EPTNBA Offseason 2012 - Page 9
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Holcan
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TieN.nS)
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Ace
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RowdierBob
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And yeah, Nets would need a massive S&T now if they wanted to get Dwight. Dallas might have to wait until next year if they want to get Deron too. | ||
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RowdierBob
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On July 03 2012 09:58 Holcan wrote: as bad as the nets move was, atlanta moved marvin williams and joe johnson for a bunch if talent + devin harris. easily the best moves of a gm so far. Talent is debateable, but the expirings will be a huge asset for them. | ||
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Ace
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TieN.nS)
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On July 03 2012 10:08 RowdierBob wrote: Does anyone actually approve of the JJ deal (apart from Hawks fans!)?! It's mind boggling anyone would want to go near that JJ albatross of a contract. And yeah, Nets would need a massive S&T now if they wanted to get Dwight. Dallas might have to wait until next year if they want to get Deron too. I don't think that any basketball fan thinks JJ deserves to be paid $25M at ANY point in his career, let alone when he's 35 years old. | ||
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DoomsVille
Canada4885 Posts
On July 03 2012 09:19 a176 wrote: http://www.sheridanhoops.com/2012/07/02/nets-looking-at-big-three-of-d-will-dwight-and-joe-johnson/ That is almost physically impossible. JJ/dwight are owed just under 20 mill each next season. No doubt they're looking at paying dwill the max salary (most likely) of 17.5 mill (assuming the cap stays roughly the same). That literally makes up 100% of the salary cap on 3 players lol. And more than that, they only have 4-5 players signed after all of the trades go through (assuming they land both dwight/jj). So they will need to fill their roster before re-signing dwill (and then sign him after using his bird rights) to get above the salary cap. They'll end up being at least 7-10 mill above the salary cap assuming they sign complete scrubs to fill the remaining roster slots. More than likely they're looking at signing a bunch of guys with only a few years experience for relatively cheap (< 1 million). In comparison, Miami's big 3 command 15 million their first season (each). And get a steady raise each year after. The net wills be paying 58 mill to their big 3 and each will also get a steady raise each year (presumably, I guess that isn't a necessity). When the new luxury tax rules kick in, the Nets are going to be being like 50 million dollars in luxury tax lol (very very very rough estimate). | ||
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Southlight
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DoomsVille
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On July 03 2012 10:08 Ace wrote: If the Mavs ended up signing D-Will and Dwight...lmao. I swear to god Billy King would have to be fired right? Doubt it. He must be getting the go ahead. Also, some conflicting reports on the JJ trade. Some outlets are still reporting that it is contingent on dwill agreeing to resign with the Nets. To be honest, I don't think there is any chance in hell the Nets go through with the trade without a verbal commitment from dwill. They either already have something from dwill or they won't pull the trigger until they do. | ||
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Holcan
Canada2593 Posts
On July 03 2012 10:08 RowdierBob wrote: Talent is debateable, but the expirings will be a huge asset for them. they got a shooter a defender and two quality back up pgs, its not overwhelming talent, but they were looking to shed contracts so any talent is worth it. | ||
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TieN.nS)
United States2131 Posts
On July 03 2012 10:18 Holcan wrote: they got a shooter a defender and two quality back up pgs, its not overwhelming talent, but they were looking to shed contracts so any talent is worth it. Let's not kid ourselves here, they'd probably have preferred not getting talent so they could be guaranteed a high lottery pick to go along with that cap space. :p | ||
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Ace
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Zorkmid
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Holcan
Canada2593 Posts
On July 03 2012 10:20 TieN.nS) wrote: Let's not kid ourselves here, they'd probably have preferred not getting talent so they could be guaranteed a high lottery pick to go along with that cap space. :p I doubt they will bottom out unless smith walks, teague, smith and horford are at least par with the east 8 seed. | ||
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Jaaaaasper
United States10225 Posts
On July 03 2012 10:22 Zorkmid wrote: I'll buy seasons tickets again if the Raptors get Nash. hell i might visit family in the area to see a game or two, i haven't seen nash live before, might be cool. Besides boston fans are annoying at times Also off topic, watching d league. games is kind of cool, nice to see players who haven't been jaded by 7 or 8 figures per year play ball, i go to more red claw games than celtic games at this point (cheaper as well) | ||
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RowdierBob
Australia13296 Posts
On July 03 2012 10:21 Ace wrote: If the Nets did what Sheridan is proposing they would be a first round casualty. A core of Howard-Williams-Johnson would get absolutely crushed unless they found some amazing role players. Yeah it'd depend on the players they could surround them with, but they'd still be better than first round fodder IMO. With Dwight in the middle they'll be a solid defensive team and their offense would be pretty sick. It's just that they'd be spending their whole cap on three players... So they're either going to take a lot of lux tax or they're gonna have really crappy role players. Any core of Deron/Howard is going to be strong. Depending on moves in the East before the season starts, I'd only have Miami and Boston ahead of them as clear favourites (this is very contingent on moves teams make... Like Indy with Hibbert and Gordon, Philly, Knicks). With Rose out of the picture I think Miami and Boston are a long way ahead of the teams in the East. I can see the Nets being just as competitive as the Knicks, Philly, Hawks, Magic, Bucks, Wiz, Cavs, Raps. East is still very weak so if the Nets could actually get that core together they'd be one of the stronger teams. | ||
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slyboogie
United States3423 Posts
On July 03 2012 10:48 RowdierBob wrote: Yeah it'd depend on the players they could surround them with, but they'd still be better than first round fodder IMO. With Dwight in the middle they'll be a solid defensive team and their offense would be pretty sick. It's just that they'd be spending their whole cap on three players... So they're either going to take a lot of lux tax or they're gonna have really crappy role players. Any core of Deron/Howard is going to be strong. Depending on moves in the East before the season starts, I'd only have Miami and Boston ahead of them as clear favourites (this is very contingent on moves teams make... Like Indy with Hibbert and Gordon, Philly, Knicks). With Rose out of the picture I think Miami and Boston are a long way ahead of the teams in the East. I can see the Nets being just as competitive as the Knicks, Philly, Hawks, Magic, Bucks, Wiz, Cavs, Raps. East is still very weak so if the Nets could actually get that core together they'd be one of the stronger teams. Serious, I know Ace doesn't like Dwight very much but that team would get to the second round with slightly above replacement players at 6-12 and slightly below average players at 4 and 5. After that? Probably not. | ||
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Ace
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XaI)CyRiC
United States4471 Posts
The rumored plan to get Deron, JJ and Dwight on the Nets sounds like a ridiculous gamble for the reasons already stated by others. It'd basically be a get-your-big-3-and-figure-out-the-rest-later all-in type of strategy, in which its success would depend on so much luck/chance in finding FAs. Briefly glancing at that wonderful, time-consuming FA list on the first page (yes, that's a self-pat on the back) and a few other sources, they could maybe get a roster something like: PG: Deron, Delonte/Baron/Arenas SG: JJ, Anthony Parker/Redd SF: Gerald Green/Josh Howard/T-Mac/Moon PF: Sheldon Williams/Amundson/Brian Cook/Jared Jeffries C: D12, Thabeet/Haddadi/Fesenko Yeah... not looking pretty. | ||
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