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Pwere
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1557 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-18 16:42:18
April 18 2014 16:40 GMT
#521
Assuming you can jump away, you still only get one jump away if the ship gets to your base first (which is usually the case if you farmed the stage a bit for extra scraps). DD1 simply avoids the issue entirely, and then shoots down boarders in phase two. I like jumping away to deal with boarders in phase 3 too, so you gotta make sure that you beat phase 2 in your base. This way you get a fight in a rebel territory and you can jump back to base to safely kill boarders.

On another note, it seems like many of the B Layouts are so weak you can only play them on easy (if you don't like restarting over and over in the first few sectors). Stealth Ship B basically requires you to get lucky for the first two sectors until you buy and upgrade shields, then find a store and trade your Glaive beam for two decent guns in sector 3 to deal with ships with three shields in sector 4. Meanwhile, you keep losing Hull every fight, and any enemy with attack drones destroys you. Slug B and Mantis B are in a similar boat, although Mantis B becomes OP if you do get that lucky.
Leporello
Profile Joined January 2011
United States2845 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-18 17:34:12
April 18 2014 17:28 GMT
#522
Mantis B is one of the strongest ships in the game. It starts OP in a way that let's it accrue lots of scrap. No other ship starts with a double shield, or with a defense drone. Mantis B has both. No ship can hurt you for the first few sectors, you just board ships and collect the scrap bonuses at your leisure, without likely needing any repairs, unless you hit an asteroid/automated ship combo or something. The boarding drone can kill most automated ships until you get your first weapon.

The Rockship B isn't too bad, with the piercing heavy laser. The Lanius B is arguably stronger than the Lanius A, having a unique weapon and a teleporter.

Otherwise I agree that B layouts are generally weaker. I've been having a horrible time with Engi B, the ship is a pile of vendor trash and one crew member.
Big water
Nazza
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Australia1654 Posts
April 18 2014 17:54 GMT
#523
On April 16 2014 21:20 jampidampi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2014 20:16 Animzor wrote:
Haven't even beat easy yet... At a certain point I just hit a wall. I don't understand how I'm supposed to get through level 3 shields and drones and all that shit. It's not like I get tons of weapons leading up to that point either.

There are four main ways to get trough shields: a lot of lasers, chaining ion damage, missiles/bombs and boarding. The easiest is to fire a bomb or a missile to their shield system. Once it's damaged they lose shield levels and it should be easier. Repeatedly firing enough ion weapons at the shield will stack the ion damage, eventually breaching them. However you need good ion weapons for it (a Ion Balst II, a Chain Ion, or two of Heavy Ion, Ion Blast, Ion Stunner, Ion Charger). The many lasers aproach requires not only having many lasers, but also firing them at the same time. Their will block a number of lasers equal to their level, but not any more. So instead of firing your Burst I and Hull Laser II whenever they are avaible letting their shields recharge between the volleys, you should fire one big volley of lasers. Boarding is completely different and I won't cover it here.

Or perhaps your problem is not getting enough weapons? If that is the case I would recommend visiting sectors with more stores. Engi and civilian sectors have 2-3 stores, zoltan and rock sectors have 2 stores, others have 1-2 (not sure about the new abandoned sector). The green sectors are also more likely to give you free items.

As for more general advice: visit as many beacons as possible in every sector. There's no need to rush through the sectors, take your time and farm as much scrap as possible. This includes fighting all possible battles, since winning gives you better rewards than not fighting. If you save someone from a pirate/mantis/rebel, they may give additional rewards, so you should almost always fight whenever you notice that you're fighting for someone else.


Depending on your playstyle, you could also hack the shields, or if they have a lot of evasion, hack their piloting and then fire missiles at their shields.

And also flak cannons are pretty imba as well.
No one ever remembers second place, eh? eh? GIVE ME COMMAND
Pwere
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1557 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-18 21:35:23
April 18 2014 20:44 GMT
#524
On April 19 2014 02:28 Leporello wrote:
Mantis B is one of the strongest ships in the game. It starts OP in a way that let's it accrue lots of scrap. No other ship starts with a double shield, or with a defense drone. Mantis B has both. No ship can hurt you for the first few sectors, you just board ships and collect the scrap bonuses at your leisure, without likely needing any repairs, unless you hit an asteroid/automated ship combo or something. The boarding drone can kill most automated ships until you get your first weapon.

The Rockship B isn't too bad, with the piercing heavy laser. The Lanius B is arguably stronger than the Lanius A, having a unique weapon and a teleporter.

Otherwise I agree that B layouts are generally weaker. I've been having a horrible time with Engi B, the ship is a pile of vendor trash and one crew member.
Add Zoltan Shields and Clone/MedBay to the list for Mantis B, and defense/anti-ship drones kill your boarders. It does get very strong, but it's hardly reliable.

Engi B was easy enough. Finding a 2nd ion early makes the whole run a breeze. You can suffocate any crew easily with heavy ion + ion blast, which tends to let you find prisoners.

The Slug, Stealth, Mantis C (and the stupid crystal) are the only ships I don't have yet, and I don't see myself getting them on normal anytime soon.
Xafnia
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada874 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-18 23:42:08
April 18 2014 23:40 GMT
#525
On April 19 2014 05:44 Pwere wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2014 02:28 Leporello wrote:
Mantis B is one of the strongest ships in the game. It starts OP in a way that let's it accrue lots of scrap. No other ship starts with a double shield, or with a defense drone. Mantis B has both. No ship can hurt you for the first few sectors, you just board ships and collect the scrap bonuses at your leisure, without likely needing any repairs, unless you hit an asteroid/automated ship combo or something. The boarding drone can kill most automated ships until you get your first weapon.

