• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 18:55
CEST 00:55
KST 07:55
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL20] Finals Preview: Arrival6TL.net Map Contest #21: Voting10[ASL20] Ro4 Preview: Descent11Team TLMC #5: Winners Announced!3[ASL20] Ro8 Preview Pt2: Holding On9
Community News
Merivale 8 Open - LAN - Stellar Fest0Chinese SC2 server to reopen; live all-star event in Hangzhou21Weekly Cups (Oct 13-19): Clem Goes for Four3BSL Team A vs Koreans - Sat-Sun 16:00 CET10Weekly Cups (Oct 6-12): Four star herO8
StarCraft 2
General
RotterdaM "Serral is the GOAT, and it's not close" Chinese SC2 server to reopen; live all-star event in Hangzhou The New Patch Killed Mech! Weekly Cups (Oct 13-19): Clem Goes for Four 5.0.15 Patch Balance Hotfix (2025-10-8)
Tourneys
Merivale 8 Open - LAN - Stellar Fest Tenacious Turtle Tussle RSL Season 3 Qualifier Links and Dates $1,200 WardiTV October (Oct 21st-31st) SC2's Safe House 2 - October 18 & 19
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 496 Endless Infection Mutation # 495 Rest In Peace Mutation # 494 Unstable Environment Mutation # 493 Quick Killers
Brood War
General
Is there anyway to get a private coach? BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ [ASL20] Finals Preview: Arrival BSL Team A vs Koreans - Sat-Sun 16:00 CET OGN to release AI-upscaled StarLeague from Feb 24
Tourneys
[ASL20] Grand Finals ASL final tickets help Small VOD Thread 2.0 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues
Strategy
Roaring Currents ASL final Simple Questions, Simple Answers Relatively freeroll strategies BW - ajfirecracker Strategy & Training
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread General RTS Discussion Thread Nintendo Switch Thread Path of Exile Dawn of War IV
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion LiquidDota to reintegrate into TL.net
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread SPIRED by.ASL Mafia {211640}
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine YouTube Thread The Chess Thread
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece Korean Music Discussion Series you have seen recently... Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread MLB/Baseball 2023 TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion NBA General Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
SC2 Client Relocalization [Change SC2 Language] Linksys AE2500 USB WIFI keeps disconnecting Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
The Benefits Of Limited Comm…
TrAiDoS
Sabrina was soooo lame on S…
Peanutsc
Our Last Hope in th…
KrillinFromwales
Certified Crazy
Hildegard
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1479 users

[wow] Warlords of Draenor - Page 485

Forum Index > General Games
Post a Reply
Prev 1 483 484 485 486 487 591 Next
Add yourself to the player list
daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
April 20 2015 14:40 GMT
#9681
I'm sure the trinkets will be a big dps boost, some calculations I looked for spriests were putting the proc at something ridic like +6k dps.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20318 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-20 15:09:30
April 20 2015 15:07 GMT
#9682
On April 20 2015 23:40 daemir wrote:
I'm sure the trinkets will be a big dps boost, some calculations I looked for spriests were putting the proc at something ridic like +6k dps.


Hunter trink would be 2.5 - 3.5k DPS gain at realistic ranges, assuming you do 40k DPS without it. Max 5k though if you have a fair amount of mastery (awful stat for MM)
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-20 15:28:24
April 20 2015 15:28 GMT
#9683
I thought at 4 piece all hunters are BM anyway? In which having Beastial Wrath last longer seems a pretty nice trinket? xd
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20318 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-20 15:52:32
April 20 2015 15:49 GMT
#9684
On April 21 2015 00:28 Pandemona wrote:
I thought at 4 piece all hunters are BM anyway? In which having Beastial Wrath last longer seems a pretty nice trinket? xd


They are right now, but maybe not next tier. T17 was unusually good for BM.

MM is also a different playstyle and a MM hunter is way better than a bunch of other classes/specs, even if 4 piece BM is unusually strong on a large variety of fights. You can still kill mythic bosses with it (which puts you higher progressed than like 95% of players)~ it's just not optimal for progression at the highest level
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
April 20 2015 16:53 GMT
#9685
On April 21 2015 00:28 Pandemona wrote:
I thought at 4 piece all hunters are BM anyway? In which having Beastial Wrath last longer seems a pretty nice trinket? xd


We don't know anything about T18 Hunter bonus, and T17 bonus were really what pushed BM ahead.
BM get buffed a bit in 6.2, but so does MM.

If things don't get changed further, I could see MM being the best single target spec and BM being the AoE spec.
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
April 20 2015 21:50 GMT
#9686
Eu getting game time token tomorrow(today), 20 euros, start gold price at 35k.
deth2munkies
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4051 Posts
April 21 2015 03:07 GMT
#9687
The Affliction lock trinket looks like it could be a DPS loss in some cases...
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
April 21 2015 03:18 GMT
#9688
On April 21 2015 12:07 deth2munkies wrote:
The Affliction lock trinket looks like it could be a DPS loss in some cases...

I'm like 90% certain the holy priest one is a healing loss as well
DCRed
Profile Joined May 2011
Finland435 Posts
April 21 2015 07:10 GMT
#9689
Yeah and they are going to change those procs and tweak numbers later on.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-21 07:58:59
April 21 2015 07:58 GMT
#9690
On April 21 2015 16:10 DCRed wrote:
Yeah and they are going to change those procs and tweak numbers later on.

