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Ah, finally got the secret ship after like 50 attempts. Had to cheat by looking into the dat file and see which events occur in which sectors. So that I can find an optimal path, or give up if the map looks unfavourable. Some advice if you don't mind being spoiled:
+ Show Spoiler +First, you gotta get the Damaged Stasis Pod, which is in Rebel, Pirate, Engi and Rock controlled sectors. It will show up as a distress beacon, and Long Range Scanners will not detect a ship there.
Then, you need to bump into the Zoltan research facility, which only occurs in Zoltan and Engi worlds. If you have Scanners, this node shows up as nothing. And yes, if you are in an Engi sector, you can get both step 1 and 2 done if you are lucky.
Finally, you need go to the rock HOMEWORLD, then find a random unmarked node (which scanners will show nothing) and select blue option.
After this, you are in the crystal world, and you actually have a handy quest marker (about time lol). Go to that, and you unlock the Crystal ship!
Been playing with the crystal ship layout B. Holy crap it's fun. No starting weapons. 4 men teleporter. 3 crystal crew. Enouhg said.
Teleport into their weapons room, then lock it down so they can't do anything. Move to the next room, more lockdown micro, etc. Asteroid and AI ships are a pain though, until you get weapons and more crew.
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On September 29 2012 19:45 BurningSera wrote:
You dont need cloak to beat the final boss (i never get that show up in shop zzzzzzz), you need some nice upgrades of engine to dodge missile and enough crew member to repair. Some hull repair and anti-personal drones would be very nice too.
The best combination I had was using 1 missle (one of the good ones), one bomb (the small one) and a 2 mantis hit squad to kill everyone on the main deck until there was no one left to repair shields. Then busted it up, activated a single laser drone and waited it out with everyone back at home repairing. If you kill everyone in the first encounter, they won't be back by the second and third one.
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Id suggest letting the guy manning the second weapon from the left alive, its just a triple laser, so if you have shields 3, it does not do anything, and it prevents the ship from going AI mode and starting to autorepair everything.
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I just beat the boss on normal fairly easily with Kestrel A.
My sectors 1-7 were pretty hard though. I lost maybe 4 crew members, including one of the starting 3 in sector 1.
I had to spend like 400 or 500 scraps on repairs and didn't have great weapons for a long time.
Then at like sector 4 or so, I randomly looted a pretty sweet halberd beam, which allowed me to kill enemy ships fairly effectively in combo with my starting burst 2.
Some time later I bought a burst 1 for later (didnt have enough money to get enough weapons/power at the time), and got a hull laser 2 in sector 7, so then I knew I had enough (8 lasers per volley and a small bomb which I got at the end of sector 7 as well).
I was pretty lucky in sector 7 i think, and from there on, the rest was pretty easy, and I didnt even have a teleporter for the boss' missile room. 55% dodge+cloak ftw.
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On September 29 2012 00:51 ShloobeR wrote:
Can anybody explain to me what I'm supposed to do against the second incarnation of the boss??? (with the drones)
4 straight times that thing has just buttraped me mercilessly. I beat the first incarnation without taking a single hit and yet this one just kills me in a second.
I use double DEFII drones and yet i still end up with like 2 assault drones and 8 breaches in my deck simultaneously
and then there's like a power surge and four thousand attack droids are on me and every single system is failing and I go from 100% oxygen to -50% in 20 seconds because of the aforementioned breaches.
I try to fight the assault drones with my (maxed out) mantis dudes but HURR there's no air so I can't do anything
I just don't get what tactic you're supposed to use with the boss.
Even when I take out the drone control with my missiles I still get those random 5 or so drones attacking me.
Need teleporter to take down the triple rockets, then you need like 6 shots and shoot through the shields and damage the drone control, do the same to the shields and then just kill him. You should have level 4 shields at that point and your relatively fine against the drone surge
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On September 30 2012 12:16 Scaramanga wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2012 00:51 ShloobeR wrote:
Can anybody explain to me what I'm supposed to do against the second incarnation of the boss??? (with the drones)
4 straight times that thing has just buttraped me mercilessly. I beat the first incarnation without taking a single hit and yet this one just kills me in a second.
I use double DEFII drones and yet i still end up with like 2 assault drones and 8 breaches in my deck simultaneously
and then there's like a power surge and four thousand attack droids are on me and every single system is failing and I go from 100% oxygen to -50% in 20 seconds because of the aforementioned breaches.
I try to fight the assault drones with my (maxed out) mantis dudes but HURR there's no air so I can't do anything
I just don't get what tactic you're supposed to use with the boss.
