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DCRed
Profile Joined May 2011
Finland435 Posts
April 17 2015 20:19 GMT
#9641
This is Blizzard we are talking about. MoP had lots of content and saw patches pretty fast, WoD came and Blizzard suddenly forgot to create content for 6.1 and dragged out the first tier while managing to screw up the balancing between two raids.

Well, at least 6.2 is looking pretty good already(lets hope Blizz wont screw up raiding now).
caelym
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6429 Posts
April 17 2015 20:25 GMT
#9642
On April 18 2015 05:04 Spicy_Curry wrote:
Everything other than mythic brf has been woefully easy this expansion. Its kinda sad that there is nothing to do other than raid.

honest question, what did people do outside of raiding in other xpacs? I only started playing at the very end of MoP.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
April 17 2015 20:29 GMT
#9643
On April 18 2015 05:25 caelym wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2015 05:04 Spicy_Curry wrote:
Everything other than mythic brf has been woefully easy this expansion. Its kinda sad that there is nothing to do other than raid.

honest question, what did people do outside of raiding in other xpacs? I only started playing at the very end of MoP.

Daily quest hubs that was basically gated content but allowed people to get money by doing quests while earning rep to get a decent reward (Usually gear / mounts etc etc)

Farming for raid materials / money since we didn't have a garrison shitting out free resources constantly

Daily heroics that'd give points usuable to buy new gear / upgrades etc etc

The garrison basically removed all forms of active gameplay which is kind of my gripe with the removal of flying mounts as well since we traded active gameplay (Flying about) for inactive gameplay (AFKing)
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
April 17 2015 20:31 GMT
#9644
It's fair to say that WoD came out half-baked. All the systems were essentially in place, but they weren't fully/properly tuned prior to launch. As a result you have stuff like garrisons yielding enough ore/herbs such that you never need to actually farm materials in the greater world, heroic dungeons that could be skipped entirely if not for the ring quest, and only half of the first raid tier ready on time.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
caelym
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6429 Posts
April 17 2015 20:31 GMT
#9645
That makes sense. The garrison really does make a lot of things easy/afk mode.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22487 Posts
April 17 2015 20:50 GMT
#9646
On April 18 2015 05:31 Seuss wrote:
It's fair to say that WoD came out half-baked. All the systems were essentially in place, but they weren't fully/properly tuned prior to launch. As a result you have stuff like garrisons yielding enough ore/herbs such that you never need to actually farm materials in the greater world, heroic dungeons that could be skipped entirely if not for the ring quest, and only half of the first raid tier ready on time.

Herb/Ore was planned. they did the same with farms in MoP
Heroics you have a point. They should have given some Apexis.
Raid tier was the same as in MoP and was planned. They just added a bit more then in between the 2 halves which they also said way back in beta.

6.0 wasnt half-baked in any way.
6.1 on the other hand was a disaster. They couldn't even find time to add the Iron Dock new quest hub lol.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
April 17 2015 20:59 GMT
#9647
I wasn't aware that some of the things I found half-baked matched patterns found MoP (I skipped that expansion). I'd still argue that 6.0 wasn't as polished as it should have been.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20342 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-17 21:07:13
April 17 2015 20:59 GMT
#9648
On April 18 2015 04:47 Arnstein wrote:
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On April 17 2015 21:53 nikj wrote:
My Girlfriend did the loremaster chievo in Cata. Usually aiming for 20-30 quests per login, not sure the exact amount of hours it was a lot though!


It's very different now, I assume? I started in Pandaria, but you are a lot more leveled than in Cata now, so I guess the quests will take shorter time?


Not really.

At level 60 doing level 60 quests i was one-shotting everything - time to kill on level 1-95 mobs is simply too low. Being level 90 or level 100 won't change a thing, but Azeroth quests will go much more slowly if you're sub-60 and can't fly

6.1 on the other hand was a disaster. They couldn't even find time to add the Iron Dock new quest hub lol.


There was a blizzard post saying there was never going to BE an iron dock quest hub in 6.1, it was never planned, people just datamined a few things and made wild rumors about there being a potential quest hub there.

