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Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12248 Posts
April 21 2015 12:20 GMT
#9701
Fire is borderline OP for aoe/cleave already, it doesn't need help there, and tbh it kind of sucks to have a trinket that's only useful on a handful of fights
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
April 21 2015 12:29 GMT
#9702
Well yeah but like i said you would be using the Arcane part of it for 80% of the fights xD then the cleave ones boom headshot flamestriking the whole place haha :D
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20344 Posts
April 21 2015 16:01 GMT
#9703
WoW token price going up - 36k

inb4 crash
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12248 Posts
April 21 2015 16:11 GMT
#9704
Because fuck off EU xD
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22648 Posts
April 21 2015 16:15 GMT
#9705
On April 22 2015 01:01 Cyro wrote:
WoW token price going up - 36k

inb4 crash

I expect the same as in the US. a brief rise and then a crash into the ~25k region.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Squat
Profile Joined September 2013
Sweden7978 Posts
April 21 2015 16:16 GMT
#9706
Price goes up the first day as the initial feeding frenzy ensues, then drops off as most of the inactive accounts get their tokens and people are content to wait it out before buying more game time. It's almost like we've seen this before.
"Digital. They have digital. What is digital?" - Donald J Trump
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
April 21 2015 16:37 GMT
#9707
Well isn't the WoW Token cheaper to buy with real money in Europe? May cause the prices to go even lower
Noizhende
Profile Joined January 2012
Austria328 Posts
April 21 2015 17:11 GMT
#9708
is it possible to buy and use those tokens without an active account? can't find anything about that
Die neuen Tempel haben schon Risse - künftige Ruinen - einst wächst Gras auch über diese Stadt - über ihre letzte Schicht
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20344 Posts
April 21 2015 17:16 GMT
#9709
On April 22 2015 01:37 Drazerk wrote:
Well isn't the WoW Token cheaper to buy with real money in Europe? May cause the prices to go even lower


No, it's 22.43 usd (from GBP)

or 21.5 usd (from euros)
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20344 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-21 17:43:06
April 21 2015 17:16 GMT
#9710
On April 22 2015 02:11 Noizhende wrote:
is it possible to buy and use those tokens without an active account? can't find anything about that


Yes, if you have the money. All accounts are active 24/7 now btw, just with some restrictions

derp double post


With token price going up like this, i might actually consider buying one for £15. It would take me like 10-24 hours to farm 40k gold.
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22648 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-21 18:34:42
April 21 2015 18:34 GMT
#9711
On April 22 2015 02:11 Noizhende wrote:
is it possible to buy and use those tokens without an active account? can't find anything about that

Yes. An inactive account now counts as a starter edition (meaning you can only play to level 20. characters above 20 cannot be logged in on).
You will be able to buy a Token from the Character Select screen if you have enough money and that will re-active your account.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Noizhende
Profile Joined January 2012
Austria328 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-21 18:36:54
April 21 2015 18:35 GMT
#9712
On April 22 2015 02:16 Cyro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2015 02:11 Noizhende wrote:
is it possible to buy and use those tokens without an active account? can't find anything about that


Yes, if you have the money. All accounts are active 24/7 now btw, just with some restrictions

derp double post


With token price going up like this, i might actually consider buying one for £15. It would take me like 10-24 hours to farm 40k gold.


ouh, i can just log in with any char and buy from the ah?

edit: holy crap 40k gold right now
Die neuen Tempel haben schon Risse - künftige Ruinen - einst wächst Gras auch über diese Stadt - über ihre letzte Schicht
Noizhende
Profile Joined January 2012
Austria328 Posts
April 21 2015 18:39 GMT
#9713
On April 22 2015 03:34 Gorsameth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2015 02:11 Noizhende wrote:
is it possible to buy and use those tokens without an active account? can't find anything about that

Yes. An inactive account now counts as a starter edition (meaning you can only play to level 20. characters above 20 cannot be logged in on).
You will be able to buy a Token from the Character Select screen if you have enough money and that will re-active your account.


yes, just checked it out, but somehow i can't buy although i have enough gold, well i'll wait until the price drops anyway

thx guys
Die neuen Tempel haben schon Risse - künftige Ruinen - einst wächst Gras auch über diese Stadt - über ihre letzte Schicht
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
April 21 2015 19:03 GMT
#9714
The reason the price has gone up so fast is because Blizzard modified the rate at which the price changes. For the US launch it was hourly, but at 1:30 PM on the 18th it started updating every 15 minutes.