Even when I take out the drone control with my missiles I still get those random 5 or so drones attacking me. Need teleporter to take down the triple rockets, then you need like 6 shots and shoot through the shields and damage the drone control, do the same to the shields and then just kill him. You should have level 4 shields at that point and your relatively fine against the drone surge
Basicly this, also double DEFII drone eats 8 of your energy, and its not exactly worth it. Cloaking device, better shields and taking triple misiles out is the key. You can't fail with that.
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Just lure the boarding drone around, and repair the mess it makes (from damaging hopefully non-critical subsytems like door control, O2, sensors, etc.) Fighting the drone has no purpose (unless it came in on a critical system), since you kill it, and end up with a new hull breach somewhere else from the next boarding drone.
Really like the slug ship, since you kill the enemy crew and get the bonus from the very start of the game, and vs the boss you can work on killing the crew (except the dude in the laser) in stage 1, making the next 2 stages so much easier since you can just board/disable the shields. Won on easy with every square of the flagship on fire despite dismissing what must have been 8 crewmembers.... seriously everyone wanted to fly with me for once.
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Finally beat it on normal for the first time using the red-tail. I did the mistake of killing the boarding drone in phase 2 several times so I almost ran completely out O2 with all the hull breaches. I barely avoided losing any crewmembers and after that phase 3 was a breeze.
This was my setup at the end:+ Show Spoiler +
I got a lot of weapons throughout the game, so at one point I had the mk III burst and 2 pikebeams for some crazy burstdamage. I swapped out one beam for the hull laser at the last stand so I could get through level 4 shields more cosistently. Augments on the other hand was scarce and the only one I got was Ion reflection, too bad because I would have really liked to see what that double beam/mk III burst setup could have done with a pre-igniter.
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Won on normal yesterday with stealth ship.
I didnt have stealth weapons and only 3 shields. However I had teleporter (awesome), a small bomb, the starting dual laser and a glaive beam. I took zero hull dmg in phase 1 and 2. For some reason phase 3 was the hard part of the fight, prolly cause I took out the missile room last.
I´ve learned that timing your shots is extremly important, especially your beam weapons.
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Cloaking and 40% evasion protects you from rockets and the power surges. You can easily take a couple rocket hits so prioritize the cloak for the power surges.
Teleporter is not the ideal solution and defense drones are almost useless against the boss. You would be better off spending that energy elsewhere.
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Tried the boss again
55% evade, all 3 missiles hit me when cloak was down
so at least i unlocked a new achievement hooray!
seriously this end boss, i feel like im doing the right things it just completely buttrapes me every time i try him.
GRNGRNGRN how the shit do i beat this 2nd incarnation, whoever suggested i cloak during the power surges... HAVE YOU EVEN TRIED THAT? the moment you come out of cloak there's a second power surge, and you just waste your time 
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On October 01 2012 00:59 ShloobeR wrote:Tried the boss again 55% evade, all 3 missiles hit me when cloak was down so at least i unlocked a new achievement hooray! seriously this end boss, i feel like im doing the right things it just completely buttrapes me every time i try him. GRNGRNGRN how the shit do i beat this 2nd incarnation, whoever suggested i cloak during the power surges... HAVE YOU EVEN TRIED THAT? the moment you come out of cloak there's a second power surge, and you just waste your time
I didn't get a second power surge, maybe it was the actual surge that hit you?
I waited with my cloak until the projectiles actually launched, i.e. not when the message "Power surge detected" comes but 4-5 seconds later. All power surges completely missed.
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All the drones and missiles came while i was cloaked.
but then the moment i dropped out of cloak i got that power surge warning again and HURR have some more drones
next time i'll take a screenshot of what I have
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On October 01 2012 00:59 ShloobeR wrote:Tried the boss again 55% evade, all 3 missiles hit me when cloak was down so at least i unlocked a new achievement hooray! seriously this end boss, i feel like im doing the right things it just completely buttrapes me every time i try him. GRNGRNGRN how the shit do i beat this 2nd incarnation, whoever suggested i cloak during the power surges... HAVE YOU EVEN TRIED THAT? the moment you come out of cloak there's a second power surge, and you just waste your time
When it says 'Power Surge detected' there is a delay before the actual thing. Just wait until all the drones show up, then hit cloak. Never had two power surges in a row.
edit: didnt see your other post. Sounds weird. Maybe its just random :S
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On October 01 2012 00:59 ShloobeR wrote:Tried the boss again 55% evade, all 3 missiles hit me when cloak was down so at least i unlocked a new achievement hooray! seriously this end boss, i feel like im doing the right things it just completely buttrapes me every time i try him. GRNGRNGRN how the shit do i beat this 2nd incarnation, whoever suggested i cloak during the power surges... HAVE YOU EVEN TRIED THAT? the moment you come out of cloak there's a second power surge, and you just waste your time
Cloaking during power surges works perfectly. First, as mentioned, cloak when the drones start shooting. Second, do NOT use level 3 cloak. The recharge takes too long, which means the second power surge will hit.
