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Lemonayd
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States745 Posts
September 23 2013 22:59 GMT
#1801
Tich has no queue times right now, but looking into the future when the next expansion comes out there will definitely be queue times.

But hey if you guys want to roll on my server please feel free
Rokevo
Profile Joined September 2009
Finland1033 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-24 13:59:38
September 24 2013 13:58 GMT
#1802
Well I'm sad, 5.4 completely killed 1v2 arena. I used to be able to get 1.8k with my mage and 1.7k with my warrior.

This season I'm like 4-40 at 1k mmr and im getting ppl with full gear and playing real comps

Edit: and not a single 1v1 or game where opponents don't join
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18856 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-24 15:51:56
September 24 2013 15:50 GMT
#1803
On September 24 2013 07:59 Lemonayd wrote:
Tich has no queue times right now, but looking into the future when the next expansion comes out there will definitely be queue times.

But hey if you guys want to roll on my server please feel free

I think ima move my lock over today, do some RHS with me, and Timeless Isle!
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
SigmaoctanusIV
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States3313 Posts
September 29 2013 15:14 GMT
#1804
I have been playing again and got my two mains to 515 ilevel but am not in any guilds just ones I have made with family. Anyone on Gilneas? I did make a mage on Tich but Leveling is slow going haha. Shoot me a pm if you want to play together.
I am Godzilla You are Japan
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
September 29 2013 16:14 GMT
#1805
Look up oQueue addon if you are stranded in dead places. I hear good things about it.
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
waferjuice
Profile Joined April 2011
38 Posts
September 29 2013 17:51 GMT
#1806
So lets say after years of not going into WoW but still reading WoW news, i would like to ask, what are the many different types of end game content summarized in their most basic form?

End Game Content
1. Dailies in pandaria which there are TONS of..
2. BG
3. Raids.
4. LFR Raids for those who cant get into any good guild.
5. Heroics.
6. Heroic Raids- Is VC in here? im not too sure.
7. Flexi Raids <-- Qn, what are they?
8. Arenas
9. Challenge mode? What is challenge mode?
10. Trials or proving grounds or osmething? Single Player WoW?
11. Anymore? These are all i can think of at the moment.
12. Farming world boss Sha.
13. ?? anymore?

Can someone help me out with this. I would like to get back into WoW but i do not want to get information overload especially once i hit the pandaria land.
Warri
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany3208 Posts
September 29 2013 18:17 GMT
#1807
On September 30 2013 02:51 waferjuice wrote:
So lets say after years of not going into WoW but still reading WoW news, i would like to ask, what are the many different types of end game content summarized in their most basic form?

End Game Content
1. Dailies in pandaria which there are TONS of..
2. BG
3. Raids.
4. LFR Raids for those who cant get into any good guild.
5. Heroics.
6. Heroic Raids- Is VC in here? im not too sure.
7. Flexi Raids <-- Qn, what are they?
8. Arenas
9. Challenge mode? What is challenge mode?
10. Trials or proving grounds or osmething? Single Player WoW?
11. Anymore? These are all i can think of at the moment.
12. Farming world boss Sha.
13. ?? anymore?

Can someone help me out with this. I would like to get back into WoW but i do not want to get information overload especially once i hit the pandaria land.


between 2 and 3 there should also be ratedBG, which is like BG and arena combined. You have to have a full group and you get rated.
6. what do you mean by VC?
7. Flex raids allows you to raid with anyone and between 10 and 25 people. the difficulty is tied to how many people you have in the group.
9. heroics are super easy these days. so they implemented Challange modes, which are basically the 5man dungeons that you play for timed runs. They are difficult because your gear gets scaled down to the same level, no matter how good it is. Also every boss is harder, more hp etc etc. You get absolutely no loot though. But there are leaderboards online.
10. Yeah, basically you get waves of mobs and you play either as healer tank or dd and it gets tricky at later waves. On top of that there is also the BrawlGar arena, where you solo pve against encounters with abilities etc.Example, and my favortie one:

11. pokemon! err, pet battles yeah. gotta catch em all.
Satire
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada295 Posts
September 30 2013 05:20 GMT
#1808
On September 24 2013 22:58 Rokevo wrote:
Well I'm sad, 5.4 completely killed 1v2 arena. I used to be able to get 1.8k with my mage and 1.7k with my warrior.

