quite a lot personally if they are done well. I'm just stating more of what it is, as to not cause a misconception. It's an MMO in the same sense that Guild Wars 1 was an MMO, for those whom played that game, in my opinion. Which is just fine and dandy, plenty of people loved that game -- 8 million people to be in fact. (I think GW1 rather meh-tier as well, but I recognize how many could enjoy it and am merely using it as comparison) So it all depends on perspective, I suppose. It seems to be rather black and white for people loving it or hating it. | ||
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Mattchew
United States5684 Posts
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Ighox
Norway580 Posts
On December 21 2011 09:36 Mattchew wrote: anyone have any good tree builds for a dps merc bounty hunter? Just go Arsenal and get Tracer Missile, after that it doesn't really matter. | ||
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Danglars
United States12133 Posts
On the downside, very little explanation on tradeskills and where vendors are found. It took a while to get down the open map, sort, mouse over EVERYBODY, and see if your planet had what you needed. Minor gripe, most of it was intuitive. For healers, raid frames are very bugged, and frequently do not show any health loss to necessitate a heal. And PvP dots interrupt out-of-combat casting and objective capture, which is annoying. The stuns vs DR seems tilted towards the stuns. Needs a little tweaking. Really enjoying group pvp / guild pvp. Always into that aspect of the game. You can take 3-4 competent people into a battleground and overwhelm even a team stacked against you with smart play. That's why it's an 8. You don't feel limited by the class you happened to pick, you feel empowered to use your abilities to force the win. | ||
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Executor1
1353 Posts
On December 21 2011 09:23 Fruscainte wrote: For those whom like the "WoW formula" of things and are willing to have some patience, it could easily be a 7.5-8/10. Which is basically above average / pretty decent game. For those looking for something else, you will not get anything really new other than the dialogue options. So that's how you should slice it. Do you want what is safe and proven to work? Then you'll enjoy this game most likely. Especially if you love star wars. I feel like it's more of a CORPG (co-op RPG) rather than an MMO (massively multiplayer online RPG). It's a very linear game with a lot of story aspects, a lot can be solo'd easily and even encouraged -- however, many opportunities arise to interact and do shit with people. However, it just doesn't really feel...massive to me. Especially with the small party sizes and whatnot. Now do NOT mistake that for criticism or bashing. I love small party sizes, quite a lot personally if they are done well. I'm just stating more of what it is, as to not cause a misconception. It's an MMO in the same sense that Guild Wars 1 was an MMO, for those whom played that game, in my opinion. Which is just fine and dandy, plenty of people loved that game -- 8 million people to be in fact. (I think GW1 rather meh-tier as well, but I recognize how many could enjoy it and am merely using it as comparison) So it all depends on perspective, I suppose. It seems to be rather black and white for people loving it or hating it. It really isnt an mmo in the same sense of guild wars 1 though, guild wars 1 was instanced, the max amount of ppl you could have in a town was 64 people. you couldnt run into other people while you are running around doing quests. I see what your saying in the sense that alot of the story elements are instanced but they are meant to be solo'd and it would be annoying to have to wait for something to spawn to continue your narrative or your storyline. Its an mmo in every sense of the word you see people everywhere, their just isnt a place where alot of people gather right now, that will change in the future though. | ||
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Fruscainte
4596 Posts
On December 21 2011 09:49 Executor1 wrote: It really isnt an mmo in the same sense of guild wars 1 though, guild wars 1 was instanced TOR is very phased / instanced as well. Not to the same extent, correct, but you need to look at the principality of what I"m saying. TOR and GW1 are both CORPG's in the same sense that Call of Duty and Quake are both FPS's. They're two sides of the same coin. Yes, they are VERY different -- of course. I personally even think TOR is better than GW1 in pretty much every way, honestly. However, I find many aspects between the two to be there. Yes, it's more "massive" than GW1's version of CORPG, I give you that. But I hope you can see the general point I'm trying to make here. And I wont to reinforce that it isn't necessarily criticism, either. Hell, some could take that as praise depending on their preference and past experience. I mean, both -were/are- just called "MMO's" since they had millions of players in them and tens of thousands on every server. However, in the sense of how the game is set up PvP/PvE/questing/etc. wise, it seems in the most specific sense more CORPG than MMORPG. Nonetheless, the main idea I was making initially was that not to expect dozens or hundreds of players in large scale battles or anything. It's far more small scale, group and dare I say, tactical thinking shit moreso than anything else. So it really comes down to personal preference, again. | ||
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Neurosis
United States893 Posts
Pretty much if you like Bioware games or if you like WoW then you should feel right at home with ToR. There are some other minor problems such as ridiculous server queues and some severe class population imbalances (you literally only see lightsaber classes) but this stuff will probably get sorted out over time. | ||
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Fruscainte
4596 Posts
On December 21 2011 09:55 Neurosis wrote: 8.5/10. I would have rated it higher but around level 30 the content starts to spread thin a bit. They give you less quests but to make up for that they make them far more time consuming and tedious (it's almost humorous at how much running around they force you to do at these levels). This is really irritating and I hope it doesn't continue on like this all the way until level 50. Pretty much if you like Bioware games or if you like WoW then you should feel right at home with ToR. There are some other minor problems such as ridiculous server queues and some severe class population imbalances (you literally only see lightsaber classes) but this stuff will probably get sorted out over time. Everyone and their mother is making Jedi classes for a reason, it'll even out soon enough  | ||