We're doing something there for a little while before heading to Tanaan, but that's tied into the Tanaan and 6.2 stuff. No hub~
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
April 18 2015 00:59 GMT
#9649
Anyone here can estimate around how much the Viscidus minipet is worth these days ?
I know its one of the most expensive one because solo'ing the boss can be annoying to set up for many classes, but I'm not sure how high the prices can go.
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20342 Posts
April 18 2015 02:33 GMT
#9650
I gotta say, people insta-declining i635-640 people to normal highmaul (with 7/7 heroic achievements) is infuriating

who do these people think wants to run normal highmaul?
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
April 18 2015 02:56 GMT
#9651
On April 18 2015 11:33 Cyro wrote:
I gotta say, people insta-declining i635-640 people to normal highmaul (with 7/7 heroic achievements) is infuriating

who do these people think wants to run normal highmaul?


No competent leader would ever take achievements as an acceptable form of proof of kill so its not like it'd matter
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20342 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-18 04:58:14
April 18 2015 04:57 GMT
#9652
On April 18 2015 11:56 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2015 11:33 Cyro wrote:
I gotta say, people insta-declining i635-640 people to normal highmaul (with 7/7 heroic achievements) is infuriating

who do these people think wants to run normal highmaul?


No competent leader would ever take achievements as an acceptable form of proof of kill so its not like it'd matter


There's no proof of anything since you can buy any achievement/gear - so why selectively decline people?
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
April 18 2015 05:22 GMT
#9653
On April 18 2015 13:57 Cyro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2015 11:56 Drazerk wrote:
On April 18 2015 11:33 Cyro wrote:
I gotta say, people insta-declining i635-640 people to normal highmaul (with 7/7 heroic achievements) is infuriating

who do these people think wants to run normal highmaul?


No competent leader would ever take achievements as an acceptable form of proof of kill so its not like it'd matter


There's no proof of anything since you can buy any achievement/gear - so why selectively decline people?


gear at least gives margin for error when you play bad. If you have 690 gear you're still gonna do better than a top mythic player person in 630 gear even if you have no idea how to play the class properly. Achievement fakers exist and are fairly popular these days so its armoury or bust
lestye
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4224 Posts
April 18 2015 05:57 GMT
#9654
On April 18 2015 01:13 Noocta wrote:
Disappointing. They have nothing " Mythic " if they just have increased health and damage. This look easier than Challenge mode.

Yeah... even if health and damage is exactly the same, class tool kits are way more versatile nowadays. There needs to be mechanics to compensate for that.
"You guys are just edgelords. Embrace your inner weeb desu" -Zergneedsfood
lestye
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4224 Posts
April 18 2015 06:02 GMT
#9655
On April 18 2015 05:29 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2015 05:25 caelym wrote:
On April 18 2015 05:04 Spicy_Curry wrote:
Everything other than mythic brf has been woefully easy this expansion. Its kinda sad that there is nothing to do other than raid.

honest question, what did people do outside of raiding in other xpacs? I only started playing at the very end of MoP.

Daily quest hubs that was basically gated content but allowed people to get money by doing quests while earning rep to get a decent reward (Usually gear / mounts etc etc)

Farming for raid materials / money since we didn't have a garrison shitting out free resources constantly

Daily heroics that'd give points usuable to buy new gear / upgrades etc etc

The garrison basically removed all forms of active gameplay which is kind of my gripe with the removal of flying mounts as well since we traded active gameplay (Flying about) for inactive gameplay (AFKing)


I think the no dailies was a huge knee jerk reaction. I think the removal of badges and made heroics absolutely pointless is the worst part of the state of the game.
"You guys are just edgelords. Embrace your inner weeb desu" -Zergneedsfood
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-18 06:20:45
April 18 2015 06:20 GMT
#9656
On April 18 2015 15:02 lestye wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2015 05:29 Drazerk wrote:
On April 18 2015 05:25 caelym wrote:
On April 18 2015 05:04 Spicy_Curry wrote:
Everything other than mythic brf has been woefully easy this expansion. Its kinda sad that there is nothing to do other than raid.

honest question, what did people do outside of raiding in other xpacs? I only started playing at the very end of MoP.