This season I'm like 4-40 at 1k mmr and im getting ppl with full gear and playing real comps

Edit: and not a single 1v1 or game where opponents don't join


Yeah it's pretty great. Against any double hybrid team I almost go out of mana trying to keep myself and my partner up sometimes. (I'm a healer). Also, I love comps like shadow priest/druid, where the goal is to bring us to 30-40% and then kite us for 15 minutes afterwards. 2v2 is broken entirely - especially past 2k+ ratings. On the plus side, I think 3v3 is much more balanced...
Satire is a lesson, parody is a game.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
September 30 2013 07:52 GMT
#1809
On September 30 2013 02:51 waferjuice wrote:
So lets say after years of not going into WoW but still reading WoW news, i would like to ask, what are the many different types of end game content summarized in their most basic form?

End Game Content
1. Dailies in pandaria which there are TONS of..
2. BG
3. Raids.
4. LFR Raids for those who cant get into any good guild.
5. Heroics.
6. Heroic Raids- Is VC in here? im not too sure.
7. Flexi Raids <-- Qn, what are they?
8. Arenas
9. Challenge mode? What is challenge mode?
10. Trials or proving grounds or osmething? Single Player WoW?
11. Anymore? These are all i can think of at the moment.
12. Farming world boss Sha.
13. ?? anymore?

Can someone help me out with this. I would like to get back into WoW but i do not want to get information overload especially once i hit the pandaria land.


Pretty much all the things you wrote are what you can do. It is more easier to play with less hours put into the game however, if you still want to be the best in PvE side of the game you have to put in the hours. PvP however is so easy to get the gear now it is pretty much social xD

Timeless isle is the place where you want to go when you hit level 90, there is quests to do a little chain of them, and then dailies (2 everyday). World bosses on the island and elites. It makes farming decent gear really easy and much better than dailies.

Flex raid is a new system they bought out which is harder than LFR level of PvE content but is still slightly easier than Normal mode. It is based for social PvErs who don't have the schedule to commit to a raid guild but want to raid. You can get people from 10 to 25 (anywhere in between) and go and kill the bosses in a more challenging adventure than silly LFR. It's good for those who have raided in the past but cannot anymore.

Proving Grounds is PvE vs everything, you get wave and waves of mobs and have to kill them. Then you have one where you have to survive long as possible etc.
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waferjuice
Profile Joined April 2011
38 Posts
September 30 2013 08:02 GMT
#1810
Summary.............

End Game Content
1. Dailies in pandaria which there are TONS of..
2. BG
3. Raids.
4. LFR Raids for those who cant get into any good guild.
5. Heroics.
6. Heroic Raids- Is VC (i mean dead mines) in here? im not too sure.
7. Flexi Raids <-- "Flex raids allows you to raid with anyone and between 10 and 25 people. the difficulty is tied to how many people you have in the group."
8. Arenas
9. Challenge mode? What is challenge mode?--" Challange modes, which are basically the 5man dungeons that you play for timed runs. They are difficult because your gear gets scaled down to the same level, no matter how good it is. Also every boss is harder, more hp etc etc. You get absolutely no loot though. But there are leaderboards online."
10. Trials or proving grounds or something? Single Player WoW?-- "Proving Grounds is PvE vs everything, you get wave and waves of mobs and have to kill them. Then you have one where you have to survive long as possible etc."
11. Rated Bg
12. Farming world boss Sha.
13. Pokemon
14. Timeless Isle- End Game Quest Area --"is the place where you want to go when you hit level 90, there is quests to do a little chain of them, and then dailies (2 everyday). World bosses on the island and elites. It makes farming decent gear really easy and much better than dailies. "


Wow, world of warcraft has really expanded on its BG, ARENA, RAID, HEROICS & DAILIES end game content eh? Pandaria did THAT much? daamn... So the last question is.. should i get back into it? I'v played from midway-BC to end of cataclysm when it sucked the most.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
September 30 2013 08:17 GMT
#1811
Panda land is by far a better expansion than Cataclysm so maybe it would be worth you playing it, however it is the end of the expansion at the moment, so things are way different than they were. New expansion will be announced at blizzcon and the beta testing will probably start during the holiday season. So whether you want to wait until closer until the next expansion to start i dont know, but there wont be much PVE content to be done at a decent level and PvP is social and easy to do, so maybe that is the way to go.
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
nyxnyxnyx
Profile Joined April 2010
Indonesia2978 Posts
September 30 2013 08:53 GMT
#1812
Tich dudes, how do I find you guys? And also, A or H?
cool beans
Thorakh
Profile Joined April 2011
Netherlands1788 Posts
September 30 2013 08:54 GMT
#1813
On September 24 2013 22:58 Rokevo wrote:
Well I'm sad, 5.4 completely killed 1v2 arena. I used to be able to get 1.8k with my mage and 1.7k with my warrior.