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LaNague
Germany9118 Posts
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Fruscainte
4596 Posts
On December 21 2011 10:00 LaNague wrote: just because you used early acces and leveled faster than most people doesnt mean the game doesnt feel like an mmo Wha...? I'm saying the game feels like a CORPG, a subsect of MMORPG's of MMO's that favor smaller scale things compared to significant and large scale things. Things that favor a lot of solo content and personal story building. It's like the difference between "modern realistic shooters" and "arcade quake-esque" shooters. They're both shooters, both are amazing in their own right, but both share integral differences. Not only that, I am confused why that sentence is relevant at all to what I said (both the patronizing statement and the latter part) or more importantly how what I said could have brought out such a hostile response considering it's not even negative. I genuinely must ask if you have a problem with people talking about the game other than outright utter praise, because I'm not even criticizing or insulting the game. I'm literally just saying "It feels more CORPG than anything", which should be a praise if anything considering the flag runner of the CORPG market has 8 million players. I know it might sound quirky and a bit of an oxymoron, but there are two types of MMORPG's -- MMO's and CO's. Both take an effort to have millions of subscribers and a MASSIVE playerbase, which this one definitely does. However, CO's focus more on small scale things as I said multiple times and story based stuff. MMO's focus more on huge ass raids, giant word bosses that require dozens, if not hundreds of people, and so forth. There is nothing wrong with either side. I'm simply stating my opinion of which the two I enjoy. Now I'm rambling  | ||
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XXXSmOke
United States1333 Posts
On December 21 2011 09:21 Strivers wrote: been deciding whether to pull the trigger on this game.......1-10 what do you guys rate it? it will be my first mmo..don't want it to take over my life ha I pulled the trigger here, ive just heard to many good things about the game in addition to my 12 hours of beta. Im a medium MMO guy ive done AC, WOW, and Warhammer so this will be my 4th MMO, I say medium because ive never reached max level on a single one heh I usually end up bored through the grinding and questing. However this game is very different so far. You feel so immersed in this game its actully insane. The story line is great, I always feel the suspense when going through my class's storyline. One negative thing here tho is that the side quests are like this TT. Those I would prefer WoW style. But the main quest lines def make up for it.This game will be great as a first MMO, Ive noticed the progression is so much faster than any other MMO which is a huge plus. I put my first 6 hours in today and ive got sick armor and a darth maul esque lightsaber. For a non-hardcore guy this is very appealing. Im assuming the reason your posting here is because you play sc2 and from what ive seen most ppl that play RTS love to PvP on MMO's. Ive had very little experience so far in the game in that regard so youll have to ask around. But I would say pull the trigger man, even if you dont get involved with anybody in the community, it feels like a single player RPG ala Skyrim. 9/10 | ||
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-UMADIMSTYLIN-
Cuba292 Posts
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Neurosis
United States893 Posts
On December 21 2011 10:09 ChrisGraphex wrote: I'm trying to get a refund for this game but its nearly impossible. Origin Bioware/EA suck Why whats your problem with it? | ||
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Dusty
United States3359 Posts
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Fruscainte
4596 Posts
On December 21 2011 10:43 Dusty wrote: Are there a lot of TL'ers on any certain server? Preferably PvP? There's a thread for the TL guild | ||
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Syben
United States512 Posts
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antelope591
Canada820 Posts
On December 21 2011 09:23 Fruscainte wrote: For those whom like the "WoW formula" of things and are willing to have some patience, it could easily be a 7.5-8/10. Which is basically above average / pretty decent game. For those looking for something else, you will not get anything really new other than the dialogue options. So that's how you should slice it. Do you want what is safe and proven to work? Then you'll enjoy this game most likely. Especially if you love star wars. I feel like it's more of a CORPG (co-op RPG) rather than an MMO (massively multiplayer online RPG). It's a very linear game with a lot of story aspects, a lot can be solo'd easily and even encouraged -- however, many opportunities arise to interact and do shit with people. However, it just doesn't really feel...massive to me. Especially with the small party sizes and whatnot. Now do NOT mistake that for criticism or bashing. I love small party sizes, quite a lot personally if they are done well. I'm just stating more of what it is, as to not cause a misconception. It's an MMO in the same sense that Guild Wars 1 was an MMO, for those whom played that game, in my opinion. Which is just fine and dandy, plenty of people loved that game -- 8 million people to be in fact. (I think GW1 rather meh-tier as well, but I recognize how many could enjoy it and am merely using it as comparison) So it all depends on perspective, I suppose. It seems to be rather black and white for people loving it or hating it. I agree...I'm waiting to see what end game is like before I rate it. It feels more like a single player RPG than an MMO. The group quests and pvp are fun but you can easily get through the game without ever grouping or even seeing that many other players which feels kind of weird for an MMO. Yea you could do that in wow too but in that game there was always lots of players in quest areas and cities so it felt more MMOish. In this game with all the instances and how spread out things are its rare to even see more than 1 or 2 other players in the same area as you unless your in a starting zone. I don't mind because I like soloing through the leveling process but it is a little weird. | ||
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Taurent
Canada401 Posts
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ampson
United States2355 Posts
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