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SixStrings
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
Germany2046 Posts
August 22 2014 16:18 GMT
#2801
Did they change anything in regard to how much fury you generate via incoming damage?

I've just upgraded to MoP, tanked deadmines, had half the instance beating me off and didn't generate any fury at all.
Is there something wrong with the formula on lower levels? Also my auto hits didn't do anything in that regard, it was the least fun I had playing a Warrior ever.
deth2munkies
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4051 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-22 16:20:40
August 22 2014 16:20 GMT
#2802
On August 23 2014 01:18 SixStrings wrote:
Did they change anything in regard to how much fury you generate via incoming damage?

I've just upgraded to MoP, tanked deadmines, had half the instance beating me off and didn't generate any fury at all.
Is there something wrong with the formula on lower levels? Also my auto hits didn't do anything in that regard, it was the least fun I had playing a Warrior ever.


0 fury generated from damage taken unless in Berserker Stance. Fury generation nowadays is basic attacks and certain abilities (Mortal Strike, Bloodthirst, Shield Slam. Revenge).
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22311 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-22 16:23:34
August 22 2014 16:20 GMT
#2803
On August 23 2014 01:18 SixStrings wrote:
Did they change anything in regard to how much fury you generate via incoming damage?

I've just upgraded to MoP, tanked deadmines, had half the instance beating me off and didn't generate any fury at all.
Is there something wrong with the formula on lower levels? Also my auto hits didn't do anything in that regard, it was the least fun I had playing a Warrior ever.

Their is no rage gain from taking damage. They. right, believe you should not be punished for doing a really good job avoiding damage.
Same reason vengeance is getting reworked in WoD.
Same thing with auto hits. they do not generate rage. Read your abilities. Some give rage, others spend it.
A lot has changed for warrior rage gen since you last played.

Outside of Beserker stance yes, forgot about that since i normaly play prot :p
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Crownlol
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States3726 Posts
August 22 2014 16:21 GMT
#2804
On August 21 2014 07:15 Gorsameth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2014 07:11 Serejai wrote:
On August 21 2014 07:09 Gorsameth wrote:
On August 21 2014 07:07 deth2munkies wrote:
I will never forget the time when I actually beat one of those mages in a 1v1 on the side of WSG. He was full T2, name was February on Malygos. Survived the Pyro/Fireblast with like 200 HP, healthstone'd up, spell locked the next cast (arcane missiles), feared, dotted, drained to death. Was glorious since that mage, Belise, and Zeppelin all ran together and all ran oneshot spec and everyone dreaded hitting their group.

Again, back in the days of early WSG, you got to know everyone's name pretty quick

My proudest AV moment was the first time I one shotted a priest as a warrior with sword spec. A good old times, glad there gone now :p



What are you talking about? Warriors can still oneshot clothies :S

...and Hunters
...and Shamans
...and Warlocks
...and Paladins

Shows you how long ago its been that I did or watched any pvp :p


They can't *really*. If they stack all their cooldowns and the enemy just miraculously doesn't move away, they can do serious damage with ms/cs/slam spam
shaGuar :: elemeNt :: XeqtR :: naikon :: method
SixStrings
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
Germany2046 Posts
August 22 2014 16:23 GMT
#2805
On August 23 2014 01:20 deth2munkies wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2014 01:18 SixStrings wrote:
Did they change anything in regard to how much fury you generate via incoming damage?

I've just upgraded to MoP, tanked deadmines, had half the instance beating me off and didn't generate any fury at all.
Is there something wrong with the formula on lower levels? Also my auto hits didn't do anything in that regard, it was the least fun I had playing a Warrior ever.


0 fury generated from damage taken unless in Berserker Stance. Fury generation nowadays is basic attacks and certain abilities (Mortal Strike, Bloodthirst, Shield Slam. Revenge).


I'm sorry, but that's shit. I loved having more tools at my disposal when tanking larger groups, that was the one thing that made me like the warrior over Paladin or DK tanks...
Ayaz2810
Profile Joined September 2011
United States2763 Posts
August 22 2014 16:28 GMT
#2806
Yeah my pally seems dull. Avengers, hammer/cs, consecrate, judge. That's what? 4 abilities =\ bleh
Vrtra Vanquisher/Tiamat Trouncer/World Serpent Slayer
EchOne
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States2906 Posts
August 22 2014 16:50 GMT
#2807
Dungeons, even at 90, are a poor gauge of how a tanking class actually works. Deadmines even more so. They're just too easy, so you don't need to use everything. Consider the pally: in addition to the abilities Ayaz mentioned, he has Holy Wrath, Lv90 talent, 2 active survival abilities, HoP, and 7 cooldowns. You don't really need any of that in dungeons.
面白くない世の中, 面白くすればいいさ
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
August 22 2014 16:55 GMT
#2808
On August 23 2014 01:28 Ayaz2810 wrote:
Yeah my pally seems dull. Avengers, hammer/cs, consecrate, judge. That's what? 4 abilities =\ bleh

