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Critter
Profile Joined January 2011
United States196 Posts
April 21 2012 08:29 GMT
#1601
Coming back and winning a series from being down 3-0 has been done I believe 3 times in the history of the game. So Van or Pit coming back and winning is highly unlikely (although obviously still possible). It's a HUGE task.
turamn
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States1374 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-21 16:16:11
April 21 2012 16:11 GMT
#1602
Raffi Torres suspended 25 games. About god damn time. Good job, Shanny.

http://video.nhl.com/videocenter/console?catid=60&id=173753
Shelke14
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada6655 Posts
April 21 2012 16:42 GMT
#1603
25 games.... Such a bad decision, Shanny is over reaching so fucking bad here. I would have been fine with 10-12 but even that would be pushing it. Like other NHL'ers stated, a few years ago that hit would have been applauded but now he is a villain. If he is trying to change the mindset of the NHL, he is clearly trying to send a message by punishing a non-star player.

I find it funny reading other website comments because it is such a polarized debate on if 25 was too much or the right amount. Obviously he won't be able to make all hockey fans happy when he decides something and I understand that but this call is fucking dumb.
wunsun
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada622 Posts
April 21 2012 16:46 GMT
#1604
On April 22 2012 01:42 Shelke14 wrote:
25 games.... Such a bad decision, Shanny is over reaching so fucking bad here. I would have been fine with 10-12 but even that would be pushing it. Like other NHL'ers stated, a few years ago that hit would have been applauded but now he is a villain. If he is trying to change the mindset of the NHL, he is clearly trying to send a message by punishing a non-star player.

I find it funny reading other website comments because it is such a polarized debate on if 25 was too much or the right amount. Obviously he won't be able to make all hockey fans happy when he decides something and I understand that but this call is fucking dumb.


To me, its not the actual 25 games that bothers me. Its the fact that some of his decisions (Torres) seem to be overly harsh, and others (Webber) to be not harsh enough. Yes, there's this star thing. But still, there is a lack of consistency to his decision. Furthermore, I feel right now Torres is made an example of to rein in this year's playoffs.
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-21 16:53:02
April 21 2012 16:48 GMT
#1605
Shrug.

-_-

Instead of posting my thoughts about the suspensions I'll post something else.

IN OTHER NEWS, the Leafs have hired Barbara Underhill as a skating consultant. Remember her? She helped teach Brian Boyle how to skate.

Cue the media circus.

On April 21 2012 16:13 Taku wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2012 09:58 BioSC wrote:
On April 20 2012 14:28 Taku wrote:
So far:

LAK 3-1 VAN
PHX 3-1 CHI
STL 3-1 SJS
NSH 3-1 DET

Wtf is going on, at this rate western conference is going to be boring as hell lol.


As "boring" as this may sound simply by looking at the scores, the West has been all but boring if you watch each game. PHX v CHI? each game to overtime, with last second goals by CHI to tie it up? STL v SJS? A story of Good goaltending and Defence vs a struggling PK and Top line, NSH v DET, very exciting series to watch, (From a Blues fan ofc, didn't want to see either of these teams first round xD) and LAK v VAN, yeah, pretty one sided so far, but perhaps a spark of hope for VAN, as the sedins are reunited and finally won a game off of quick, though I personally don't see them taking the next 3.

Past the first round, if each of the teams ahead pull through, you would have STL v LAK and PHX v NSH, two very interesting and exciting series. STL v LAK would be a defensive and goaltending battle, and while some fans may argue that low scoring games aren't as exciting, I disagree, the last game that STL played against LAK was a 1-0 win for LA in a shootout, and it was probably one of my favorite games of the season. As for PHX v NSH, not sure how that would go, it would depend on if PHX has an answer to Rinne, and lets be honest, not many teams have this season.

I'm super excited for saturday, I have tickets 10 rows off the ice for STL v SJS, Hoping to bring the boys in blue a win and their first playoff series win since 2002! LGB!

A final four of LAK, PHX, STL, NSH woooooooo so exciting. Record number of 0-1 games incoming. Do any of the teams have any semblence of rivalry that I'm missing out on?

If VAN goes down I'm rooting for Ottawa, and maybe the flyers just becase After that not much else to cheer for imo.



Heh, by that time the Sens might be out. I think they'll be lucky to get passed the Rangers (even though they're outplaying them). Lundqvist is doing what he usually does though and if the Rangers keep playing and stop holding back. I don't know. I sort of expected this one to go seven games though! ;P
Shelke14
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada6655 Posts
April 21 2012 17:01 GMT
#1606
^ please do give us your thoughts on the torres news, thats what this forum is for. Discussion of individual thoughts on the current situations in the NHL.
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
April 21 2012 17:02 GMT
#1607
Torres is a repeat offender. He's done this repeatedly for at least six seasons now. Anyone remember the hit that he put on Milan Michalek in the SJ/Edm series from 2005-2006? I sure as shit do. A 25-game ban is perfectly appropriate.
Taku
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada2036 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-21 17:04:17
April 21 2012 17:04 GMT
#1608
Consistency thy name is Shannahan.
When SC2 came for BW, I cried. Now LoL/Dota2 comes for SC2, and I laugh. \o/
turamn
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States1374 Posts
April 21 2012 17:28 GMT
#1609
I'm surprised at how many people feel the Torres suspension was excessive. The fact of the matter is that he is as much of a repeat offender as Matt Cooke was/is. The precedent had already been sent. And then, on top of coming out and saying something like, "I need to change and re-evaluate the way I play the game.", he says I have to do this shit to stay in the league.

