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On November 03 2016 06:57 GTR wrote:
I've created a Google Form/Spreadsheet for people to help add eachother.

Hopefully this will makes things easier for us to find people for Mythic+ runs and what not as opposed to sifting through 150+ pages of discussion.

Form
Spreadsheet

If a moderator could add this as a moderator note at the top it'd be appreciated.
m4ini
Profile Joined February 2014
4215 Posts
December 10 2020 10:42 GMT
#261
Too old to get that invested into the game - bought the expansion because i played it on/off for like 15 years, but not gonna invest much time. Got to 60, saw/enjoyed (for the most part) the content, played a few dungeons, few torghasts, learnt to hate the maw, and now, well..

I'm kinda done. Leveling a warrior for the giggles, very slowly, but that's it. And i'm happy with that.
On track to MA1950A.
Emnjay808
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States10665 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-12-11 20:38:09
December 11 2020 20:37 GMT
#262
This expansion does a great job of bringing in previous players who doesnt wanna commit too much time but still experience a new expansion.
Skol
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
December 12 2020 08:45 GMT
#263
Apprently they made a bunch of nerfs already to the raid. I went in barely knowing the fights and probably a little undergeared and we were able to clear 6 bosses without too many issues. We were just doing normal and had 180 ilv as our baseline.

Mechanics felt solid for the most part, a big too many things look nearly identical but is pretty clear imo. This seems to change at the dance fight where we stopped. Again mechanics felt pretty straightforward but the dps check is a bit higher and messing things up is really punishing.

Overall feels solid for an opening raid, with some fun throwbacks and a Karazan feel just with Vampires.
I can take that responsibility.
Emnjay808
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States10665 Posts
December 14 2020 18:58 GMT
#264
Okay doing Torghast 6 is actually pretty challenging. Currently a 185 Prot War and I have to hope I get lots of DPS rolls otherwise a lot of the bosses will just stack buff and get out of control.

Also I heard that the companion missions won’t be necessary to do like previous expats but they are starting to offer soul ash rewards. Not that I mind, but still. It’s kinda one of the main things I pay attention to now since I’m leveling two different legendaries up.
Skol
ffswowsucks
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Greece2297 Posts
December 14 2020 20:34 GMT
#265
On December 10 2020 19:42 m4ini wrote:
Too old to get that invested into the game - bought the expansion because i played it on/off for like 15 years, but not gonna invest much time. Got to 60, saw/enjoyed (for the most part) the content, played a few dungeons, few torghasts, learnt to hate the maw, and now, well..

I'm kinda done. Leveling a warrior for the giggles, very slowly, but that's it. And i'm happy with that.

exactly in the same position.
Terran in particular is a notoriously strong race for a no brain skillhand bot style.
Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7393 Posts
December 17 2020 11:25 GMT
#266
Ive gotten weird mount luck this expac, first try got the Plagueroc from Geiger, and first try I've gotten the Mawsworn Soulhunter

SO NOW I CAN MOUNT IN THE MAW, I am spending my time running circles around people like a supreme showboaty asshole
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
Emnjay808
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States10665 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-12-17 23:50:38
December 17 2020 23:44 GMT
#267
being able to mount in the Maw is a real flex. being able to do that while being a druid is even better. please tell me youre a druid as well.

edit:
also even though my ilvl is 194 im still being turned down as a tank for anything +9 and up. later i discovered about IO and that its a score that rates your mythic+ completion and when they were completed. so im kinda already fucked since the first week of mythic+ i was content just doing +2 across the board lol
Skol
tec27
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States3702 Posts
December 18 2020 00:00 GMT
#268
On December 18 2020 08:44 Emnjay808 wrote:
being able to mount in the Maw is a real flex. being able to do that while being a druid is even better. please tell me youre a druid as well.

edit:
also even though my ilvl is 194 im still being turned down as a tank for anything +9 and up. later i discovered about IO and that its a score that rates your mythic+ completion and when they were completed. so im kinda already fucked since the first week of mythic+ i was content just doing +2 across the board lol

Yeah, raider.io is pretty important for mythics, but you're not really harmed by having done the lower keys, you just need to time some mid-range keys to get people to trust you probably. For non-tanks people will generally accept on gear level more, since you're just there to do damage or whatever, but with a tank they generally want to know you know a decent route and such.
Can you jam with the console cowboys in cyberspace?
Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7393 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-12-18 06:04:13
December 18 2020 06:03 GMT
#269
On December 18 2020 08:44 Emnjay808 wrote:
being able to mount in the Maw is a real flex. being able to do that while being a druid is even better. please tell me youre a druid as well.

edit:
also even though my ilvl is 194 im still being turned down as a tank for anything +9 and up. later i discovered about IO and that its a score that rates your mythic+ completion and when they were completed. so im kinda already fucked since the first week of mythic+ i was content just doing +2 across the board lol


I have two mains, the first is my Shaman of twelve years the other... is my Druid.

I cannot resist the urge to dual flex on the Druid
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
December 19 2020 06:00 GMT
#270
On December 18 2020 08:44 Emnjay808 wrote:
being able to mount in the Maw is a real flex. being able to do that while being a druid is even better. please tell me youre a druid as well.

edit:
also even though my ilvl is 194 im still being turned down as a tank for anything +9 and up. later i discovered about IO and that its a score that rates your mythic+ completion and when they were completed. so im kinda already fucked since the first week of mythic+ i was content just doing +2 across the board lol

host your own m+, unless you have high io most people will be dickbags and not invite you, even if youre super geared.

I am almost 200 on my lock and still get denied
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28097 Posts
December 19 2020 07:57 GMT
#271
For what it's worth they aren't intentionally being "dickbags". When I host keys in the 10-13 range atm I immediately get like 20-30 dps applicants. It's an unfortunate circumstance for those that are not willing to host/push their own key for the week, because I'm 100% gonna take the best looking applicants in that 20-30 player pool.

