EPTPlus WoD actually has me excited for once, moreso than I have been since the release of Wrath, AND I get to run MC again without having to get on Feenix.
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deth2munkies
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Plus WoD actually has me excited for once, moreso than I have been since the release of Wrath, AND I get to run MC again without having to get on Feenix. | ||
micronesia
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deth2munkies
United States4051 Posts
On August 24 2014 00:28 micronesia wrote: I plan to play wod at release. Also, I can add you Quane as an officer from my other toons. Will try to get on this evening. Just promote one of my alts, I think I still have a couple in the guilds (all of their names start with FuntimeX), gonna head to Target to grab a game card later today. | ||
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FFW_Rude
France10201 Posts
I copied my toon. Worked this time. Spawned in orgi. Now i need to find how to go back to the garison and do the quest :p | ||
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On August 24 2014 00:28 micronesia wrote: I plan to play wod at release. Also, I can add you Quane as an officer from my other toons. Will try to get on this evening. There's no reason for me to be an officer. I said that just in case you wanted your new Mage to be invited into the guild, but since you're not going to play until WoD, it doesn't really matter. Also, Raka is still the GM, so I can pm him. Btw, my b-tag is Quane#1223 now. There's a good chance I'll be transferring either my Spriest or Mage depending on raid spot availability in some guilds that I'm currently investigating. | ||
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Arnstein
Norway3381 Posts
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micronesia
United States24690 Posts
My biggest fear is that, for the WOD release, there will be a big push on these forums for a horde guild on an American server, and I have to start shelling out $$$ again to bring my toons over :< edit; btw did they increase the number of times items can be upgraded in mop? I thought it used to be twice, for a total of 8 additional ilvls, but it seems like a couple of items I just got on my mage are 0/4 for ilvl upgrades... | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands21712 Posts
On August 24 2014 21:32 micronesia wrote: Well at the moment my plan is to keep this alliance guild (pony express on cenarius) in place so that when WOD is coming out people from TL who want to can join the guild. Those who have another guild can still do virtually everything with us short of cross-faction raiding. My biggest fear is that, for the WOD release, there will be a big push on these forums for a horde guild on an American server, and I have to start shelling out $$$ again to bring my toons over :< edit; btw did they increase the number of times items can be upgraded in mop? I thought it used to be twice, for a total of 8 additional ilvls, but it seems like a couple of items I just got on my mage are 0/4 for ilvl upgrades... Yeah they upped it to 4 a while ago. Its the new way of "nerfing" raids to allow groups who are stuck to proceed. | ||
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micronesia
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micronesia
United States24690 Posts
Is it always warforged when it drops from Ordos? Mine says warforged. | ||
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DCRed
Finland435 Posts
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On August 24 2014 21:32 micronesia wrote: My biggest fear is that, for the WOD release, there will be a big push on these forums for a horde guild on an American server, and I have to start shelling out $$$ again to bring my toons over :< I doubt that's going to happen, because the only two things (well, three, if you count the region divide) that can't be done cross-realm now are cross-faction raiding and Mythic. I think most of us by now have learned the lesson of TL guilds, at least when it comes to serious progression, and I don't think anyone seriously expects TL to be able to form a solid 20+ man roster for Mythic on either US or EU. There's also no need to go Horde if we're not going to do Mythic -- what's the point? It's not like the overwhelming majority of TL users are Horde-only, and many of us have toons on both sides. If anything, we'll just add each other on B-tag and form challenge mode, PvP, or just normal difficulty raid groups. | ||
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Serejai
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Grettin
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On August 25 2014 23:09 Serejai wrote: So Tom Chilton just claimed that Garrisons = player housing in an interview. I don't know whether to flip my desk or face palm. ...And? | ||
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Serejai
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And Garrisons are not even close to what player housing actually is. Players have been asking for player housing since TBC and Blizzard has kept saying over the years it's something they wanted to add, but now that they are simply branding Garrisons as such it looks like player housing won't ever actually make it into the game. As someone who wanted player housing it's quite depressing to see that Blizzard doesn't actually understand what player housing actually is. | ||
