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XaI)CyRiC
Profile Joined October 2002
United States4471 Posts
June 29 2012 23:33 GMT
#1
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XaI)CyRiC
Profile Joined October 2002
United States4471 Posts
June 29 2012 23:37 GMT
#2
Looks like the Mo Will and Odom deal involving LAC, DAL and UTA is going to happen. Thoughts?

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/221892/Mo_Williams_Agrees_To_Trade_To_Jazz
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P7GAB
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada486 Posts
June 29 2012 23:40 GMT
#3
anyone know if the raptors drafted a good player?
slyboogie
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3423 Posts
June 29 2012 23:45 GMT
#4
Provided we get some back court depth - aka, replacing Nick Young and Randy Foye with more than just Eric Bledsoe, this is a fine trade. Odom's only getting 8million for next year, I think, and it may even be non-guaranteed (have to check,) so the contract doesn't bother me. He really is a bit of a headcase but he has had a really tough life. I think he was on the Clippers when his son passed away from SIDS, that was pretty sad. Anyways, I'd be glad to have him back on the team.

Dunno what the Jazz really want with Mo but I suppose I should thank them
"We dug coal together." Boyd Crowder, Justified
slyboogie
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3423 Posts
June 29 2012 23:49 GMT
#5
On June 30 2012 08:40 P7GAB wrote:
anyone know if the raptors drafted a good player?


John Henson and Doron Lamb.

Henson is a UNC Junior, a bean-pole sort of player. I don't know why they took him, exactly, they have Larry Sanders and Ekpe Udoh already. But he's NBA ready and was definitely projected to be a lottery player. Don't look for him to be a star but he's a contributer.

Doron Lamb played guard on Kentucky in the back court with Marquis Teague. He's a bit of a gunner with a nice shot but his lack of wingspan and middling athleticism will make it tough for him. His career will go where his jumpshot takes it.
"We dug coal together." Boyd Crowder, Justified
BloodNinja
Profile Joined June 2010
United States2791 Posts
June 29 2012 23:52 GMT
#6
Yay! The Wizards got Beal! I figured that somehow that wasnt going to happen. Either from someone trading up or the Wizards durping with their pick.
ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
June 30 2012 00:02 GMT
#7
Anything about Allen coming to Miami? My boss says that wade will get the boot, but he's talking shit imo.
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Qaatar
Profile Joined January 2011
1409 Posts
June 30 2012 00:12 GMT
#8
If there's one guy who will stay a Heat player for the rest of his career, it'll be Wade. Riley will trade LBJ before he dares to trade Wade.
ecstatica
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States542 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-30 00:31:27
June 30 2012 00:12 GMT
#9
Still so sickened by the fact that we didn't get White

Why didn't they trade up? We had 3 picks, not 2 ffs. Plus stiffs from last year are still on the team. Cant believe Ainge couldnt work with 21st and 22nd picks.

At least Sullinger kid should be game ready, I hope his back won't fall apart

They just made an offer to Stiemsma, I know it could be a preventive measure only but why the fuck do they need all these big men? I'd take Steamer over all these rooks so why draft Fab Melo in the first place?
NeMeSiS3, Portlandian, Reason,
ecstatica
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States542 Posts
June 30 2012 00:14 GMT
#10
On June 30 2012 09:02 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Anything about Allen coming to Miami? My boss says that wade will get the boot, but he's talking shit imo.


Fans in Miami always knowledgeable
NeMeSiS3, Portlandian, Reason,
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
June 30 2012 00:22 GMT
#11
I actually had a dream LBJ got traded back to the cavs. Although everyone knows the whole city would take him back in an instant if they could.
rebdomine
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
6040 Posts
June 30 2012 00:35 GMT
#12
Gah, another year of disappointment as a Rockets fan.

Really wish we'd stop being stuck at picking 14th. But the way the roster stands, we'll be picking 14th again next year.

Oh, and about the trade assets. We pretty much lost all leverage because we have like 8 PFs on the roster. Everyone knows the Rockets have to trade people, so other GMs are gonna start lowballing.
"Just because you are correct doesn't mean you are right!"
wussleeQ
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States3130 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-30 00:47:28
June 30 2012 00:44 GMT
#13
On June 30 2012 08:37 XaI)CyRiC wrote:
Looks like the Mo Will and Odom deal involving LAC, DAL and UTA is going to happen. Thoughts?

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/221892/Mo_Williams_Agrees_To_Trade_To_Jazz

Really don't like Odom as a clipper fan. He was just horrible last year and seems INCREDIBLY IMMATURE... but getting rid of the roadblock at PG was okay.
BW -> League -> CSGO
Holcan
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2593 Posts
June 30 2012 01:23 GMT
#14
On June 30 2012 08:49 slyboogie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2012 08:40 P7GAB wrote:
anyone know if the raptors drafted a good player?


John Henson and Doron Lamb.

Henson is a UNC Junior, a bean-pole sort of player. I don't know why they took him, exactly, they have Larry Sanders and Ekpe Udoh already. But he's NBA ready and was definitely projected to be a lottery player. Don't look for him to be a star but he's a contributer.

Doron Lamb played guard on Kentucky in the back court with Marquis Teague. He's a bit of a gunner with a nice shot but his lack of wingspan and middling athleticism will make it tough for him. His career will go where his jumpshot takes it.