Shield of the Righteous, Word of Glory/Eternal Flame, Hammer of Wrath, the top tier talent ability (Execution Sentence, Prism, or Light's Hammer), and then of course Taunts and cooldowns. Ofc, cooldowns not super necessary in 5 mans but in raiding they become vital to know.
It's your boy Guzma!
deth2munkies
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4051 Posts
August 22 2014 18:22 GMT
#2809
On August 23 2014 01:23 SixStrings wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2014 01:20 deth2munkies wrote:
On August 23 2014 01:18 SixStrings wrote:
Did they change anything in regard to how much fury you generate via incoming damage?

I've just upgraded to MoP, tanked deadmines, had half the instance beating me off and didn't generate any fury at all.
Is there something wrong with the formula on lower levels? Also my auto hits didn't do anything in that regard, it was the least fun I had playing a Warrior ever.


0 fury generated from damage taken unless in Berserker Stance. Fury generation nowadays is basic attacks and certain abilities (Mortal Strike, Bloodthirst, Shield Slam. Revenge).


I'm sorry, but that's shit. I loved having more tools at my disposal when tanking larger groups, that was the one thing that made me like the warrior over Paladin or DK tanks...


TBH, you get Revenge procs and Sword and Board procs (Devastate is free and procs them) so often that you virtually have unlimited rage anyway.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22311 Posts
August 22 2014 18:25 GMT
#2810
On August 23 2014 03:22 deth2munkies wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2014 01:23 SixStrings wrote:
On August 23 2014 01:20 deth2munkies wrote:
On August 23 2014 01:18 SixStrings wrote:
Did they change anything in regard to how much fury you generate via incoming damage?

I've just upgraded to MoP, tanked deadmines, had half the instance beating me off and didn't generate any fury at all.
Is there something wrong with the formula on lower levels? Also my auto hits didn't do anything in that regard, it was the least fun I had playing a Warrior ever.


0 fury generated from damage taken unless in Berserker Stance. Fury generation nowadays is basic attacks and certain abilities (Mortal Strike, Bloodthirst, Shield Slam. Revenge).


I'm sorry, but that's shit. I loved having more tools at my disposal when tanking larger groups, that was the one thing that made me like the warrior over Paladin or DK tanks...


TBH, you get Revenge procs and Sword and Board procs (Devastate is free and procs them) so often that you virtually have unlimited rage anyway.

sshhh your interrupting his baseless qq.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
August 22 2014 18:46 GMT
#2811
On August 23 2014 03:25 Gorsameth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2014 03:22 deth2munkies wrote:
On August 23 2014 01:23 SixStrings wrote:
On August 23 2014 01:20 deth2munkies wrote:
On August 23 2014 01:18 SixStrings wrote:
Did they change anything in regard to how much fury you generate via incoming damage?

I've just upgraded to MoP, tanked deadmines, had half the instance beating me off and didn't generate any fury at all.
Is there something wrong with the formula on lower levels? Also my auto hits didn't do anything in that regard, it was the least fun I had playing a Warrior ever.


0 fury generated from damage taken unless in Berserker Stance. Fury generation nowadays is basic attacks and certain abilities (Mortal Strike, Bloodthirst, Shield Slam. Revenge).


I'm sorry, but that's shit. I loved having more tools at my disposal when tanking larger groups, that was the one thing that made me like the warrior over Paladin or DK tanks...


TBH, you get Revenge procs and Sword and Board procs (Devastate is free and procs them) so often that you virtually have unlimited rage anyway.

sshhh your interrupting his baseless qq.

Unlimted rage actually sounds very much like a reason to qq, although idk anything about warrior.
Off-season = best season
Ayaz2810
Profile Joined September 2011
United States2763 Posts
August 22 2014 18:55 GMT
#2812
Yeah I guess I should shut my trap until I'm 90. I forgot that I would be getting more abilities. I still don't get when to use wog over sotr in 5 mans though. Seems like when I'm in need of heals, I go to use wog and get instantly healed to full by the healer. Stresses me out being low on HP lol
Vrtra Vanquisher/Tiamat Trouncer/World Serpent Slayer
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22311 Posts
August 22 2014 19:02 GMT
#2813
On August 23 2014 03:46 Redox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2014 03:25 Gorsameth wrote:
On August 23 2014 03:22 deth2munkies wrote:
On August 23 2014 01:23 SixStrings wrote:
On August 23 2014 01:20 deth2munkies wrote:
On August 23 2014 01:18 SixStrings wrote:
Did they change anything in regard to how much fury you generate via incoming damage?