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On October 01 2012 03:48 Spazer wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2012 00:59 ShloobeR wrote:Tried the boss again 55% evade, all 3 missiles hit me when cloak was down so at least i unlocked a new achievement hooray! seriously this end boss, i feel like im doing the right things it just completely buttrapes me every time i try him. GRNGRNGRN how the shit do i beat this 2nd incarnation, whoever suggested i cloak during the power surges... HAVE YOU EVEN TRIED THAT? the moment you come out of cloak there's a second power surge, and you just waste your time Cloaking during power surges works perfectly. First, as mentioned, cloak when the drones start shooting. Second, do NOT use level 3 cloak. The recharge takes too long, which means the second power surge will hit.
In fact, just use level 1 cloak. Don't even bother upgrading it. It's not the length (because even level 1 is long enough, just click it when the drones show up) but the cooldown that's important.
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cloaking does not work if engines or helm is down or helm is unmanned. You need a pilot and helm and engines at at least 1 hp to have your evade actually work. So as soon as you pull of the pilot or any of these systems goes red, cloak is pointless (at least against power surge attacks, normal weapons stop charging while you are cloaked and only projectiles on route already will still hit you)
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On October 02 2012 00:17 MisterD wrote:
cloaking does not work if engines or helm is down or helm is unmanned. You need a pilot and helm and engines at at least 1 hp to have your evade actually work. So as soon as you pull of the pilot or any of these systems goes red, cloak is pointless (at least against power surge attacks, normal weapons stop charging while you are cloaked and only projectiles on route already will still hit you)
Im pretty sure that even projectiles that have already been fired can still be dodged with cloaking.
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On October 02 2012 00:27 PassiveAce wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2012 00:17 MisterD wrote:
cloaking does not work if engines or helm is down or helm is unmanned. You need a pilot and helm and engines at at least 1 hp to have your evade actually work. So as soon as you pull of the pilot or any of these systems goes red, cloak is pointless (at least against power surge attacks, normal weapons stop charging while you are cloaked and only projectiles on route already will still hit you) Im pretty sure that even projectiles that have already been fired can still be dodged with cloaking.
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This guy is right, in fact I always wait the last second to cloack and it works every single time.
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On October 01 2012 20:04 crc wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2012 03:48 Spazer wrote:On October 01 2012 00:59 ShloobeR wrote:Tried the boss again 55% evade, all 3 missiles hit me when cloak was down so at least i unlocked a new achievement hooray! seriously this end boss, i feel like im doing the right things it just completely buttrapes me every time i try him. GRNGRNGRN how the shit do i beat this 2nd incarnation, whoever suggested i cloak during the power surges... HAVE YOU EVEN TRIED THAT? the moment you come out of cloak there's a second power surge, and you just waste your time Cloaking during power surges works perfectly. First, as mentioned, cloak when the drones start shooting. Second, do NOT use level 3 cloak. The recharge takes too long, which means the second power surge will hit. In fact, just use level 1 cloak. Don't even bother upgrading it. It's not the length (because even level 1 is long enough, just click it when the drones show up) but the cooldown that's important.
Level 2 is sufficient to dodge the entirety of the phase 2 power surge. It's not strictly necessary since your shields will probably be able to soak up the remaining damage after decloaking, but if you have spare scrap, you might as well use it. For phase 3, depowering cloak to level 1 is optimal to reduce the recharge time.
On October 02 2012 00:27 PassiveAce wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2012 00:17 MisterD wrote:
cloaking does not work if engines or helm is down or helm is unmanned. You need a pilot and helm and engines at at least 1 hp to have your evade actually work. So as soon as you pull of the pilot or any of these systems goes red, cloak is pointless (at least against power surge attacks, normal weapons stop charging while you are cloaked and only projectiles on route already will still hit you) Im pretty sure that even projectiles that have already been fired can still be dodged with cloaking.
This is correct. As long as you have 40% evade, the extra 60% from cloak means you will dodge any incoming salvo.
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