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On July 01 2012 03:56 ecstatica wrote:Some can argue this deal is a steal. Some might say it's just fair. Only crazy will think he got overpaid.
It doesn't matter! BOS has to rebuild and with 3yrs/34mio Garnett who is already 36! this won't work that great. BOS has no chance to compete right now and with this Roster they don't have alot of options to get better. No one will trade for Pierce or Garnett with their contracts...
If the Sullinger experiment doesn't work out perfectly BOS is basically fucked for at least the next 3yrs.
btw Deron will meet with DAL/BRO first on monday, so no news tomorrow -_-
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On July 01 2012 04:37 EternalFishY wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2012 04:29 Holcan wrote:On July 01 2012 04:20 EternalFishY wrote:On July 01 2012 04:18 Holcan wrote:
I'm pretty sure the only people who think boston can't contend next year, are idiots. That's a really valid and competent argument. You're really making me reconsider my view on this whole situation. I didn't know I had to watch basketball for you, figured you watched it yourself. my bad, thought this was a discussion forum and not a 1-line butthurt contest. ^am I doing it right?
there's nothing to discuss, if you don't think the celtics are contenders, you are an idiot and should probably watch more basketball. saying shit like kg should focus on development, instead of winning a chip. do you know who kg is? he isn't steve nash, he isn't ray allen, this is kevin garnett, ring or it wasn't a good season.
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KG just turned 36 in May, that's a bit better than 37
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On July 01 2012 04:40 Holcan wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2012 04:37 EternalFishY wrote:On July 01 2012 04:29 Holcan wrote:On July 01 2012 04:20 EternalFishY wrote:On July 01 2012 04:18 Holcan wrote:
I'm pretty sure the only people who think boston can't contend next year, are idiots. That's a really valid and competent argument. You're really making me reconsider my view on this whole situation. I didn't know I had to watch basketball for you, figured you watched it yourself. my bad, thought this was a discussion forum and not a 1-line butthurt contest. ^am I doing it right? there's nothing to discuss, if you don't think the celtics are contenders, you are an idiot and should probably watch more basketball. saying shit like kg should focus on development, instead of winning a chip. do you know who kg is? he isn't steve nash, he isn't ray allen, this is kevin garnett, ring or it wasn't a good season.
just because that IS his mentality, that doesn't mean it's the CORRECT mentality.
Saying that the celtics are contenders "barring a few free agent moves" is like saying "I can beat the Steelers in a game of football, barring I'm playing with the '85 bears"
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On July 01 2012 04:39 Goetzinho ftw wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2012 03:56 ecstatica wrote:On July 01 2012 02:09 Goetzinho ftw wrote:
Celtics overpaid KG so hard, WTF! Some can argue this deal is a steal. Some might say it's just fair. Only crazy will think he got overpaid. It doesn't matter! BOS has to rebuild and with 3yrs/34mio Garnett who is already 36! this won't work that great. BOS has no chance to compete right now and with this Roster they don't have alot of options to get better. No one will trade for Pierce or Garnett with their contracts... If the Sullinger experiment doesn't work out perfectly BOS is basically fucked for at least the next 3yrs. btw Deron will meet with DAL/BRO first on monday, so no news tomorrow -_-
Pierce's contract is done after this season, that's 17 mil. He either resigns for a lot less, probably less than what KG got, which frees up 7 mil in cap, or he bounces and frees up whole 17. There is also 15 mil in cap space this year, which can get you either OJ Mayo or Hibbert or whoever else they like of this caliber, alongside with a few vets (probably resign some guys from this years stint) Given all that the team is in a fantastic shape going forward.
A lot of you forgetting KG played out of position. We had no legitimate center and yet KGs numbers were insane. If he goes back to PF and has someone good at C...
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KG was very very good last season, his new contract is great for Boston.
Now they just need to sign a bunch of FAs that fit well with the team, a Rondo/Bradley/Pierce/KG/Asik would be for example amazing defensively and with 2-3 decent players off the bench, most likely the 2nd best team in the east.
That might not be enough to match Miami's level but depending on injuries, they might have a shot just like they did this season.