I've just upgraded to MoP, tanked deadmines, had half the instance beating me off and didn't generate any fury at all.
Is there something wrong with the formula on lower levels? Also my auto hits didn't do anything in that regard, it was the least fun I had playing a Warrior ever.


0 fury generated from damage taken unless in Berserker Stance. Fury generation nowadays is basic attacks and certain abilities (Mortal Strike, Bloodthirst, Shield Slam. Revenge).


I'm sorry, but that's shit. I loved having more tools at my disposal when tanking larger groups, that was the one thing that made me like the warrior over Paladin or DK tanks...


TBH, you get Revenge procs and Sword and Board procs (Devastate is free and procs them) so often that you virtually have unlimited rage anyway.

sshhh your interrupting his baseless qq.

Unlimted rage actually sounds very much like a reason to qq, although idk anything about warrior.

its no unlimited by any means.
SixStrings whined about not getting rage from being hit because it didnt make him zomgwtfbbq when tanking a lot of mobs to which Deth2munkie told him he is wrong since multiple mobs = more revenge procs = more rage.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
August 22 2014 19:13 GMT
#2814
Ugh there's so much to do at 90 and I don't have enough time for it all lol. I want to run dungeons/LFR to see the content, but at the same time I want to do my dailies to get mounts/gear/etc, and I also want to quest in the other zones that I didn't see while leveling... and then I want to level alts... ugh.
It's your boy Guzma!
Thermia
Profile Joined August 2010
United States866 Posts
August 23 2014 08:01 GMT
#2815
Am I a masochist for trying to arena with a friend on fresh 90 timeless geared characters for conq points? I feel like neither of us do any damage at all and just get instagibbed by anything with more than 450k hp, let alone people rocking full prideful. I think we managed to sink all the way to like 700 mmr before we started running into some people running around naked giving freewins.
Sufficiently advanced stupidity is indistinguishable from trolling. IGN: Mierin
deth2munkies
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4051 Posts
August 23 2014 12:13 GMT
#2816
On August 23 2014 17:01 Thermia wrote:
Am I a masochist for trying to arena with a friend on fresh 90 timeless geared characters for conq points? I feel like neither of us do any damage at all and just get instagibbed by anything with more than 450k hp, let alone people rocking full prideful. I think we managed to sink all the way to like 700 mmr before we started running into some people running around naked giving freewins.


Daily battlegrounds can almost cap you on conq IIRC. Nobody really cares about what your gear is in those.
Qaatar
Profile Joined January 2011
1409 Posts
August 23 2014 13:41 GMT
#2817
On August 23 2014 21:13 deth2munkies wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2014 17:01 Thermia wrote:
Am I a masochist for trying to arena with a friend on fresh 90 timeless geared characters for conq points? I feel like neither of us do any damage at all and just get instagibbed by anything with more than 450k hp, let alone people rocking full prideful. I think we managed to sink all the way to like 700 mmr before we started running into some people running around naked giving freewins.


Daily battlegrounds can almost cap you on conq IIRC. Nobody really cares about what your gear is in those.


They give you 75 conq after the first, and BG's are much slower to both queue for and play. I'd say tanking arena (although you have to do this 'manually' now and can't auto-leave) is still the fastest by far.

Of course, other way would be to farm those honor mobs in Krasarang, and get some 522 pieces first. Then you might stand a chance to win more arenas. Fastest way is if you have acquaintances on other servers to invite you, and just camp that area.
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24771 Posts
August 23 2014 14:16 GMT
#2818
I ordered WOD from bnet and boosted a mage so I can be cool like Qaatar. Teleport is hax.
ModeratorThere are animal crackers for people and there are people crackers for animals.
Qaatar
Profile Joined January 2011
1409 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-23 14:47:13
August 23 2014 14:46 GMT
#2819
You still planning to play on Cenarius? I recently started playing again, but within the guild I'm pretty much the only person active.

Edit: also not an officer, so I can't invite you for guild perks. Raka still plays though.
Crownlol
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States3726 Posts
August 23 2014 14:46 GMT
#2820
On August 23 2014 17:01 Thermia wrote:
Am I a masochist for trying to arena with a friend on fresh 90 timeless geared characters for conq points? I feel like neither of us do any damage at all and just get instagibbed by anything with more than 450k hp, let alone people rocking full prideful. I think we managed to sink all the way to like 700 mmr before we started running into some people running around naked giving freewins.


Absolutely you are a masochist. Gear with battlegrounds first.
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