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caelym
United States6421 Posts
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Drazerk
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Arnstein
Norway3381 Posts
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Cyro
United Kingdom20318 Posts
On March 14 2015 23:14 Gorsameth wrote: yes battles versus players have been in for a while. I've never seen anyone sat doing it in a raid break :0 And yea, i680 already for heroic diff, damn That's not a small change, even if it looks like it. 10 item levels on a weapon is a 10% boost in weapon damage at all levels, i think (once you reach WOD content)~ 5 item levels on all of your gear wouldn't surprise me to see it being 6-8% dps gain because of DPS stats stacking together. You're probably not wearing entirely BRF gear though. | ||
Drazerk
United Kingdom31255 Posts
On March 15 2015 10:08 Cyro wrote: I've never seen anyone sat doing it in a raid break :0 And yea, i680 already for heroic diff, damn That's not a small change, even if it looks like it. 10 item levels on a weapon is a 10% boost in weapon damage at all levels, i think (once you reach WOD content)~ 5 item levels on all of your gear wouldn't surprise me to see it being 6-8% dps gain because of DPS stats stacking together. You're probably not wearing entirely BRF gear though. Its massive for those of us who are stacked in BRF gear though although if they stagger mythic ilvl increase then it won't affect many for a while | ||
nikj
Canada669 Posts
On March 15 2015 10:14 Drazerk wrote: Its massive for those of us who are stacked in BRF gear though although if they stagger mythic ilvl increase then it won't affect many for a while Yea I have 9 pieces that will go up 5 ilvls pretty big boost for me. | ||
bo1b
Australia12814 Posts
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las91
United States5080 Posts
On March 15 2015 11:11 bo1b wrote: Wonder how sims will look now. Dunno why sims would change that much, and they aren't 100% representative of what classes/specs do well in BRF anyway. | ||
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Teoita
Italy12246 Posts
It also depends strongly on the class, i was looking through the Destro APL to figure a few things out the other day and that thing is a fucking mess that gives the wierdest results, from Dark Soul glyph being a DPS loss for CR even on 10 minute fights, to Shadowburn having terrible casting logic and actually being a dps loss unless you just burn whatever embers you have left at the end of the fight, in which case it's a ~300 dps gain in 680 gear. | ||
Spicy_Curry
United States10573 Posts
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Drazerk
United Kingdom31255 Posts
On March 15 2015 20:34 Spicy_Curry wrote: Wow that means I will have some pieces that are 706 ilvl wtf they're delaying the mythic tweaking apparently | ||
bo1b
Australia12814 Posts
On March 15 2015 19:21 Teoita wrote: Yeah sims are more useful to study a single character or spec, more than anything else. It also depends strongly on the class, i was looking through the Destro APL to figure a few things out the other day and that thing is a fucking mess that gives the wierdest results, from Dark Soul glyph being a DPS loss for CR even on 10 minute fights, to Shadowburn having terrible casting logic and actually being a dps loss unless you just burn whatever embers you have left at the end of the fight, in which case it's a ~300 dps gain in 680 gear. Dark soul glyph is fairly straight forward if you think about it, shadowburn actually requires a shit ton of mastery to be a dps gain over casting chaos bolt, particularly at lower ilvls. As for dark soul glyph unless there is a rotation that happens frequently a la demon bolt you end up having less time with the buff up relative to not having the glyph due to archimondes darkness. ie. with the glyph archimonds darkness is 10 secs of darksoul, without the glyph its 20. | ||
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Teoita
Italy12246 Posts
The problem with Shadowburn isn't mastery at all (CB and Shadowburn are affected equally by mastery anyway), it's that if you do Shadowburn without CR you just run oom. My guess of what's going on is that if you run CR, you do have the mana to SB, leaving you more time to cast extra Incinerates. However ember builders with CR hit like a wet noodle, so you'd probably rather spend your time casting Chaos Bolt than SB+Inc. Of course as usual this assumes no movement, on movement fights a spec as immobile as CR should probably just be happy to be able to cast anything at all. | ||
caelym
United States6421 Posts
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Drazerk
United Kingdom31255 Posts
On March 16 2015 03:17 caelym wrote: crap... I just realized I DE-ed a 680 staff several weeks ago because it was worse than my hm mythic one hander + offhand. and I've already used my item restoration for this month, fml. page a gm and explain will probably restore it | ||
bo1b
Australia12814 Posts
On March 16 2015 01:02 Teoita wrote: That's why i was simming the default (bis) 680 gear, and also tried simming Gosac/CR in BiS mythic gear. Still a dps loss, for both. CR plays kind of like DB with all the extra embers, so you'd think it would be useful for that spec, but it turns out it really isn't. The change in uptime isn't relative to Archimonde's Darkness either, it's the same exact thing with glyph of Arcane Power for mages (only in our case, we generally do want the glyph because it does the opposite of DS glyph). Uptime is either the same, or reduced by 10 seconds (15 for mages) depending on the kill time. In some cases the extra burst is worth it (Demonbolt, supposedly also CR but really, no), in others it isn't (some mage specs). The problem with Shadowburn isn't mastery at all (CB and Shadowburn are affected equally by mastery anyway), it's that if you do Shadowburn without CR you just run oom. My guess of what's going on is that if you run CR, you do have the mana to SB, leaving you more time to cast extra Incinerates. However ember builders with CR hit like a wet noodle, so you'd probably rather spend your time casting Chaos Bolt than SB+Inc. Of course as usual this assumes no movement, on movement fights a spec as immobile as CR should probably just be happy to be able to cast anything at all. Dark soul glyph would be the same as arcane power glyph if archimondes darkness wasn't a thing. | ||
Bourneq
Sweden800 Posts
On March 15 2015 03:49 Drazerk wrote: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/16646354646?page=3#42 new post Yay now I dont have to feel terrible about getting my set bonus but loosing 5ilvl from mythic highmaul chest. | ||
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KadaverBB
Germany25657 Posts
Raiding Wednesday and Sunday and usually a third day that rotates around. German timezone obviously^^ | ||
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Teoita
Italy12246 Posts
On March 16 2015 09:23 bo1b wrote: Dark soul glyph would be the same as arcane power glyph if archimondes darkness wasn't a thing. Not really; as they do the complete opposite things (AP glyph doubles duration and CD, Dark Soul reduces it). The shorter CD is supposedly preferable, or at least DPS neutral, if you can line it up with something else for huge burst, like Prismatic Crystal. You'd expect that CR would behave in the same exact way (dps increase or neutral because so many Chaos Bolts can benefit from Dark Soul), which is why im surprised that it's simming as a really big (~800-1k depending on gear) dps loss. | ||
Cyro
United Kingdom20318 Posts
On March 16 2015 17:19 KadaverBB wrote: My guild is looking for a tank btw, if anyone is interested. Raiding Wednesday and Sunday and usually a third day that rotates around. German timezone obviously^^ What server, faction and difficulty level? | ||
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