The Rockship B isn't too bad, with the piercing heavy laser. The Lanius B is arguably stronger than the Lanius A, having a unique weapon and a teleporter.

Otherwise I agree that B layouts are generally weaker. I've been having a horrible time with Engi B, the ship is a pile of vendor trash and one crew member.
Add Zoltan Shields and Clone/MedBay to the list for Mantis B, and defense/anti-ship drones kill your boarders. It does get very strong, but it's hardly reliable.

Engi B was easy enough. Finding a 2nd ion early makes the whole run a breeze. You can suffocate any crew easily with heavy ion + ion blast, which tends to let you find prisoners.

The Slug, Stealth, Mantis C (and the stupid crystal) are the only ships I don't have yet, and I don't see myself getting them on normal anytime soon.


Clonebays were a huge buff to boarding, especially if you have 4boarders on mantis B.

You can just port into the bay, kill everyone in it and destroy the clonebay before they respawn. Medbays ships are significantly harder to board.
Pwere
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1557 Posts
April 18 2014 23:56 GMT
#526
At the point where you have 4 boarders (and, hopefully, guns), the game is basically won. But good luck getting to that point more than ~20% of your games. I guess it doesn't really matter since most of your losses will happen in a few minutes, but there's something nice about getting a high win % in a mediocre ship, which is the exact opposite of the Mantis B =)
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
April 23 2014 06:05 GMT
#527
I just got finally into FTL and it's amazing! It even takes me away from playing too much Hearthstone, because I can't resist playing too much FTL right now. This game turned out to be a lot more than I expected. So addictive!
If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]
LastWish
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
2015 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-23 10:39:11
April 23 2014 10:34 GMT
#528
On April 19 2014 05:44 Pwere wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2014 02:28 Leporello wrote:
Mantis B is one of the strongest ships in the game. It starts OP in a way that let's it accrue lots of scrap. No other ship starts with a double shield, or with a defense drone. Mantis B has both. No ship can hurt you for the first few sectors, you just board ships and collect the scrap bonuses at your leisure, without likely needing any repairs, unless you hit an asteroid/automated ship combo or something. The boarding drone can kill most automated ships until you get your first weapon.

The Rockship B isn't too bad, with the piercing heavy laser. The Lanius B is arguably stronger than the Lanius A, having a unique weapon and a teleporter.

Otherwise I agree that B layouts are generally weaker. I've been having a horrible time with Engi B, the ship is a pile of vendor trash and one crew member.
Add Zoltan Shields and Clone/MedBay to the list for Mantis B, and defense/anti-ship drones kill your boarders. It does get very strong, but it's hardly reliable.

Engi B was easy enough. Finding a 2nd ion early makes the whole run a breeze. You can suffocate any crew easily with heavy ion + ion blast, which tends to let you find prisoners.

The Slug, Stealth, Mantis C (and the stupid crystal) are the only ships I don't have yet, and I don't see myself getting them on normal anytime soon.


Engi B: You start by looking for a shop a selling all the crap that is on the ship:
= repair bots, defence bots, drone speed boost augment
And buying some decent weapory.

I actually ended with 2x burst laster mk2 and heavy laser + some ion. So the run through was very easy.
- It's all just treason - They bring me down with their lies - Don't know the reason - My life is fire and ice -
Pwere
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1557 Posts
May 08 2014 02:31 GMT
#529
A friend and I got a bit bored after finishing on Hard with half the layouts, so we made a balance mod to make the shitty guns better. It turns out the game becomes basically impossible when enemies have 3-4 decent guns every fight. There are possible workarounds, but in practice, you still need the really good guns to make sure you don't take damage basically every fight due to decent guns everywhere.

It's too bad, decent fire bombs were really fun to use, and being happy to find a Burst Laser III was a strange feeling, but decent Hull Weapons are way too dangerous when you take them to the face.
On April 23 2014 15:05 figq wrote:
I just got finally into FTL and it's amazing! It even takes me away from playing too much Hearthstone, because I can't resist playing too much FTL right now. This game turned out to be a lot more than I expected. So addictive!
You can even watch a HS stream on the side and not miss anything! Best of both worlds.
dabom88
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States3483 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-08 21:01:45
May 08 2014 21:01 GMT
#530
Just had a Legendary Run on Normal Advanced Edition with Stealth C, which, at first, I thought was one of the worst ships in the game:

Outside:
http://i.imgur.com/QYynh4n.jpg

Upgrades (Put two more into Drones than I had to, because Why the Hell Not? Just to max out everything and still have Scrap left over):
http://i.imgur.com/8jWttvL.jpg

Crew (missed out on a Crystal because I forgot how many Green sectors were after the Asteroid Distress beacon and went for the Weapon/Scrap. And Zoltan Homeworlds was right after. AND I encountered the research station in the 3rd beacon there):
http://i.imgur.com/wqBdyBa.jpg

Equipment (Not all the weapons I would have wanted, but hey, goodbye shields. Say hello to my little friend, the Halberd Beam):
http://i.imgur.com/JG5wKpO.jpg

Victory:
http://i.imgur.com/ULEGvIe.jpg

Wait WTF New Top Score?:
http://i.imgur.com/WsrmZcR.jpg

Stealth C is pretty bad... How the hell did this run turn out getting me a new top score?

Anyway, with that, I've beaten the game on Advanced Edition with every ship on Normal. Time to tackle Hard Mode with Crystal B.
You should not have to pay to watch the GSL, Proleague, or OSL at a reasonable time. That is not "fine" and it's BS to say otherwise. My sig since 2011. http://www.youtube.com/user/dabom88
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