He said the Raptors xD you explained the bucks ~ :D


To answer his question, No, no they didn't. However its incredibly hard to judge how players will bridge the gap between NCAA and NBA, so he may be worth it. All reports say is that they could've traded down and still got the player, so a bit of a botched pick from that perspective.

Jonas Valaciunas is the real focus for Toronto rookies anyways, if he can produce in the NBA like he did in Lithuania, than he should be competing for ROTY votes, which will ultimately go to an American no doubt, due to the hype machine that is the Brow.
Reference The Inadvertant Joey, Strong talented orchastrasted intelligent character.
Jepsyn
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada364 Posts
June 30 2012 01:26 GMT
#15
I am so confused with Dion Waiters at 4?? Might be the worst high pick since Darko Milicic at 2
"Wonder what this game would be like if protoss units cost money" - IdrA
MassHysteria
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3678 Posts
June 30 2012 01:29 GMT
#16
OJ Mayo an UFA now. Anyone remember when he was supposed to be the next Kobe/MJ out of high school...now he doesn't even get a qualifying offer -_- ...but I would imagine he has no problem with it. He gets to choose where he goes next. Green jersey incoming?
"Just ban all the J's...even jinklejoes" --unnamed source
ecstatica
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States542 Posts
June 30 2012 01:37 GMT
#17
On June 30 2012 10:29 MassHysteria wrote:
OJ Mayo an UFA now. Anyone remember when he was supposed to be the next Kobe/MJ out of high school...now he doesn't even get a qualifying offer -_- ...but I would imagine he has no problem with it. He gets to choose where he goes next. Green jersey incoming?


I only have a small problem with him - he got bitch-slapped by TA. But they say TA is not someone to mess with, Mayo learned it a hard way.

Doc can make him into a decent player for sure, question is - will he produce like one this year?
NeMeSiS3, Portlandian, Reason,
shawster
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada2485 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-30 01:38:33
June 30 2012 01:37 GMT
#18
On June 30 2012 10:26 Jepsyn wrote:
I am so confused with Dion Waiters at 4?? Might be the worst high pick since Darko Milicic at 2


big knee jerk reaction. while 4 might have been a little high waiters was going in the 1st 10 picks no doubt. his position moving from like 30th to 4th is a red flag, however. iunno it just seems really sneaky, but the scouts saw something in him during workouts.

i really wish barnes would've fell to the raptors. imo ross looks like a more consistent pick but less potential. ross averaged something crazy like 27points a game during the NIT tournament, shows you that he can really take over games, something that barnes didn't show he was able to do during the ncaa tourney. that washington team won the pac-12 and didn't make it to the tournament. i think they were the last team shafted, brutal.

interesting how all the baylor guys fell so low haha.

and valanciunas is gonna be HUGE. i'm excited for the raps next year, because it could be the start of something cool or just another,well, raptors season...
MassHysteria
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3678 Posts
June 30 2012 01:47 GMT
#19
On June 30 2012 10:26 Jepsyn wrote:
I am so confused with Dion Waiters at 4?? Might be the worst high pick since Darko Milicic at 2
Even if he does pan out, the real mistake is if CLE didn''t consider trading down some spots to pick up some assets and then still be in a position to draft him. Rumors (or at least the impression his agent gave off) is that he had been guaranteed to be picked by a team in the lottery( he didn't attend any workouts he was invited to) so it would be interesting to see if that is why they didn't pursue that more.

Although it is hard to tell if Waiter's "guaranteed pick" claim was true or not (from outside looking in as we are), we can say that his agent did a great job. He either bluffed and got his client more money, or he told the truth and got his client more money. Well played by him. As for Cleveland, it is too soon to tell if it was well played by them or not. Whether or not, someone was going to take him before their next chance (had they traded down) will not impact his evaluation as a #4-drafted player in a few years down the road.
"Just ban all the J's...even jinklejoes" --unnamed source
slyboogie
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3423 Posts
June 30 2012 01:52 GMT
#20
On June 30 2012 10:23 Holcan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2012 08:49 slyboogie wrote:
On June 30 2012 08:40 P7GAB wrote:
anyone know if the raptors drafted a good player?


John Henson and Doron Lamb.

Henson is a UNC Junior, a bean-pole sort of player. I don't know why they took him, exactly, they have Larry Sanders and Ekpe Udoh already. But he's NBA ready and was definitely projected to be a lottery player. Don't look for him to be a star but he's a contributer.

Doron Lamb played guard on Kentucky in the back court with Marquis Teague. He's a bit of a gunner with a nice shot but his lack of wingspan and middling athleticism will make it tough for him. His career will go where his jumpshot takes it.

He said the Raptors xD you explained the bucks ~ :D


To answer his question, No, no they didn't. However its incredibly hard to judge how players will bridge the gap between NCAA and NBA, so he may be worth it. All reports say is that they could've traded down and still got the player, so a bit of a botched pick from that perspective.

Jonas Valaciunas is the real focus for Toronto rookies anyways, if he can produce in the NBA like he did in Lithuania, than he should be competing for ROTY votes, which will ultimately go to an American no doubt, due to the hype machine that is the Brow.


God, when did I get so stooopid. Anyways, they reached for Terrence Ross, I believe. Athletic and can shoot, not terrible. Holcan's right though...it's all about Valaciunas.
"We dug coal together." Boyd Crowder, Justified
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