He deserves it and I support it 100%. Now, Shanahan's consistency is a different issue all together. That dude is all over the place. There's no way for ANYONE to predict what's going to happen because he's just so off of the fucking wall. I personally believe that the NHL execs need to review the process he is using and make it more consistent and stable.
BloodNinja
Profile Joined June 2010
United States2791 Posts
April 21 2012 17:29 GMT
#1610
On April 22 2012 01:11 turamn wrote:
Raffi Torres suspended 25 games. About god damn time. Good job, Shanny.

http://video.nhl.com/videocenter/console?catid=60&id=173753


"About god damn time. Good job, Shanny." Exactly. It is about time the NHL laid out a serious suspension for a serious offense.
Durp
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada3117 Posts
April 21 2012 17:30 GMT
#1611
I'm glad he got such a stiff suspension. Repeat offenders like Torres need harsh punishments to set an example to the newer players.
<3 Shanny.

Also, amazingly well explained reasoning behind the decision.
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Sub40APM
Profile Joined August 2010
6336 Posts
April 21 2012 21:23 GMT
#1612
On April 22 2012 02:28 turamn wrote:
I'm surprised at how many people feel the Torres suspension was excessive. The fact of the matter is that he is as much of a repeat offender as Matt Cooke was/is. The precedent had already been sent. And then, on top of coming out and saying something like, "I need to change and re-evaluate the way I play the game.", he says I have to do this shit to stay in the league.

He deserves it and I support it 100%. Now, Shanahan's consistency is a different issue all together. That dude is all over the place. There's no way for ANYONE to predict what's going to happen because he's just so off of the fucking wall. I personally believe that the NHL execs need to review the process he is using and make it more consistent and stable.

Was going to post exactly the same thing. Glad to see Torres gone, hopefully he is done in this league. But no, it doesnt mean that Shanahan getting this one right excuses letting the stars of the hook. The double standards are just staggering and I guess Shanahan is waiting for Neal or Webber to actually kill a person before he stops being the butt boy of the owners and step up.

Somewhat related to this note, what do you guys think about removing the refs of the ice completely [but leaving the linesmen there to break up brawls] and putting them all up in the camera room? I am getting tired of refs missing blatant calls and some of them have been series affecting. Now 30 years ago camera technology was too backwards to do this but today, why not light up the whole rink with tiny cameras all over the place, including a couple inside the crossbar looking straight down and a couple inside the goalposts looking at each other too. This way no one can jawbone the refs into giving make up calls but there might be less need of making makeup calls anyway since instead of just relying on 4 pairs of eyes and 'gut feelings' youll have a million cameras...and 4 pairs of eyes.

Kojak21
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada1104 Posts
April 22 2012 00:20 GMT
#1613
Part of the game is when they miss calls! it makes it interesting!
¯\_(☺)_/¯
yurta
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada91 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-22 01:15:13
April 22 2012 01:10 GMT
#1614
On April 21 2012 13:43 Shelke14 wrote:

The only way Nasville doesn't make it to the stanley cup finals is if LA pulls a mircale and beats Vancouver to end the series (Which won't happen as long as Daniel plays). But if LA does somehow win, Nasville going to the finals like i called it.


I feel like this statement somehow doesn't make sense, at first the only way Nashville doesn't go to the finals is if L.A takes out Vancouver ( which I still don't see making sense, cause L.A would play the Blues and get stomped pretty badly ), but than all of sudden it takes a turn where if somehow L.A beats Vancouver than Nashville is going to the finals?????

Did you miss a word or do you not understand your own thought process?
SoleSteeler
Profile Joined April 2003
Canada5468 Posts
April 22 2012 01:51 GMT
#1615
Woo, knock those Rangers out, Sens!
Critter
Profile Joined January 2011
United States196 Posts
April 22 2012 02:00 GMT
#1616
Go Sens Go! Andy steals a game and Spezza finally gets something going with a beautiful pass from Stone in his first NHL game! Damn I love playoff hockey.
Orcasgt24
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada3238 Posts
April 22 2012 02:15 GMT
#1617
Bye bye San Jose. St. Louis punches their ticket into round 2 with a 3-1 win in game 5. I do not envy whoever draws STL in round 2. They look very frustrating to play
In Hearthstone we pray to RNGesus. When Yogg-Saron hits the field, RNGod gets to work
wunsun
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada622 Posts
April 22 2012 02:28 GMT
#1618
Yes SENS.

Damn good game. ^^
zylog
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada943 Posts
April 22 2012 04:00 GMT
#1619
I felt that the Rangers played slightly better overall tonight, but the Sens held it together with great play from Anderson.
Mordanis
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States893 Posts
April 22 2012 04:31 GMT
#1620
I have to say, when you look at previous long-term suspensions, Torres' hit was pretty tame.list of long-term suspensions.
To highlight a few:
Chris Simon with 25 game suspension for (after a play) tripping Ruutu and then stomping on his ankle
Marty McSorley got a 23 game suspension for swinging his stick at full force at a player's face.
Bertuzzi got 20 games off for a sucker punch that ended a guy's career
Best of all, Dave Brown, for a crosscheck to the face that broke a jaw, received a 15 game suspension.

I'm not going to defend Torres' hit, but Shanahan is sure going a long way to try to change the game. I feel like he would have gotten maybe a one game suspension had Hossa not been injured, and I'm not sure the hit would have to be changed very much to have left Hossa conscious. What a messy situation. Hope Hossa makes a full and speedy recovery.
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