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Grettin
42381 Posts
On August 25 2014 23:15 Serejai wrote: And Garrisons are not even close to what player housing actually is. Players have been asking for player housing since TBC and Blizzard has kept saying over the years it's something they wanted to add, but now that they are simply branding Garrisons as such it looks like player housing won't ever actually make it into the game. As someone who wanted player housing it's quite depressing to see that Blizzard doesn't actually understand what player housing actually is. Gotcha. So tell me what 'player housing' is then? i got no idea. Garrison stuff looks interesting to me at least (to some extent..), so i'm wondering what would be different. | ||
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Serejai
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On August 25 2014 23:18 Grettin wrote: Gotcha. So tell me what 'player housing' is then? i got no idea. Garrison stuff looks interesting to me at least (to some extent..), so i'm wondering what would be different. Well, "player housing" is pretty much a roleplaying element. It's an instanced house that you purchase, and then you can decorate it with furniture, plants, trophies, etc. Guild halls are also player housing, but for guilds (and usually much bigger). They're for socializing more than decorating. Basically "player housing" is more than just the actual house, as it requires other features to be added to the game. You generally need tradeskills/professions to handle housing stuff; there's no woodworking in WoW so you would probably need a new profession for furniture making. Things like lights could be make with Blacksmithing, plants could be crafted by Herbalists, etc. Then you have things to display, such as books or trophies. Usually books just contain extra lore about the world, while trophies would basically be a physical way to display your achievements. Essentially player housing is a roleplayers wet dream. Personally i'm not in to roleplaying, but a) I feel it should be a noticeable part of a "Role Playing Game", in which WoW currently falls very, very short, and b) I love all the extra business opportunities it adds. Think of how many people buy mounts and pets... and now imagine all of them buying hundreds of things for their house. $$$, both in-game and IRL for Blizzard. Garrisons don't really fit the definition at all other than that they are instanced, but in that case you may as well say the Tiller's Farm is player housing as well. You could do a Google image search for some screenshots... but player housing ranges from just interior decorating to being able to actually buy a plot of land and design your own house from the ground up. | ||
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Grettin
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I do agree that your version of player housing sounds something it should be. | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands21712 Posts
It will take a major amount of commitment and manpower to get real player housing in at the the level of quality of a Blizzard game. Not unlike what we have in WoD with Garrisons (but im fairly sure it would take another such amount of effort to make garrisons into actual player housing as described by Serejai). Now consider that when it comes to features this will eat up a lot. If you take Garrisons out of WoD your left with very little which is why Blizzard entwined Garrisons so heavily into the overall game and leveling experience. Now there is certainly a vocal minority who wants player housing but is that group large enough to be worth spending an entire expansion's resources on? I say no. Now perhaps Garrisons is just a prelude and they keep adding on and building bits on to it that will allow it to transition into actual player housing over several expansions without it costing major resources in one go but that is something we will have to wait and see on. | ||
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DCRed
Finland435 Posts
On August 25 2014 23:31 Serejai wrote: Well, "player housing" is pretty much a roleplaying element. It's an instanced house that you purchase, and then you can decorate it with furniture, plants, trophies, etc. Guild halls are also player housing, but for guilds (and usually much bigger). They're for socializing more than decorating. So that's what garrisons more or less are? Pretty sure I can display my archeology findings in there, favourite mounts etc. To me player housing isn't some instanced place where people see it only if you invite them. UO had it nailed down when it came to player housing but doing non instanced one in WoW would be pretty hard and Blizzard knows it, it's why they haven't even tried to do anything until now because they didn't have any ideas how to make it work. Are garrisons the perfect player housing replacement? No and I'm not that interested about them either and don't like them being pretty much necessary thing to do. | ||
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