True but I don't think tweaking numbers would make me like that trinket anymore from a Holy POV. Increasing cast time in general this expansion is really worthless just because pre heals are too strong

Would need a full rework from its current design
deth2munkies
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4051 Posts
April 21 2015 08:00 GMT
#9691
On April 21 2015 16:10 DCRed wrote:
Yeah and they are going to change those procs and tweak numbers later on.


It's not the numbers. If I'm reading it correctly, it makes your DoTs tick faster but expire sooner, meaning you have to reapply them more often, which means UA is going to have lower uptime on some high movement fights. Not to mention it being a pain because if you're like me, you have the timings down to muscle memory, and it screws with that.
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12246 Posts
April 21 2015 08:02 GMT
#9692
At least it's not as bad as the Fire one
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
April 21 2015 08:02 GMT
#9693
On April 21 2015 17:00 deth2munkies wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2015 16:10 DCRed wrote:
Yeah and they are going to change those procs and tweak numbers later on.


It's not the numbers. If I'm reading it correctly, it makes your DoTs tick faster but expire sooner, meaning you have to reapply them more often, which means UA is going to have lower uptime on some high movement fights. Not to mention it being a pain because if you're like me, you have the timings down to muscle memory, and it screws with that.


Exactly this sometimes things are just terrible from a design PoV and no amount of tweaking can save them
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
April 21 2015 08:47 GMT
#9694
Demo warlock trinket is almost meaningless
DCRed
Profile Joined May 2011
Finland435 Posts
April 21 2015 09:08 GMT
#9695
Procs aren't final is the keyword here. Obviously some of them are shit design which wont go live, nor does anyone expect ret to get +million damage buff from the trinket(except rets themselves). I wish they scrapped the class trinkets altogether and made something like RoRo.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-21 09:16:11
April 21 2015 09:13 GMT
#9696
On April 21 2015 18:08 DCRed wrote:
Procs aren't final is the keyword here. Obviously some of them are shit design which wont go live, nor does anyone expect ret to get +million damage buff from the trinket(except rets themselves). I wish they scrapped the class trinkets altogether and made something like RoRo.

I prefer class trinkets / gear its much better just competing in class rather than competing with every healer / every dps for the same trinket

Also i've been burnt before. I never underestimate Blizzard's ability to put stuff in the game that only harms you
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12246 Posts
April 21 2015 09:16 GMT
#9697
It can lead to a crap ton of useless drops though. It will be interesting how they implement them, i feel like it will use tokens like tier sets do now
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
April 21 2015 09:28 GMT
#9698
On April 21 2015 18:16 Teoita wrote:
It can lead to a crap ton of useless drops though. It will be interesting how they implement them, i feel like it will use tokens like tier sets do now

Well most guilds I know are pretty much fully geared after a month or so at which point any farm content is worthless because badges don't exist. At least this would make the gearing process longer solving the issue slightly
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
April 21 2015 09:28 GMT
#9699
I'm pretty sure the trinkets will only drop for classes in the raid, and that they cover all 3 spec depending on which you have selected.
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
April 21 2015 12:17 GMT
#9700
On April 21 2015 17:02 Teoita wrote:
At least it's not as bad as the Fire one

Bad?
Fire isn't for single target fights anyway, now imagine beastlord as an example with that trinket right now? How much more dps increase would it be, would be insane. Don't forget flamestrike adds ignite % now too be great imo. The fights you use fire with in BRF that is going off of.

Arcane one looks pretty cool would like to see sim of it though to see if it really is good.
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Prev 1 483 484 485 486 487 591 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 9h 5m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
JuggernautJason93
Vindicta 31
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 14857
NaDa 19
Dota 2
capcasts108
LuMiX1
Counter-Strike
fl0m1522
Stewie2K479
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor220
Other Games
summit1g8091
Grubby2968
FrodaN2742
Mlord633
Artosis505
Skadoodle226
KnowMe156
ViBE98
Mew2King30
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1198
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 18 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• RyuSc2 76
• Hupsaiya 56
• musti20045 47
• davetesta20
• Freeedom5
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• sooper7s
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota21292
Other Games
• imaqtpie1286
• Shiphtur192
Upcoming Events
Afreeca Starleague
9h 5m
Snow vs Soma
Sparkling Tuna Cup
11h 5m
WardiTV Invitational
13h 5m
CrankTV Team League
14h 5m
BASILISK vs Streamerzone
Team Liquid vs Shopify Rebellion
Team Vitality vs Team Falcon
BSL Team A[vengers]
16h 5m
Gypsy vs nOOB
JDConan vs Scan
RSL Revival
18h 5m
Wardi Open
1d 13h
CrankTV Team League
1d 14h
Replay Cast
2 days
WardiTV Invitational
2 days
[ Show More ]
CrankTV Team League
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
CrankTV Team League
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
The PondCast
4 days
CrankTV Team League
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
WardiTV Invitational
5 days
CrankTV Team League
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Acropolis #4 - TS2
WardiTV TLMC #15
HCC Europe

Ongoing

BSL 21 Points
ASL Season 20
CSL 2025 AUTUMN (S18)
C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
EC S1
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025

Upcoming

SC4ALL: Brood War
BSL Season 21
BSL 21 Team A
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
RSL Offline Finals
RSL Revival: Season 3
Stellar Fest
SC4ALL: StarCraft II
CranK Gathers Season 2: SC II Pro Teams
eXTREMESLAND 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.