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daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
April 20 2015 14:40 GMT
#9681
I'm sure the trinkets will be a big dps boost, some calculations I looked for spriests were putting the proc at something ridic like +6k dps.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20342 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-20 15:09:30
April 20 2015 15:07 GMT
#9682
On April 20 2015 23:40 daemir wrote:
I'm sure the trinkets will be a big dps boost, some calculations I looked for spriests were putting the proc at something ridic like +6k dps.


Hunter trink would be 2.5 - 3.5k DPS gain at realistic ranges, assuming you do 40k DPS without it. Max 5k though if you have a fair amount of mastery (awful stat for MM)
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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-20 15:28:24
April 20 2015 15:28 GMT
#9683
I thought at 4 piece all hunters are BM anyway? In which having Beastial Wrath last longer seems a pretty nice trinket? xd
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Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20342 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-20 15:52:32
April 20 2015 15:49 GMT
#9684
On April 21 2015 00:28 Pandemona wrote:
I thought at 4 piece all hunters are BM anyway? In which having Beastial Wrath last longer seems a pretty nice trinket? xd


They are right now, but maybe not next tier. T17 was unusually good for BM.

MM is also a different playstyle and a MM hunter is way better than a bunch of other classes/specs, even if 4 piece BM is unusually strong on a large variety of fights. You can still kill mythic bosses with it (which puts you higher progressed than like 95% of players)~ it's just not optimal for progression at the highest level
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
April 20 2015 16:53 GMT
#9685
On April 21 2015 00:28 Pandemona wrote:
I thought at 4 piece all hunters are BM anyway? In which having Beastial Wrath last longer seems a pretty nice trinket? xd


We don't know anything about T18 Hunter bonus, and T17 bonus were really what pushed BM ahead.
BM get buffed a bit in 6.2, but so does MM.

If things don't get changed further, I could see MM being the best single target spec and BM being the AoE spec.
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
April 20 2015 21:50 GMT
#9686
Eu getting game time token tomorrow(today), 20 euros, start gold price at 35k.
deth2munkies
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4051 Posts
April 21 2015 03:07 GMT
#9687
The Affliction lock trinket looks like it could be a DPS loss in some cases...
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
April 21 2015 03:18 GMT
#9688
On April 21 2015 12:07 deth2munkies wrote:
The Affliction lock trinket looks like it could be a DPS loss in some cases...

I'm like 90% certain the holy priest one is a healing loss as well
DCRed
Profile Joined May 2011
Finland435 Posts
April 21 2015 07:10 GMT
#9689
Yeah and they are going to change those procs and tweak numbers later on.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-21 07:58:59
April 21 2015 07:58 GMT
#9690
On April 21 2015 16:10 DCRed wrote:
Yeah and they are going to change those procs and tweak numbers later on.

True but I don't think tweaking numbers would make me like that trinket anymore from a Holy POV. Increasing cast time in general this expansion is really worthless just because pre heals are too strong

Would need a full rework from its current design
deth2munkies
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4051 Posts
April 21 2015 08:00 GMT
#9691
On April 21 2015 16:10 DCRed wrote:
Yeah and they are going to change those procs and tweak numbers later on.


It's not the numbers. If I'm reading it correctly, it makes your DoTs tick faster but expire sooner, meaning you have to reapply them more often, which means UA is going to have lower uptime on some high movement fights. Not to mention it being a pain because if you're like me, you have the timings down to muscle memory, and it screws with that.
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12247 Posts
April 21 2015 08:02 GMT
#9692
At least it's not as bad as the Fire one
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
April 21 2015 08:02 GMT
#9693
On April 21 2015 17:00 deth2munkies wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2015 16:10 DCRed wrote:
Yeah and they are going to change those procs and tweak numbers later on.


It's not the numbers. If I'm reading it correctly, it makes your DoTs tick faster but expire sooner, meaning you have to reapply them more often, which means UA is going to have lower uptime on some high movement fights. Not to mention it being a pain because if you're like me, you have the timings down to muscle memory, and it screws with that.


Exactly this sometimes things are just terrible from a design PoV and no amount of tweaking can save them
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
April 21 2015 08:47 GMT
#9694
Demo warlock trinket is almost meaningless
DCRed
Profile Joined May 2011
Finland435 Posts
April 21 2015 09:08 GMT
#9695
Procs aren't final is the keyword here. Obviously some of them are shit design which wont go live, nor does anyone expect ret to get +million damage buff from the trinket(except rets themselves). I wish they scrapped the class trinkets altogether and made something like RoRo.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-21 09:16:11
April 21 2015 09:13 GMT
#9696
On April 21 2015 18:08 DCRed wrote:
Procs aren't final is the keyword here. Obviously some of them are shit design which wont go live, nor does anyone expect ret to get +million damage buff from the trinket(except rets themselves). I wish they scrapped the class trinkets altogether and made something like RoRo.

I prefer class trinkets / gear its much better just competing in class rather than competing with every healer / every dps for the same trinket

Also i've been burnt before. I never underestimate Blizzard's ability to put stuff in the game that only harms you
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12247 Posts
April 21 2015 09:16 GMT
#9697
It can lead to a crap ton of useless drops though. It will be interesting how they implement them, i feel like it will use tokens like tier sets do now
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
April 21 2015 09:28 GMT
#9698
On April 21 2015 18:16 Teoita wrote:
It can lead to a crap ton of useless drops though. It will be interesting how they implement them, i feel like it will use tokens like tier sets do now

Well most guilds I know are pretty much fully geared after a month or so at which point any farm content is worthless because badges don't exist. At least this would make the gearing process longer solving the issue slightly
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
April 21 2015 09:28 GMT
#9699
I'm pretty sure the trinkets will only drop for classes in the raid, and that they cover all 3 spec depending on which you have selected.
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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
April 21 2015 12:17 GMT
#9700
On April 21 2015 17:02 Teoita wrote:
At least it's not as bad as the Fire one

Bad?
Fire isn't for single target fights anyway, now imagine beastlord as an example with that trinket right now? How much more dps increase would it be, would be insane. Don't forget flamestrike adds ignite % now too be great imo. The fights you use fire with in BRF that is going off of.

Arcane one looks pretty cool would like to see sim of it though to see if it really is good.
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