It's a little easier for healers/tanks because there's far less people to compete against of course.

Btw I also complained heavily about the io system when I was new to the game back in Uldir, so I completely get the frustration. It's a terrible system when it comes to truly showing someones worth/skill. I at least try to also look at raid logs when inviting people which might help some of the lower io applicants.
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arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
December 19 2020 18:45 GMT
#272
On December 19 2020 16:57 TheEmulator wrote:
For what it's worth they aren't intentionally being "dickbags". When I host keys in the 10-13 range atm I immediately get like 20-30 dps applicants. It's an unfortunate circumstance for those that are not willing to host/push their own key for the week, because I'm 100% gonna take the best looking applicants in that 20-30 player pool.

It's a little easier for healers/tanks because there's far less people to compete against of course.

Btw I also complained heavily about the io system when I was new to the game back in Uldir, so I completely get the frustration. It's a terrible system when it comes to truly showing someones worth/skill. I at least try to also look at raid logs when inviting people which might help some of the lower io applicants.

No of course they aren't most groups i got into in BFA that gave the whole "checking io" thing turned out to be retards looking for a full carry. Which me thinking they might be decent was what they got. RIO is honestly one of those things idc about since i dont enjoy m+ but i wish blizz would break like they did gearscore and all that other shit back in wrath days
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22084 Posts
December 19 2020 19:05 GMT
#273
On December 20 2020 03:45 arb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2020 16:57 TheEmulator wrote:
For what it's worth they aren't intentionally being "dickbags". When I host keys in the 10-13 range atm I immediately get like 20-30 dps applicants. It's an unfortunate circumstance for those that are not willing to host/push their own key for the week, because I'm 100% gonna take the best looking applicants in that 20-30 player pool.

It's a little easier for healers/tanks because there's far less people to compete against of course.

Btw I also complained heavily about the io system when I was new to the game back in Uldir, so I completely get the frustration. It's a terrible system when it comes to truly showing someones worth/skill. I at least try to also look at raid logs when inviting people which might help some of the lower io applicants.

No of course they aren't most groups i got into in BFA that gave the whole "checking io" thing turned out to be retards looking for a full carry. Which me thinking they might be decent was what they got. RIO is honestly one of those things idc about since i dont enjoy m+ but i wish blizz would break like they did gearscore and all that other shit back in wrath days
They didn't break gearscore. they added it to the game...

The community will always invest some way to weed out people from groups. Not much point in trying to fight that. And for M+ this is cranked up to 11 because its something you can actually fail.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Danglars
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States12133 Posts
December 19 2020 23:02 GMT
#274
I've pugged a lot of mythic+ 5-11 keys, and the raider.io deal is a godsend for pugging players. Lower keys, we take most everybody with gear to do it. Higher keys, we're looking for people that have been able to complete keys one-behind with preference towards people that have timed identical keys.

It's a very imprecise system, but it is definitely an aid. And I agree that it is abused by certain groups.
Great armies come from happy zealots, and happy zealots come from California!
TL+ Member
tec27
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States3702 Posts
December 20 2020 00:28 GMT
#275
Yeah, I really can't see why you'd want to see it broken/removed. There are absolutely cases where it can harm you if you don't have a lot of mythic history/friends to run stuff with but are actually good at the game, but not being able to differentiate between people that apply to your group and having them ruin your keys constantly sure isn't great either.

Is having a bunch of high keys done a guarantee that you're a good player? Definitely not. Is it more of a guarantee than "randomly pick someone" or "pick someone with the highest item level"? Definitely.
Can you jam with the console cowboys in cyberspace?
InFiNitY[pG]
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
Germany3474 Posts
December 20 2020 11:53 GMT
#276
High Mythic+ is also not just about being a good player, but a lot about experience: what to pull, which spells to dodge/interrupt, what route to take, how boss mechanics work, where to use your CDs etc etc. IO score is the best system that wow has to show this.
"I just pressed stimpack, and somehow I won the battle" -Flash
Emnjay808
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States10665 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-12-22 05:59:33
December 22 2020 05:58 GMT
#277
okay the great vault rewards tooltip is bugged i believe. read a small post about it too, but my bug is that it says "complete 1 more mythic +5 or higher to improve your reward" and ive done at least 4-5 of them today all timed or over time.

zzzzzzz
Skol
Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7393 Posts
December 22 2020 11:51 GMT
#278
How’re PvP rewards looking? I’m almost tempted to do some 2s or BGs for gear since I’ve heard it’s not too bad
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
tec27
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States3702 Posts
December 23 2020 00:34 GMT
#279
On December 22 2020 20:51 Zambrah wrote:
How’re PvP rewards looking? I’m almost tempted to do some 2s or BGs for gear since I’ve heard it’s not too bad

The system seems pretty good to me. It's not gonna give you perfect stats (honor + conquest rewards both have a selection of different stats, but neither of them have complete coverage and their coverage differs by slot), but it's probably not going to hold you back *that* much. Honor gear can be upgraded to a certain max level depending on your renown (currently 184 ilvl), and Conquest gear can be upgraded to a max level depending on your rating (starts at 200 ilvl for unranked and goes up from there).

You're still definitely rewarded for doing a breadth of content (e.g. mixing in some mythic+ instead of just doing PvP), but I've geared up primarily through PvP and a few mythics and it's felt pretty nice to me. Definitely far nicer than what was in place in BFA.
Can you jam with the console cowboys in cyberspace?
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
December 23 2020 17:59 GMT
#280
The world first race is very fun right now, first time ever that two guilds are going at it for world first on stream on same boss and are pretty close, good content!
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