This has obviously already exacerbated the spike, and I expect it will have a similar effect on the eventual crash. More people are going to rush to sell Tokens as the price goes up, meaning there'll be an even bigger surplus crashing the price.

I'm actually interested to see what happens come May. Theoretically speaking that's when the 10 token limit will reset, and I'll be curious to see if that's enough of a factor to have a significant effect on prices.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22648 Posts
April 21 2015 19:14 GMT
#9715
I would expect a price spike every months as subs run out but otherwise I don't expect the limit resetting will have an effect. Those with multiple months of game time wont be buying more for a little while and the amount of people with large numbers of accounts is to small to have a significant impact.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20344 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-21 19:17:39
April 21 2015 19:16 GMT
#9716
I would expect a price spike every months as subs run out


That's not going to happen because the token sub time is added onto the end of your current sub when your days run out. There's no massive trend towards subs running out on a specific day or even week - so the effect will be spread out

41k and rising. I'm gonna buy one and drop it as soon as it goes off 30 min sales i think. This crash is gonna be epic (:
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22648 Posts
April 21 2015 19:17 GMT
#9717
On April 22 2015 04:16 Cyro wrote:
Show nested quote +
I would expect a price spike every months as subs run out


Dismissed this a few times before - that's not going to happen because the token sub time is added onto the end of your current sub when your days run out. If 10'000 people buy tokens, they'll still have subs running out over a time period spread across the entire month

I expect a decent number of those buying were inactive but your right, overall it will probably be spread out enough to not be noticeable.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20344 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-21 19:22:26
April 21 2015 19:18 GMT
#9718
I expect a decent number of those buying were inactive


ahh yea i hadn't considered that

overall though i think the amount of people that wouldn't play the game unless they could sub with gold (and were not playing, previously) is pretty small compared to the entire region population

I'd just like a bit of gold right now because i'm i650 with a 630 weapon and my trinkets are 615 and 600. I'd have to get really lucky to fill out all three of those with heroic-brf capable gear (though i can arena whore for the 660 weapon) on the next reset with PUG's. Overall i have strong gear now but the gaps will be annoying to fill

I only have access to like 100g/day on this realm with the garrison because it's a new char and i have two treasure hunters (with abilities that rarely are correct for the mission, so i get doubled gold with like a 55-75% chance quite often, barely any improvement) - i think it might even be worth going scavengers first, but i can keep lumber mill running and drop in a trading post to generate GR if i stay in the current state of treating water at under 1000 GR because spending a lot of them on follower upgrades and sending the missions (rly adds up when you're starved)
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
April 21 2015 19:25 GMT
#9719
On April 22 2015 04:14 Gorsameth wrote:
I would expect a price spike every months as subs run out but otherwise I don't expect the limit resetting will have an effect. Those with multiple months of game time wont be buying more for a little while and the amount of people with large numbers of accounts is to small to have a significant impact.


My interest has less to do with the buyers than the sellers.

If Token caps are all reset at the same time I'm hypothesizing a potential supply spike as sellers who capped previously do so again. There are two questions on my mind:
  • Are those sellers a sufficiently large portion of the population such that the cap reset has the potential to push the price significantly lower than normal.
  • What fraction of those sellers will sell/cap again?

The population of Token cappers might be too low to create a perceivable fluctuation. Similarly, a significant fraction of capper may not cap again because they've either bought what they were looking for or aren't interested at the lower peak price of ~24k, Either or both of these factors, along with simple awareness of when the cap resets, could mean we don't see an extra deep price drop at the start of May.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20344 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-21 22:02:48
April 21 2015 19:41 GMT
#9720
price gonna rise 1700g in the next hour at this rate (to 43.6k)

damn it would cost £39 ($57) to take my char from twisting nether horde to silvermoon alliance

The population of Token cappers might be too low to create a perceivable fluctuation


It's oscillating like crazy on the US side anyway (like +-10% constantly) because of artificially allowing people to sell for higher prices than the balanced market value which makes it super hard to see any small changes

Just switched from 30 min sales to 30 min - 2hr on EU @43k


The price is adjusting by smaller amounts, i don't think i've seen this on token exchange before. The last increase was only 1.00288x (bit over a quarter of a percent, not 1% per 15 min)


44967 to 44981 adjustment. IT'S HAPPENING

I'l try to sell at 45k

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"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
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