The Bulls just re-signed Scalabrine, needless to say, the question of who will stand victorious at the end of the season has been answered.

And, wow, just wow...

slyboogie

United States3423 Posts

December 12 2011 20:27 GMT

#563

On December 13 2011 05:05 Jibba wrote:

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ESPN said it did, Yahoo said it didn't.

Wojo said that it did in his most recent article. At the very least, he was discussed.

Jibba

United States22883 Posts

December 12 2011 20:29 GMT

#564

I can't believe the NBA demanded 4 young players with huge upside plus a very high first round pick.

This is exactly why Stern should not be in a position to judge talent or trades.

XaI)CyRiC

United States4471 Posts

December 12 2011 20:39 GMT

#565

I can't help but feel like Stern is trying to send a couple of messages: (1) we are not going to let superstar players run the show when it comes to choosing where they're going to play, and (2) the league and owners are still in charge despite the debacle that occurred during the CBA negotiations.

MassHysteria

United States3678 Posts

December 12 2011 21:31 GMT

#566

(3) we want to be able to sell the Hornets for as much as possible.

MassHysteria

United States3678 Posts

December 12 2011 21:34 GMT

#567

jk ...

but ya they were saying the Clips didn't want the news of EG being offered leaked to him unless it was a sure thing. Makes sense. Specially now.

andrewlt

United States7702 Posts

December 12 2011 21:40 GMT

#568

From what I read, the Clippers didn't want to trade Gordon away. Stern's insistence that he be included killed the trade because the Clips balked at the high asking price.

slyboogie

United States3423 Posts

December 12 2011 22:03 GMT

#569

On December 13 2011 06:40 andrewlt wrote:
From what I read, the Clippers didn't want to trade Gordon away. Stern's insistence that he be included killed the trade because the Clips balked at the high asking price.

I heard it was Eric Bledsoe that was the last problem. EJ was basically the centerpiece along with the Minny pick. Ridiculous. The owners are so stupid. Just contract the league to what it should be - 22 teams and that'll solve the problem.

Jibba

United States22883 Posts

December 12 2011 22:13 GMT

#570

On December 13 2011 05:39 XaI)CyRiC wrote:
I can't help but feel like Stern is trying to send a couple of messages: (1) we are not going to let superstar players run the show when it comes to choosing where they're going to play, and (2) the league and owners are still in charge despite the debacle that occurred during the CBA negotiations.

In that case, let's see if the Hornets put up a bid for Chauncey.

XaI)CyRiC

United States4471 Posts

December 12 2011 22:14 GMT

#571

I would be very disappointed in the Clippers if they give up both Gordon and the Minnesota pick. They'd be better off bidding on him after he becomes a FA at the end of the season. No one is going to come up with a better offer than what they can come up with. The only threat I can see is if the Lakers somehow put something together that Stern approves (yeah right...) since Paul would prefer to play there.

RowdierBob

Australia13385 Posts

December 12 2011 22:34 GMT

#572

Yep, no way Clips should give up Gordon. Other guys are expendable, but trading Gordon would be silly.

Clips have more leverage here as far as I'm concerned. They're better off walking away if they have to give up the pick AND Gordon and just signing Paul in FA (they'll have more than enough cap space with Kaman's expiring).

The LAL/Hou trade wasn't good, but the Hornets are being silly now rejecting the Clips offer.

RowdierBob

Australia13385 Posts

December 12 2011 22:36 GMT

#573

Also, wouldn't be surprised if this is some massively concocted media/PR stunt by the league and the Lakers and Paul will end up there eventually anyway.

That'd be a noteworthy case study for us PR/media types!

slyboogie

United States3423 Posts

December 12 2011 23:24 GMT

#574

On December 13 2011 07:36 RowdierBob wrote:
Also, wouldn't be surprised if this is some massively concocted media/PR stunt by the league and the Lakers and Paul will end up there eventually anyway.

That'd be a noteworthy case study for us PR/media types!

I think this saga has been nothing but bad for the public perception of the NBA. Unless you buy into the no such thing as bad publicity.

RowdierBob

Australia13385 Posts

December 12 2011 23:30 GMT

#575

It's created an immense amount of hype and publicity.

It has been great for the league. Remember the lockout? I doubt anyone else does either.

Ace

United States16096 Posts

December 12 2011 23:38 GMT

#576

@Xyric: The way I understand it is that Demps is not the man in charge, he's 2nd in command. The League appointed executive has power over him. I guess we just won't agree on who has the real power in New Orleans since it seems pretty clear now that no one really knew all along.

Also it may be unfair but the other Owners are paying for the Hornets. I don't think they really influenced Stern's decision anyway since he said it came from the League Office itself, not as Owner of the Hornets. With the NO Front Office being hampered if that Woj Tweet is true, then something fishy is going on over there. Based on how quickly Demps tried to do that LA deal, and how much the NBA is trying to rape the Clippers I think both sides are being ridiculous or there is a lot of missing information being thrown around.

slyboogie

United States3423 Posts

December 12 2011 23:41 GMT

#577

On December 13 2011 08:30 RowdierBob wrote:
It's created an immense amount of hype and publicity.

It has been great for the league. Remember the lockout? I doubt anyone else does either.

By that token, the Brawl at the Palace and Tim Donaghy did the same thing. So...I mean, I could care less how the league is perceived but I don't think it's been good for the league.

Ace

United States16096 Posts

December 12 2011 23:43 GMT

#578

It's been good for the league in that interest is buzzing about Chris Paul and the 2 teams in LA.

It's been terrible for the perception of the league itself and the Owners. After the CBA negotiations and them "winning the PR war" to make the players look bad, this incident shows what the players have been saying all along about the NBA trying to yoke them around.

cLutZ

United States19574 Posts

December 12 2011 23:46 GMT

#579

How is CP3 worth EG + anything good? Gordon's contract is awesome, he's younger, has huge upside (that he has started to come into). Insanity.

andrewlt

United States7702 Posts

December 12 2011 23:47 GMT

#580

On December 13 2011 07:03 slyboogie wrote:

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It won't. The NBA is like college football in a sense. Fans watch the great teams but we "know" the great teams are "great" because they are able to pad their records against the cupcakes of the league. The paid cupcakes are just as integral a part of the league as the great teams. 22 teams won't leave enough cupcakes for top teams to feast on.