Daily quest hubs that was basically gated content but allowed people to get money by doing quests while earning rep to get a decent reward (Usually gear / mounts etc etc)

Farming for raid materials / money since we didn't have a garrison shitting out free resources constantly

Daily heroics that'd give points usuable to buy new gear / upgrades etc etc

The garrison basically removed all forms of active gameplay which is kind of my gripe with the removal of flying mounts as well since we traded active gameplay (Flying about) for inactive gameplay (AFKing)


I think the no dailies was a huge knee jerk reaction. I think the removal of badges and made heroics absolutely pointless is the worst part of the state of the game.


The sad thing is the removal badges has made farm content pointless as well. I either hope a warforged / socket item drops or we d/e everything the boss drops with no one being happy about the loot situation. I should not watch 6/10 mythic bosses give no loot to anyone in the raid with the only reason we even kill them being that they unlock other bosses
DCRed
Profile Joined May 2011
Finland435 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-18 07:03:33
April 18 2015 07:02 GMT
#9657
On April 18 2015 15:02 lestye wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2015 05:29 Drazerk wrote:
On April 18 2015 05:25 caelym wrote:
On April 18 2015 05:04 Spicy_Curry wrote:
Everything other than mythic brf has been woefully easy this expansion. Its kinda sad that there is nothing to do other than raid.

honest question, what did people do outside of raiding in other xpacs? I only started playing at the very end of MoP.

Daily quest hubs that was basically gated content but allowed people to get money by doing quests while earning rep to get a decent reward (Usually gear / mounts etc etc)

Farming for raid materials / money since we didn't have a garrison shitting out free resources constantly

Daily heroics that'd give points usuable to buy new gear / upgrades etc etc

The garrison basically removed all forms of active gameplay which is kind of my gripe with the removal of flying mounts as well since we traded active gameplay (Flying about) for inactive gameplay (AFKing)


I think the no dailies was a huge knee jerk reaction. I think the removal of badges and made heroics absolutely pointless is the worst part of the state of the game.


Yeah the best part was people said 5.1 dailies were good not 5.0 during beta. So Blizzard does 5.1 weekly and forgets the dailies and it's no where near the quality that 5.1 weekly was. I wonder if the all the people who left Blizzard recently are part problem why things haven't been looking too good.
lestye
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4224 Posts
April 18 2015 08:03 GMT
#9658
On April 18 2015 16:02 DCRed wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2015 15:02 lestye wrote:
On April 18 2015 05:29 Drazerk wrote:
On April 18 2015 05:25 caelym wrote:
On April 18 2015 05:04 Spicy_Curry wrote:
Everything other than mythic brf has been woefully easy this expansion. Its kinda sad that there is nothing to do other than raid.

honest question, what did people do outside of raiding in other xpacs? I only started playing at the very end of MoP.

Daily quest hubs that was basically gated content but allowed people to get money by doing quests while earning rep to get a decent reward (Usually gear / mounts etc etc)

Farming for raid materials / money since we didn't have a garrison shitting out free resources constantly

Daily heroics that'd give points usuable to buy new gear / upgrades etc etc

The garrison basically removed all forms of active gameplay which is kind of my gripe with the removal of flying mounts as well since we traded active gameplay (Flying about) for inactive gameplay (AFKing)


I think the no dailies was a huge knee jerk reaction. I think the removal of badges and made heroics absolutely pointless is the worst part of the state of the game.


Yeah the best part was people said 5.1 dailies were good not 5.0 during beta. So Blizzard does 5.1 weekly and forgets the dailies and it's no where near the quality that 5.1 weekly was. I wonder if the all the people who left Blizzard recently are part problem why things haven't been looking too good.

who left blizzard recently? the only person i remember that was a big deal was rob pardo
"You guys are just edgelords. Embrace your inner weeb desu" -Zergneedsfood
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22487 Posts
April 18 2015 09:28 GMT
#9659
On April 18 2015 11:33 Cyro wrote:
I gotta say, people insta-declining i635-640 people to normal highmaul (with 7/7 heroic achievements) is infuriating

who do these people think wants to run normal highmaul?

If you are appropriately geared for the instance people don't want you. Once you no longer need gear from the raid level you are welcome.

Pugs do not make sense.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
April 18 2015 09:58 GMT
#9660
Ofc it makes sense. People don't want to work for the content, they want to be carried through it.
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