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Jibba
United States22883 Posts
On December 13 2011 04:59 slyboogie wrote: It did. I'm gonna trust multiple sourced articles. At least some variation of the trade did. ESPN said it did, Yahoo said it didn't. | ||
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VENDIZ
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And, wow, just wow... | ||
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slyboogie
United States3423 Posts
Wojo said that it did in his most recent article. At the very least, he was discussed. | ||
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Jibba
United States22883 Posts
This is exactly why Stern should not be in a position to judge talent or trades. | ||
XaI)CyRiC
United States4471 Posts
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MassHysteria
United States3678 Posts
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MassHysteria
United States3678 Posts
but ya they were saying the Clips didn't want the news of EG being offered leaked to him unless it was a sure thing. Makes sense. Specially now. | ||
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andrewlt
United States7702 Posts
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slyboogie
United States3423 Posts
On December 13 2011 06:40 andrewlt wrote: From what I read, the Clippers didn't want to trade Gordon away. Stern's insistence that he be included killed the trade because the Clips balked at the high asking price. I heard it was Eric Bledsoe that was the last problem. EJ was basically the centerpiece along with the Minny pick. Ridiculous. The owners are so stupid. Just contract the league to what it should be - 22 teams and that'll solve the problem. | ||
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Jibba
United States22883 Posts
On December 13 2011 05:39 XaI)CyRiC wrote: I can't help but feel like Stern is trying to send a couple of messages: (1) we are not going to let superstar players run the show when it comes to choosing where they're going to play, and (2) the league and owners are still in charge despite the debacle that occurred during the CBA negotiations. In that case, let's see if the Hornets put up a bid for Chauncey. | ||
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XaI)CyRiC
United States4471 Posts
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RowdierBob
Australia13294 Posts
Clips have more leverage here as far as I'm concerned. They're better off walking away if they have to give up the pick AND Gordon and just signing Paul in FA (they'll have more than enough cap space with Kaman's expiring). The LAL/Hou trade wasn't good, but the Hornets are being silly now rejecting the Clips offer. | ||
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RowdierBob
Australia13294 Posts
That'd be a noteworthy case study for us PR/media types! | ||
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slyboogie
United States3423 Posts
On December 13 2011 07:36 RowdierBob wrote: Also, wouldn't be surprised if this is some massively concocted media/PR stunt by the league and the Lakers and Paul will end up there eventually anyway. That'd be a noteworthy case study for us PR/media types! I think this saga has been nothing but bad for the public perception of the NBA. Unless you buy into the no such thing as bad publicity. | ||
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RowdierBob
Australia13294 Posts
It has been great for the league. Remember the lockout? I doubt anyone else does either. | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
Also it may be unfair but the other Owners are paying for the Hornets. I don't think they really influenced Stern's decision anyway since he said it came from the League Office itself, not as Owner of the Hornets. With the NO Front Office being hampered if that Woj Tweet is true, then something fishy is going on over there. Based on how quickly Demps tried to do that LA deal, and how much the NBA is trying to rape the Clippers I think both sides are being ridiculous or there is a lot of missing information being thrown around. | ||
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slyboogie
United States3423 Posts
On December 13 2011 08:30 RowdierBob wrote: It's created an immense amount of hype and publicity. It has been great for the league. Remember the lockout? I doubt anyone else does either. By that token, the Brawl at the Palace and Tim Donaghy did the same thing. So...I mean, I could care less how the league is perceived but I don't think it's been good for the league. | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
It's been terrible for the perception of the league itself and the Owners. After the CBA negotiations and them "winning the PR war" to make the players look bad, this incident shows what the players have been saying all along about the NBA trying to yoke them around. | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
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andrewlt
United States7702 Posts
On December 13 2011 07:03 slyboogie wrote: I heard it was Eric Bledsoe that was the last problem. EJ was basically the centerpiece along with the Minny pick. Ridiculous. The owners are so stupid. Just contract the league to what it should be - 22 teams and that'll solve the problem. It won't. The NBA is like college football in a sense. Fans watch the great teams but we "know" the great teams are "great" because they are able to pad their records against the cupcakes of the league. The paid cupcakes are just as integral a part of the league as the great teams. 22 teams won't leave enough cupcakes for top teams to feast on. | ||
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