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On July 01 2012 04:48 EternalFishY wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2012 04:40 Holcan wrote:On July 01 2012 04:37 EternalFishY wrote:On July 01 2012 04:29 Holcan wrote:On July 01 2012 04:20 EternalFishY wrote:On July 01 2012 04:18 Holcan wrote:
I'm pretty sure the only people who think boston can't contend next year, are idiots. That's a really valid and competent argument. You're really making me reconsider my view on this whole situation. I didn't know I had to watch basketball for you, figured you watched it yourself. my bad, thought this was a discussion forum and not a 1-line butthurt contest. ^am I doing it right? there's nothing to discuss, if you don't think the celtics are contenders, you are an idiot and should probably watch more basketball. saying shit like kg should focus on development, instead of winning a chip. do you know who kg is? he isn't steve nash, he isn't ray allen, this is kevin garnett, ring or it wasn't a good season. just because that IS his mentality, that doesn't mean it's the CORRECT mentality. Saying that the celtics are contenders "barring a few free agent moves" is like saying "I can beat the Steelers in a game of football, barring I'm playing with the '85 bears"
It is the correct mentality, just because its YOUR opinion that it isn't, doesnt mean your opinion isnt IDIOTIC.
The celtics are already the second best team in the east next year, if they sign a few players they are contenders, what is hard to understand?
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There's no way the Bulls won't match an offer for Asik.. I wonder if they will still try to get Roy after getting Teague in the draft, Lucas & Watson are pretty much gone at this point anyway though - same goes for Ronnie Brewer.
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On July 01 2012 05:48 VENDIZ wrote:
There's no way the Bulls won't match an offer for Asik.. I wonder if they will still try to get Roy after getting Teague in the draft, Lucas & Watson are pretty much gone at this point anyway though - same goes for Ronnie Brewer.
We have a lot more money to offer than you do, so you might get to keep Asik, but if we throw him in offer, it won't be for cheap like before.
You don't want Roy. Not this year at least.
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Is he not healthy? Relatively, I mean, since...you know.
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On July 01 2012 05:55 slyboogie wrote:
Is he not healthy? Relatively, I mean, since...you know.
If you are expecting Roy to be who he was, he will never be. He will best be suited coming off the bench for light minutes to give an offensive punch. The bulls are looking for a player who can carry their entire offensive load next year. OJ Mayo would be a much better investment, or wait until Rose is back 100% then make a move for someone like Roy.
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On July 01 2012 05:46 Holcan wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2012 04:48 EternalFishY wrote:On July 01 2012 04:40 Holcan wrote:On July 01 2012 04:37 EternalFishY wrote:On July 01 2012 04:29 Holcan wrote:On July 01 2012 04:20 EternalFishY wrote:On July 01 2012 04:18 Holcan wrote:
I'm pretty sure the only people who think boston can't contend next year, are idiots. That's a really valid and competent argument. You're really making me reconsider my view on this whole situation. I didn't know I had to watch basketball for you, figured you watched it yourself. my bad, thought this was a discussion forum and not a 1-line butthurt contest. ^am I doing it right? there's nothing to discuss, if you don't think the celtics are contenders, you are an idiot and should probably watch more basketball. saying shit like kg should focus on development, instead of winning a chip. do you know who kg is? he isn't steve nash, he isn't ray allen, this is kevin garnett, ring or it wasn't a good season. just because that IS his mentality, that doesn't mean it's the CORRECT mentality. Saying that the celtics are contenders "barring a few free agent moves" is like saying "I can beat the Steelers in a game of football, barring I'm playing with the '85 bears" It is the correct mentality, just because its YOUR opinion that it isn't, doesnt mean your opinion isnt IDIOTIC. The celtics are already the second best team in the east next year, if they sign a few players they are contenders, what is hard to understand?
go to Reddit if you want to be a close minded asshole.
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United States10328 Posts
how are the free agents ranked in OP's list?
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On July 01 2012 06:12 ]343[ wrote:
how are the free agents ranked in OP's list?
I believe they are listed by the top paid player in their last year, down, thats just a guess from looking quickly though.