This season I'm like 4-40 at 1k mmr and im getting ppl with full gear and playing real comps

Edit: and not a single 1v1 or game where opponents don't join
2v2 isn't fun right now. Every team has a combination of a priest, paladin, warrior and death knight. It's so boring fighting the same shit all day long. And then you have that shit that gives the team a free win after 15 minutes if they got the opposing team low enough. You could completely outplay the other team, but get 1 hp lower than them and lose the match there.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-01 07:45:50
October 01 2013 07:45 GMT
#1814
And so ends the PvE race ends in 5.4....


[image loading]


Again it is Sco's Method that win
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Warri
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany3208 Posts
October 01 2013 10:28 GMT
#1815
This tier was way too easy they had 11/14 after the first id. And the next content is probably half a year away, damn its gonna be boring.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
October 01 2013 10:34 GMT
#1816
Yeah did seem rather quick, took just over 3 resets if you are going on US servers.
Was a tough raid too, some of the bosses looked a challenge, but i guess for the best of the best it wasn't so hard
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16121 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-01 11:11:16
October 01 2013 11:04 GMT
#1817
On October 01 2013 19:28 Warri wrote:
This tier was way too easy they had 11/14 after the first id. And the next content is probably half a year away, damn its gonna be boring.


Let's be fair about this, 5.4 had an incredibly long PTR testing cycle where Method and every other top guild was working on the encounters both on Normal and Heroic.

To simply say that they came out and steamrolled the content blind is totally false when you take into consideration their months of progress on the PTR.

The fact that Garrosh stood tall for as long as he did on Heroic is a pretty good testament to how hard this tier actually is once you look at it that way.

My guild is 6/14 on Normal right now (we aren't cutting edge but we've managed to clear all of the raid tiers in each of the previous expansions while they were relevant without nerfs) and I have to say that so far SoO is a blast with a lot of nice difficulty added in.

Some fights like Iron Juggernaut seem simple and rather easy, others like Dark Shaman are crazy and much more difficult.

I'm having a ton of fun with the content so far.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
October 01 2013 11:12 GMT
#1818
Yeah good point Vindicare, there were extensively long PTRs and the top guilds are the only ones with the big progression.

&#91;image loading&#93;


As you can see from the above image, the % of guilds that have done heoric mode bosses ARE VERY small. So i guess your point is a valid one. 3 raid lock outs after SoO has been released only 12% of the guilds have killed Garrosh. Under 50% of the guilds in the game have yet to get passed the Dark Shaman fight which is 7/14 (halfway). So the regular guilds who dont spam PTR for tips and whipes before they play are getting tested a lot. And the 12% that killed Garrosh on normal, 4% of those guilds have yet to even become 1/14hc! Which again could be a test.

I wish i was PvE farming again but i struggle with time commitments which is sad as this is been good fun
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Stancel
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Singapore15360 Posts
October 01 2013 11:23 GMT
#1819
On September 30 2013 17:54 Thorakh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2013 22:58 Rokevo wrote:
Well I'm sad, 5.4 completely killed 1v2 arena. I used to be able to get 1.8k with my mage and 1.7k with my warrior.

This season I'm like 4-40 at 1k mmr and im getting ppl with full gear and playing real comps

Edit: and not a single 1v1 or game where opponents don't join
2v2 isn't fun right now. Every team has a combination of a priest, paladin, warrior and death knight. It's so boring fighting the same shit all day long. And then you have that shit that gives the team a free win after 15 minutes if they got the opposing team low enough. You could completely outplay the other team, but get 1 hp lower than them and lose the match there.


What's 2v2 like for sub rogues atm? I want to start conquest capping after getting the 4-piece set bonus and double shankers, but doing kittens for damage to plate users is kinda depressing.

Also, my personal rating is 96 if that helps!
ffxiv enjoyer
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16121 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-01 11:40:32
October 01 2013 11:26 GMT
#1820
Dark Shaman is wild dude, we spent most of today's raid (we raid twice a week) working on it.

A major portion of it is how it's tanked. The tanks need to do a really elaborate dance of taunt offs while also positioning the various abilities the bosses do so they don't overwhelm the raid.

Here's a video guide for it.



I mean sure to the BC raider that isn't playing anymore it's easy to look at how fast the content is being cleared by the top guilds compared to say Sunwell and then criticize the raids as being simple or watered down now, but I challenge anyone to look at a fight like Dark Shaman and then say that.

EDIT: I just noticed in that video that their DPS were averaging about 100k more damage per person than my guild. Just goes to show how much having full Heroic gear from the previous raid tier helps in the normal mode versions of the next, also they have what I would consider to be an optimal raid comp for that fight, 2 Elemental Shaman 1 Rogue, DK/Paladin tank combo etc.

Not every guild and mine certainly doesn't, tailors their raid comp around each encounter so for us we have to deal with the same boss with a raid comp not nearly as suited for it.
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