On July 01 2012 06:00 EternalFishY wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2012 05:46 Holcan wrote:On July 01 2012 04:48 EternalFishY wrote:On July 01 2012 04:40 Holcan wrote:On July 01 2012 04:37 EternalFishY wrote:On July 01 2012 04:29 Holcan wrote:On July 01 2012 04:20 EternalFishY wrote:On July 01 2012 04:18 Holcan wrote:
I'm pretty sure the only people who think boston can't contend next year, are idiots. That's a really valid and competent argument. You're really making me reconsider my view on this whole situation. I didn't know I had to watch basketball for you, figured you watched it yourself. my bad, thought this was a discussion forum and not a 1-line butthurt contest. ^am I doing it right? there's nothing to discuss, if you don't think the celtics are contenders, you are an idiot and should probably watch more basketball. saying shit like kg should focus on development, instead of winning a chip. do you know who kg is? he isn't steve nash, he isn't ray allen, this is kevin garnett, ring or it wasn't a good season. just because that IS his mentality, that doesn't mean it's the CORRECT mentality. Saying that the celtics are contenders "barring a few free agent moves" is like saying "I can beat the Steelers in a game of football, barring I'm playing with the '85 bears" It is the correct mentality, just because its YOUR opinion that it isn't, doesnt mean your opinion isnt IDIOTIC. The celtics are already the second best team in the east next year, if they sign a few players they are contenders, what is hard to understand? go to Reddit if you want to be a close minded asshole.
Sorry, did you want me to hold your hand as you continued to spew retarded shit? We went over this in the last thread, if you come here with no rapport, making blanket statements, be prepared to get insulted for making blanket statements while not having a posting rapport.
"Boston aren't contenders!"
"Garnett should retire/teach"
"Blanket statement about how its my opinion to feel another player is bad !"
If what you posted needed discussion, there would be discussion on it, but what you said was completely idiotic, and thus was regarded as so, sorry if I hurt your feelings, but I honestly don't care if you are butt hurt over what I said, as its nothing outside of my general character when posting in this thread.
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On July 01 2012 05:58 Holcan wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2012 05:55 slyboogie wrote:
Is he not healthy? Relatively, I mean, since...you know. If you are expecting Roy to be who he was, he will never be. He will best be suited coming off the bench for light minutes to give an offensive punch. The bulls are looking for a player who can carry their entire offensive load next year. OJ Mayo would be a much better investment, or wait until Rose is back 100% then make a move for someone like Roy.
You said that you don't want Roy "this year atleast." I was just wondering if he's still rehabbing, he obviously won't be the same. I'd rather have 20 minutes of Brandon Roy than 35 of OJ Mayo though, all things being equal.
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Boston is definitely a contender next year.
Aside: I had Indiana and Philly as being top 4 in the East before the season started  . So I'm gonna assume Indy will be the 2nd or 3rd best team in the East next year, epecially if they somehow sign Steve Nash. Boston is currently the clear #2/#3 at the moment.
Knicks are irrelevant.
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On July 01 2012 06:32 slyboogie wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2012 05:58 Holcan wrote:On July 01 2012 05:55 slyboogie wrote:
Is he not healthy? Relatively, I mean, since...you know. If you are expecting Roy to be who he was, he will never be. He will best be suited coming off the bench for light minutes to give an offensive punch. The bulls are looking for a player who can carry their entire offensive load next year. OJ Mayo would be a much better investment, or wait until Rose is back 100% then make a move for someone like Roy. You said that you don't want Roy "this year atleast." I was just wondering if he's still rehabbing, he obviously won't be the same. I'd rather have 20 minutes of Brandon Roy than 35 of OJ Mayo though, all things being equal.
A team plagued with injury problems, Rose, Rip, Luol, Noah, is going to put all their offense onto a player without any cartilage in his knees? They need an offensive player, bad. Their main problem this off season was lack of production, I don't think taking a risk on a player who may not produce for any length of time is a steady investment.
I'm not saying they should take OJ Mayo, I was only saying a player like Mayo would benefit them more, his ability to be a ball handling shooter with moderate size, is something that Bulls need. If Rose was 100% healthy I wouldn't say going after Roy was a bad move.
I hope im wrong for the sake of Roy, but I mean, the guy has no knees anymore, I wouldn't put the entire offensive load on his back. Somewhere like the Wolves where he can compliment players like Love and Rubio, two offensive powerhouses, would be a much safer bet on getting him to produce.
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goran dragic unrestricted hmmmmmmmm
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@Holcan I think we're talking about two different things. I just thought you knew something about Roy's knees.
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United States4471 Posts
KG is definitely worth that amount of money to the Celtics, but I would have thought he would take less money since he's made more than enough money in his career and he could help his team a lot by taking less.
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